Forget all that story of different salutes and making fun of elon by saying that he is making the american "nazi salute"

Lets call a spade a spade.

Elon is doing the nazi salute and there is no other way to take it other than being serious.

That fucker must get down from power.

PS: I removed my previous snarky comment about bellamy salute and made this new one because it is a serious business

In this thread:

A lot of men who didn't read the article and didn't got the satirical part of the act.

And given the last political polemic, I'm pretty sure these "men" are misrepresenting the article on purpose.

You got me for a second there.

I thought you would make a "the onion" joke of florida plan's to send cancer patient to work the fields as a "treatment" for cancer.

I'm surprised (and kinda of relieved?) that your comment is actually about a new scientific discovery.

There is an obvious reason why countries like Germany make a strong stance against any "trolling" nazi joke/imagery/salute.

But America's First Amendment seems to not understand that reason (or only understand when it is weaponized against communism, black people, trans rights and all the "woke culture" stuff)

At this point, I think we should invite back hexbear tankies to roll over the conservatives and "centrist" in .world

I'm half joking, but there may be some truth in that.

as you can read on al jazeera, not only Elon did something that clearly resembles the nazi salute but he also has ties with the nazi party.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/elon-musk-at-trumps-inauguration-whats-the-history-of-the-nazi-salute

There is no excuse or funny remark to be made about it AND there is nothing to defend Elon about it. THIS SHIT MUST BE CALLED OUT!

Also, being "anti-woke" is a dog whistle for nazis and we know that Elon claim to be anti-woke, anti-trans and anti-lgbt.

Also, for all the anti-wokes: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE ABOUT THE PRIVATE SEX LIFE OF OTHERS INSTEAD OF MINDING YOUR OWN BUSINESS FOR FUCKS SAKE????

But I think you still would have to pay him if you want him playng BF6.

I can't speak with 100% accuracy. I just have something that tells me so.

As someone said on reddit they don't want a safe space for them.

what they want is to be enabled to shit on everyone else's food and smirk at us while we try to separate their shit from our beans.

It is a power dynamic where they want to force their shit upon us.

they already have their safe space on r/conservative where they go to circle jerk around "the left is bad".

They do get tired from that and there is no new "left is bad" if the entire political spectrum was composed of them.

Far right and conservative hate is a self cannibalizing movement.

Even if they killed all gay, black, hispanic, asian, autistic, disabled and any sort of "the other", then, they would need to find new "others" to start to hate and kill. Their fight is always inward, against the enemy within.

They will proceed to kill white people because either they are not white enough or that they are too white ("ginger" people which should've be considered the "correct type of white" if racism ever made any sense since they are paler than almost any other ethnicity).

So, they need an existing enemy and a platform that enables them to shit on us.

If they ever come to lemmy, the correct path is to ban as soon as they shou their true colors and start to throw shit around.

It only requires a few probing question to know if someone is in good or bad faith.

When the comment goes into 5 or more replies, it is almost always for sure that the conservative answering is in bad faith (only exception is if they clearly show that they are learning something with the discussion and adapting their viewpoints with each new comment)

old timers (or geeks) help me:

Didn't Rogue (which termed the genre Rogue-like) had a "monster capturing" mechanics? I know that Nethack has a pet system (you even start out with a cat or dog that follow, fight and even steal items for you).

Also, what about older text based games similar to Zork? any of them with monter capturing/battle system?

My point is that if we dig deep, we may discover "monster capturing" (or pet) mechanics way earlier than what most people think about what is considered the beginning of videogames (fliperama era games like NES, MegaDrive, Sega....)

Maybe because of this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change

No need to read the entire article. Just skim through it a bit.

Btw, I can attest that the 1964 regime change in Brazil was real because I live here and we study the military dictatorship period in middle/high school and the theme is still relevant to this day (hence why we jailed Bolsonaro). (Edit: I forgot to mention that the reveal that 1964 had a hand from operation condor is recent. it was just a "leftist hoax" before but, "today", the papers of US involvement in Brazil's coup made the "leftist hoax" not be a hoax anymore)

We will need to wait a a few more decades before going public that US also interfered with our politics on the impeachment of Dilma and raise of Bolsonaro to power.

But at least Obama government bugging Dilma's phone was true

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/7/5/us-spied-on-brazilian-president-and-top-officials

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/246869-wikileaks-nsa-spied-on-brazils-president/

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-25441408 (Angela Merkel was another target for spionage from NSA).

Also, did anyone ever mentioned that the only country who used nukes in wars up to this day was US? the country that bombed 2 civilians cities for "research purposes"?

If Russia and France didn't got their bombs in time, I can almost assure you that history would be different a lot of other countries would receive radioactive democracy blessings from US intead of the "boring" democracy US employs in the world nowadays.

to piss both audiences here:

Emacs in graphical mode

It is pretty funny as someone from a (supposed) "third world shithole" hearing these guys hurling these insults at the US while my country is trying the best to improve our lives and get out of the US stranglehold.

Also funny is seeing Europe slowly realize that they are "vassal states" of the US.

Maybe one day they will be really aware that most of their wealth came from exploiting the so called "third world" but, sadly, I think these guys will need to fall from the horses before realizing it.

I now regretting making the previous comment.

I made the previous comment in a jesting tone like "same... but different... but still the same"

Also, I went into a rabbit hole seraching for variations of nazi salute (because I know from history that brasil integralist movement had their own version of roman salute called anauê) and found about the bellamy salute.

Seeing that the nazis are actually using the "roman salute" as an actual excuse, I'll take back what I said.

He is doing the nazi salute. Period.

Dios! Gott! Kami!

but can't say Allah... go figures....

You're not wrong, but you forgot that the in-group always shrink.

Also, it is usual for fascists to throw others "under the bus" as a way to save their own face.

For me it is biting and chewing the skin around.

When it bleeds I also drink the blood.

Yes, I'm a vampiric who selfcanibalizes myself.

One day I will evolve to Ouroboros

There are a few misconceptions in your comment:

While I do agree that there are other problems like racism and bigotry which existed before capitalism (based on an answer you gave in another comment) and while I do agree these also need to be addressed, I do disagree that capitalism isn't a major source of problems of modernity.

Why?

Because the cornerstone of capitalism is to use money to generate more money in a feedback loop towards (nonexistent) "infinite money" (which is different from feudalism, roman empire or ancient Egypt which all had some sort of market without being capitalist economies).

SInce it is impossible to make infinity money, an inherent part of capitalism are the crises cycles of boom and bust.

It also makes the creation of services as an afterthought (because making money is more important) and it is also tied to the enshitfication we're seeing today.

I think you're calling as "capitalism" a thing that is actually "technological innovation (under capitalism)"

We're all aware of free/open source softwares

We're all aware that it is possible to develop technological innovation outside of capitalist framework (and again: Capitalism = Using money to make more (infinite) money)

almost all of scientific researches advances are because of passion of the researches instead of the greed of capitalism.

Yes... Everyone "needs" money to survive. But I hope you do agree that nobody in the world needs billions of dollars to simply survive.

for God's sake, a lot of people living in "third world" dream of earning 300 dollars a month to survive and consider that making 1000 dollars a month is a small luxury (I'm from brasil and 1000 dollars is around R$ 4000 or R$ 5000 while most people lives with R$3000 or less)

What I'm saying is that, past the required money for surviving and for having a few "luxuries", there is no need for anyone having millions or billions of dollars every month and that it would be possible to keep scientific and technological grow under such conditions because curiosity and desire for changes are part of human nature.

if it was entirely impossible for humans to develop things without being paid before, then nothing around open/free software would exist.

Btw, I'd suggest to install deepseek (or any other model) locally so that you don't give your data for free to others (also for security reasons).

Take advantage that it is a free/open software and somewhat easy to install.

"I had no children. I haven’t transmitted the legacy of our misery to any creature"— Machado de Assis (1881)