Dear Lemmy, **why** Star Trek??
Every single large server in this federation has at least one Star Trek community. There is even an entire server dedicated to Star Trek.
Not only that, these communities are some of the most active I've ever seen. There is no other franchise I know of that dominates the federation as much as Star Trek does.
So, what's the correlation with Lemmy and Star Trek? Why not other sci-fi series? Please, are there any connections?? Is this all coincidental?
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Well there you have it.
FTFY
Federate the Dominion? Are you joking?
Apologies to his bat-eared grace Weyoun!
I see what you did there
I think it's nerds. /s
I think a lot of the lemmy userbase are at least somewhat techy (also see the Linux communities), and a lot of techy people like Star Trek.
Techies are Trekkies!
Eh, more like Trekkies are techies. I would consider myself somewhat of a techie, definitely nerdy, and very much into sci-fi, but I really don't give a shit about Star Trek. I've seen a lot of it, just because I've had a couple girlfriends that really enjoyed it, but otherwise I probably wouldn't have watched any after my childhood.
Now, if HBO were to do a hard R version, I'd probably get into it.
There's a fun documentary called How William Shatner Changed the World about all the scientists and inventors who have been inspired by Star Trek.
I wish that title was different. Bill doesn't need his ego stroked anymore.
It’s ok, whenever you get annoyed about his ego, just go watch the clip of Ole’ Bill trying to pontificate after his trip to space and Jeff Bezos cutting him off. The look on his face is so sad and frustrated.
Yeah, not the best, but still a really fun documentary.
I find star trek boring too, there’s a lot of far more interesting and exciting scifi out there so I really don’t get how it still has such a huge fan base still.
That said, if they start dropping the hard Rs in Star Trek I will definitely tune in to that catastrophe.
If it's hard Rs you want, just put on any episode where O'Brien is mad at the Cardassians
Star trek: in our universe racism is no more...
O'Brien: Damn Spoon heads!
Star Trek: Except Miles, he's the exception to the rule.
Not everything needs to be action or drama packed. It’s like a good documentary, the premise is usually very exciting. Kind of like a what if.
Star trek is a big plate of mashed potatoes. People eat because it isn't exciting.
Tech nerds are Trekkers!
I never really thought about it before, but it seems obvious now. Trekkies and open source tech folks would have a massive overlap, and Lemmy kind of exists perfectly within that intersection of utilitarian principles. So of course we would all find each other here.
I'm convinced that Trekkies and open source tech are concentric circles.
The Star Trek community has been going strong for nearly 60 years for a reason - Star Trek rocks.
When it started in the 60s (and continued especially strong with TNG in the 80s), it was unique in depicting a hopeful look at how things could be rather than a reflection of how things are, differing from how most shows do social commentary. It's refreshing.
Star Trek is attractive to people who want to see a world where people work together toward great things in a post-scarcity utopia, with current day conversations of race, nationality, sex, gender, etc. being so far in the rear-view mirror that they're non-issues. Plus cool technology. I think that appeals to the Lemmy crowd.
To me, Trek is a mash of three great communities, each nerdy in their own way:
This article scratches the surface of it.
Thank you for the article. I'll need to look more into this in the future.
I think you personally posting more than the other Lemmings combined might have something to do with it...
Well, you see, Lemmy is full of nerds and communists.
Workers of the worlds you mean?
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So others have already talked about how great Star Trek is. I agree with them, but I think that literally everyone has missed the point of your question:
https://startrek.website
It's its own lemmy instance. It was spawned from the migration away from reddit, and it's stayed alive since. So combine an active former-reddit community with lemmy and a good reason to all rally around, and finally the final ingredient of federation, and the Star Trek related rooms will always be on every server, and they'll always be populated.
Yeah, I think this is a big part of it. The Star Trek sub's total abandonment of Reddit and conversion to a standalone Lemmy instance during the Blackout was a big deal and a big driver of traffic in those days and beyond.
Star Trek is big in the Threadiverse for the same reason that Earth is big in the Federation. They were a massive force in the early days.
And it's a great example of how viable lemmy is as an alternative. Not sure about random subs, but any of the really nerdy ones could make the jump.
Both this and all other answers are good for different reasons. From what I'm reading, the beliefs and politics displayed within Star Trek are beyond progressive for the time it came out, while also shaping sci-fi. This creates a very committed fan base that when Reddit started acting up, they were able to move a large chunk of their user base away to Lemmy, since Lemmy is filled with similar-minded people.
When I left reddit because my favorite app rif was shutdown, that was the first instance that caught my eye. I love Star Trek.
Why is the show about gay space communism popular on the gay space communism network?
that's why
The French line at the bottom 😄
Soon we'll all be sorry.
Asking why Star Trek dominates the Federation? tsk tsk tsk
Like some kind of... Dominion?
Because Trek fans were the first to organize conventions. They started out small in the late 60s. Now every single weekend, somewhere on this planet, there's a Trek convention being held. The conventions also raise massive money for charity. They are the nerds other nerds want to be, in terms of organization. I'm here for the memes.
Sorry, but there were science fiction conventions before Star Trek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_World_Science_Fiction_Convention#:~:text=The%201st%20World%20Science%20Fiction%20Convention%20%28Worldcon%29%20was,%22%20NyCon%20I%20%22%20by%20Forrest%20J%20Ackerman.
You are right that Star Trek conventions were the first time a single show was the focus of a convention, and the Star Trek conventions lead to things like ComicCon.
I did not know that, thanks!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_World_Science_Fiction_Convention#:~:text=The%201st%20World%20Science%20Fiction%20Convention%20%28Worldcon%29%20was,%22%20NyCon%20I%20%22%20by%20Forrest%20J%20Ackerman.
Most of the internet was started with Star Trek boards. If I recall correctly, one of the first emails ever sent was about Star Trek
Also credited with the first widespread fanfics of a TV show, I believe.
I haven't thought of this in years but back in the '90s I participated in an email fantasy RPG where we all roleplayed Romulans. One person would write a chapter from their character's POV and email it to the group, then the next person does one, and so on, so the story unfolded in unexpected ways. It was actually pretty fun.
That sounds like such a an awesome early internet thing.
It was. And then of course this one guy asked me if I wanted to take it private so our characters could have their own little love subplot. And uh... I said yes.
Now THAT also sounds like early internet too...
Including the one that is the reason we call laughably stupid perfect characters Mary Sue.
Do you know of a wiki or link to this about trek boards and first email? Search engines now a days are getting on my nerves about not showing what I typed into it.
Wow, didn't know the roots were that deep...
Ah yes, the nostalgic leftist scifi show that defined generations is popular amongst the left leaning members of the nostalgia generation.
Nah. It's all that O'Brien poundcake.
I prefer the cellular peptide cake myself.
With mint frosting!
I was about to make a joke about Troi and the expected qualities of a cake, but I'll leave it at that.
Wait but which O'Brien? Miles? Or the clone Miles that was meant to infiltrate the peace talk? Or the Miles from 7 hours in the future that just replaced the present day Miles? There's just so many to choose from, it's so hard
Or mirror O'Brien that thinks nothing of kidnapping Jake Sisko even after Real Sisko saved his life on multiple occasions.
You answered your own question, brother.
Guess.
Thr "federation" you say? ;)
We may never have a good answer for why the gay nerdy communists love the colorful scifi communist space adventures
If you're trying to say the way ryker throws his leg over a chair is the cause of me becoming a communist programmer then I have to tell you that you are sorely accurate.
Most people like the concept of post-scarcity space socialism...
Who would've thought people don't want to work until they die on a dying planet, huh?
I swear if I stare at this I can see his eyebrows move.
The Lemmy community is disproportionately made up of either computer nerds or queer people.
Star Trek is basically the most popular nerd IP that hasn't been successfully brought into the mainstream, and is known for being progressive.
Wat?
For real. It's been at least top 3, and arguably top 2, for scifi my entire life.
Star Trek has been at the top for nearly 60 years. In the US at least, you can turn over a rock anywhere and find a Star Trek fan.
I get what they're saying.
Star Trek is still nerd niche compared to Star Wars or MCU.
Sure but what a way to use the word "mainstream"
I think it fits. Perhaps in Europe the fan base is less large. Star Wars, Harry Potter, and even Dune are what people around me are into. Though it's mainly (only) just Star Wars.
How do you define mainstream? Sure it has to vary with demographics etc. But if you ask any random person, "have you ever heard about Star Trek?" , you will get a yes for an answer in too many cases, even if they've never watched it. Show them images of the characters and they'll likely go "aahhh yes those". Compare that to something more obscure like "have you ever heard about Aeon Flux?" and you'll probably get weird looks even though there are comics, a movie and an animated series of it. Star Trek may not be as popular as other franchises, but it is mainstream imo.
Yeah, IDK. As a huge Trekkie, I’ve been nothing but pleased that Trek forced its way into the mainstream without changing its progressive this-is-for-everyone values.
im not a trek fan but i hear that a lot dont like how it became more action oriented than it should be. is that a true criticism?
Star Trek has always been more about diplomacy than violence.
It is a trek between the stars, not a war.
That said, it contains action, but it wasn't the main selling point.
Very much so, yes. That's what turned me off of Picard, for instance (and the whole "Earth is back to being a shithole after a single android attack" thing).
The very obvious subtext of every good Star Trek episode and plot is that just talking things through is a good way to solve most problems. Newer writers don't seem to have gotten the memo, and instead try to cram as much generic hollywood garbage as they can into the series.
That's only an issue with some of the new trek series, not the classic ones from last century. I'm not really concerned with paying attention to the new ones at all.
yes.
nuTrek (the Abrams movies) and Picard S1 were way more action than I was expecting and it made me like them a lot less than other properties. However, the vast majority of Trek is not action-oriented at all and is more about traditional science-fiction stories — providing an abstraction of real-world issues and approaching them through a philosophical lens with spaceships, alien races, and esoteric concepts as allegory.
I guess I mean this in a relative way.
I can talk about Star Wars and basically everyone I know has a lot of context. Most people have watched a good amount of it. Even people who are explicitly not nerds know about it. Same with most comic stuff.
Meanwhile Star Trek is still a lot more niche. People know the bare basics of what it is, but that's about it. With the exception of my SO, I've met a grand total of two people who watch it.
Also if someone knows a lot about Star Wars or Marvel they don't necessarily know a lot about other nerd IPs. Meanwhile the people who knew about Star Trek also knew about shit like Farscape, Dark Matter, and other IP that just gets confused looks from most people.
That was pretty true for a long time but it's changing as of the last decade or so
I fucking love Star Trek and have since I was a kid 20+ years ago
Guys guys, they're talking about us!
Because I want to see Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism happen in my lifetime.
Same reason Linux is popular on Lemmy. Lemmy is essentially an explicitly leftist community that appeals to people nerdy and techy enough to leave Reddit and join a smaller platform. Linux is a FOSS, ie leftist techy OS. Star Trek is leftist Sci-Fi.
Nerds, tech, and leftism all congregate on Lemmy.
there is also a lot of communities about programming and linux
there's only 1 common denominator here. we are all nerds
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Almost like it's some kind of federation...
United Federation of Poindexters
Star Trek (esp 90s Trek and esp TNG) is extremely formative for most Gen Xers and Millennials. It's unapologetically nerdy and has themes of tolerance and empathy, and establishes a utopian vision for the future that (to most people) is unfathomable. When we're not on Lemmy, we're talking about Trek with people in person.
Two words.
Fully automatic gay space communism.
It kicked ass 20 years ago. Now? Not so much.
If you think science fiction is laser fights in space, this opinion makes sense. If you like characters and setting, it's probably some of the best sci fi on TV.
I liked the stories and setting more back in the day. At the very least because I was a kid back then. I can not watch TNG now, so I have different standards now, which other variants also do not reach.
the thing is, most of the themes/story lines in star trek are about as timeless as the series. there are no 'dated' story lines (tropes, definitely) ... in fact many of the moral dilemmas discussed are absolutely still relevant today
200 years of evolution and we're still learning the same lesson 😤
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I want to disagree, but the reality is that most TV shows from the 90s and before have aged pretty poorly (certainly way worse than movies of the same age have). There are a few reasons for this, but I think the big three are: TV used to be lower budget and lower prestige (going from being a movie actor to a TV actor was shameful), TV had to be episodic due to the nature of broadcast (this improved once TiVo entered the scene, but it was streaming that really made multi-episode storytelling possible), TV episodes were extremely exact in their length (had to stick to the broadcast schedule, which sometimes caused major pacing problems).
Sci-fi TV especially seems to have aged terribly. Part of that is it used to be a niche genre that did not get the resources it needed to not come off at least a little campy, but I suspect the biggest issue is that of audience: shows like Star Trek or X-Files tried to have mass appeal in a way that TV nowadays doesn't need to. I think Firefly's (eventual) success really helped the genre turn a corner, and subsequent hits like BSG showed that "serious" sci-fi was feasible on the TV model. These two series also really ratcheted up viewer expectations for what "good" sci-fi TV should be.
I appreciate the classics like TNG for keeping certain franchises alive and the genre as a whole stumbling along until it could really hit its stride in the '00s, and I do think the shows have some watch value even today, but honestly most of it is rooted in nostalgia and historic importance.
90s was the breakout time for TV. Before that was sketchy. Go watch Cheers knowing that was the most popular show on TV.
Agreed, the 90s marked a major improvement (and expansion, thanks to cable) in television compared to prior decades. Children's television in particular flourished, especially educational programs. I'd consider it a stepping-stone era, however, as like I said things improved substantially again in the following decade.
Well everything improves over time, but the 90s is when TV turned into something good. You were discussing about aging poorly, but it was the 80s that aged poorly because of everything you said about budget, not attracting the top actors, writers, etc. That all changed in the 90s.
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DS9 still holds up today. I don't think I will ever reach a point in my life where "In the Pale Moonlight" isn't some of the best television ever made.
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The first two seasons are a bit slow, but still great character building. By the third season, they've become a family, and by the fourth season, you're watching some of the best TV ever made.
The same could be said about you. 😤
True.
I've just watched TNG for the first time, and going through DS9 now. It still kicks ass.
Sure, it looks dated, and pre-beard TNG was rough, but I can absolutely see why trekkies are so deeply obsessed with it.
Wait until you get to the last season. Masterpiece.
captain hawk will always kick ass.
Lol, tell that to the bible.
because star trek has long been welcoming to gay and trans people for their inclusiveness and the fediverse is home to a lot of nerds and gay or trans (or both) people. 💕
Actually, I would go one further and say Star Trek is axon of almost ALL people.
Say it again so the kids in back can hear ye
No Dominion in my federation!
Exactly. The question that answers itself.
Aye-yai Cap-ten!
star trek mods successfully moved their communities from reddit back then. afaik the only other community with similar success is the piracy community.
Trek fully embraced the principals of piracy. "You wouldn't download a car"? Motherfucker, here's a replicator.
Stargate would like to talk to you about replicators.
Successfully pulling off a lift-and-move like that was huge. I wish more niche/fandoms had followed suit instead of staying put.
Unfortunately, outside of the meme zone (i.e. ![email protected]) there isn't a whole lot of engagement anymore. Once the blackout was over, the reddit communities opened back up.
I mean, look at r/DaystromInstitute versus ![email protected] – it's not pretty.
Yeah, but DaystromInstitute kind of sucked. They didn't have enough of a sense of humor. It didn't need to be Risa, but they took themselves way too seriously.
There was a post the other day about how Reddit never took anything seriously and how the top comments were always predictable jokes that stopped being funny years ago.
It was nice to have places like Daystrom, Ask Science, etc. that were curated for serious discussion.
I'm not saying they should have all been jokes and memes, I'm saying they were a little too "everything must stick to a canon that isn't especially coherent sometimes."
Daystrom provided a place for a more academic-style analysis that would have been drowned out even on r/StarTrek which already didn't allow low-effort.
Not for everyone, but it worked for those who liked it.
Well that sucks. I am guilty of really only following Risa, mostly due to big gaps in my watch history and wanting to avoid spoilers for the newer shows. I'm not surprised though... Reddit had (and still has) tremendous amounts of inertia.
Really? I was banned for a similar reason.
Someone asked the question on that sub, "Why do people hate on Discovery". And I answered.
I wasn't edgy. I wasn't trying to insult. I explained, I gave definitions, I made examples. Apparently the moderator wanted my post to be censored because I wasn't being "honest and truthful with myself" and used words and terms that weren't allowed, such as "Mary Sue".
I quoted Drumhead.
The mod really didn't like that.
Lol.
Lemmy isn't much better. The mod Stamets loves DIS so you better not criticize it. I assume he was the reddit mod.
I was arguing with him that Disco wasn't great, didn't know who he was, and looked at his history. I stopped arguing once I saw him banning for arguing against him.
I'm pretty sure what he doesn't like is people just dumping on it, which makes sense because we're not hanging out in a place to dump on star trek. Discussion is another thing entirely.
Personally, I think it had a lot of problems to begin with, and i'm glad they soldiered on through at least for the Spock season because damn did it give our older characters a lot more depth. You know, the depth that you feel in them but wasn't explicitly there? Makes Spock's internal struggles and relationships make so much more sense, and sets Pike up perfectly as the absolute idol of all the captains we've seen. Like they're trying to live up to him, each in their own way, but none of them have really gotten to know the guy. Recontextualized the whole thing for me, in a good way. Lots to think about.
Anyway, i've talked with him about that stuff, and some of the problems with it and that's the impression I got.
You know we're talking about the Star Trek subreddit, right? Not Lemmy?
Also, what I wrote about happened at least 3 years ago, so well before I even heard of Lemmy.
Lastly, I never even realised that comment you're referring to was removed until now. Mildly sad about it, but not important.
By the way, Hello Stamets person thing! You have a bit of a reputation for being an STD shill, it seems. If the comments about you are to believed, at least. Do you run your Star Trek server in a similar fashion as the one on Reddit?
From what I've seen of Lower Decks I really dig it and it seems to fit in quite nicely IMO
That's the only new Trek show I've seen since DS9
The new Trek movies were pretty meh IMO
honestly, y'all should both give strange new worlds a shot. to me they're the closest we've ever gotten to TOS. even moreso than TNG. and i agree that the other new treks were ass.
Agreed. I was soooo doubtful about SNW after discovery. Picard season 3 was fantastic, but the first two seasons were hot garbage
I've heard good things about strange new worlds and I've been meaning to check it out
I almost hate to break this to you...
Careful, there's a mod named Stamets here that will ban you for not loving Disco. He was probably the reddit mod too.
Lemmy is socialist by nature, and so is Trek, but also it's Trek, one of the two most iconic Sci-fi franchises available, Reddit was basically the same way but with Star Wars, but for some reason there seemed to be far too many people on the dark side and simping for the empire and Vader.
The “Empire did nothing wrong” stuff was pretty weird indeed.
The Plagueis Tragedy even made it huge on r/Place one year.
That was just for the meme
Alot of them are living in an empire they've been conditioned to be okay with after all.
iirc George Lucas himself said that Star Wars is an allegory for the Vietnamese (Rebel Alliance) resisting American imperialism (Galactic Empire)
Oh, some are not only conditioned to be okay with it, but will defend it till their death.
Ah thank you! I've been trying to remember what subbreddit took their villain rp too seriously. It wasn't all that funny when people just swapped out real slurs and minorities for fictional ones.
Gah,..remember the top voted thread in every post was a pun thread. Hilarious days.
Also the Empire was only consolidated to fend off enemies from outside the galaxy that only the darksiders could see. ;’D
Lemmy is filled with leftists and geeks. They're the same demographic.
Star Trek is post scarcity. It is more evolved than your politics.
Our world is already post scarcity too for basic needs like food and housing. We're just terrible at actually getting them to people since most countries are still capitalist, so they prioritize capital/profit over human lives and rely on what's basically slave labour from less developed nations to make the ruling class richer.
Under capitalism, food isn't produced to eat but to make profits. When it's not profitable to sell, they would rather dump foods, starving the people than to plainly donate.
We produce enough foods to feed the entire population. But the sole purpose of food is to not feed the people, but to feed the greed of the producers, the farmers, the corporates.
Capitalism created an artificial scarcity of food where we produce too much food for the obese and throw the rest away to rot in front of the poor.
Read an article in the economist ten years ago or so that said that with the automation potential back then, we could have 70% unemployment and still produce western middle-class living standards for absolutely everyone. Probably not cars (go public transport, instead) but definitely roof and four walls, healthy food, education and entertainment, healthcare, and a washing machine. Reason it's not happening is that while investing in that kind of thing has a giant ROI, it's also long-term, for quarterly or even ten-year profits it's more advantageous to hire humans.
Honestly, actually that's good news: It's going to happen one way or the other anyway, and we don't want that kind of control over automated means of productions in the hands of people too greedy to invest in it.
Just gonna point out that by definition, a world that is post-scarcity is post-scarcity for all of its inhabitants. Your assertion that there are "less developed" nations that "don't get basic resources" means we are not post-scarcity.
That's just one definition, no? You could interpret this part of the wiki like I did for example
and conclude that we're already in that world, like Star Trek is.
It can mean that if you cherry-pick your clauses, but if you actually take the entire text into account, you are absolutely wrong. Tell me what "basic needs" are met cheaply or freely to the general population of the planet? And I mean all of us. From the children in Beverly Hills to the grandparents in Mozambique. Food, shelter, water. At a bare minimum, those three are available cheaply to everyone on the planet on a post-scarcity planet. We absolutely do not live on one of those at this point.
They could have easily have those ends met, but at the moment, they can't easily go get those basic needs fulfilled.
Like I said, just different ways of interpreting the definitions.
The wiki definition "people can easily have their basic survival needs met" is passive, which could mean either
The latter is how I interpreted it. And that's our world, just hindered by our current political/economic system of capitalism.
Aside from the arguments posited by this comment’s siblings, I’ll add: artificial scarcity is scarcity nonetheless.
We’re very far from post-scarcity despite the fact that there’s seemingly no material conditions stopping us from achieving it.
And yet the political commentary displayed in the series is blatantly leftist in nature, and was written in the context of modern Capitalism.
Just like showing a dystopian hyper-Capitalist cyberpunk future is a commentary on the dangers of modern day Capitalism, showing a more "enlightened" post-scarcity Communist society as a hopeful future is also commentary on modern day society.
Sci-fi is pretty much just political, as it's all speculative fiction based on different possibilities of modern society abstracted to a future setting.
Sure but there are other franchises far more popular amongst geeks, so why Star Trek specifically?
Watch Star Trek TNG and you'll instantly get it. The original series was getting a bit dated by the 90s, but TNG is still as fresh as you can get, talking about issues we're still dealing with - It's timeless. Not to mention it has, IMO, the best and most synergistic crew of the whole franchise.
Popular, geeky, and leftist. That last one likely resonates with a large part of the communist/socialist community we have here on Lemmy.
It certainly does for Lemmy dev Dessalines, seeing how they're responding on this thread too.
I didn't know Star Trek was related to leftist
A future without money, where peace, feminism and diversity rule? Yes, leftist ☺️
tbh, i'm not sure you're correct. most other franchises are either more devicive or do not have the same cross generational appeal.
Star wars is highly devicive
Stargate was widely loved but currently only exists for a single generation
BSG was great but didnt achieve the same culture permiation that star trek did
Are you telling me there aren't enough star trek communities?
Because Babylon 5 ended in 1998 and the reboot isn't even in production yet. Also MGM doesn't have the faintest idea what it's supposed to do with Stargate.
Federation. Star Trek. IT. Linux. Programming socks. Gay. Furries.
This sums up the vocal group here. There are others, but these seem to be the most common.
Jesus, just call me out by name if you're going to be so specific
I mean, it's a really good build.
But will it compile?
Well it would if you had all the right libraries, but it looks like one of them has a new version that made a breaking change. Shouldn't be more than 5 minutes' porting work if you know C++.
Sounds like you're trying to summon a nerdy Captain Planet
Communism
That’s just a red herring…
No, no, the flag is red, not the herrings.
Anecdotally I have the impression a lot of North American Lemmy users are technology professionals and enthusiasts in their 40s and 50s and therefore many would also be Trekkies from the 20th century.
Hey, some of us are in our 30's too!
Hiya, youngblood!
Some may say even those in their 20s are here!
Woot!
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Source: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-approximate-number-of-Star-Trek-fans-worldwide
There's also the song 99 Luftballoons which includes the line "Everyone's a Captain Kirk."
Not exactly a positive analogy, but it shows how deeply embedded it is in a collective culture.
i hate to break it to you, but i heard she doesnt dig you either
bonus!
(i kinda thought she was dead)
Infinite diversity in infinite combinations.
(Also, DS9 was the best.)
This is correct.
TNG for the best captain but DS9 for best characters and stories.
I'm not that into Star Trek but until other scifi communities I'm actually into get as active as Star Trek, I'll be hanging out with the trekkies.
Babylon 5 is our last best hope, or we could look further afield - Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now fight to survive far, far away, amongst the stars.
Others have brought up other reasons, but one I haven't seen is simply the depth of material to work with. Trek has had multiple multi-season series and tons of movies, which means you can basically find the right image for any meme if you watch enough of it.
You never watch enough of it!
I'm in the middle of my fifth or sixth Voyager rewatch now, and I don't even like Voyager that much. It's the perfect sort of thing to watch as I drift off to sleep, and the quality really improves after Year of Hell.
Man, there's a dedicated instance for yiff.
Compared to that, star trek is a million times more popular lol.
But, like other people have said, it's a huge thing. Star Trek is one of, if not the most successful TV universe. It crossed into movies, comics, books, toys, everything. The "brand" spans most of a human lifetime so far, and has done so with a surprisingly minor degree of fuckery that insults the fan base.
So you end up with generations of fans, across all kinds of demographics.
It's science fiction. And there's not many
hives of scum and villainyplaces online that are more sci-fi friendly than lemmy; even mastodon isn't quite as sci-fi loving.But you may be missing that star wars has a ton of related C/s as well. There's dedicated sci-fi C/s scattered around. Compare that to genres like fantasy or westerns, and you start to see the trend leaning that way.
But, you're right that it is a disproportionate thing. The only "brand" that seems to be as universal as trek on lemmy is LOTR, and that's a foundation of fantasy as a whole.
I think open source is a very Star Trek-ish Idea, so it's natural that people from that community like a show with similar values.
Can't star trek across the fediverse without multiple space docks.
Just watch for the Klingons on the starboard bow.
Scrape ‘em off, Jim!
It's worse than that, it's Threads, Jim!
Because Star Trek (the old stuff, not the new stuff) is for nerds, and Lemmy is also for nerds.
Nerds.
The United Federation of Planets
But in this case with servers running Lemmy
It's not my thing but I appreciate just how much depth and substance Star Trek has to it and the sci-fi theme is a perfect fit for most people who frequent Lemmy.
Ok but what is star trek
In the fictional universe of Star Trek, the United Federation of Planets is the interstellar government with which, as part of its space force Starfleet, most of the characters and starships of the franchise are affiliated.
I had to scroll way too far for this.
You know folks gotta get the jokes off, lmao
Other sci-fi series? What "other sci-fi series"?
EDIT: I wasn't asking for recommendations, and honestly nothing you can offer will measure up to the glory that is Star trek. Soz all, LLAP 🖖
Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda, of course!
Sadly, it turns out that Kevin Sorbo is a massive douchebag. As someone who grew up with Hercules, finding that out was extremely depressing.
Happily, Lucy Lawless (Xena) is almost exactly opposite, so those shows don't have to be all bad.
hmmm theres meme potential with their off-camera character disparity..... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
From what I remember he didn't go completely bugfuck insane until after Hercules.
And he has a massive ego, hence the 'God damn I look good.'
Also, Andromeda was marginally acceptable in Season 1 and awful for the rest.
But I suppose we have Gene to thank for it, just like Star Trek.
What about Earth Final Conflict?
Firefly 🥺
Lest we forget.
Sheeeit,.. I watch Alien 4 just to watch more proto-Firefly characters in action. The hidden wheelchair guns are my favorite.
Expanse holds pretty true. Still doesn’t have it all like Trek tho.
The Orville, of course!
Nope. It's like a version of Voyager where everybody is as annoying as Neelix. I gave it a season's benefit of the doubt, never again.
Twilight Zone?
Hard to argue with fanatics, I agree.
The Star Trek TV shows are far superior to any of the movies anyway.
Even starting with the original series' movies, they tried to make them more action-y than philosophical to appeal to a broader audience, and while they're a lot of fun, I rewatch the shows WAY more for a reason.
And now that you know, feel free to join us in the rabbit hole!
Oh yeah, it's TV for sure. The original ran from 1966-69 with 79 episodes, and that was going to be it because they had never heard of a "fandom" before.
Then, they realized that people were showing up to conventions and obsessing over the show, so they finally made the first movie in 1979 and then started the next show in the 80s (which ran for like 140-150 episodes).
The TV series is the main draw, with any movies along the way just being a bonus.
everything made after 1989 is them (still) trying to make up for dropping a big huge giant turd ball that summer.
Lol, you mean you didn't like them singing Row Row Row Your Boat around the campfire? Or Uhura's sexy fan dance? How about Scotty running into a crossbeam like he's in the Three Stooges?
Plus the movies were alternating hit and miss. The first was so-so, Wrath of Kahn was good, Search for Spock was meh, Voyage Home was my favorite, etc
Same. Every time I watch one of the movies (outside of wrath of khan), it feels like I'm watching the worst, most dumbed down episode of any given trek season.
Imo, TOS is the exception because while the series is obviously great, the movies are where those characters really shine. Khan is great and establsihed the film franchise but The Undiscovered Country is nearly a perfect film.
im a little jealous.
one of my fav movies in the first star trek movie. i was young and the movie just seemed larger than life.. i still feel that way watching it.
unfortunately, i think im the only one. it gets consistently ranked last even by fans for some reason.
To this day the government is still trying to create a lot of the tech from Star Trek. They are actively working on warp technology, replicators for food and clothes etc and Star Trek was the basis for a lot of today’s computers (i.e. no tubes like old tvs and computers before the invention of the desktop computer).
One time the government actually approached the producers and wanted to know how they got the doors to open and close automatically like they do. Genes answer “there’s two men holding onto broom sticks, one on each side, when the actor walked up to the doors they would pull the broomsticks and make a ‘whooshing’ sound as they opened and closed them “
Now we have that tech on 90% of retail shop doors. Star Trek was the basis for a lot of tech we use now.
This is actually something i also noticed when i switched to lemmy from reddit. In reddit its all star wars and here its all star trek. I lean more in the star trek direction so im happy here
It's only logical.
It's popular, very memeable, has a long history, and most importantly: there's 2-3 series of it running right now. So it's topical and being engaged with.
it is a giant, hot garbage dump of memeable content. i love it
As others have said, Federation.
I expect it was a random first arrival bias.
You do understand the entire structure of this Network is based on Star Trek, right?
What do you mean "no other scifi series"? Muad'Dib Muad'Dib Muad'Dib
Because that community decided to leave and start a place here when things blew up. Other communities didn't. They're active, so people hang out there. There's a fairly low barrier to entry for new folks to participate (a lot of people have watched some Star Trek).
Really, having an active community say, we're leaving and setting up shop here goes a long way. I wish my niche subreddit had done so as well.
Fediverse: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no one has gone before.
Fediverse: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the
starship EnterpriseInstances of Lemmy.ItsTheir continuing mission: to explore strange newworldsthreads; to seek out newlifememes and newcivilizationsplaces to post them; to boldlygoshitpost where no one hasgoneshitposted before.Because Star Wars destroyed their own Empire
Because we have strength of the soul
Resistance is futile.
Also didn’t the two big subreddits permanently shut down and move to the fediverse?
Your instance will be assimilated
Lemmy was built by and for people who like Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism morality plays.
C'mon you gotta love the original Star Trek series at the very least. I mean it was a milestone and it's still my favorite of all the Treks out there.
The fact that it has so many communities (for Trek in general) shows that it really resonates with people across the board. I can't think of many other shows that have achieved that. Its the mix of science fiction and adventure with very human emotions and problems that make it so appealing, I think.
TIL you can have text formatting in headlines on Lemmy. Cool! ...I think.
question 2: how to join
it's a series about having autism
I think it would be awsome to have Trekkies and Whovians do some crossovers.
it happens regularly o'er at startrek.website
Lord of the Rings amd Star Wars had their moment
Cuz is cool AF.
Because it's the best space anime that's why besides star begins with s and lemmy with l so if we take the two you have ls which is a command on GNU/Linux and other Unix like operating systems that shows the current place contents so you can literally see for yourself what you have to share as Commons thus you see when combined they do magic together by implementing communism but you know what the real is liberalism and political conservatism1111!! hahahaha wooowwwwwww
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