My wife, to this day, shuts off the shower and then immediately steps out while water is still running off her soaking wet body, inevitably creating a puddle in the bathroom.
"Honey, why don't you drip for like five seconds, or even grab the towel and give yourself a quick dab before you get out?"
The first time I told her this she just stared at me for a solid 20s while her brain rebooted. But then her "never admit anything ever under any circumstances" instinct kicked in and she responded "wow are you really policing my shower habits?"
So anyway, now she knows better, but still does it because marriage is about compromise, or something.
I give myself knife hands over my body before going for the towel. Towel stays significantly more dry and I can use it several times before it needs a wash.
I got ridiculed for doing this by my partner. I do it very quickly and vigorously, it just makes a ton of sense to me; I end up being dry faster and more efficiently than going straight to the towel.
Things like to grow on wet stuff. Even if you're clean, wet towels will start to grow things and get an odor. The quicker the towel gets dry the quicker it doesn't grow stuff.
IMO it matters more how long it has been since you last washed it, not how wet it was. It also depends a lot more on the climate. A wet and humid client will be worse than a house with central heating in the winter, where things are notoriously dry.
Am I the only one who lays a towel out on the floor in front of the shower? This thread has me thinking what I thought was standard practice might not be.
A (very smart and educated) girlfriend once told me it was so smart how I actually dry off my body with the towel instead of just wrap myself and wait for myself to dry naturally. We only have 4 limbs.
If anything, this guy is describing a healthy relationship. You don't have to have a discussion where you share your heart and feelings about every issue. That's exhausting having to learn and grow all the time.
Imagine a friend that you joke around and are comfortable with. You would say "fuck you, I'll drip wherever I want. You're just mad because you have no drip." That's a healthy relationship.
Ya know what? I was getting a bit frustrated by the reaction to this, but this genuinely brightened my night. I... don't get people sometimes, but I do enjoy this place.
Bashing your partner is a really popular form of humor, unfortunately. The older sitcoms for example are full of it. It gets appreciated not because it's great humor but because it's a form of coping with the issues, for both the one making the joke and the ones laughing.
There's an episode of The Office where Pam and Jim are trying to make Dwight think he's in The Matrix, so they keep arranging "glitches." Pam trains a cat to walk past Dwight's door and then around to repeat it. As they're telling the camera about it, Jim says "Why didn't we just get two black cats?" and Pam looks at him with the expression I imagine this guy had with his girlfriend.
So I may be incredibly high right now, but I've watched all of The Office at least 5 times now and this scene sounds entirely unfamiliar to me. Is it a deleted scene or something? Because that shit sounds hilarious and I'd love to see it.
It's about making someone question the validity of their perception of reality. It's emotional abuse, not simply tricking or lying to someone.
When I was a kid, my parents weren't gaslighting me when they convinced me the tooth fairy was real by putting money under my pillow and taking the baby teeth. They weren't making me feel like I couldn't trust my perception of reality, or that my feelings were invalid.
(Real world example): My best friend as a teenager tried convincing me he wasn't trying to seduce my girlfriend at the time. He convinced me that my expressions of discomfort with all the "accidental" touching was me being a prude, and when I told him I thought he had ulterior motives trying to hang out with her alone and swim in his pool so often he convinced me that I was being up-tight. Lo and behold, one day in a drug-fueled stupor he admitted to me that he loved her the whole time. Making me feel like I couldn't trust my own feelings on the matter was gaslighting. Now I have trust issues.
You’re overthinking this a bit, the whole point of the matrix is that our reality is fake. Making someone believe they are in the matrix is to make them question their perception of reality. Making someone question their perception of reality is gaslighting.
WebMD: "Gaslighting is an emotionally abusive strategy that causes someone to question their feelings, thoughts, and sanity. If someone gaslights you, they’ll attempt to make you question reality. The purpose of gaslighting is to convince you that you can’t trust your thoughts or instincts."
The definition you found is frustrating because it's too vague and easily misinterpretable. If you look at any full explanation you'll see that the "makes them question their perception of reality" in your definition means it like "undermines their perception of reality".
The way you and the other guy used it is like when mentally healthy people say they have "OCD". It's a watered down buzzword version of a term that's actually useful for understanding life issues when you actually understand what it means.
When I was about 8 years old my aunt told me she returned a belt to the store because the buckle wouldn't fit through the belt loops in her pants. I'll never forget the look on her face when I told her to put it through the other end first.
I'm a professor and require students to submit typed homework as either docx or pdf format - a student wrote their paper in Word, took a screenshot of it (including their desktop), then saved the screenshot in pdf format.
The best thing about Excel is the look of hatred you get when using ctrl+; in front of someone who's been manually entering the date through their entire career.
I didn’t realize I could dry off with a towel while still standing in the bathtub/shower until I was 26. Now my bathroom floor doesn’t get wet on a daily basis.
The perfect bathmat is one of those brown fibre door mats, the kind people also use to get their car out of the snow. Always feels dry, never slips, and lasts for years.
Huh, I tried so many of those over the years and always hated the way they feel. Then a few years back, I discovered mats that are more like towels you can throw on the ground but thicker. So much better. The clincher was that I never knew how to clean the mats, but the towel- like ones can go in the wash whenever towels are cleaned
I’m one of the crew that mostly dries off in the shower where water can drain, and I dry each foot as I step out. There’s no need to handle more water.
I’ve used duck boards in outside showers, so I am familiar with them, but I’m not seeing a need inside, especially where we dry off before stepping out of the shower
Bathrooms should have a floor drain regardless of whether they are of the wet variety. I personally hate the concept of a wet bathroom and the behaviour it encourages. Stuff gets wet that shouldn't, it just makes everything harder and expands the scope of cleaning while compromising "dry" tasks after someone else has used the shower if they partake in the undisciplined behaviour the design encourages. Also not a fan of all the functions being in one room.
No you don't touch the towel to the shower floor, you do everything but that. Then you step into the mat mostly dry, not cold, not making a mess to finish.
After you've skimmed the water off, then towel dried inside the shower, the bathmat barely needs to get wet, especially if you step onto your towel when getting out.
So, one day I'm hanging out with my friend, and he introduces me to his friend. Middle-aged guy, seems pretty nice, but he's having a shit day. Why? Because he had to copy something from an email, and he spent about an hour, flipping back and forth between two windows, copying the email into a Word document or something. I was dumbfounded, and I said "Why didn't you just copy-paste?" The guy stalks off with his head down, muttering under his breath.
Or an iPhone with access to the email. Probably a feature on Android too, idk, I’ve been away from modern Android for ~3 years.
Lots of times I’ve realized it’s easier just to take a screenshot (or even a photo of someone else’s phone…did that tonight when my wife was getting a weird error in Netflix) and then copy the text (or just go right to search from the selection).
I was about 25 years old before I realized I could use warm water to wash my hands in the winter. I'm usually considered a very intelligent individual, but for some reason this never occurred to me. Maybe it's because I grew up poor and we tried to use as little hot water as possible, or maybe I'm just not as smart as people think I am.
The tree of knowledge is enormous. We’re all bound to miss a thing or two. Most people might not ever come across a situation where they are missing that knowledge or they live their whole lives not realizing. Fuck I wonder how many things I haven’t realized yet?
Fuck I wonder how many things I haven’t realized yet?
Just asking that puts you miles ahead of most people in this thread.
Almost everything I do I try to think of a better way of doing it. All of these things people are saying just seem so thoughtless to me, because ... well, they are thoughtless.
If people would think about what they're doing they'd come to these realizations much, much sooner.
That's what soap is for. And for a quick 10-20s hand wash, I doubt the temperature matters much. If I was about to do surgery or something, I'd use as hot of water I could tolerate, but if I'm just washing after taking a piss, yeah, not a big deal.
I think it’s a little more nuanced. If it wasn’t a problem for you then I see no reason to question your intelligence, if it was a big problem and you didn’t see the obvious solution, then I’d be willing to agree with your reasons
Yup, I wash my hands with cold water because waiting for the water to heat up takes as much time as actually washing my hands. I can handle 10-20s or whatever of cold water, but waiting 10s just feels wasteful for a quick hand wash.
Reminds me of the guy that spent his entire life sitting on the toilet with the seat up because he was told "girls use it with the seat down and boys have the seat up".
It wasn't until he got comfortable enough with his partner that when she saw him and asked why he wasn't sitting on the seat did it even occur to him that he could.
My wife and I respect each other's bathroom privacy because it's simply something we don't care to see, although she-like nearly all females I know- doesnt know how a door works and can't close it.
We now live in a place where we have separate bathrooms, and it's awesome.
Growing up we had a walk in shower, the way it was setup there was no way to reach in and not get hit by cold water. Especially a short kid with short arms, you were getting a full blast cold water trying to go "out" of the shower. The tap was the push-pull type and very difficult to modulate so limiting to low pressure trickle was basically a game of russian roulette. The best I could do was hug the wall and let it only get whatever corner of my body I wanted to sacrifice to temporary hypothermia that morning.
some people have posted photos of showers in modern upscale hotels, walk-in showers that have a hole through the glass for you to stand safe & warm & dry outside, reach through the hole from the outside to turn on the water.
This just seems like the wrong way around... Surely it's better to build the shower so the water doesn't go near the tap? Just have the tap off to the side?
Imagine having a sink where the tap was directly underneath the spout.
Yeah that was definitely a take that forgets that valves are still a mechanical system and the knobs are where they are cause they open and close the flow of water there. I guess you could do electrical systems now but.... That's probably a bad idea for so many reasons.
Yes, the plumber would have to put a few extra bends in the pipe, drill through a couple more studs. I don't see that as being a big deal. It's a pretty common thing to see taps that are not directly in line with the shower head.
My friends house had a little spout near the floor in his stand up shower, so you could run the water and test the temperature with your toe. When it was good you pulled the stopper like in a bath and it came out of the shower head.
This would honestly be a reasonable enough excuse on why the OP was set in his ways from something like this. Once you're conditioned to something it takes a hold on you. How often does a person really question a habit they learned at a really early age?
One time I took a pot roast out of the oven and set it on the stove. I turned around to grab something and looked back and thought, no, that needs to be scooted up a bit, and proceeded to grab the handle of the pan that had been out of the oven for all of 4 seconds with my bare hand.
So I just always turn the oven mitt around after I set it on the stove and put it over the handle as a reminder that it's hot
I have burned myself in so many random ways around the kitchen, but this is a nice visual reminder to everyone who might not know that this pan is probably pretty hot still
I remember in first or second grade when I realized that, when I made a mistake, I didn't have to erase the whole word and I could just erase the part I messed up.
Oooh, the password thing totally gets me. Usually I have to start over because I don't know where I messed up. I type them in too damn fast and by the time the little brain part that's monitoring things says, "Hey, that one key was wrong," I'm ten characters beyond and wasn't counting anyway, so I have to start over.
Yeah I might be a weirdo. I count the dots to where I was still comfortable assuming the password was correct until, delete to there, and finish the password again and pretty much always works.
A friend of mine told me a story once about an intern that was tasked with writing a text. She delivered one page of text and was told to write more. She asked how. She didn't know that you could write more than one page in Word.
No, I could se this... Fill up a full page and then it jumps to the next, blank page. If she can't see that the first page exists, she may have thought she just erased all her work by typing one too many keys.
Source: I work in IT and pretty sure I've seen exactly this. Lot's of flavors to the human experience, lemetellyou.
Someone on Reddit once said they didn't realize the white part of your finger nails are where it's unconnected to your skin, and they'd just clip wherever, and often bleed because they'd clip the skin.
I lived in a place I had to do the opposite. The heater was broken, but the tank was outside exposed to the sun. So to get as warm water as I could, I had to go in right away and get the best of it.
I have allergy meds on me at all times, because sometimes I break out in hives for no reason.
One day, I'm sneezing like crazy from seasonal allergies, and my coworker asked if I tried any medicine. I suddenly realized allergy medicine works for allergies
I always wash my flip flops in the cold water while waiting for it to warm up. There's probably something productive that everyone can do with the cold water.
I go hot for the muscles, pores, and lungs. At the end I wind it down to freezing or as close as I can get, a bit at a time. Typically ends in some kind of barbarian spiritual catharsis involving grunting. Then I picture polar bear club and want to die.
I like to do the same and put myself face first into the cold ass water and act like I'm some wild man standing under a freezing waterfall and gasping for breath.
Exactly! I recently installed a double showerhead, so now when I look straight up, it's immersive and horrible! I start taking meditation breaths right before ratcheting the temp down.
I have easier ways to provoke a fight or flight response from my brain, such as receiving a phone call from an unknown number, or having to schedule an appointment in advance
Jokes on you, I can disable the old card and order the new one though the mobile app now! Which happened at least once already. Welcome to the future, where we automate away the human contact and I'm all for it
Cool thing is you can train your flight or fight response with things like cold plunges to be more useful. Cold showers might be a way to reduce your unneeded response to harmless things like phone calls.
Only time I intentionally took a cold shower was after a long bike ride, wearing formal clothing, in the middle of summer. It was freeing and very cold.
The trick is to start at the end of your limbs and move slowly inward until you think you had enough, and definitely not so fast you start to pant: The calmer you are, giving time for the body to switch to the change, the more you'll be able to take, so take it slow. Also don't feel obliged to use only the cold tap, especially in winter that can be rather extreme. Just up to elbows and knees more often than not get you that nice metabolism boost and that's a perfect pre-coffee, OTOH some days are torso days and even others are head days.
My version of this was renter's insurance. I knew about home owners insurance, but somehow I assumed that in the case of an apartment the owner would already have insurance. When my oven caught fire I learned that I'd be responsible for it. I don't recall too much of the initial rental process as that was years ago, so I don't know if it were somewhere in the paperwork but I never recalled even being asked about it.
Renters insurance isn't that expensive and worth having. If you rent and the place burns down, none of your stuff is covered by the landlord's insurance. Pretty sure you also can get personal liability coverage in case you get sued.
Oooh, this one's even trickier these days because some/rental companies will provide their own rental insurance as part of the lease, and give you no option but to pay for it, citing some obscure law or whatever. The trick though, is that rental insurance doesn't cover you, the rentee, but you don't know that unless you wade through the legalese yourself. Then they try to convince you that you don't need any other renters insurance, because you're already covered, which is of course a bold faced lie.
I always knew I could let the shower warm up but it seemed wasteful and I found the cold invigorating so I did it that way until about 40. Something shifted and it was unpleasant instead of invigorating. Signs of getting old I guess.
Not getting old as much as deciding that maybe it’s ok to let yourself enjoy things rather than be strict abt them. For me I was changing a lightbulb and decided that I was done standing dangerously on office chairs so I bought a nice collapsible step ladder.
It took me several years to realize that Canadians were from Canada. Specifically, I didn't connect the spoken words. I was fine with the written words.
When I was 30 I learned that I had pronounced and spelled the German word "unbedingt" wrong my entire life. I thought it was "umbedigt" as in "um jeden Preis". I thought all others spelled and pronounced it wrong or spoke more elaborate than I.
Had an argument with my ex once (both speaking german as a third language) about the pronounciation of 'Umgebung', where she made it sound like "Um'g-bung" for some reason. Ended up asking a random train conductor to settle it.
If you struggle to pay normal bills, letting it warm up makes the bill higher. So grow up poor, and you find out lots of habits of yours exist to save less than a dollar a day.
Does water service not come with a base volume in most places? Where I am, we have a base service fee of $20/m and that includes like the first 2000 gallons, and I struggle to even hit that most months. Jumping in a cold shower wouldn't actually save me any money .
Same here, lived in a few different states and usually never got out of the first “tier” pricing bracket (where this billing method was used), so my water bills were pretty much to the penny the same every month.
Im gonna be the AkShUalLy guy here and say this isnt always the case….
There are shower controls that turn on immediately to full pressure and then adjust for temp as you keep turning, no way to actually control the water pressure without just having fully cold water. These have been around forever…
I installed a newer Delta one in my house a few years ago (2021 or so). They now have a feature where the water temperature is always whatever you set it- no fluctuations of scalding water when someone flushes a toilet or random freezes if someone turns on hot water elsewhere in the house. Or even 2 showers/baths fighting for hot water at the same time. So it’s like an auto-adjusting thing that happens inside that requires max input pressure to work right. Of course, i always want max water pressure, so this was a win-win for me!
To note- this wasnt a crazy expensive, high-end model…it was basically what most of the single knob/lever shower controls are now.
Huh, I grew up with those and thought everyone had them, except somehow people we visited
Now decades later, my shower doesn’t have that function. However it doesn’t matter because there’s only one bathroom so you’re not likely to get pressure changes (I also thought it was normal to have 3 bathrooms)
Pretty mild, though an ex struggled with a standing light for years. It had one of those skinny, turntable hatched poles that you twisted. This one was rather tough to turn to the point that your fingers would slip. I remember looking at her struggling with it one day and asked, "Do you have any rubber bands?"
Same thing. She stopped, stared at me, and got flustered, "I...can't believe I never thought of that...".
I'd be willing to pay the plumber to put in a couple extra hours and put in a couple more pipe bends, if it meant not getting splashed with cold water every day.
I definitely wait for the shower to warm up... But hell yeah drinking in the shower is great. I bring my morning coffee with me quite often. And something I'll get done working on something outside and crack a nice cold beer and head in the house and have a shower to clean up, bring my beer with me!
I took enjoy morning coffee or a cold beer in the shower. Have you ever had a delicious smoothie in the shower? I don't know why but the most enjoyable shower drink I ever had was a cold smoothie while washing off after a trip to the beach
My wife, to this day, shuts off the shower and then immediately steps out while water is still running off her soaking wet body, inevitably creating a puddle in the bathroom.
"Honey, why don't you drip for like five seconds, or even grab the towel and give yourself a quick dab before you get out?"
The first time I told her this she just stared at me for a solid 20s while her brain rebooted. But then her "never admit anything ever under any circumstances" instinct kicked in and she responded "wow are you really policing my shower habits?"
So anyway, now she knows better, but still does it because marriage is about compromise, or something.
I give myself knife hands over my body before going for the towel. Towel stays significantly more dry and I can use it several times before it needs a wash.
I got ridiculed for doing this by my partner. I do it very quickly and vigorously, it just makes a ton of sense to me; I end up being dry faster and more efficiently than going straight to the towel.
Sometimes it's okay to tell your partner to go fuck themselves.
Just give them a vibrator/fleshlight, same message but more constructive.
Look at this guy over here, washing his towels.
This is it, my least favorite comment chain today
alt-text: relevant Dilbert
That’s how you fuck up your towel mushroom harvest.
The good ol' hand squeegee
I just shake like a dog for a good 10 seconds.
I've done this for years!
Why does your towel need to be washed more often if it gets wetter?
The water coming off your body is pretty clean (you just showered).
Things like to grow on wet stuff. Even if you're clean, wet towels will start to grow things and get an odor. The quicker the towel gets dry the quicker it doesn't grow stuff.
IMO it matters more how long it has been since you last washed it, not how wet it was. It also depends a lot more on the climate. A wet and humid client will be worse than a house with central heating in the winter, where things are notoriously dry.
I squeegee my whole body with my hands before stepping out
I call it knife hands.
Me too! No pools of water on the floor, no wet towel after 1 shower.
Me too. At least my head if not everything.
It's a good thing she's not single, I would hate being in a relationship with your wife!
Thank you for your service, OP
Anyone whose first instinct is to get defensive when offered good faith advice… yeah keep em away from me
Yeah but this guy could be a controlling asshole who follows her around all day laying down "life hacks".
We just don't know.
I dry myself completely while still in the shower and it's a mystery to me why not everybody is doing this.
Because sometimes I leave the towel hanging on the door hook :')
Ok? And?
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Think dripping all over the floor the farther the towel is from the shower :)
Am I the only one who lays a towel out on the floor in front of the shower? This thread has me thinking what I thought was standard practice might not be.
Yes, because other people have bath mats...
Which you then need to keep clean and replace. Using a towel is smarter, but some people just love putting unnecessary rugs everywhere.
A (very smart and educated) girlfriend once told me it was so smart how I actually dry off my body with the towel instead of just wrap myself and wait for myself to dry naturally. We only have 4 limbs.
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Excellent username! I needed a reminder that losing is Fun™️ this morning.
She reminds me of my 3rd ex wife.
"I am dumbass, quit soaking the bathroom."
Oh shit, I do that too! Never occurred to me to stand there and drip for a minute. 😅
I do this out of habit
That's a really shitty way to talk about your partner.Is this supposed to be funny or something? I'm neurodivergent and can't tellYep, has a humorous tone for sure. Don't worry, this guy doesn't hate his wife.
If anything, this guy is describing a healthy relationship. You don't have to have a discussion where you share your heart and feelings about every issue. That's exhausting having to learn and grow all the time.
Imagine a friend that you joke around and are comfortable with. You would say "fuck you, I'll drip wherever I want. You're just mad because you have no drip." That's a healthy relationship.
At the same time, sometimes it's good to say "yeah, your way might be better." Of course, I'm single, so take my comment with a grain of salt.
Lul damn that's a good comeback at the end there.
That's best friend energy alright. Or, perhaps, a loving sibling energy
Only in Kentucky and Alabama.
Minus the witnessing eachother dry off after a shower.
This comment has it all. This is Lemmy.
Ya know what? I was getting a bit frustrated by the reaction to this, but this genuinely brightened my night. I... don't get people sometimes, but I do enjoy this place.
someone can totally love their partner and still find some of the stuff they do infuriating.
also my oldest kid did this. it's infuriating! (but i love him.)
Sure, that's exactly what your comment history seems to imply. You are not using it as an excuse at all (even if you are)
Really shitty? This is mildly shitty at worst IMO.
Fair enough
Bashing your partner is a really popular form of humor, unfortunately. The older sitcoms for example are full of it. It gets appreciated not because it's great humor but because it's a form of coping with the issues, for both the one making the joke and the ones laughing.
There's an episode of The Office where Pam and Jim are trying to make Dwight think he's in The Matrix, so they keep arranging "glitches." Pam trains a cat to walk past Dwight's door and then around to repeat it. As they're telling the camera about it, Jim says "Why didn't we just get two black cats?" and Pam looks at him with the expression I imagine this guy had with his girlfriend.
So I may be incredibly high right now, but I've watched all of The Office at least 5 times now and this scene sounds entirely unfamiliar to me. Is it a deleted scene or something? Because that shit sounds hilarious and I'd love to see it.
Yes they released it when they moved the series to peacock, I didn't know either. Enjoy your surprise new office content
And thats what we call gaslighting!
Very cool, very funny, very good behavior!
/s
That's not what gaslighting means
Sounds like making someone believe they are in the matrix fits this perfectly but I’m no englishmatologist
It's about making someone question the validity of their perception of reality. It's emotional abuse, not simply tricking or lying to someone.
When I was a kid, my parents weren't gaslighting me when they convinced me the tooth fairy was real by putting money under my pillow and taking the baby teeth. They weren't making me feel like I couldn't trust my perception of reality, or that my feelings were invalid.
(Real world example): My best friend as a teenager tried convincing me he wasn't trying to seduce my girlfriend at the time. He convinced me that my expressions of discomfort with all the "accidental" touching was me being a prude, and when I told him I thought he had ulterior motives trying to hang out with her alone and swim in his pool so often he convinced me that I was being up-tight. Lo and behold, one day in a drug-fueled stupor he admitted to me that he loved her the whole time. Making me feel like I couldn't trust my own feelings on the matter was gaslighting. Now I have trust issues.
You’re overthinking this a bit, the whole point of the matrix is that our reality is fake. Making someone believe they are in the matrix is to make them question their perception of reality. Making someone question their perception of reality is gaslighting.
I know, I've seen The Matrix twice, and you're still using "gaslighting" wrong.
The definition you found is frustrating because it's too vague and easily misinterpretable. If you look at any full explanation you'll see that the "makes them question their perception of reality" in your definition means it like "undermines their perception of reality".
The way you and the other guy used it is like when mentally healthy people say they have "OCD". It's a watered down buzzword version of a term that's actually useful for understanding life issues when you actually understand what it means.
When I was about 8 years old my aunt told me she returned a belt to the store because the buckle wouldn't fit through the belt loops in her pants. I'll never forget the look on her face when I told her to put it through the other end first.
Bested by an 8 year-old. What utter humiliation.
My wife started a new job a few years ago, and during training she was shown how to create invoices.
She was completely dumbfounded.
I'm a professor and require students to submit typed homework as either docx or pdf format - a student wrote their paper in Word, took a screenshot of it (including their desktop), then saved the screenshot in pdf format.
It was probably cuz you can't run plagiarism checks on it.
Yeah I know that one but in this case it was pretty clear it wasn’t plagiarized.
That bad eh
Ocr is a thing, not that hard to get the text back.
Please tell me that you at least showed the student that you can save a word doc as a pdf.
I wouldn't be surprised someone else wrote it.
I’ve seen pdfs with just a photo of a monitor showing an error message.
I've had support tickets with screenshots pasted inside a power point presentation
I wouldn't equate that to not realising you can let the shower warm up. Not even close.
The programmer in me died when I read #3
The compiler in me died when I read #4
Don't correct the trainer and reap the benefits, I guess... ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Here's your arm: \
Ah thanks, I was looking for it everywhere!
The best thing about Excel is the look of hatred you get when using ctrl+; in front of someone who's been manually entering the date through their entire career.
Ugh.
At least my Excel efficiency just increased.
As an engineer, I hate the way excel handle dates
I didn’t realize I could dry off with a towel while still standing in the bathtub/shower until I was 26. Now my bathroom floor doesn’t get wet on a daily basis.
The perfect bathmat is one of those brown fibre door mats, the kind people also use to get their car out of the snow. Always feels dry, never slips, and lasts for years.
They're so pokey, though!
Preal men like scratchy mats. Puts hair on your feet.
I hate when I get hair on my feet
Rub on mat vigorously
No more mat!
No more feet
Or just one that's more of a rug than a small towel.
Huh, I tried so many of those over the years and always hated the way they feel. Then a few years back, I discovered mats that are more like towels you can throw on the ground but thicker. So much better. The clincher was that I never knew how to clean the mats, but the towel- like ones can go in the wash whenever towels are cleaned
If you put a duck board on the floor then you can put any towel you like on top of it as your mat.
I’m one of the crew that mostly dries off in the shower where water can drain, and I dry each foot as I step out. There’s no need to handle more water.
I’ve used duck boards in outside showers, so I am familiar with them, but I’m not seeing a need inside, especially where we dry off before stepping out of the shower
You can wash a small rug just fine. But the dryer on high heat may damage the backing, so use low heat.
Moss is superior because it feels great on the feet and the water falling off you is a feature instead of a problem.
That's what bath mats are for..
Ok, but why not leave all the water in the spot that actually has a drain for it?
I believe wet bathrooms have a drain in the middle of the bathroom. This is the way we should build all bathrooms.
Bathrooms should have a floor drain regardless of whether they are of the wet variety. I personally hate the concept of a wet bathroom and the behaviour it encourages. Stuff gets wet that shouldn't, it just makes everything harder and expands the scope of cleaning while compromising "dry" tasks after someone else has used the shower if they partake in the undisciplined behaviour the design encourages. Also not a fan of all the functions being in one room.
I might be using the term wet bathroom wrong, I just mean the floor should have a drain (and be able to get wet obviously).
I do both. You don’t want to step on a cold floor either.
Because your towel will get wet when drying your feet and such.
No you don't touch the towel to the shower floor, you do everything but that. Then you step into the mat mostly dry, not cold, not making a mess to finish.
...lift up your feet.
No, they are for the last drops missed while toweling in the shower
After you've skimmed the water off, then towel dried inside the shower, the bathmat barely needs to get wet, especially if you step onto your towel when getting out.
That’s why I use ham
So, one day I'm hanging out with my friend, and he introduces me to his friend. Middle-aged guy, seems pretty nice, but he's having a shit day. Why? Because he had to copy something from an email, and he spent about an hour, flipping back and forth between two windows, copying the email into a Word document or something. I was dumbfounded, and I said "Why didn't you just copy-paste?" The guy stalks off with his head down, muttering under his breath.
My boss will purposely screen shot text he writes so I have to rewrite it and not copy paste… not fun.
You need an OCR tool.
Or a new job with a boss that's not a wanker.
Or an iPhone with access to the email. Probably a feature on Android too, idk, I’ve been away from modern Android for ~3 years.
Lots of times I’ve realized it’s easier just to take a screenshot (or even a photo of someone else’s phone…did that tonight when my wife was getting a weird error in Netflix) and then copy the text (or just go right to search from the selection).
Google Lens can do OCR since a few years ago I believe
I know everyone complains about Microsoft AI but you can just screenshot text and have it tell you what the text says.
Now you can use text capture to copy the text from a photo
Text capture saves hours and hours
I use Microsoft PowerToys for that and dozens of other QOL life hacks.
I'm pretty sure that requires admin access to enable though.
That's when you just screen shot it again and paste the image in where you need it.
I was about 25 years old before I realized I could use warm water to wash my hands in the winter. I'm usually considered a very intelligent individual, but for some reason this never occurred to me. Maybe it's because I grew up poor and we tried to use as little hot water as possible, or maybe I'm just not as smart as people think I am.
The tree of knowledge is enormous. We’re all bound to miss a thing or two. Most people might not ever come across a situation where they are missing that knowledge or they live their whole lives not realizing. Fuck I wonder how many things I haven’t realized yet?
Just asking that puts you miles ahead of most people in this thread.
Almost everything I do I try to think of a better way of doing it. All of these things people are saying just seem so thoughtless to me, because ... well, they are thoughtless.
If people would think about what they're doing they'd come to these realizations much, much sooner.
Thank you, SuckMyWang for your input, really insightful
really, though, I'd argue the tree of knowledge is not enormous, but infinite
isn't there a saying like: "The more you know, the less you know"?
I always wash with cold water, but that's just because I'm impatient. Unless I'm about to get intimate with my SO, then my hands gotta be warm.
Y'all do know warm water cleans better than cold, no matter the weather, right?
That's what soap is for. And for a quick 10-20s hand wash, I doubt the temperature matters much. If I was about to do surgery or something, I'd use as hot of water I could tolerate, but if I'm just washing after taking a piss, yeah, not a big deal.
Not really, it just washes the soap off faster.
I think it’s a little more nuanced. If it wasn’t a problem for you then I see no reason to question your intelligence, if it was a big problem and you didn’t see the obvious solution, then I’d be willing to agree with your reasons
Yup, I wash my hands with cold water because waiting for the water to heat up takes as much time as actually washing my hands. I can handle 10-20s or whatever of cold water, but waiting 10s just feels wasteful for a quick hand wash.
Right, I was going to add exactly this. Who has the patience to wait for hot water
Counter point, most of us don't live in buildings so poorly built that our water takes more than 1-2 seconds to come out hot...
Reminds me of the guy that spent his entire life sitting on the toilet with the seat up because he was told "girls use it with the seat down and boys have the seat up".
It wasn't until he got comfortable enough with his partner that when she saw him and asked why he wasn't sitting on the seat did it even occur to him that he could.
These people must not have parents 🤯
Or they have terrible parents.
Unless it's your kink, most people don't use the toilet in front of their spouse.
Edit: It sounds like a lot of straight people expel waste in front of their partners.
That doesn't match my personal experience at all.
Using the toilet with each other present has been a thing in every relationship I've been in. And no, at no point was that a kink of either one of us.
Same. I know of no couple in my circle where using the toilet in each others presence is anything else but just plain normal. They all do it.
Edited for clarification, because words = hard
so everyone always locks the door? even if one person needs something from the washroom they would always wait till the other person finishes?
I'm an idiot. I meant the exact opposite and have edited the sentence to make it clear.
Every single couple I know uses the toilet in front of each other.
Why?
Why not?
Yes.
Yes, unless it's something small that the toilet user can slip under the door
Yes.
My kid would never tolerate the indignity of waiting until after I was done shitting to tell me a barely parseable half remembered factoid
My wife and I respect each other's bathroom privacy because it's simply something we don't care to see, although she-like nearly all females I know- doesnt know how a door works and can't close it. We now live in a place where we have separate bathrooms, and it's awesome.
That's the exact opposite as my experience.
I am gay and from Canada and I assume you are straight and from Germany?
Maybe it's a regional thing, or a gay vs straight thing?
Canadian here. It's not regional. My wife and I use the bathroom while the other is present all the time.
I am straight, though, so I can't comment on that theory.
That's because your bath and toilet are in the same room. They should be separate.
I was in your team before having kids. It has been a drastic change I had to adapt to :(
An acquaintance was always complaining about how cold the water was when washing dishes. He had never thought to turn on the hot water.
He and his wife were conservative talk show hosts in Indiana, specializing in talking about how stupid liberals are.
Growing up we had a walk in shower, the way it was setup there was no way to reach in and not get hit by cold water. Especially a short kid with short arms, you were getting a full blast cold water trying to go "out" of the shower. The tap was the push-pull type and very difficult to modulate so limiting to low pressure trickle was basically a game of russian roulette. The best I could do was hug the wall and let it only get whatever corner of my body I wanted to sacrifice to temporary hypothermia that morning.
some people have posted photos of showers in modern upscale hotels, walk-in showers that have a hole through the glass for you to stand safe & warm & dry outside, reach through the hole from the outside to turn on the water.
This just seems like the wrong way around... Surely it's better to build the shower so the water doesn't go near the tap? Just have the tap off to the side?
Imagine having a sink where the tap was directly underneath the spout.
Putting the tap opposite the shower head could also work. The plumbing would be kind of wonky, though.
That's an understatement. It would be such a huge pain the ass to plumb that.
Yeah that was definitely a take that forgets that valves are still a mechanical system and the knobs are where they are cause they open and close the flow of water there. I guess you could do electrical systems now but.... That's probably a bad idea for so many reasons.
Yes, the plumber would have to put a few extra bends in the pipe, drill through a couple more studs. I don't see that as being a big deal. It's a pretty common thing to see taps that are not directly in line with the shower head.
My friends house had a little spout near the floor in his stand up shower, so you could run the water and test the temperature with your toe. When it was good you pulled the stopper like in a bath and it came out of the shower head.
And all the cold water that has been sitting in the shower pipes since the last shower comes out, pushed by the warm water behind it.
My aunt and uncle had a walk in where the controls were by the door instead of under the shower head. I always thought that was brilliant.
This would honestly be a reasonable enough excuse on why the OP was set in his ways from something like this. Once you're conditioned to something it takes a hold on you. How often does a person really question a habit they learned at a really early age?
Design > function
An alternative solve is to get a handheld shower head so you can point it away from you while it heats up.
Oh yeah, this was the solution later on. For like kid me? At the time I didn't know you could even replace the showerhead... :(
My previous place heated up very slowly, so I started saving the cold water in a bucket to water my plants because it felt like a waste
Where did the
sofasoda go?One time I took a pot roast out of the oven and set it on the stove. I turned around to grab something and looked back and thought, no, that needs to be scooted up a bit, and proceeded to grab the handle of the pan that had been out of the oven for all of 4 seconds with my bare hand.
That hurt.
I've done that with a cast iron. I had to go to the hospital. Same exact thing.
Use mitt. Put on stove. Take off mitt.
3 seconds later,Need to adjust, forget mitt.
Grab handle fully. Palm, thumb, fingers. Aghhhhhh
Cry a little bit. Soak in water pitcher.
Drive to hospital with hand in pitcher.
So I just always turn the oven mitt around after I set it on the stove and put it over the handle as a reminder that it's hot
I have burned myself in so many random ways around the kitchen, but this is a nice visual reminder to everyone who might not know that this pan is probably pretty hot still
Right but apparently the surface of my brain is as smooth as the cooking surface of my cast iron.
I probably should have gone to urgent care.
I did not. I put some creme on it, screamed, and held on to cold sodas all night
Well I got some painkillers, and luckily don't have addiction issues so they really helped
Soda?
Autocorrect got me
Oh my god I have to watch this tonight
I remember in first or second grade when I realized that, when I made a mistake, I didn't have to erase the whole word and I could just erase the part I messed up.
I can't do that. If I mess a word up the whole thing is dead.
Same for passwords. If I feel I missed a key, in deleting the whole thing and starting it over
Oooh, the password thing totally gets me. Usually I have to start over because I don't know where I messed up. I type them in too damn fast and by the time the little brain part that's monitoring things says, "Hey, that one key was wrong," I'm ten characters beyond and wasn't counting anyway, so I have to start over.
Yeah I might be a weirdo. I count the dots to where I was still comfortable assuming the password was correct until, delete to there, and finish the password again and pretty much always works.
Yeah, my hands on a keyboard can't spell words, they just muscle-memory them. One spelling error and I have to erase amd rewrite the entire word.
I’m sorry what?
Yeah you should try it next time, it's a game changer.
I used to have these small faux pas lead to tension and eventually the loss of relationships.
One day I was complaining to my zen teacher about one of these instances and he suggested I apologize for it.
He said “That’s called ‘make mistake, correct mistake’” (I think he made up the saying on the spot for me).
Now some twelve years later I’m still reminding myself that I can just correct my mistakes.
Thankful not to be a medieval monk and having to throw away the whole page / scroll when you make a mistake
A friend of mine told me a story once about an intern that was tasked with writing a text. She delivered one page of text and was told to write more. She asked how. She didn't know that you could write more than one page in Word.
What year was this?
No, I could se this... Fill up a full page and then it jumps to the next, blank page. If she can't see that the first page exists, she may have thought she just erased all her work by typing one too many keys.
Source: I work in IT and pretty sure I've seen exactly this. Lot's of flavors to the human experience, lemetellyou.
Oh, way into the 2000s.
So, like, 2024? That's how far they go as of now
Hm, maybe 2010 or so?
Even if that was the case was she too stupid to think of starting a new document?
Someone on Reddit once said they didn't realize the white part of your finger nails are where it's unconnected to your skin, and they'd just clip wherever, and often bleed because they'd clip the skin.
Nah, I almost spit out my coffee
This sounds like when that podcast dude realised you shit directly in the toilet and not in your hand first
https://youtu.be/xZ-SlTaCFfQ
Wat?
Amazing. People are amazing.
I lived in a place I had to do the opposite. The heater was broken, but the tank was outside exposed to the sun. So to get as warm water as I could, I had to go in right away and get the best of it.
I have allergy meds on me at all times, because sometimes I break out in hives for no reason.
One day, I'm sneezing like crazy from seasonal allergies, and my coworker asked if I tried any medicine. I suddenly realized allergy medicine works for allergies
I punched shower sock boy into Duckduckgo and don't see much. Help?
Mom never heard of college shower flipflops.
Thank you. I figured it was old Reddit lore.
You punched Shower Sock Boy? Hasn't he been through enough?
I always wash my flip flops in the cold water while waiting for it to warm up. There's probably something productive that everyone can do with the cold water.
Has anyone here ever taken a cold shower on purpose? It's quite invigorating once one acclimate.
Not an entire shower, but I sometimes end with a cooler second rinse.
I go hot for the muscles, pores, and lungs. At the end I wind it down to freezing or as close as I can get, a bit at a time. Typically ends in some kind of barbarian spiritual catharsis involving grunting. Then I picture polar bear club and want to die.
I like to do the same and put myself face first into the cold ass water and act like I'm some wild man standing under a freezing waterfall and gasping for breath.
Try it sometime.
Just close your mouth dude you don’t have to inhale the water
ITS PART OF THE EXPERIENCE
Exactly! I recently installed a double showerhead, so now when I look straight up, it's immersive and horrible! I start taking meditation breaths right before ratcheting the temp down.
I live in a tropical area, so baths and showers are always in cold water. Hot water is for small children and the sick or elderly.
This is apparently a huge culture shock to people coming from the colder parts of my country.
Everyday on the southern hemisphere, minus in winter.
It has some nice health benefits. Tricks your body into suvival mode.
I have easier ways to provoke a fight or flight response from my brain, such as receiving a phone call from an unknown number, or having to schedule an appointment in advance
Surprise: it's an unknown charge on your credit card. You'll have to call support and get a new card issued! Oooooo
Jokes on you, I can disable the old card and order the new one though the mobile app now! Which happened at least once already. Welcome to the future, where we automate away the human contact and I'm all for it
The app needs to update and forgot your stored credentials oooooooooooO
Fortunately, this one is self induced.
Cool thing is you can train your flight or fight response with things like cold plunges to be more useful. Cold showers might be a way to reduce your unneeded response to harmless things like phone calls.
Only time I intentionally took a cold shower was after a long bike ride, wearing formal clothing, in the middle of summer. It was freeing and very cold.
Why the formal clothing?
Didn't that make it hard to shower?
Formal clothing can shrink in hot showers.
Sure, on some Arizona summer days.
Cold shower after workout is great for preventing muscle soreness.
The trick is to start at the end of your limbs and move slowly inward until you think you had enough, and definitely not so fast you start to pant: The calmer you are, giving time for the body to switch to the change, the more you'll be able to take, so take it slow. Also don't feel obliged to use only the cold tap, especially in winter that can be rather extreme. Just up to elbows and knees more often than not get you that nice metabolism boost and that's a perfect pre-coffee, OTOH some days are torso days and even others are head days.
Nah, just go all in for maximum impact. Bonus: showers take like 2 min.
OTOH?
My version of this was renter's insurance. I knew about home owners insurance, but somehow I assumed that in the case of an apartment the owner would already have insurance. When my oven caught fire I learned that I'd be responsible for it. I don't recall too much of the initial rental process as that was years ago, so I don't know if it were somewhere in the paperwork but I never recalled even being asked about it.
Renters insurance isn't that expensive and worth having. If you rent and the place burns down, none of your stuff is covered by the landlord's insurance. Pretty sure you also can get personal liability coverage in case you get sued.
I never bothered with renter's insurance. I never had very valuable stuff, and certainly nothing I couldn't afford to replace.
That was probably stupid, but I own now so I guess I got away with it.
Oooh, this one's even trickier these days because some/rental companies will provide their own rental insurance as part of the lease, and give you no option but to pay for it, citing some obscure law or whatever. The trick though, is that rental insurance doesn't cover you, the rentee, but you don't know that unless you wade through the legalese yourself. Then they try to convince you that you don't need any other renters insurance, because you're already covered, which is of course a bold faced lie.
I always knew I could let the shower warm up but it seemed wasteful and I found the cold invigorating so I did it that way until about 40. Something shifted and it was unpleasant instead of invigorating. Signs of getting old I guess.
Not getting old as much as deciding that maybe it’s ok to let yourself enjoy things rather than be strict abt them. For me I was changing a lightbulb and decided that I was done standing dangerously on office chairs so I bought a nice collapsible step ladder.
I used to enjoy the invigorating cold when I was younger. Then I stopped enjoying it.
Congrats on the ladder though
It took me several years to realize that Canadians were from Canada. Specifically, I didn't connect the spoken words. I was fine with the written words.
I had commented in that thread on reddit. What really blew my mind was that he wasn't even the only one.
When I was 30 I learned that I had pronounced and spelled the German word "unbedingt" wrong my entire life. I thought it was "umbedigt" as in "um jeden Preis". I thought all others spelled and pronounced it wrong or spoke more elaborate than I.
Just pretend you wrote it in Swiss German and you're good!
Gesamt oder gesammt? Kommt doch von Summe
Btw I also pronounce it umbedingt although I know better
Ah, don't worry. There are tons of those in the German language. Mine was "Firmament", I thought it was "Firnament". Yours is a bit worse ;)
Had an argument with my ex once (both speaking german as a third language) about the pronounciation of 'Umgebung', where she made it sound like "Um'g-bung" for some reason. Ended up asking a random train conductor to settle it.
Oom-gay-bung.
Germans are gay for the environment.
My hot water tank runs out quick so if I let it warm up it'll be cold by the time I get in.
I'm down to military showers, 8 minutes (heavy scrub independent of the time)
Is 8 minutes considered a fast shower?
Maybe if you have long hair lol. I'm way faster than 8 mins
It can be a poverty thing too.
If you struggle to pay normal bills, letting it warm up makes the bill higher. So grow up poor, and you find out lots of habits of yours exist to save less than a dollar a day.
Does water service not come with a base volume in most places? Where I am, we have a base service fee of $20/m and that includes like the first 2000 gallons, and I struggle to even hit that most months. Jumping in a cold shower wouldn't actually save me any money .
In the US, I've never seen that on any water bill in my life. It's just dollars per gallon here.
How closely have you looked at your bill? This has been the case in at least 3 different places in the US for me.
Not insanely closely to be honest.
Same here, lived in a few different states and usually never got out of the first “tier” pricing bracket (where this billing method was used), so my water bills were pretty much to the penny the same every month.
Yeah, we have a base amount of water here. 2 people never got over base, with 3 we sometimes go over and have to pay more.
You're also paying for your heater to heat that water. If you don't use as much hot water, your electricity/gas bill should be slightly lower.
I think it's a about heating the water and not the amount of water used
The Carlin version is armpits assholes crotch and teeth
https://youtu.be/CgxDdsiXf8U
Letting it warm up means waiting until the water coming out of the faucet/shower head is warm instead of cold.
There was a post with something similar but with the water pressure being too high in the shower. Like, what? Just don't open it all the way then?!
Depends on the tap
That does tend to be how you control the pressure yes
Im gonna be the AkShUalLy guy here and say this isnt always the case…. There are shower controls that turn on immediately to full pressure and then adjust for temp as you keep turning, no way to actually control the water pressure without just having fully cold water. These have been around forever…
I installed a newer Delta one in my house a few years ago (2021 or so). They now have a feature where the water temperature is always whatever you set it- no fluctuations of scalding water when someone flushes a toilet or random freezes if someone turns on hot water elsewhere in the house. Or even 2 showers/baths fighting for hot water at the same time. So it’s like an auto-adjusting thing that happens inside that requires max input pressure to work right. Of course, i always want max water pressure, so this was a win-win for me!
To note- this wasnt a crazy expensive, high-end model…it was basically what most of the single knob/lever shower controls are now.
Huh, I grew up with those and thought everyone had them, except somehow people we visited
Now decades later, my shower doesn’t have that function. However it doesn’t matter because there’s only one bathroom so you’re not likely to get pressure changes (I also thought it was normal to have 3 bathrooms)
Some shower taps don't let you control pressure at all; only temperature.
Mine is just a single knob you turn counterclockwise. The further you turn, the warmer the water. All the way clockwise = off.
Every fucking hotel shower in western Canada at least. Hate those taps.
Pretty much every shower I've used since my childhood bathroom tub shower with two knobs.
No, some showers you get on off and temperature.
I had a very cold shower once until I realized you had to open it all the way to get hot water (no separate hot and cold taps). What a bizarre design.
they actually sell these recirculating pumps to keep the hot water in the pipes
Pretty mild, though an ex struggled with a standing light for years. It had one of those skinny, turntable hatched poles that you twisted. This one was rather tough to turn to the point that your fingers would slip. I remember looking at her struggling with it one day and asked, "Do you have any rubber bands?"
Same thing. She stopped, stared at me, and got flustered, "I...can't believe I never thought of that...".
There’s a german insult about people who take warm showers
It’s like Reese and the monkfish.
https://youtu.be/B6zQ4E7iTWM?si=T0XZvPm-sBQcaUxb
You could save water Short Cold showering is healthy
I also don't do it :(
Like how people constantly fill the dishwasher in a way that nothing gets clean and dirty puddles form in the cups.
The major life protip is the people we met along the way. ;-)
this guy is just a Master's candidate, the PhDs need even more help
I'd be willing to pay the plumber to put in a couple extra hours and put in a couple more pipe bends, if it meant not getting splashed with cold water every day.
Cold showers warming up isn't an unpleasant experience, especially if you have a warm drink while it's warming or cold drink while it's hot.
Dribking in the shower?
I definitely wait for the shower to warm up... But hell yeah drinking in the shower is great. I bring my morning coffee with me quite often. And something I'll get done working on something outside and crack a nice cold beer and head in the house and have a shower to clean up, bring my beer with me!
Huh. See I prefer my coffee with just the coffee maker water in it.
I took enjoy morning coffee or a cold beer in the shower. Have you ever had a delicious smoothie in the shower? I don't know why but the most enjoyable shower drink I ever had was a cold smoothie while washing off after a trip to the beach