Andrew Tate and brother Tristan to be tried in Romania on rape and trafficking charges
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But I thought Romania was the perfectly corrupt place for a genius alpha like Tate to operate his "business" without any hassel.
I know you're being sarcastic, but I just find it so hilarious that while Romania may in fact be corrupt, this small-dick-energy idiot somehow managed to make himself the whipping boy with whom Romania will demonstrate to the world how not corrupt they are.
I will giddily await him having his front teeth extracted in make-me-your-bitch prison.
I hope he’s treated well in prison. Especially if courts determine it’s best for society if he spends a lifetime there.
Just realized a part of that is for the workers there. If I were a guard I’d feel best about my job knowing it’s the most ethical prison it can be. If prison rape (if that’s what you were getting at) isn’t the sentence, then it shouldn’t happen. (If it’s the sentence, oh my.)
You're absolutely right, and deep down I do agree that the civility with which we treat prisoners is the measure of society. Some countries more than others tend to engage in "revenge based" justice and its just yuck.
I got a bit carried away with my comment because lately my justice boner just keeps getting deferred or held over. It's been a long time.
Fantastic reply. I’m glad to see civility with internet strangers.
Since the Reddit exodus barring Hexbear and lemmy.ml which I blocked the moment I was able to, all I’ve seen on here is genuine discussion and healthy disagreement. It’s a nice change of pace compared to the rest of the internet.
We all benefit from a society with a higher floor for suffering. We all benefit from a society that doesn’t see hurting people unnecessarily as justice.
I am not a prisoner, I hope to never be one, but if I find myself forced to violate laws to sate my conscience I hope I am treated as kindly as possible, so for that to happen I must demand we treat even the absolute dregs of society as fellow human beings who can reform and don’t deserve unnecessary suffering.
Justice blue balls. I had to.
Yeah, I support humane punishment even for him. I oppose prisons, even for him. But I also will be pissed if he’s treated especially well or cruelly.
He can even record a career-starting single, like Big in Japan, but Charged in Romania.
Imagine being a corrupt system trying to project legitimacy, and that shit stain of a human comes in and admit federal crimes and being a dick all around.
This is a slam dunk to use Tate as a way to project a working system even though it is probably not.
Your last bit has me chuckling. Build-a-bitch workshop with these numbskulls.
Extracted with fists?
Nah that tends to leave broken stumps which might undermine the objective.
Wheres all his defenders now? I thought tate was absolutely innocent and would not be charged blahnlahblah
Screaming the n-word into the voice chat of their Call of Duty lobbies, while eating pizza rolls, and watching Adin Ross on Kick.
I take offense to you trying to vilify pizza rolls like that.
Especially when it was regular, flat pizza that did him in the first time.
Fucking lol'd
I'm sorry m8. I like pizza rolls from time to time too. I share in your pain and shame. We must revitalize their image!
Have you ever watched monster factory?
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=orrcgpJ5tQ4
You mean the gateway drug that sucked me into their media empire?
lol monster factory I think is their finest work…although ep. 50 through roughly 400 are peak podcasting. When I was first listening to mbmbam I was on the subway and in airports crying with laughter. The newer ones I’ve put on haven’t really grabbed me that way. Back in like 2016, I could NOT stop listening.
It’s like the early to mid mbmbam, early to mid Harmontown, and the first two seasons of My dad wrote a porno. The most amazing podcasts ever invented.
Who dat? Wait, never mind; I don't want to know...
Oh man I’ll never forget the plane trip I took where I was sitting next to a young couple and the girl was showing the guy Andrew Tate videos and telling him to be more like Tate. “You know how you’re always complaining like a bitch? Well watch this…” and then she played a video of Andrew Tate talking about how real men are stoic because no one wants to hear about their damn feelings. I was really hurting for this guy but he calmly told her she was an idiot and said Andrew Tate could fuck off.
Good on him!
You mean the prepubescent little internet shits that love him?
Oh, I thought we were talking about my ex husband
Happy for your loss!
Haven't seen many tate defenders on the fediverse. Am I misunderstanding you?
Edit: lemmy -> fediverse
Oh they think they're cleared and this isn't happening. Not joking. People at my work say this shit
They went to Romania because of it's excellent legal system right? No wait, they went there because they thought it was a highly corrupt system in which they could pay their way out of their crimes.
...and now they're going to get prosecuted because they're a highly visible case.
Definitely wise to pick an EU member state to escape the law. This guy has probably never heard of extradition.
EU countries are good place to escape if you're expecting a death sentence or "inhuman" jail conditions (ie. torture, rat cell, etc). Otherwise it's useless
It's only highly visible because he bragged about paying cops hush money. What Tate failed to realize is that hush money applies to both parties. The party accepting the bribe, and the party offering the bribe.
Not just that, but he also publicly bragged about how lax Romania's laws and how they don't care about rape during an administration that is attempting, at least on the surface, to change public perception of themselves worldwide from the corrupt governments of the 90s and 2000s.
Scumbags
Dear Romania,
Let him rot.
Truly Yours,
Ghyste
Nice.
Good. Fuck these scumbags. Maybe some of his shit for brains followers will snap out of it after this. One can only hope.
That isn’t how cults work. They generally visit the leaders in jail and fight to get them freed.
How followers can't stand up and walk for long periods of time.
Nope, fake news! The matrix faked all the evidence!!
Hope he suffers for all the negative influence he's had.
False accusations not the way to do it.
The asshole has literally (not figuratively) admitted to this on many streams
Citation needed.
Here
And Here
And if ya still need more Here is a lawyer reacting to Tate incriminating himself
The not-shitheads of the world really need to start organizing these things, instead of relying on kind strangers keeping their notes.
Meh. See how they didn’t reply back? They are arguing in bad faith, they don’t want/care about citations
they just want you to either waste your time (so they can ignore you) or say something like “you can google it yourself” so they can say “see, you got nothing”
It's not for them, it's for all the other people who read this thread.
Took me all of 30 seconds to prove they're idiots. Time well spent
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Hey, no updates since the links were posted?
You wouldn’t be the kind of person to not admit to being wrong would you? Not very “manly” of you.
I only saw admissions about what is already publicly known. Yes he hired women and did pornography. This is morally wrong and destructive to society.
The rape and trafficking charges are hoaxes because Tate is a prominent figure against the establishment.
Bill Gates is on the Epstein list and his wife left him over the issue yet... No investigation.
To quote George Carlin, "Its a big club, and you ain't in it." Not only am I completely confident he did nothing wrong. They would have buried him under the prison if they had any real dirt. I also know it is political persecution.
damn, we get a twofer!
sounds like every other denier of stuff they know to be true
The narcissist prayer
They put him under a microscope, had to bribe women to turn on him, and even then couldn't get anything.
https://twitter.com/Cobratate/status/1784293077324087364
The literal first link that other persons shared opens with Tate saying:
“I’ve committed federal crimes, can you get me no jail time”
This is paraphrased of him discussing looking for lawyers.
You can’t get a better source than the horse my guy.
So what are your thoughts now?
I’m not trying to shame you here. Just help you find a better role model.
One can recognize an obvious political persecution regardless whether or not they like a person.
Hey armchair warrior, take it from a lawyer
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I'll take your silence after the citations were posted to be an admission that you were 100% wrong about this
I replied. You must not have seen it.
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Assholes 3:16
What bribes does he need to pay to get out of this one?
He doesn't have that amount of money. He publicly humiliated the government and law enforcement of Romania.
Yeah, never announce that you’re committing a crime and that a government won’t stop you unless they can’t stop you. Corruption is built on a foundation of plausible deniability. Take it away and they start risking their power and paydays
What's the punishment over there for rape and trafficking? Life? A rope?
They’re in the EU, they aren‘t some backwards country you imagine them to be
Then answer the question.
Don't you have google? I kinda wish the other user hadn't answered you.
I don't use google. I also think rapists should die in prison. I get it though, a lot of "alphas" want to suck this guys dick.
Rape is 3-18 years trafficking is 3-15. Literally the top Google results.
Goo? Gul? What's that?!? /s
Sounds like a bad version of DuckDuckGo!
/Lying, unfortunately
Oh no!
Anyway, how’s your weekend been going?
Not too bad we're attending a beach football tournament of companies. Our friends did not qualify so we'll be out early. But ! that means lunch at the beach, heheh.
Pretty good. There is a restaurant close to where I live that has got a lot of hype about, took the family there yesterday. It was worth it. Also one of my children has a recital.
Good, good. The flight was a bit bumpy today, but by 11am I was having breakfast at my favorite little place down in front of the mosque. I love the quiet Sunday mornings here.
Shitheads everywhere in shambles
Getting arrested for rape is gay. /s
So what's the difference between this and a conviction?
It's kinda like a grand jury where they decide if there's enough evidence to proceed with the trial, but without the jury. It's what a lot of places have moved to from the grand jury.
This is an indictment I think. It just indicates that the trial can proceed if my understanding is correct.
Thoughts and prayers
NNNNNNOOOOOOOO THIS IS LITERALLY THE MATRIX
he'll try some way to bribe them
the socratic dialogues from a world where plato was strangled 99% of the way to death by his umbilical cord
I disagree. How would killing help? It would only increase the grieving.
this feels very "if you kill a killer then the number of killers in the world stays the same". the thing is, it's the number of victims that matters.
Well, I'm not a big fan of violence in general. There has to be some more peaceful solution, or it's not a solution in my eyes at all.
what would you have done about world war II?
Well I'd argue that we are not in the same situation than WW II anymore.
then lets assume a similar situation pops up, as they do from time to time. someone is hellbent on violence, is already committing a lot of violence, and is escalating rather than stopping. How would you architect a peaceful solution to that, and what would you say to the families of the people who were killed while you were architecting that peaceful solutions. It's all well and good to say "there has to be some more peaceful solution" but then you have to actually find it and implement it.
Obvious political persecution.
Did you drop a /s?
In what way?
🤡
i do find it slightly horrifying that in romania they can just decide to put you in prison indefinitely without having to prove you did anything
They did release him because they can’t do that. However, he then told his buddy that he’s going to flee the country, who then talked about that on his livestream. That's a new offense that lead to him being arrested again.
What? Why did I put known idiots to such high standards I need to reread it a couple of times to believe it. For fuck's sake, it's a ready winner for some award.
i'm referring to his initial arrest
Its very common for people to be arrested and jailed pending a trial. All over the world.
Especially when they talk about fleeing the country.
And are a menace to society
when tate was initially arrested he was held for months without being charged
I, too, find it "slightly horrifying" when countries don't allow serial rapists to walk around free.
Edit: I'm happy to spend today banning and deleting your multiple accounts troll accounts defending Tate, whoever you are.
i'm not defending tate he deserves to rot in prison
i'm saying that a government shouldn't have the power to just dump you in prison without having a reason for it
when tate was initially arrested he was held for months without being charged
being absolutely fine with a system that allows that because in this instance it happened to fall onto a guy you don't like is brain rot
you think the osu protestors that were just released without being charged would've been released at all without a law requiring them to be charged within 24 hours?
i have literally no idea what you're talking about and it makes you sound unhinged
Then you should take a look at both what is left of the two comments I deleted from the troll accounts and the modlog of their deleted comments. But maybe I'm just unhinged and none of that exists.
I mean this happens all the time in the US. A teenager killed himself after being locked in solitary without a trial for aaaages.
They even have laws about when you are not entitled to a legal represtative and when you can be held idefinitely.
They also have an illegal detention centre on foreign communist soil to subvert their own laws.
The UK has similar over reaching laws.
Besides Tate was a flight risk so was held pending investigation.
Don’t act like Guantanamo is related to it being on communist soil. We started renting it from Batista, the guy the Cuban revolution was against. The Cuban communists have never cashed a check for it and insist we’re illegally occupying it
That other countries do it doesn't make it not horrifying. Almost all your examples are horrifying.
Only the last one isn't. Being held pending trial if you threaten to flee the country? That makes sense.
My last point why was why it wasnt horrifying.
But I would argue being held pending trial and being held pending investigation are two dfferent beasts but in this case I am happy.
Maybe don't go to a country with a corrupt justice system to comit crimes in if you want a fair trial? Just a thought.
And if you do, don't brag about it on YouTube.
Simpsons did it first.
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He's innocent.
Funny how you know that.
Only that’s not at all what is happening 🙄
when tate was initially arrested he was held for months without being charged
That is absolutely legal, in practically all countries.
if you're arrested in the us, you have to be charged or released within a specific timeframe
they can't just detain you indefinitely for fun
Right, and that’s exactly how it went with Tate. And I have a feeling you know that? Either you’re playing dumb or you are dumb, and either prompt me to hang up on this time waste of a thread.
simply put, you don't know what you're talking about
Is your username in reference to your treatment of Tate's member? You realize if you're willing he don't enjoy it right?
The judge who approves it has to have some serious reasons. He's a foreigner, wealthy, and accused of serious crimes. You don't get held for months for stealing a loaf of bread. You can also only be held while evidence is being collected pending a trial.
It does suck that law enforcement worldwide can pick you up off the street, fuck up your afternoon/day/week/month/life and then just say 'oops, you're alright'. If you have a better way, you'd be a revolutionary mind.
The US has the same ability under the patriot act laws.
Funny how .. You don't know what you're on about.
in the us, if you're arrested you need to be charged or released within a fixed period, usually up to 72 hours
tate was arrested in december, held for 3 months without being charged, was moved to house arrest, then was charged in june
Yes
can you just not read
Can you prove what you've said without referring to countries like the US? It has no relevance.
what are you asking me to prove? that tate was held without being charged?
Can you just not read?
Pre-trial detention is common all over the world
If you don't like that, don't look up rikers island.
He went there thinking he can pay himself out of the charges so my empathy is limited