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Inmate charged with attempted murder after George Floyd killer Chauvin stabbed 22 times

The complaint alleges that while incarcerated at Federal Correctional Institution Tucson, John Turscak, 52, stabbed Chauvin about 22 times "with an improvised knife," prosecutors said.

Turscak was charged with attempted murder, assault with intent to commit murder, assault with a dangerous weapon, and assault resulting in serious bodily injury, according to prosecutors.

The investigation in the case was conducted by the FBI.

Attempted murder and assault with intent to commit murder violations each carry maximum penalties of 20 years incarceration, while assault with a dangerous weapon and assault resulting in serious bodily injury each carry maximum penalties of 10 years.

Chauvin was expected to survive following the attack last week in a prison in Arizona, the Minnesota Attorney General's office said earlier.

Inmate charged with attempted murder after George Floyd killer Chauvin stabbed 22 timeshttps://www.reuters.com/world/us/inmate-charged-with-attempted-murder-after-george-floyd-killer-chauvin-stabbed-2023-12-01/Open linkView original on lemmy.ca
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Imagine you wake up at 6 AM on a monday morning in May, weather is already warm, drink your coffee, take on your uniform and go to your police job. Approximately 2 hours later, you knee on the neck of a black man doing your usual racism like you did for the past years, nothing special. At 8:20 AM you notice that this time the guy is not moving anymore...

Three years later, you wake up in a prison cell, listening to the command shouted by the corrections officer, walking down the hallway and suddenly getting stabbed by someone 22 times.

That is some Butterfly-Effect shit that you didn't saw coming when you woke up on that day in may in 2020. He must think a lot about this day. And George. For George it was an even worst day that day in May.

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kbin.social

I wonder if Derek is now realizing that the entire system he worked for and upheld only produces violence. It's not that he shouldn't be stabbed, but that no one in the justice system should be subject to the violence he himself subjected on others, like Floyd. Truly hosted by his own peitard.

And for that reason, my sympathies are limited.

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the entire system he worked for and upheld only produces violence

They all know that already - they just think its a good thing because the pain is inflicted on those they consider the "bad kind" of person.

The reality is that when fascists are confronted by their own violence, they aren't against the violence, they're just against it happening to them, because they think they are the "good kind" of person.

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I wonder if Derek is now realizing that the entire system he worked for and upheld only produces violence.

He already knew that - that's why he joined the pigs.

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kbin.social

Yuuuup. Oh well. At this pint I think it would be more embarrassing to go back and edit. 😂

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It wasn't just a stranger too. They knew each other. Used to work security together at a Minneapolis nightclub called El nuevo rodeo. The club was later burned down during the protests.

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lemmy.world

Holy crap! I knew he survived the stabbing, I didn't know he survived being stabbed TWENTY-TWO times...

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NOSinreply
lemmy.world

Keep in mind that a prison shiv is very rudimentary and most likely not very long. Add to that the resilience of the human body and that makes this fact not that surprising.

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girlfreddyreply
lemmy.ca

Yup. A disposable razor blade melted into a toothbrush might give you a 1/2" blade. Unless they hit an artery it's unlikely you'd die.

That said it would still suck to be stabbed/sliced 22 times, then have to consider heading back to gen pop in week or so.

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Harpsistreply
lemmy.world

Almost as unfortunate as being an innocent man shoved to the ground and having the life literally squeezed from you.

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Investigator: asks suspect Did you stab Derek Chauvin 22 times?

Suspect: See I never did things just to do them. Come on, I mean, what am I gonna do? Just all of a sudden jump up and start stabbing on somebody? Like it's, you know, it's something to do?

Suspect: Come on, I got a little more sense than that.

Suspect: Yeah I remember stabbing Derek Chauvin.

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It was infuriating to watch how slowly the wheels of justice worked in Chauvin's case- not only did he commit murder, he did it on camera in front of witnesses and we all saw it on the news over and over and there had to be protests before charges were considered- and even after all that, there was serious debate over whether or not he was guilty.

...and in this situation, charges being brought against his attacker are the news, which illustrates the double-standard of a system that plain didn't want to work on George Floyd's behalf but certainly does seem to want to work on Chauvin's

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Guy is in prison after turning on the mexican mafia. He probably wanted to ensure he stays in.

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No, no, he's a danger to prisoners so they need to lock him OUTSIDE of the prison. Until he stabs someone on the outside 23 times, then he's better off back in.

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Or maybe opensource prison.it'd go against the freedom aspect but it's a prison anyway.

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This would never have happened if Chauvin and his ilk would just learn to follow directions...

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lemmy.world

why is the news reporting on this and not every other prison stabbing? I know the press covered manson in prison for years but this kind of thing is really indicative of bad journalism

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lemmy.world

First time I'm hearing about this.

Chauvin was expected to survive following the attack last week

Damnit.

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FaceDeerreply
kbin.social

Chauvin was not sentenced to be stabbed 22 times. As awful a person as he likely is, I would rather not see extrajudicial killing be praised.

Performing extrajudicial killing is what got him behind bars in the first place, after all. Quite rightly so.

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to explain how awful chauvin is... the only reason he got convicted was because he's such an asshole, that not even other cops were willing to protect him, despite the Blue Wall of Silence.

you're right, though. it shouldn't be allowed.

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Altoreply
kbin.social

I'm not gonna root for it, but I certainly wouldn't be upset if someone's successful

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

If anything, it's better that he lived. To be further painfully reminded.

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Agreed, I want him to actually fear for his life instead of using that as an excuse

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kbin.social

I’ll never wish for someone’s death, but there are a few obituaries I will read with joy.

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You almost had it:

"All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction."

--Clarence Darrow

The last part is often misattributed to Twain.

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sh.itjust.works

Floyd wasn't sentenced to death either but one of them was executed by the state anyway

ETA What a person is sentenced to isn't necessarily what's right. Famous actual rapist Brock Allen Turner (he goes by Allen Turner now apparently) only got 6 months for violently raping a woman.

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CTDummyreply
lemm.ee

At least there is less people clamouring for stuff like this and prison rape here, unlike reddit. Crazy people will be ok with sort of thing just because they think someone “deserves” if.

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Paddzrreply
lemmy.world

Don't worry, those type of comments are already here.

People out for blood. At least there's less of them here than on reddit...

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lemmy.world

Yeah, he's going to survive through a very painful recovery from twenty-two stab wounds.

And then he'll be put back in prison. With the other prisoners again.

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FuglyDuckreply
lemmy.world

only reason I don't want him to get stabbed again is because I don't want anyone else's life to get ruined by this shit cop. or, more ruined... I guess. I dunno. They're in prison, so, you know.

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I want him to fully experience every day that he was sentenced to live in prison. Death would be an early release.

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Aw man. After 23 stabbings, you get an extra Ramen noodle spice packet and broken noodles to sprinkle on top.

Missed it by that much!

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The only good thing about this story is that he survived so he can be stabbed again.

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

While I'm not gonna cry over this garbage person getting hurt, let's not actively celebrate extrajudicial punishment. Prison is already a fucked up piece of our fucked up "justice" system.

Next you gonna tell me that someone who rapes him would deserve a medal? Because that would be the same energy.

And both are fucked up ways of thinking.

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I'm going to go even further than you and say the director of the prison should face severe consequences (as in, years in jail) for failing to protect a convict.

Prisoners have most of their rights stripped away from them as a punishment. Defending themselves or avoiding situations where violence can happen is not possible for them, and the responsibility for that therefore falls on the people in charge of applying the punishment. Here, the management of the correctional facility.

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lemmy.world

Thank you for saying it.

Justice isn't getting stabbed in prison 22 times. The same way Justice is kneeling on the neck of a non-violent offender until he is dead.

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Exactly.

True justice would be to ensure he never re-offends, pays his dues to society and the family, and ideally comes out of prison a better person that actively benefits society as a rehabilitated offender.

But our current justice system doesn't do that, either.

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lemmy.world

attempted murder, assault with intent to commit murder, assault with a dangerous weapon, and assault resulting in serious bodily injury,

this sounds like they're charging him 4 times for the same thing? just because you can reword it with bullshit legalese like that doesn't make it right? isn't this functionally going against double jeopardy? i mean i'm sure it's cop in-group shit but still

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I think they consider some charges together. Like charge them with Murder 1 and Murder 2. Prosecution presents its case. The jury is instructed on elements of each crime to be found guilty. Then they choose which single one to convict or none.

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I don't know how crimes in prison work, but a typical DA will charge every crime possible just for bargaining position. Not only does it make it easier to get a charge to stick to the guilty, it also makes it possible to win a case against the innocent.

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