As an avid carnivore I'm excited about lab grown meat. I think anyone against it just doesn't realize what it is. It's literally meat. It's just not attached to an animal. That's all it is.
The best part is because it's not attached to an animal that needs animal things, it's basically free limitless meat. What meat lover wouldn't want that? Come on now.
I'm not too fond of all the lab grown microplastics though.
Hell, current plant-based alternatives would be doing great too if they weren't inexplicably more expensive. Impossible Meat has a lower environmental impact and requires fewer resources to make than beef? Great! Why does it cost more then? I'm not even vegetarian but I'd happily switch to fake burgers if they weren't double the price.
That tells me demand is more driven by diet & environmental reasons than cost.
To make up numbers:
Price a pound of pleat, er plant meat, at $10, and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists buy it. Drop the price to $8 and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists and 2 price-sensitive environmentalists buy it.
Gross $100 on the former or $99 on the latter. Net more than one dollar extra profit on the former (10 pounds cheaper to produce than 12 pounds). Solution if you’re a profit-hungry corporation? Keep the price high.
If you have a food processor it's trivially easy to make all sorts of plant-based burgers for cheap. Beet burgers are amazing. Not healthy. Oh, no, no, no. Just delicious.
I have seen vegans come out against lab grown meat...for...reasons? I get why they're vegans because of "traditional" meat, but lab grown meat doesn't have the problems of "traditional" meat LMAO
I've been vegan for about 4 years and I will be all over lab grown meat if/when it "makes it".
The biggest issue I remember reading about was "fetal bovine serum" which, IIRC, was needed continuously throughout the process.
Personally, if all that's required to get started is a cell sample from a living animal which isn't harmed beyond the sample (minor and far from life threatening or causing suffering) then I'll be eating it for sure.
I'm vegan and I'll be eating it when it's available provided the only animal product to get started is a cell sample.
But if it requires continuous animal inputs to sustain then it's simply not vegan. You could argue that even acquiring a cell sample to get started also isn't but needing continuous animal inputs certainly isn't.
I'm a flexitarian with meat cravings every so often and I'm exited for Lab-meat too. I'm totally with you know this.
And come on, how many of these people screaming about lab meat actually know where their meat comes from. Most of it comes out of meat processing plants and the thought of these makes me really squeezy. Every now and then there are investigative pieces about them and they are all disgusting and really concerning. I'd take lab-grown any day.
Why would they stop making garbage over-processed meat products just because the base meat doesn't come from animals anymore? It won't be suddenly more healthy if that's what you're saying.
Also, the meat flavors can be refined and adjusted for better results. The proteins and fat can be precisely calculated to make objectively the best steak available to mankind, ever. People against lab grown meat have no idea when they order a steak they are being fed propaganda.
The right wing panic* over how the left wants to destroy hamburgers and make everyone eat bugs is hilarious. You already eat bugs and you love it, you just call them shrimp and lobster!
If you want to say that doesn’t count, you STILL probably eat bugs in any processed food that’s red and doesn’t have artificial dye in it. They’re listed as cochineal/carmine/crimson lake/natural red 4/E120 <- these are all the same bug!
* not saying that’s what you’re doing OP, that’s just the most common context I see it
As long as food is processed correctly either through farm animals or a lab I really don't care what it is. Actual health should be the only priority above any profits or ambiguity.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm so entirely down for lab grown meat. If they can get the texture and taste perfected, and make manufacturing fast and effcient, it'd be a much better alternative to raising cows and chickens. No animal suffering, no devoting huge percentage of our arable land to growing food for live stock. It's just an all around win, but some people are so against it, hell Florida made it illegal there!
Pshh they know they can't. Pyramids are just a conspiracy from big government.
Only triangles exist and they know it. Have you ever seen all "4 sides"? Huh? What about the 5th side? Does that even exist? And wouldn't that make it a square?
Remember, I am not obtuse, don't isosce-late me from the truth! We are right!
I'd like to see the triangle grow two additional sides, becoming a 3-sided pyramid. Then, a fourth pops up, turning into a typical 4 sided one. But then, a fifth appears, then a sixth, then more and more untill it becomes a food cone
Then it flips over and gets filled with ice cream. There, the perfect food pyramid!
Joke's on you, antidepressants have been at the top of my pyramid for like 10 years. I figured out that the future actually sucks way before i realized that it was largely the fault of late-stage capitalism. The rest is just people being people.
As an avid carnivore I'm excited about lab grown meat. I think anyone against it just doesn't realize what it is. It's literally meat. It's just not attached to an animal. That's all it is.
The best part is because it's not attached to an animal that needs animal things, it's basically free limitless meat. What meat lover wouldn't want that? Come on now.
I'm not too fond of all the lab grown microplastics though.
The moment lab grown is one PENNY cheaper at the store will be a massive moment for animal welfare.
Hell, current plant-based alternatives would be doing great too if they weren't inexplicably more expensive. Impossible Meat has a lower environmental impact and requires fewer resources to make than beef? Great! Why does it cost more then? I'm not even vegetarian but I'd happily switch to fake burgers if they weren't double the price.
The answer to why is billions of dollars of subsidies to the animal meat industry.
That tells me demand is more driven by diet & environmental reasons than cost.
To make up numbers:
Price a pound of pleat, er plant meat, at $10, and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists buy it. Drop the price to $8 and 5 vegans and 5 environmentalists and 2 price-sensitive environmentalists buy it.
Gross $100 on the former or $99 on the latter. Net more than one dollar extra profit on the former (10 pounds cheaper to produce than 12 pounds). Solution if you’re a profit-hungry corporation? Keep the price high.
Bummer but think that’s what’s going on
If you have a food processor it's trivially easy to make all sorts of plant-based burgers for cheap. Beet burgers are amazing. Not healthy. Oh, no, no, no. Just delicious.
Until the party of freedom bans it. Hasn’t florida already?
Governor Meatball banned it, yeah. Guy's an idiot.
It’s already been banned by entire states. Quite ridiculous and shows who their donors are.
I have seen vegans come out against lab grown meat...for...reasons? I get why they're vegans because of "traditional" meat, but lab grown meat doesn't have the problems of "traditional" meat LMAO
They claim the DNA and cells used to seed the cultures is an "animal byproduct"
I've seen a mixed response in the community.
I've been vegan for about 4 years and I will be all over lab grown meat if/when it "makes it".
The biggest issue I remember reading about was "fetal bovine serum" which, IIRC, was needed continuously throughout the process.
Personally, if all that's required to get started is a cell sample from a living animal which isn't harmed beyond the sample (minor and far from life threatening or causing suffering) then I'll be eating it for sure.
I'm vegan and I'll be eating it when it's available provided the only animal product to get started is a cell sample.
But if it requires continuous animal inputs to sustain then it's simply not vegan. You could argue that even acquiring a cell sample to get started also isn't but needing continuous animal inputs certainly isn't.
I'm a flexitarian with meat cravings every so often and I'm exited for Lab-meat too. I'm totally with you know this.
And come on, how many of these people screaming about lab meat actually know where their meat comes from. Most of it comes out of meat processing plants and the thought of these makes me really squeezy. Every now and then there are investigative pieces about them and they are all disgusting and really concerning. I'd take lab-grown any day.
Yes! Processed meat scares me. People have no issue with it though. Don't look up what's in it if you want your stomach to stay where it is.
Why would they stop making garbage over-processed meat products just because the base meat doesn't come from animals anymore? It won't be suddenly more healthy if that's what you're saying.
I didn't say anything like that.
Also, the meat flavors can be refined and adjusted for better results. The proteins and fat can be precisely calculated to make objectively the best steak available to mankind, ever. People against lab grown meat have no idea when they order a steak they are being fed propaganda.
Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.
Ideally this would completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat
Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.
Ideally it'd completely replace mass produced meat and coexist with organic meat.
The right wing panic* over how the left wants to destroy hamburgers and make everyone eat bugs is hilarious. You already eat bugs and you love it, you just call them shrimp and lobster!
If you want to say that doesn’t count, you STILL probably eat bugs in any processed food that’s red and doesn’t have artificial dye in it. They’re listed as cochineal/carmine/crimson lake/natural red 4/E120 <- these are all the same bug!
* not saying that’s what you’re doing OP, that’s just the most common context I see it
They're just also in anything processed. Everything has an allowable amount of bugs. And it isn't usually 0. https://www.fda.gov/food/current-good-manufacturing-practices-cgmps-food-and-dietary-supplements/food-defect-levels-handbook
As long as food is processed correctly either through farm animals or a lab I really don't care what it is. Actual health should be the only priority above any profits or ambiguity.
it would be funny if it didn't feel like conservative propaganda
People against lab meat give me 5G tower fanatic vibes.
In contrast, politicians against lab grown meat give me "bought out by the meat industry" vibes.
Exactly my thoughts. I'm so entirely down for lab grown meat. If they can get the texture and taste perfected, and make manufacturing fast and effcient, it'd be a much better alternative to raising cows and chickens. No animal suffering, no devoting huge percentage of our arable land to growing food for live stock. It's just an all around win, but some people are so against it, hell Florida made it illegal there!
Yeah, I hope to die a technovegan. But until then I'll just try and limit my consumption because there's no way I'm giving up sausage and cheese
What do people even have against soy milk‽ It tastes great!
I prefer oat milk
You are certainly entitled to that opinion.
Wrong, but entitled.
I like to put it in my coffee and have DOUBLE BEAN WATER
I think you need a screwdriver holding the tip off ever so slightly
No Brawndo? What kind of inaccurate bs is this?
Brawndo has electrolytes!
It's what plants crave!
Show us the other 3 sides of the pyramid!
Pshh they know they can't. Pyramids are just a conspiracy from big government.
Only triangles exist and they know it. Have you ever seen all "4 sides"? Huh? What about the 5th side? Does that even exist? And wouldn't that make it a square?
Remember, I am not obtuse, don't isosce-late me from the truth! We are right!
I'd like to see the triangle grow two additional sides, becoming a 3-sided pyramid. Then, a fourth pops up, turning into a typical 4 sided one. But then, a fifth appears, then a sixth, then more and more untill it becomes a food cone
Then it flips over and gets filled with ice cream. There, the perfect food pyramid!
The 5th side is the bottom.
Survivors can have a little antidepressant. As a treat
Ugh this has "angry dude vlogging from his pickup truck" vibes.
Of course his food pyramid looks like:
What did the original one have where pure reason is now?
My question too.. I'm sure the mod makes/changes a statement, but I'd like to see what.
Edit: here it is - seed oils. Not sure why the change.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen.
Good luck with brain development.
Joke's on you, antidepressants have been at the top of my pyramid for like 10 years. I figured out that the future actually sucks way before i realized that it was largely the fault of late-stage capitalism. The rest is just people being people.
What was the original second tier?
Carbs
we already eat sea arthropods or "bugs": shrimp, lobster, crab.
Bugs and soy milk/lab grown meat on the same pyramid make no sense
Edit to say having Kant under the banner of reason doesn’t make sense either
Can't wait feeding of anti-depressants.
Sounds so fun.
Brother the only thing I'm missing is BUGS
i think you mean oat milk >:(