Trump’s alleged ‘sexual proclivities’ graphically detailed in new Epstein documents
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Remember when Trump raped a 13 year old girl and then settled out of court, then a few years later he said that people who settle out of court are obviously guilty?
Interesting. Is there a site that has all of his convictions and settlements listed? This would be great in reasoning why he shouldn't run for office if you have a link to all that.
This isn't exactly that, but helpful...
He's demonstrably the actual biggest loser in history, and he just got more loser-y folks... If any of you are starting to have your memories fade, here's a quick refresher to read this morning and then copy and send to your aunt karen in Missouri.
Do you have a list that omits speculation and personal opinion? Got anything with facts and sources listed?
That list feels like a classic Reddit comment, packed with smugness. No one is going to convince their “aunt Karen in Missouri” that Trump is bad using a Facebook-tier list like that.
To answer your question, PoppinKREAM on Reddit often posted detailed comments with sources. Sort by “Top” on his Reddit profile and his fifth comment (as of today) has a much better list.
FTFY
Yeah, I was hoping this place would be a little more accurate in discussion. But it's still the same circlejerk. "Orange man bad" gets all the upvotes, regardless if the comment is true or not.
lemmy.world is a big instance and a lot of the Redditors from the initial migration landed here. But the great thing about Lemmy & the Fediverse is that you don’t have to stick with only one instance. I personally have accounts on lemmy.ml (where I landed after the migration) and beehaw.org (I joined in the early days and fell in love with their community & philosophies). I usually just browse “All” through the Voyager app though, so I can see posts from instances across Lemmy.
Using Lemmy / the Fediverse requires a different mindset than Reddit and other monolith websites: you’re given a lot more power to choose how to engage with the community at large and the Reddit hive mind isn’t nearly as effective. There’s still going to be circlejerks and brigades and all kinds of shenanigans that come with forums, but don’t take the voting system too seriously and you’ll have a much better time.
What specifically is bothering you on the list, friend? Specific points.
There's only 11 Trump associates charged with serious crimes in the last 5 years?
First, I'm not your friend. It would be embarrassing to even be mistakenly associated with you. Second, the things wrong with the list are most of your points are just your opinion or things that have no proof or weight. But it is telling that in order to come up with a sizable list, you eat the need to include superfluous bullshit points. I mean, you really find the number of women he's had kids with troublesome? Or that he has inserts in his shoes. Nevermind the flat out lies in your list. For instance, can you name the multiple officers that were murdered on Jan 6?
It would be good to remove silly things like the lifts in his shoes. Removes credibility from the list for anyone not already against Trump.
With who? The deplorables that live for hate that we'll never persuade? Or us, who have earned a chuckle and his expense?
There is nobody on the fence reading this list. If they are, the jabs aren't going to be the deal breaker.
But this is moot. There are no actual independents. Just self aware ashamed in denial Republicans.
The only work is activating Democrat voters and convincing the left of us that Israel's regime sucks but not having democracy in America doesn't help any situation.
I really hate the "us vs them" bullshit, but it's real. I don't like many of the Democrat policies and am on the progressive side. They suck. But the other side is literal child raping treason Nazis. The fact that I'm saying that with no hyperbole in 2024 is so fucking wild. I wanted the star Trek future with a merit based economy and green alien babes... Not this bullshit.
While there are policies I can get behind, I am in no way considered liberal, progressive or whatever other terms are used. So do you think I am a "literal child raping treasonous Nazi"? If your answer is anything other than no, this is exactly why the country is in the shit and there will never be any actual progress.
If you are a republican, then yes. Because gestures broadly at the Republicans
AND A PARTRIDGE IN A PEARTREEEEEE!
Thought stealer!
And now to the tune of "12 Days of Christmas"
"on the 13th day of Christmas, I'm tired of singing!"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump
Everything Trump says has a little asterisk above it which is "*except when I do it" - except he probably doesn't know about asterisks. They're pretty complicated.
Sftu loser! He's got great asteriskses, the best in fact! Nobodies got asteriskses like him, in the world!
^(/s, but not really necessary I hope)
One time an asterisk came up to Trump, big asterisk, strong asterisk, tears streaming down its typeface and it said "Mr Trump, no president has ever been treated as poorly as you*".
Every accusation he makes is a confession. Always.
I've never read anything about that. Any links?
Here's the original complaint document, and a bit of googling will find old news articles with more information. This one was linked to Epstein.
Trumps links are the best links.
Lawsuits were filled against the buffoon and the pedo by the same individual, but ultimately they were dismissed or withdrawn. They were not settled, at least in no way that can be proven.
Now I'm not saying that the accusations were invented to negatively affect the buffoon's election chances, though that is a possibility. I find it unlikely as most sane individuals, especially with what was known at that time, would not risk a crime or being counter sued by filing a false claim. Not to mention licensed lawyers putting their own careers and repairs on the line.
We also know that the buffoon and his enablers and followers are not afraid to break the law or push its limits to make problems go away.
Anyway they're is also this
https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-do-papers-allege-trump-epstein-took-part-sexual-assault-1857863
The OP on this thread said he settled out of Court. Is that true? From everything I've read the cases were thrown out?
I have no evidence one way or the other. It looks like the California case was likely dismissed because what was being sued over occurred in New York. And the cases in New York were withdrawn, but why that occurred is unknown. There may have been a settlement out of court, but I can't find anything to prove that.
We have plenty of evidence at this point to speculate on what may have happened. Could there have been a settlement? Yes. Could the complainant have been intimidated into dropping the case? Yes. Could the complainant ultimately decide that her own health, safety, and well-being was more important? Absolutely.
These were all civil fillings seeking damages because the statute for criminal liability has passed. Pursuing a case like this as an individual is going to put her whole life under a microscope, force her to publicly relive the abuse, and open her up to cross examination by the defense. I think it is incredibly likely she walked away.
yeah... I'm not going to blame nobody for not wanting to read that article...
That's rare, a triple negative. So, who are you going to blame for not wanting to read the article?
you could parse it as the even less generous "I'm not gonna to blame anyone for wanting to read that article."
I mean, it's not nothing... Far from even.
How do you even... what the fuck did he do?
P.4
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4355835/1332/16/giuffre-v-maxwell/
And there’s the admission of definite Kompromat on everyone that ever had sex around Epstein.
Epstein knew where these tapes were hidden and was absolutely imho assassinated for that knowledge.
I don’t doubt there are tapes, but in this case the same woman already said she lied about the tapes.
She also maintained, "Jeffrey kept a trove of surveillance on every person who had ever visited his properties”.
It was kind of rhetorical. I don't actually want to know how he hurt a girl's nipples badly enough for it to be visible to someone else later on.
I took one for the team. Flicking and sucking until they were raw.
Not surprised. Still… there are things I just don’t need to know.
It's OK. When the Moral Majority elects him president for life, all the evidence and anyone who leaked it, will be conveniently erased.
lmao fuckin str8 m8
2020 - S05E08 - Don and Jeff’s Excellent Adventure
Graphic details about Donald Trump’s alleged “sexual proclivities” have emerged in the latest round of court documents containing details of late paedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s associates. The new documents contain “incendiary claims” about the former president, including accusations that he had sexual relations with “many girls”, made by one of Epstein’s alleged victims, Sarah Ransome. Mr Trump’s name has appeared a handful of times previously in the documents and, while not accusing him of wrongdoing, appears to illustrate the good relationship he had with the disgraced financier. In the newly unsealed documents, Ms Ransome testified that her unnamed friend “was one of the many girls that had sexual relations with Donald Trump” – including at Epstein’s New York townhouse. - TV-MA, 61 mins
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Mmh I'm pretty sure having sex with many girls will just be seen as a cool thing for the kind of people who vote for him.
I would clarify that the victims were trafficked and often children, but his supporters are notorious for cherry-picking, and their favorite book (allegedly) is full of that and more, anyhow. So, yeah, you're probably right. 🤦🏽♂️
This is the part, the loophole, where the allegations will fall apart with them.
Mini* girls.
FTFY.
It's in the Bibles....and Jesus! He screwed her! And then Jesus said...oh c'mon Trump!... something like that.
Are we surprised?
Not really, it's been well known he's fucked kids for almost 30 years.
But how much weight dos the word of another dead pedo actually have?
That's why he's dead in the first place
They're documents that have been filed in court. Not the words of a dead pedo.
Surprised? We've already had corroborating depositions for years that he violently raped preteens at Epstein's.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/05/alan-dershowitz-devils-advocate
Her name is Ransome and she lies about celebrities?
The writing has been utterly awful these past few seasons.
I mean look how he died himself. She wasn’t far off-base I think.
they're demonstrating again that nobody actually cares about this sort of thing
Speak for yourself
If I was in a room with Trump and a hammer...
They mean anybody that supports the guy isn't going to care about this. It's why people like him accuse his opponents of something he's guilty of doing so that when his scandal comes out, people think it's either old news or "a Dem witch hunt"
The men who support him also support this behavior. It's part of why they support him.
You'd fuck the hammer twice.. wait, that's not it..
Back to running headlines that talk about how he smells like old cheese I guess. Sigh, what even are we supposed to do.
Probably start actual fake news about him supporting progressive policies? Either his fan base would start to hate him or maybe we'd finally get some progressive policies passed
Now, let's tie him to Epstein's "suicide"...
I think if he got charged with murder, I might just dissolve into a puddle of happiness.
Trump back then didn't have the necessary influence to have somebody murdered.
He was the sitting President of the United States, who had total control of the US Department of Justice, when Epstein died in federal custody under the DOJ.
I would say he absolutely had the necessary influence.
Yeah well we already heard what his lawyers would say, He is allowed to assasinate people against him unless congress says it was naughty. You know.. those people he would just have killed before their votes were finalized.
He had like a bajillion dollars and connections to everyone. You don't need gov connections to have access to a hitman, they come to you when you're that big of a deal... probably. Idk wtf I'm talking about though.
I can only afford a "light tap in the back of the head" man. But I'm saving it for when I'm retired.
Meidas Touch found and produced a contemporaneous news article a few days back that Trump was "dating" one of Epstein's victims, Anouska De Georgiou in 1997. Seems more than a small coincidence.
What are you alleging? I'm not groking
What I'm alleging is it seems more than a slight coincidence that Trump hooks up with one of Epstein's victims. That it seems like the sort of thing that journalists and investigative reporters should be taking a look at for obvious reasons. Like when did she first meet Trump, who introduced her, was she working for a "modelling agency", when and where she met Trump, how she was present at these events, who paid for her accommodation / lifestyle etc.
Still a lot of so called Christians out there say he's God man with a straight face....
those people are sinners dude
We are all sinners, my dude.
Sin is a false concept, my dude.
That may or may not be, but according to the book, everyone is a sinner.
What about the pee?
If something like that happened he was probably tricked into being filmed cheering on hookers defiling a bed the Obamas slept in. Very common KGB tactic to hire hookers to lead on powerful people until they do something they don't want public. Doubt he actually has a pee fetish.
There's a lot more evidence he wanted to or actually did have sex with underage girls.
And his daughter, if you listen to his words or Stormy Daniels.
Err with his daughter or did his daughter go to the island too? Both are fucked up though.
He wants to have sex with his daughter. He had Stormy smack his ass with that copy of Forbes with himself and Ivanka (and Eric) on the cover.
And here are just a sampling of quotes, of which all are Trump but the last one.
Edit - on mobile and cut/pasted only part of quote #3
I mean, that's a CIA tactic too, at least if we learn anything from history
¿Por que no los dos?
Spoiler: the P just stands for Pedo
I came for the pee (heh) and goddamit i want to read about the pee
Will anything happen to trumpy boy ? I doubt it. The rich and powerful can get away will anything. crying in middle class
I don't care if he likes to be peed on or whatever, but seriously try to imagine saying this to someone
Epstein was a state sponsored monster to get blackmail on other world leaders. Now that Epstein's handlers [read: Israel] need a Biden victory to continue genocide and ensure white supremacy in the Middle East I suppose they will now selectively release names off Epstein's "friend list".
Or Trump's just a sexual predator - which is something we all already know as he has basically outright admitted he commits sexual assault, he's been convicted of rape, has made numerous public sexually inappropriate comments about underaged girls (including both his 16 and 1 yo daughters) - and this is just further confirms it.
That was my entire gripe with this. We always knew Trump and Epstein were friends. All of a sudden only SOME of the blackmail Epstein has gets released as a report which conveniently aids the people who sicked Epstein on the world. How is everyone not suspicious?
They were released along with tons of other documents that have been embarrassing for other powerful people as well. Something I've heard people screaming about for ages online to happen.
And now that it happens. . .it's suspicious because it confirms what we already knew what to be true?
I'm really confused by this line of reasoning.
It's suspicious when it only helps Eipstein's handlers when they need to influence the next election. They could have relased this years ago.
I hate Trump but I want objective justice; This is just selectively picking a few for political insurance.
This is far from the optimal time to release this is you're trying to hurt trumps chance of winning the wh. Additionally, trump is a huge supporter of Israel, he even moved our embassy to Jerusalem to show it despite the diplomatic fall out of doing so. There's no reason to believe he wouldn't be doing the same exact thing as Biden.
Trump is the elite scum we all hate, not separate from it.
Trump is an idiot who lacks any type of grace or nuance. He would escalate the situation and the US and Israel would have to deal with more uproar versus their current way of getting rid of natives in batches.
Yeah, If you think Israel prefers Biden over Trump (you know, the guy who thought it was a spectacular idea to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem) you're really not following geopolitics - at all. But you keep rubbing those braincells together buddy!
I don't even understand your flavor of racist tin hat. Are you blaming Jews or suggesting they're victims of a Nazi plot?
Blaming the "current US administration"-Israel alliance, yes. I made no mention of Nazis.
Don't feign ignorance. We all know who Epstein worked for.
I do not hate Jews nor do I see them as a single collective. Jews are unique and diverse peoples.
we don't
No I don't know who he worked for and I feign nothing. Afaik it's simple. He's a kid raper. He sells kids for raping to other wealthy monsters across the political spectrum. Now he's not here to suffer for it with dicks in every hole in prison bc he's a lucky wealthy prick with a lot of wealthy pricks to expose.
Please speak directly. I don't live in your circles and have no idea what you're talking about. I'm open minded and will give anyone a chance to convince me of anything. So what is this about?
The claim was from a former Israeli government employee:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/epstein-case-sheds-light-on-dark-secrets-of-influential-figures/3103146
https://www.timesofisrael.com/woman-says-epstein-forced-her-to-have-sex-with-former-pm-barak/
Trump is more pro-israel than biden is, the fuck are you talking about
Lemme guess, you're a trump supporter and all this is true because you support Trump and obviously trump can never do wrong!
How close am I?
I like Bernie Sanders... Are you always so off?