If you're not maniacally ripping every minute of theoretical fun out of your vacation with an insane timetable that begins at 0500, you're probably rich enough that your dietician has you fasting intermittently.
I am thinking about it the other way around. Most people consider vacations as a chance to get rest, because they are working starting 5 in the morning for the rest of the year.
I honestly aggree. I arranged my shit quite well, started working late, worked till it's late. It is how I like it, I get really productive at ~15:00 till ~19:00. Now my children go to school (therefore I have to get up early) and they banned working after 18:00 at my company (thanks labour union, I get what you wanted to do, but you screwed me). My productivity dropped so much it stresses me out and I am constantly tired, because I don't sleep enough.
Same - I've basically forced my employer to de facto let me work whenever I want.
I mean, they just like the output they get and with literally no drawbacks, so it's especially shitty knowing that I've basically been fighting some ... traditions?
Its literally just full on discrimination (as classification I mean), it's just too much of a dispersed problem to gain attention & we are all brainwashed (starring late is considered lazy yet finishing early isn't).
No, we rebuild when normies are sleeping so when they wake up everything is already different, scheduled changed, work hours flexible, any reference to time before noon punishable.
ahh that brings back my memory of sneaking out lettuce from the hotel cafeteria so I can give it to the local perfume & tea shop keeper's tortoise, talking with the locals is the best
This is why you don’t pay for breakfast (if you have the option), wake up late at your time and go discover a local spot and some food to eat as breakfast/lunch item.
You know another way you're not allowed to be lazy on vacation?
If you get an AirBnB, you have to clean the place before you leave.
Hotels have cleaners who clean your room so you can leave it a mess. I shouldn't have to do chores when I'm on vacation. One of many reasons I prefer hotels.
Only reason I use an AirBNB is if it's a unique location where there are no hotels (like a cabin in the woods on a river or something) but I agree, I only book ones that don't have a ridiculous checkout policy.
I also hate that private equity has taken over towns with short term rentals making the rest of us pay more in rent.
We once used it back when it really was just individual people with extra places renting them out short-term when we stayed in New York, but that was like 2009. And then my mom insisted on paying for one when she went with me to the Mayo Clinic earlier this year, but at least it was just someone renting out the bottom half of the duplex they owned and not a corporation... but yeah, unless there's just not another good option, I'm not doing AirBnB when it's my choice.
Our vacation days generally consist of stalking the area for good food and doing tourist-y things to fill the time between meals. My partner's favorite thing to do during vacation downtime is to find more restaurants and cafes in the area for the next day, so hotel food is never a factor.
The worst breakfast I ever had was at a Courtyard Marriott that was under renovation. Since then, I made a policy to find the best local breakfast diner any place I went, even if the hotel breakfast was included.
That was how I learned Boston has no good breakfast spots.
Also the hotel only served breakfast on certain days of the week? What the fuck is that about. But they gave me a free glass of wine when I got back to the hotel one night.
Hold up- did you just say German food is better than Italian? I have never once in my life seen a German restaurant. Italian restaurants are all over the place
Edit: apologies. I misread and that you said "is when it comes to food". Sounds like I need to try me some German breakfast.
Sounds like I need to try me some German breakfast.
German breakfast is good, but it isn't the greates breakfast on earth. But Italian breakfast is terrible. It is basically coffee and some sweet pastry.
Yes, but many big hotel chains have a buffet style breakfast that does not only include typical local food. For instance in France a local breakfast would be bread, croissant or other pastries, and a coffee, but you would also find scrambled eggs, bacon, cereal, etc.
I don't know what hotels you go to but my experience has been pretty mid across most of Europe. Bog-standard continental breakfast buffets. Croissants, orange juice, cereal, toast, all of mediocre quality.
Not terrible as it is, but you can likely get infinitely better breakfast by hopping over to any cafe across the street.
Literally most places, and depends on what you like. I think anywhere in France is the tits for delicious food (try traveling outside of Paris as well).
I’ve been to Sweden a couple times, and the real food they serve in hotels or cafeterias versus the industrial processed eating product that we usually have in the US really puts us to shame.
But that goes for many aspects of the culture. The whole, you know, respect other humans thing.
I don't know where everyone is staying but I normally get a choice of single serve cereal bowls, bagels with maybe 3 types of spread, some type of juice, coffee, milk, and occasionally a selection of fruit. Everything is served with cheap plastic or cardboard not silverware, glass, cloth or ceramic.
The US doesn't have anything called an English breakfast outside of restaurants which specifically cater to that. Aside from what looks like quiche, that looks like a pretty standard continental breakfast.
I think good hotel breakfast peaks at the middle of the price curve.
I stayed at a La Quinta by Portland airport and they had pancakes, Belgian waffle machines with butter and syrup, biscuits, bacon, eggs, cereal, fruit, juice... For a $115 a night room.
I've stayed at the Four Seasons in Chicago and they had bread and juice.
It's because they don't want to give out free food (but want to make it seem like they do want to give out free food), so they will make it available only when people are less likely to go for it.
In the US several hotels will offer a "continental breakfast" included with the stay. I guess you could argue that it's not really free, considering it's factored into your stay at the hotel, but there is technically not a separate charge for it and it's considered an "amenity". I know that this is not necessarily common in other places, so I thought I would mention in case you were not aware.
I'd say you're correct except now it's more "used to offer". In Europe it's usually included and it's a good spread, in the US it was a decent spread, then cereal and processed muffins, and now it's.... A Starbucks Togo you have to pay for
It's so weird seeing almost 500 upvotes on a post like this on lemmy where, based on comments, like 90% of it's users can barely afford rent, let alone going on vacation and staying at a place that offers breakfast.
Source: I think last time I paid for a hotel myself was 2009. I have no idea how many nights I've spent on company expense since then, but it must be in the hundreds.
I do, I just don't pay for them myself. I usually show up at my destination early, or I leave late. I've racked up enough hotel bonus points to cover most of it for free.
Young-leaning and tech heavy. In my case I'm trades rather than tech, but the result is the same: company has work they need done out of town, so I end up in a hotel
There are also people outside of america. In my country i could afford to go on a week-long vacation every year in europe with basically a minimum-wage salary if that is what i want to prioritize in life.
I mean, I travel for work a lot and have to stay weeks in hotels. And weeks means weekends, so yeah I can relate.
There's a lot of people I meet around the world that travel like me and wouldn't be able to afford those same hotels for a vacation... like me lol
Oh it's just the usual people that complain that they can't afford anything but somehow they've visited 35 countries so far in their life and are planning their next trip to add one more to the list.
Well I mean, the majority of hotels don't even serve free breakfast anymore once they realized they could get away with not having it or making it a paid thing. This used to be common a while ago, when I'm sure Lemmy users used to be taken on vacations by their parents.
All the hotels i ever stay in anymore don't have a restaurant or a bar just bare bones. I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once and it had a pancake machine
Holiday Inn Express is the most miserable breakfast I've ever had in a hotel. The selection was basically lard with sugar on it, and whatever drink you chose tasted of chlorine.
I'm normally not much of a breakfast person, but work had booked me in at HIE once, and as I had a long day ahead I had to force myself to eat something. And the selection available didn't exactly make it easier.
After that I always make sure to book the hotel myself. I'm not that picky in terms of hotel, as long as the eatery is decent.
I never had tap water in the US that didn't. No wonder why bottled water is so popular there. I'm sure they have better water in more mountainous states, but TX, LA, MS and AL tastes like chlorinated swamp.
Most of my life I've lived in places where the tap water comes from natural lakes in nearby mountains, with bird poop as the only additive. I therefore notice the chlorine very easily, to the point where my coworkers claim they don't notice it at all.
In New Zealand our tap water is mostly okay to good, with the exception of Whanganui. Tap water there has lots of lime (not the fruit) in it so I tend not to drink tap water as a habit, despite living in the south island now which has nice and cold tap water pretty much everywhere. Never heard of chlorine in the tap water around here lol
It does, not really sure how to describe it other than unpleasant, maybe metallic like. It also leaves residue in boiling jugs that needs to be cleaned periodically.
Yeah, uh... Don't know how to say this, but if your water smells like chlorine, I don't recommend drinking it.
Might be ok for survival, but it's definitely not for regular consumption.
I like Drury Inns. They do have the standard "breakfast ends at 9:30" thing which sucks for late sleepers, but they also have a 5-7 pm "happy hour" with snacks and both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks provided gratis. It's a way to avoid paying for dinner if you can do it and you don't care about your dinner being snacky stuff, but if you're on vacation, let dinner be snacky stuff.
I love having breakfast early in the monring in hotels when most people are still asleep. I can take my time, read in peace, no queue for the coffee, etc...
I am the same. I wake up early regardless and my wife and daughter don't, so I can go downstairs and have breakfast and hang out down there for a while as they sleep and then get them up 20 minutes before they stop serving it.
Why would I spend the time and money on a vacation just to waste it on being lazy? I can do that at home. On vacation I'm up before sunrise, take a shower, and grab breakfast before I start my itinerary for the day.
You can also maximize your time sleeping in too. Stay out and have fun on the town, head back to the hotel at 3am. Some people are night owls, some people like mornings. Nothing wrong with either.
Personally waking up before sunrise feels awful for my body and brain function, but I get it.
We have different vacation philosophies. Mornings are nebulous unplanned times for everyone to do what they want like sleeping in, relaxing by the pool, getting brunch at a nice place, and light sight seeing. I usually don't have scheduled goals/events for the day until afternoons and evenings while on vacation. I can't enjoy being somewhere new if I'm too burnt out and exhausted to participate and experience it properly.
It's not sneaky, most would happily tell you it's a combination of that plus not wasting food for the few people who would normally meander out at the crack of noon
There are two types of hotels: those who serve early breakfasts because most of their clients are early birds, and all inclusives where most of the clients are night owls. You're just staying at the wrong type of hotel.
Maybe I'm in a fortunate position. But I have never been to a place where breakfast was as good as an average cafe.
From my experience: If Hotel A and Hotel B were pretty identical the same but for $20 more, you get all you can eat breakfast, don't bother. Just buy breakfast.
Its still weird to me how English breakfast is (that much of) a thing.
Like a couple of centuries ago for the difference in the sheer standard of living, sure, maybe at that point it was luxurious in terms of ingredients alone, ... but still?
It even isn't really a southern thing, its an attention grabber for capital. No one eats or thinks of deep fried butter save for those that go to fairs and get it waved in their face.
Blood sausage isn't just a UK thing, variations are found in pretty much every cuisine that eats meat. And it's not even like its super popular in the UK, its very often not even included in a full English breakfast.
I didn't say it wasn't. Fried butter is also delicious. I was just making a comment as to the availability of the dishes in their respective countries.
It's because the alternative is "continental breakfast" which consists of a few slices of warm ham, tiny slices of bread and a bunch of fruit that's already on the turn.
That's why I'm sticking with alpine/Austrian breakfast: Real bread (Google "Schwarzbrot"), real cereals (a mix of oats, dried fruits and nuts, with hot milk) or Sterz (a breakfast made from ground maize, couldn't find a translation) with apples and raisins. Depends on how much time I have and what I'm doing on that day (before a long hike or a long day of skiing Sterz is the best).
A middle-of-the-road priced business hotel in Brazil, and that's all I can say to that. Stayed there for a concurso público (no earthly clue how to translate that) two months ago.
The thing was at 12pm which made it rather inconvenient to get lunch before the event, so I slept in, arrived at breakfast at 9:50, there were still half a dozen people there, food was a bit old but I got what I needed.
Ah, so it's not in the US. Most hotels in the US that serve breakfast would probably start cleaning up the breakfast around 8 or 9am (9 or 10am on weekends).
what I mean to say is, I think they choose a continental breakfast because it sounds fancy and is cheap. not that they made up the word Continental for it
Almost every half-decent hotel I've stayed in on the continent has a self-service mix of both. The breads, hams and cheeses of a continental but also heated cloches of eggs, bacon, sausage, hash browns etc. Also it's served from about 7.30 to 10.30
If they sell you a shit breakfast, leave a one-star review and make a difference. Instead of rolling over and having your belly tickled by capitalism like the yanks do
Some shocking breakfasts in this thread but more shocking that some people just shrug and go "It is what it is"
The breads, hams and cheeses of a continental but also heated cloches of eggs, bacon, sausage, hash browns etc. Also it’s served from about 7.30 to 10.30
And all of them stale because they keep changing them out for a week. The biggest thing missing is most european hotels don't have waffle makers- or if they do they're missing syrup. One hotel I stayed at put the syrup next to their stale pancakes, and nutella next to the waffle maker- they had it very backwards.
You clearly stayed in shit hotels, mate. I wouldn't stay anywhere that had anything stale on a breakfast table and I'd throw a fuckin wobbly at anyone that tried to serve me stale food.
Did you just roll over like a good puppy and eat it anyway?
I was given a piece of toast and an orange when I went to a hotel breakfast in the UK. In Germany, I think they laughed at me when I asked if breakfast was included.
Your company sent you to some shit hotels then. I think the earliest breakfast end time I've been to is 8am, and that one was a bit more expensive than the others. Most hotels I stay at serve breakfast until 10am.
I'm not the person you are replying to, but my experience has been that they don't make any new food after ~8AM and most of the good stuff is pilfered before then, so although they serve until 9 or 10, there's rarely anything left if you arrive close to the end (or anything that you'd want to eat)
Was it a Super8 or Motel 6? I bet it was. No place that offers breakfast and is also worth staying at at any price does that. On the bright side you now know where not to go.
When I traveled for work, we mostly used Mariott or Hyatt or occasionally Holiday Inn. Not much choice when you have to stay wherever the company has an account. The one I described above was Mariott.
Depending on the assignment, I often had to work nights, so "just get up earlier" wasn't really an option.
10 is late for most of them - 9 is pretty common. If you're at the kind of vacation place where you're hanging out and relaxing, maybe staying up late, waking up at 8 so you can get ready and get down to eat breakfast, doesn't feel like last relaxing, which is OP's point. Of course people can do it, but a lot of times we want to sleep in on vacation.
If you're not maniacally ripping every minute of theoretical fun out of your vacation with an insane timetable that begins at 0500, you're probably rich enough that your dietician has you fasting intermittently.
Or you’re rich enough to afford breakfast from anywhere you want.
Hotel breakfasts tend to be more expensive than eating out.
Or they're free.
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I am thinking about it the other way around. Most people consider vacations as a chance to get rest, because they are working starting 5 in the morning for the rest of the year.
That’s the conundrum - for many people anything that follows a timetable is not fun per definition.
Why do you need a dietician to run an IF protocol?
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You got me fucked up if I'm waking up early on my master approved break from wage slaving. I'm waking up at noon and I'm having a bowl for breakfast.
Bowl of peanut butter crunch.
After ripping a steamroller of course
ripping a steamroller across your favorite shirt.
After getting high of course
high up in the hotel because the club level’s breakfast has an omelette station.
After smoking marijuana of course
The smoked marinara dipping sauce is a regional favorite, complementary offered at all meals to the hotel's guests.
After inhaling thc vapors purely for recreation of course
The gnc flavors of vitamins go well with a healthy bowl of fresh fruit for your daily nutritional and fiber needs.
After freebasing an eight-ball of crack cocaine of course.
Freeshotting the 8-ball without cracking the pool table cloth.
After smoking a blunt while listening to Bob Marley of course.
We've let morning neurotypicals rule over us for too long!!
It is time to rebel & rebuilt!
(But a bit later, it's like 9am here)
I honestly aggree. I arranged my shit quite well, started working late, worked till it's late. It is how I like it, I get really productive at ~15:00 till ~19:00. Now my children go to school (therefore I have to get up early) and they banned working after 18:00 at my company (thanks labour union, I get what you wanted to do, but you screwed me). My productivity dropped so much it stresses me out and I am constantly tired, because I don't sleep enough.
Same - I've basically forced my employer to de facto let me work whenever I want.
I mean, they just like the output they get and with literally no drawbacks, so it's especially shitty knowing that I've basically been fighting some ... traditions?
Its literally just full on discrimination (as classification I mean), it's just too much of a dispersed problem to gain attention & we are all brainwashed (starring late is considered lazy yet finishing early isn't).
We shall begin the revolution at the crack of noon!
**Groans** Noon?
That's so early!
Noon? That's when I eat breakfast! Can we do 5 pm?
Rebel now. Rebuild ... ah, let's rebel first and then take a nap or have a snack. The rubble will be needing to be rebuild tomorrow still.
No, we rebuild when normies are sleeping so when they wake up everything is already different, scheduled changed, work hours flexible, any reference to time before noon punishable.
Meeting scheduled before 9? Instant kick to the balls. Meeting scheduled during lunch? Believe it or not, that's a paddling. I mean kick to the balls.
Padding-style kicks to the balls.
And a sign up that says YOU MUST NOT TAKE THINGS FROM THE BREAKFAST ROOM!
Yeah, fuck you. Pockets full of churros.
Damn I need to stay at your hotels. The ones I stay at usually you're lucky if you get fresh fruit
I went to one that had a random box of dunkin Donuts 12ct that clearly had gone through their break room and nobody wanted the rest lol
Damn got that 5 star treatment
“Continental breakfast” means some shitty $0.50 box of dollar store knockoff brand cereal and a paper bowl.
Even better when the box itself is the bowl and it inevitably leaks rainbow colored milk everywhere.
I think churros are pretty common at Comfort Inn. Maybe of the “Marriotts” as well—like Fairfield Inn maybe.
ATTENTION ALL NINES: FOOD IS TO BE CONSUMED, NOT HOARDED
I saw Pockets Full O' Churros live once! Good show...
ahh that brings back my memory of sneaking out lettuce from the hotel cafeteria so I can give it to the local perfume & tea shop keeper's tortoise, talking with the locals is the best
look at this tiny big chomp :)
This is why you don’t pay for breakfast (if you have the option), wake up late at your time and go discover a local spot and some food to eat as breakfast/lunch item.
I believe that's called Brunch in classical English.
You know another way you're not allowed to be lazy on vacation?
If you get an AirBnB, you have to clean the place before you leave.
Hotels have cleaners who clean your room so you can leave it a mess. I shouldn't have to do chores when I'm on vacation. One of many reasons I prefer hotels.
Only reason I use an AirBNB is if it's a unique location where there are no hotels (like a cabin in the woods on a river or something) but I agree, I only book ones that don't have a ridiculous checkout policy.
I also hate that private equity has taken over towns with short term rentals making the rest of us pay more in rent.
We once used it back when it really was just individual people with extra places renting them out short-term when we stayed in New York, but that was like 2009. And then my mom insisted on paying for one when she went with me to the Mayo Clinic earlier this year, but at least it was just someone renting out the bottom half of the duplex they owned and not a corporation... but yeah, unless there's just not another good option, I'm not doing AirBnB when it's my choice.
Cleaning fee and also you have to clean up before you go. What is the cleaning fee for?
It goes towards the owner's next single-family home that they'll turn into a rental
AirBnB was better than hotels for like a year or two, then the landleeches got greedy
Our vacation days generally consist of stalking the area for good food and doing tourist-y things to fill the time between meals. My partner's favorite thing to do during vacation downtime is to find more restaurants and cafes in the area for the next day, so hotel food is never a factor.
“Vacation is basically just eating at different locations.”
City vacations: restaurant hunting
Nature vacations: grueling 6am deathmarch #87
Beach vacations: binge drinking and washing sand out of things
The worst breakfast I ever had was at a Courtyard Marriott that was under renovation. Since then, I made a policy to find the best local breakfast diner any place I went, even if the hotel breakfast was included.
Haven't regretted it once.
That was how I learned Boston has no good breakfast spots.
Also the hotel only served breakfast on certain days of the week? What the fuck is that about. But they gave me a free glass of wine when I got back to the hotel one night.
I don't want the shitty hotel breakfast anyway, so there! 😛
Have you been to a hotel breakfast in Europe? So heavenly
Europe is a pretty big continent...the breakfast you get in the Netherlands is going to be different to the one you get in France or the UK.
Yes, we have several hotels over here, in the county (city? village?) of Europe.
Italy vs. Germany. The only occasion where Germany wins against Italy when it comes to food. But Turkey is where the real breakfast kings reside.
Hold up- did you just say German food is better than Italian? I have never once in my life seen a German restaurant. Italian restaurants are all over the place
Edit: apologies. I misread and that you said "is when it comes to food". Sounds like I need to try me some German breakfast.
German breakfast is good, but it isn't the greates breakfast on earth. But Italian breakfast is terrible. It is basically coffee and some sweet pastry.
IDK I might be biased but what you described sounds like heaven.
Meanwhile Germans fry sausages at every occasion, call that cuisine, and yet aren't event the best in Europe at doing that.
No fried sausage at a German breakfast. That is England.
Yes, but many big hotel chains have a buffet style breakfast that does not only include typical local food. For instance in France a local breakfast would be bread, croissant or other pastries, and a coffee, but you would also find scrambled eggs, bacon, cereal, etc.
Smaller hotels will be more local though yes.
That's a continental breakfast, and they're popular in the US too, both east and west coast.
Okay I've had hotel breakfasts in literally those three and it was great. But you make a good point.
I don't know what hotels you go to but my experience has been pretty mid across most of Europe. Bog-standard continental breakfast buffets. Croissants, orange juice, cereal, toast, all of mediocre quality.
Not terrible as it is, but you can likely get infinitely better breakfast by hopping over to any cafe across the street.
Strongly disagree, I've stayed in a fair few hotels around the world. Best are usually US or Asia(not China)
Lmao you consider dry powdered eggs that peak cuisine or something?
What?
I haven't. Where's the best? I've always wanted to see Belgium
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Literally most places, and depends on what you like. I think anywhere in France is the tits for delicious food (try traveling outside of Paris as well).
Lmao what
I’ve been to Sweden a couple times, and the real food they serve in hotels or cafeterias versus the industrial processed eating product that we usually have in the US really puts us to shame.
But that goes for many aspects of the culture. The whole, you know, respect other humans thing.
Eh, I've had better in every restaurant around the hotel.
Can confirm, been to hotels all over Europe, even the fancy a la carte ones are fairly shitty if you dont need breakfast like a normie morning person.
I don't know where everyone is staying but I normally get a choice of single serve cereal bowls, bagels with maybe 3 types of spread, some type of juice, coffee, milk, and occasionally a selection of fruit. Everything is served with cheap plastic or cardboard not silverware, glass, cloth or ceramic.
I honestly wouldn't know because they clean that shit up at 9:30.
I have never seen a hotel breakfast that wasn't being put away by 9am.
Do people eat breakfast past 7am
Do people wake up before 7am?
Do people wake up before 7am ... on vacation???
I like breakfast around 10-10:30, +/-, so yeah.
Don’t you have some soil to till?
I eat breakfast between 12-14h. After I went to bed at 6.
Breakfast is when you wake up, it doesn't have a specific time.
Pretty much every hotel without “inn” in the name has at least reconstituted egg foam, bacon, and sausage.
That would be a continental breakfast. What's shown in the picture is closer to an English breakfast
The US doesn't have anything called an English breakfast outside of restaurants which specifically cater to that. Aside from what looks like quiche, that looks like a pretty standard continental breakfast.
Holy fuck you guys have low expectations for a continental breakfast 😂
You forgot the waffle/ pancake machine.
I went to a 3-star hotel that was also doing this. Their free breakfast also includes eggs that came from a carton.
4-5 star hotels in Europe tend to serve quality food in a decent tableware.
1-3 star hotels do as well
I think good hotel breakfast peaks at the middle of the price curve.
I stayed at a La Quinta by Portland airport and they had pancakes, Belgian waffle machines with butter and syrup, biscuits, bacon, eggs, cereal, fruit, juice... For a $115 a night room.
I've stayed at the Four Seasons in Chicago and they had bread and juice.
I travel a lot for work, and this is my experience in and around Germany (even for small, family owned, 10 bedroom hotels):
For drinks:
It's because they don't want to give out free food (but want to make it seem like they do want to give out free food), so they will make it available only when people are less likely to go for it.
Free food? Since when is the hotel food free?
Here you always have to pay for it even if you usually do it when booking
In the US several hotels will offer a "continental breakfast" included with the stay. I guess you could argue that it's not really free, considering it's factored into your stay at the hotel, but there is technically not a separate charge for it and it's considered an "amenity". I know that this is not necessarily common in other places, so I thought I would mention in case you were not aware.
I'd say you're correct except now it's more "used to offer". In Europe it's usually included and it's a good spread, in the US it was a decent spread, then cereal and processed muffins, and now it's.... A Starbucks Togo you have to pay for
It's so weird seeing almost 500 upvotes on a post like this on lemmy where, based on comments, like 90% of it's users can barely afford rent, let alone going on vacation and staying at a place that offers breakfast.
I would expect most lemmings, like myself, to have spent more time in company-paid hotel rooms than vacation hotel rooms
I think that's a very strange assumption.
Can confirm.
Source: I think last time I paid for a hotel myself was 2009. I have no idea how many nights I've spent on company expense since then, but it must be in the hundreds.
Nah. Job is pretty chill, pays well, I usually get to choose the hotel, and I get to see new places.
But you never take a vacation.
I do, I just don't pay for them myself. I usually show up at my destination early, or I leave late. I've racked up enough hotel bonus points to cover most of it for free.
Bold assumption but it checks out for me. It is based on lemmy being so tech heavy?
Young-leaning and tech heavy. In my case I'm trades rather than tech, but the result is the same: company has work they need done out of town, so I end up in a hotel
"You can't be struggling if you've stayed in a hotel before."
We remember those placer from when we were kids though.
I haven't been on a holiday since I was a kid, but I remember these hotel breakfasts.
There are also people outside of america. In my country i could afford to go on a week-long vacation every year in europe with basically a minimum-wage salary if that is what i want to prioritize in life.
Could it be possible that these are different groups of people? Lemmy has like 70,000 monthly users now.
45k according to fedidb, but I don't know how accurate that one is.
I mean, I travel for work a lot and have to stay weeks in hotels. And weeks means weekends, so yeah I can relate. There's a lot of people I meet around the world that travel like me and wouldn't be able to afford those same hotels for a vacation... like me lol
I don't believe that. There is no way Lemmy is that poor on average
Oh it's just the usual people that complain that they can't afford anything but somehow they've visited 35 countries so far in their life and are planning their next trip to add one more to the list.
Well I mean, the majority of hotels don't even serve free breakfast anymore once they realized they could get away with not having it or making it a paid thing. This used to be common a while ago, when I'm sure Lemmy users used to be taken on vacations by their parents.
Pretty sure there are more than 10% of Europeans on this site.
Not everything is as dystopian as the US.
Lemmings only like to pretend to be poor.
Why would I have breakfast right before going to sleep?
Breakfast to end a heavy night is awesome though. Just like the classic fast food on the way home. Hotel breakfast is even a classic for that too.
All the hotels i ever stay in anymore don't have a restaurant or a bar just bare bones. I stayed in a Holiday Inn Express once and it had a pancake machine
Holiday Inn Express is the most miserable breakfast I've ever had in a hotel. The selection was basically lard with sugar on it, and whatever drink you chose tasted of chlorine.
I'm normally not much of a breakfast person, but work had booked me in at HIE once, and as I had a long day ahead I had to force myself to eat something. And the selection available didn't exactly make it easier.
After that I always make sure to book the hotel myself. I'm not that picky in terms of hotel, as long as the eatery is decent.
Well that's concerning
I never had tap water in the US that didn't. No wonder why bottled water is so popular there. I'm sure they have better water in more mountainous states, but TX, LA, MS and AL tastes like chlorinated swamp.
Most of my life I've lived in places where the tap water comes from natural lakes in nearby mountains, with bird poop as the only additive. I therefore notice the chlorine very easily, to the point where my coworkers claim they don't notice it at all.
In New Zealand our tap water is mostly okay to good, with the exception of Whanganui. Tap water there has lots of lime (not the fruit) in it so I tend not to drink tap water as a habit, despite living in the south island now which has nice and cold tap water pretty much everywhere. Never heard of chlorine in the tap water around here lol
Does lime have a flavor to it?
It does, not really sure how to describe it other than unpleasant, maybe metallic like. It also leaves residue in boiling jugs that needs to be cleaned periodically.
Yeah, uh... Don't know how to say this, but if your water smells like chlorine, I don't recommend drinking it. Might be ok for survival, but it's definitely not for regular consumption.
Pancake machine sounds fancy.
Thanks! It's my nickname!
I like Drury Inns. They do have the standard "breakfast ends at 9:30" thing which sucks for late sleepers, but they also have a 5-7 pm "happy hour" with snacks and both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks provided gratis. It's a way to avoid paying for dinner if you can do it and you don't care about your dinner being snacky stuff, but if you're on vacation, let dinner be snacky stuff.
I love having breakfast early in the monring in hotels when most people are still asleep. I can take my time, read in peace, no queue for the coffee, etc...
I am the same. I wake up early regardless and my wife and daughter don't, so I can go downstairs and have breakfast and hang out down there for a while as they sleep and then get them up 20 minutes before they stop serving it.
Can't afford to go anywhere and sleep in a Hotel anyways.
Why would I spend the time and money on a vacation just to waste it on being lazy? I can do that at home. On vacation I'm up before sunrise, take a shower, and grab breakfast before I start my itinerary for the day.
If I wanted to wake up before my biological clock tells me to and follow a schedule, I could just go to work.
I'm a freelance software dev, you just made me realized I should vacation on a schedule so I have some variety in my life.
I paid for this uncomfortable hotel mattress, and I'm going to damn well use the fucking thing!
Ok dad
That sounds like work with extra steps.
You can also maximize your time sleeping in too. Stay out and have fun on the town, head back to the hotel at 3am. Some people are night owls, some people like mornings. Nothing wrong with either.
Personally waking up before sunrise feels awful for my body and brain function, but I get it.
We have different vacation philosophies. Mornings are nebulous unplanned times for everyone to do what they want like sleeping in, relaxing by the pool, getting brunch at a nice place, and light sight seeing. I usually don't have scheduled goals/events for the day until afternoons and evenings while on vacation. I can't enjoy being somewhere new if I'm too burnt out and exhausted to participate and experience it properly.
Because you could spend more of your time in the evening, when there are more things to do in town.
Mornings are boring. Evenings are exciting.
Lol I never got this.
It's not sneaky, most would happily tell you it's a combination of that plus not wasting food for the few people who would normally meander out at the crack of noon
That and I think the people getting breakfast that early are on a business trip rather than on vacation
There are two types of hotels: those who serve early breakfasts because most of their clients are early birds, and all inclusives where most of the clients are night owls. You're just staying at the wrong type of hotel.
Honestly it's never worth it.
Maybe I'm in a fortunate position. But I have never been to a place where breakfast was as good as an average cafe.
From my experience: If Hotel A and Hotel B were pretty identical the same but for $20 more, you get all you can eat breakfast, don't bother. Just buy breakfast.
You clearly weren't paying enough. Some of those hotels are 200 a night minimum
Never got the breakfast, or...?
I guess most normal people wake up pretty early, even on vacation.
A lot of people who are staying at those hotels and bothering with the continental breakfast are there for work, not vacation.
Its still weird to me how English breakfast is (that much of) a thing.
Like a couple of centuries ago for the difference in the sheer standard of living, sure, maybe at that point it was luxurious in terms of ingredients alone, ... but still?
English breakfast is like the only decent thing to come out of that place
Which isn't a high bar, but I agree with you.
Bri'ish food isn't that bad, I mean the yanks deep fry butter for god sake.
Yanks do? If anything that would be more of a southern thing, but I don't think its a common thing anywhere other than as fair food or something
It even isn't really a southern thing, its an attention grabber for capital. No one eats or thinks of deep fried butter save for those that go to fairs and get it waved in their face.
Yeah that's what I figured
Fried butter is like a novelty fair food over here, it's not a real dish.
Blood pudding in the UK, on the other hand . . .
Edit: also I'm pretty sure Scotland would deep fry tf out of some butter
Blood sausage isn't just a UK thing, variations are found in pretty much every cuisine that eats meat. And it's not even like its super popular in the UK, its very often not even included in a full English breakfast.
I didn't say it wasn't. Fried butter is also delicious. I was just making a comment as to the availability of the dishes in their respective countries.
https://youtu.be/et6HWai1V_c?t=61
You don’t like Fish and Chips?
English food is fine as long as it is not prepared by the English.
It's because the alternative is "continental breakfast" which consists of a few slices of warm ham, tiny slices of bread and a bunch of fruit that's already on the turn.
That's why I'm sticking with alpine/Austrian breakfast: Real bread (Google "Schwarzbrot"), real cereals (a mix of oats, dried fruits and nuts, with hot milk) or Sterz (a breakfast made from ground maize, couldn't find a translation) with apples and raisins. Depends on how much time I have and what I'm doing on that day (before a long hike or a long day of skiing Sterz is the best).
I think Polenta is internationally more well known. Sterz is similar to Polenta.
Good point. They're the same, the difference lies in how you continue after cooking it.
Way to gatekeep. 🙄
Sometimes, it's good to gatekeep. @pumpkinseedoil is correct on this one
Not even one bit. Fluffy bread is superior in every way in my opinion. And eating raw oats is just nasty.
I guess it was named so during the early 40s.
Im allowed to be lazy everyday if i want
Life hack, you are absurdly drunk at 3am asking for French toast and Cheerios. Me 1, Hotel 0
Thanks for reminding me of the high school days. Very painful memories.
Just get used to eating hours-old food and you can get there at 10 just before closing time.
The staff might look at you funny, but you can wake up at any time you want and set your own schedule.
Where are you staying that the breakfast is open that late on a weekday?
Many hotels do 7-10 instead of 6-9. Depends on whether it's a tourist location or worker-heavy
/shrug
A middle-of-the-road priced business hotel in Brazil, and that's all I can say to that. Stayed there for a concurso público (no earthly clue how to translate that) two months ago.
The thing was at 12pm which made it rather inconvenient to get lunch before the event, so I slept in, arrived at breakfast at 9:50, there were still half a dozen people there, food was a bit old but I got what I needed.
Ah, so it's not in the US. Most hotels in the US that serve breakfast would probably start cleaning up the breakfast around 8 or 9am (9 or 10am on weekends).
as someone who regularly brings a literal suitcase of bagels back from NYC to my uncivilized home state, I know the exact feeling you mean
(protip to be un-fire-able: bribe coworkers with new york bagels)
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I love how they call it a continental breakfast like it's supposed to be fancy but everybody on earth actually wants an English breakfast
They call it continental because it's in the style of what is served on the (European) continent.
what I mean to say is, I think they choose a continental breakfast because it sounds fancy and is cheap. not that they made up the word Continental for it
Almost every half-decent hotel I've stayed in on the continent has a self-service mix of both. The breads, hams and cheeses of a continental but also heated cloches of eggs, bacon, sausage, hash browns etc. Also it's served from about 7.30 to 10.30
If they sell you a shit breakfast, leave a one-star review and make a difference. Instead of rolling over and having your belly tickled by capitalism like the yanks do
Some shocking breakfasts in this thread but more shocking that some people just shrug and go "It is what it is"
It was styled on what Americans imagined European breakfasts to be like in the 50s, and cost optimized over subsequent decades.
And all of them stale because they keep changing them out for a week. The biggest thing missing is most european hotels don't have waffle makers- or if they do they're missing syrup. One hotel I stayed at put the syrup next to their stale pancakes, and nutella next to the waffle maker- they had it very backwards.
You clearly stayed in shit hotels, mate. I wouldn't stay anywhere that had anything stale on a breakfast table and I'd throw a fuckin wobbly at anyone that tried to serve me stale food.
Did you just roll over like a good puppy and eat it anyway?
I've stayed in a lot of different hotels, sometimes the best in the city. Sometimes just meh.
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Most hotels outside the US and Canada actually do a legit good breakfast. Not this cheap carb garbage they do in the States.
I was given a piece of toast and an orange when I went to a hotel breakfast in the UK. In Germany, I think they laughed at me when I asked if breakfast was included.
dude, refrigerators aren't included when you rent apartments in Germany.
Neither are wardrobes and beds, so be aware
I really think you have this backwards- at least in my experience. I wonder if you're just staying in nicer hotels when you're on vacation.
I love it when the breakfast is hot water and instant oatmeal
That's honestly better than most continental breakfasts.
Please speak for yourself. If I had to eat an English breakfast before 6pm that’d be a lost day for me. Because that’s dinner food.
10am is not sunrise
Isn't it usually like 10am? If you can't be fucked to get free food that's on you.
The last time I stayed at a hotel, they stopped filling the breakfast bar at like 7 and served whatever was left until 9.
I used to travel for work quite a bit, and that one had one of the more generous breakfast offerings.
Your company sent you to some shit hotels then. I think the earliest breakfast end time I've been to is 8am, and that one was a bit more expensive than the others. Most hotels I stay at serve breakfast until 10am.
Serve until 10, but do they keep putting out new food until then? The ones I'm used to serve until 9 but don't put out any new food after 7.
Oh, if that's what you mean then fair enough. A lot of the places I've been to stop cooking at around 8, so 2 hours under heat is fine imo
I'm not the person you are replying to, but my experience has been that they don't make any new food after ~8AM and most of the good stuff is pilfered before then, so although they serve until 9 or 10, there's rarely anything left if you arrive close to the end (or anything that you'd want to eat)
Was it a Super8 or Motel 6? I bet it was. No place that offers breakfast and is also worth staying at at any price does that. On the bright side you now know where not to go.
When I traveled for work, we mostly used Mariott or Hyatt or occasionally Holiday Inn. Not much choice when you have to stay wherever the company has an account. The one I described above was Mariott.
Depending on the assignment, I often had to work nights, so "just get up earlier" wasn't really an option.
I don't think Motel 6 or Super 8 serve Continental breakfast.
Continental breakfast is a child size box of cereal, a little carton of milk and a piece of fruit. That's it. They put it out on a folding table.
No hotel anywhere only serves breakfast for one hour. Nice try though.
I really hate to break it to you, but I was at one last summer that had the same hours.
Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it's not real.
Yeah it does though. It's called lying on the internet which you're doing.
What a friendly and reasonable response.
Wow! Lying on the Internet is easy!
edit: it's hard to tell on Fedia which comment I actually ended up replying to, but it was directed at db2 if I messed it up
10 is late for most of them - 9 is pretty common. If you're at the kind of vacation place where you're hanging out and relaxing, maybe staying up late, waking up at 8 so you can get ready and get down to eat breakfast, doesn't feel like last relaxing, which is OP's point. Of course people can do it, but a lot of times we want to sleep in on vacation.
The trick is to get food and then go back to sleeping in, but with a full belly
I wish I could, but once I'm awake enough to be up, that's it for me.
Impossible to fall asleep an hour after waking up.
Seems like it used to be 10, but everywhere I've been in recent years is 11.