Former lurker checking in, trying to take this new start on Lemmy as a way to participate more and hopefully contribute a bit, I wonder how many will do the same coming from reddit.
This is what I love about Lemmy so far. I don't open a thread and see the amount of comments that make me not want to add another comment. If I see thousands of comments, I'll assume my joke or point has already been made and just lurk.
Here, I feel like I can contribute and make these comments
Coming to a comment thread to reply "this" feels so cheugy. When I think of the heydey of reddit, I think of 2011 in my dorm room doing the grow a college subreddit. And here we are twelve years later and the best experience you can get now is exactly that same experience.
A month or two ago I got a bunch of downvotes for explaining why I didn't like a game. The people responding said it was because my comment was "too long." It was like six sentences. Why are these people on Reddit instead of Twitter?
Yeah lve been a lurker for over 10 years over there and I was sick of all the karma whoring, the low quality posts and especially the pun threads that would bend my face with cringe. Hopefully we can get things right on the Lemmy-verse
It’s still the greatest alternative out there because it’s very similar to Apollo and not just “inspired by”. I don’t even know if haptic feedback is possible on PWA but I guess time will tell.
Same, that’s what I’ve been doing and it really just feels like using Apollo again.
Edit: once I’m able to save posts to my profile, long press to download, and organize groups of communities it will be indistinguishable (for me anyway, a mostly-lurker)
I’ve been using Memmy for iOS. It’s amazing with constant updates. Need to get it installed via TestFlight, but the developer has submitted it to the App Store as well so hopefully it will be broadly available.
Edit: missed the part about pwa, but this is a native mobile app.
I’d agree. Wefwef is great, although it isn’t as smooth as a native app it seems. But it’s very good regardless. May also be it is a little iffy with iOS 17? Not sure.
I've been running it in Firefox on android (just made the switch to android so this... app? site? has been a godsend) and its working impressively smoothly, I'd think it was native if I didn't know otherwise.
That would he so nice. RiF is delightful. I love it's not about bells and whistles, it was simple looking and the layout was clean and consistent. RIP RiF.
With iOS 17, web apps will get more features to make them feel more native. It might be so close that it will be hard to tell the difference between a web-developed native app and a PWA. Wefwef is already really nice and it's mere days old. I can't wait to see where they take it.
wefwef and Memmy are starting to feel like Apollo already.
Connect seems to be inching closer to Relay with each update, and Jerboa gives off RiF vibes.
People need to post about this on reddit more to perhaps encourage the other devs to do the same; might've actually worked for Boost cuz the dev didn't originally plan to port it to Lemmy it seems
Really excited about Infinity for Everything! I used Infinity for Reddit and it was hands-down my favorite app. Looks like the Everything version is still pretty early. Will be watching it closely.
Developer of RedReader also said they want to eventually support Lemmy and perhaps tildes and hacker news, even though RedReader got an exemption from the api fees for now. But as a "long-term vision", so probably not immediately.
Tbh, it's probably good for multiple devs to go different ways. We don't know which, if any, reddit replacement can take hold. I love rif and the developer behind it, I hope their journey goes well.
I like the minimal UI of Tildes much like I heavily preferred the old reddit page design. It's not fancy but it's very functional, and Tildes is deliberately designed the way it is to discourage low effort content (e.g. no image/video embedding). I go to Tildes for the discussions and I come to Lemmy for the more "fast and loose" atmosphere
That makes a lot of sense. The culture on there is more focused on text based communication which would probably help keep out advertisers since pictures and videos are so heavily relied upon for consumerism. I will see if there are any scripts I can run to make the site more pleasing to my eyes.
On scripts/css, there actually are several discussions about solutions that some site users have developed! I don't have any of them bookmarked but I'd imagine they're findable through tags or via the search function, plus they tend to resurface every few days.
On that note, one interesting thing about Tildes is that threads tend to bump to the top forum style instead of being algorithm-controlled (with a few nuances/caveats). It's just part of the site loop. Additionally, it's run entirely as a non profit, private entity funded by donations. I'd highly recommend reading through the philosophy section in the docs to get a better idea of why the site is the way it is.
It is invite-only though. If you don't have an account already, feel free to DM me for one if you're interested, I've got a few left.
I gotta admit that I'm a bit disappointed with the owner of Relay for Reddit as he decided to stay and turn it into a subscription model. He might have attached his cart to the wrong horse. That's what I want to believe anyway.
Won't all nsfw content be invisible to third-party apps?
So people aren't paying to keep reddit alive, they're paying to have some advertiser friendly, bot-ridden husk of reddit available outside the official app.
Those outsized API fees don't even get you the original reddit experience, it's disgusting.
I don't blame the dev, but I also don't understand his decision.
Dude I discovered reddit because bacon reader. Hell I didn't even knew there was an official app. I NEED the tile scrolling,it's such a pain to have to go back and scroll to the next post instead of just slide from one to another. Maybe we can send him an email? I know he has like a weather app or something?
wefwef and Memmy are starting to feel like Apollo already.
Connect seems to be inching closer to Relay with each update, and Jerboa gives off RiF vibes.
People need to post about this on reddit more to perhaps encourage the other devs to do the same; might've actually worked for Boost cuz the dev didn't originally plan to port it to Lemmy it seems
Jerboa is so incredibly buggy right now though, that it barely worked for me at all. I just switched to Liftoff. It also has its fair share of bugs but at least functions almost reliably.
I've been test driving android apps for lemmy for hours now and it's been fun but I'd love to see one with a RIF UX. Any chance we can convince Andy to develop RIF for lemmy?
They'll jump if they want to. If it's any consolation, the dev for Boost (my Reddit app of choice before everything went down like it did) announced that he was going to make a Boost for Lemmy after commenting that he wouldn't. Perhaps the Infinity dev will come to a similar conclusion?
Infinity dev 200% should, I think I heard they wanted to move on to beginner level it for some reason and wonder why they even should when there are riches to be made running a free app with donations
Stealth never has had account integrations because its only a reddit viewer, and I think recently its also switched over to just web scraping old.reddit.com
Most likely this won't work forever - just like fritter (open source twitter reader) they will patch the scraping into oblivion
An app is making the difference for me between Lemmy & Squabbles. Squabbles via an app is looking very much like Reddit, but Lemmy has the numbers, I believe.
Yeah some of the app devs are going to implement support for lemmy while also continuing to support reddit.
Looking at this from a business perspective, I think that would be the smartest move. When a business partner unilaterally jacks up the price, while it might feel satisfying to tell them to go fuck themselves, it's probably not the smartest move. The smart move is to continue doing business while making partnerships with others just in case the asshole partner jacks up the price again.
I think it might be a thing where these apps will use lemmy for the free version while offering reddit for a subscription. If this is the case, we'll see a gradual increase of users on lemmy with a gradual decline of users on reddit. Older people who stubbornly stick to reddit will pay the subscription, while younger people that can't afford a subscription to reddit (and have no attachment to it anyway) will use the free versions and use lemmy.
I'm still pretty sure whoever came up with that was a troll and was trying to get that person that was posting from the airport to embarrass themself in public
Its so nice being on a platform where the first 1000 comments on every post aren't just low effort jokes.
I haven’t even considered this. Most users on Reddit are lurkers. It doesn’t take many of us to make new communities worth visiting
Former lurker checking in, trying to take this new start on Lemmy as a way to participate more and hopefully contribute a bit, I wonder how many will do the same coming from reddit.
I am! Mostly lurked because by the time I got to threads they were already too popular and were flooded with hundreds of comments.
This is what I love about Lemmy so far. I don't open a thread and see the amount of comments that make me not want to add another comment. If I see thousands of comments, I'll assume my joke or point has already been made and just lurk.
Here, I feel like I can contribute and make these comments
Same here, I like the Fediverse, so I try to contribute to it. With reddit it was more of a convenience and mindless thing
I definitely am. Not a huge talker but I'm really trying to do my part here. It also helps that this community just feels a lot more welcoming.
Me too. And in nuking ten years of reddit history I realised I had stopped posting over the years as it got so big it just wasn't needed
I'm with you there, it's certainly worth it to try and post and comment more and ther is a much more relaxed positive vibe here.
Absolutely. Currently a lot of places here feel how Reddit used to be when I joined up. I quite like it.
Your low-effort comment wasn't even funny.
🤣🤣
Coming to a comment thread to reply "this" feels so cheugy. When I think of the heydey of reddit, I think of 2011 in my dorm room doing the grow a college subreddit. And here we are twelve years later and the best experience you can get now is exactly that same experience.
A month or two ago I got a bunch of downvotes for explaining why I didn't like a game. The people responding said it was because my comment was "too long." It was like six sentences. Why are these people on Reddit instead of Twitter?
The fuck does cheugy mean?
Cheugy – A pejorative description of lifestyle trends associated with the early 2010s
How the fuck do you say it? Choo-gie?
I think that's right.
It means something that used to be in style but now is considered corny or lame.
I think we just witnessed the birth of its use! It vibes like something that's chuggy but has a kind of abstract phlegmy quality to it.
Who knows - I should be sleeping!
it is not a brand new term
the fuck is phlegmy?
the fuck is phlegmy?
It's that kind of mucus you cough up, normally if you're a bit sick. Not quite snot, not quite spit. Somewhere between.
I too would like to know
this.
Cheugy
Ok zoomer. It's just a phase.
cheugy
Cheugy
Choo-choo!
You forgot reposts for karma whoring.
Good thing about Lemmy is the lack of karma, so we'll be doing just normal whoring I guess.
I bet itll get worse with reddit becoming public and trying to juice money from reddit.
Yeah lve been a lurker for over 10 years over there and I was sick of all the karma whoring, the low quality posts and especially the pun threads that would bend my face with cringe. Hopefully we can get things right on the Lemmy-verse
Would love for the Apollo app developer Christian to get on board and join the Wefwef developers to make a native app.
Found wefwef today and love it.
I was kind of bummed when I realized it wasn’t a native app, but so far it’s been working great regardless.
I’ve added it to my Home Screen and to be honest I can barely tell it’s not a native app. It’s shockingly well put together so far.
the native site added as an app isn't half bad either, it works in a very similar way but it just has some UI niggles
Maybe I’m being stupid, but isn’t that what I’m doing when I use the „Add to Home Screen“ function in Safari?
yep! It works well because the website has been designed to that way
That's honestly what I've been using the most. I use a chrome app for my admin account and a Firefox app for this one.
Until I realized that there’s no haptic feedback.
It’s still the greatest alternative out there because it’s very similar to Apollo and not just “inspired by”. I don’t even know if haptic feedback is possible on PWA but I guess time will tell.
Same, that’s what I’ve been doing and it really just feels like using Apollo again.
Edit: once I’m able to save posts to my profile, long press to download, and organize groups of communities it will be indistinguishable (for me anyway, a mostly-lurker)
Yep, probably the second best pwa I’ve used
What's the best one?
I’ve been using Memmy for iOS. It’s amazing with constant updates. Need to get it installed via TestFlight, but the developer has submitted it to the App Store as well so hopefully it will be broadly available.
Edit: missed the part about pwa, but this is a native mobile app.
Just curious: what's the best you've been used?
Same, works really well. The people who developed it have done an amazing job.
Agreed. I only viewed reddit through apollo; if he can shift, I’ll absolutely stay with apollo over reddit.
Wefwef is for you
I’d agree. Wefwef is great, although it isn’t as smooth as a native app it seems. But it’s very good regardless. May also be it is a little iffy with iOS 17? Not sure.
I've been running it in Firefox on android (just made the switch to android so this... app? site? has been a godsend) and its working impressively smoothly, I'd think it was native if I didn't know otherwise.
I set up a self host version of it late last night. It now runs much more smoothly for me. I do agree it feels almost native at this point :)
hell yeah. I want KIF or LIF
FIF -- Fediverse Is Fun :D
That would he so nice. RiF is delightful. I love it's not about bells and whistles, it was simple looking and the layout was clean and consistent. RIP RiF.
it was so snappy and unbloated. look at the official reddit app or the mobile site. what a pile of garbage
But, but Artemis is for Kbin (for now).
Is that available yet?
+1 to native app, it’s part of what made Apollo great
What do you mean by “join the Wefef developers to make a native app”
Are you saying you wish they would join forces and start or is Wefwef already on it?
I like the look of wefwef a lot, coming from Apollo but I just don’t love web apps for things like this - so a native app from them would be awesome!
With iOS 17, web apps will get more features to make them feel more native. It might be so close that it will be hard to tell the difference between a web-developed native app and a PWA. Wefwef is already really nice and it's mere days old. I can't wait to see where they take it.
One more thing to be excited about for 17!!
Which apps are doing this by the way?
I'm using wefwef right now I'm honestly Impressed!
Same. If this has the same icon as Apollo, I could have been fooled that I was still on Reddit.
Wefwef is absolutely nuts as a PWA, was looking forward to Sync for Lemmy but as a former heavy iOS user this is so cool!
Super excited for Boost!
Really excited about Infinity for Everything! I used Infinity for Reddit and it was hands-down my favorite app. Looks like the Everything version is still pretty early. Will be watching it closely.
How's the infinity port on GitHub? I use infinity for reddit, would be nice to use the same here .
Do you have a link to the infinity for everything repository? I can't seem to find it
Here
This what you're after? https://github.com/everything-gripe/Infinity-for-Everything
I would love to see them bring Sync and/or Boost to iOS with this, but I doubt it. But Wefwef and Memmy are great
The developer of Sync is working on an app right now
For iOS as well?
Nope
Boost is the one I'm looking forward to the most. Highly customizable and highly streamlined
Boost is a legitimately perfect app for the format IMO. I'm so so so glad it's coming over
It reminds me of when I used reddit on my iPhone with Alien Blue. Once I got an andriod phone it's the only app to feel similar enough to that
I love Sync. Looking forward to seeing that one on Lemmy.
Boost was the single app I used to browse Reddit on my phone for years! I can't wait for the new app to be ready
Just added myself to the list to register when it's available. Boost was the only reason I was on Reddit.
Developer of RedReader also said they want to eventually support Lemmy and perhaps tildes and hacker news, even though RedReader got an exemption from the api fees for now. But as a "long-term vision", so probably not immediately.
In addition to the others mentioned, someone is making an unofficial port of Slide.
Hell yeah, it's the best reddit app hands down.
There's an alpha already
I can never click these links, I got a 404 community not found error.
There's a possibility it's your instance. I saw something earlier about instances blocking traffic from other instances.
Sync, Boost are some of the apps I know
this... this.. brings me memories... oh the reddit memories
all of the deleted's
Please RIF, become a fediverse app!
Sadly, it's going to become a Tildes app apparently.
Don't despair though, you can get fairly close with the Connect app with a few settings changes already.
Tbh, it's probably good for multiple devs to go different ways. We don't know which, if any, reddit replacement can take hold. I love rif and the developer behind it, I hope their journey goes well.
I have never heard of tildes until now. Looked it up and man does that ui leave much to be desired. I'm glad I heard of Lemmy first.
I like the minimal UI of Tildes much like I heavily preferred the old reddit page design. It's not fancy but it's very functional, and Tildes is deliberately designed the way it is to discourage low effort content (e.g. no image/video embedding). I go to Tildes for the discussions and I come to Lemmy for the more "fast and loose" atmosphere
That makes a lot of sense. The culture on there is more focused on text based communication which would probably help keep out advertisers since pictures and videos are so heavily relied upon for consumerism. I will see if there are any scripts I can run to make the site more pleasing to my eyes.
On scripts/css, there actually are several discussions about solutions that some site users have developed! I don't have any of them bookmarked but I'd imagine they're findable through tags or via the search function, plus they tend to resurface every few days.
On that note, one interesting thing about Tildes is that threads tend to bump to the top forum style instead of being algorithm-controlled (with a few nuances/caveats). It's just part of the site loop. Additionally, it's run entirely as a non profit, private entity funded by donations. I'd highly recommend reading through the philosophy section in the docs to get a better idea of why the site is the way it is.
It is invite-only though. If you don't have an account already, feel free to DM me for one if you're interested, I've got a few left.
Yeah, currently using connect and reasonably happy with it
Tildes seems nice i just dont know anyone on it so i cant participate myself
honestly, give it a try, everyone there is pretty friendly as long as you're nice to them (and deimos tends to cull the bad ones)
Sync has announced that they are developing for Lemmy and I am so down for it.
Sync is a remarkably well made app, I was delighted to see that announcement
Same. I can't wait.
I gotta admit that I'm a bit disappointed with the owner of Relay for Reddit as he decided to stay and turn it into a subscription model. He might have attached his cart to the wrong horse. That's what I want to believe anyway.
It's probably hard to give up entirely on an app you've been working on for so long.
Won't all nsfw content be invisible to third-party apps?
So people aren't paying to keep reddit alive, they're paying to have some advertiser friendly, bot-ridden husk of reddit available outside the official app.
Those outsized API fees don't even get you the original reddit experience, it's disgusting.
I don't blame the dev, but I also don't understand his decision.
Why not take money from those who want to give?
Baconreader, please become a fediverse app!
That would be amazing
I need this so badly, after over a decade of using baconreader on Reddit my muscle memory needs a similar interface.
Dude I discovered reddit because bacon reader. Hell I didn't even knew there was an official app. I NEED the tile scrolling,it's such a pain to have to go back and scroll to the next post instead of just slide from one to another. Maybe we can send him an email? I know he has like a weather app or something?
I begged the boost dev to make a Lemmy app, I sent him several DMs and made a post about it
I like to think I contributed to his decision
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BOOST IS MAKING A FEDI APP? HELL YEAH
Can't wait for the boost app! I'm new to Lemmy and using desktop only until Boost is ready.
Which apps are specifically turning into fediverse apps? Very curious.
Sync and Boost officially are.
Infinity for Everything (Fediverse) is on GitHub.
wefwef and Memmy are starting to feel like Apollo already.
Connect seems to be inching closer to Relay with each update, and Jerboa gives off RiF vibes.
People need to post about this on reddit more to perhaps encourage the other devs to do the same; might've actually worked for Boost cuz the dev didn't originally plan to port it to Lemmy it seems
Jerboa is crashing for me on start, which isn't a great sign. I just want Boost already!
Probably because blahaj is on 0.17.4, and Jerboa only supports 0.18 and later right now.
Use wefwef or Thunder. And Connect and Liftoff are on the playstore already.
Blahaj just updated!
Jerboa is so incredibly buggy right now though, that it barely worked for me at all. I just switched to Liftoff. It also has its fair share of bugs but at least functions almost reliably.
I have the same problem, maybe some instances need to update.
I am on liftoff right now, which does not let me post on lemmy.world but maybe it will after they update.
I am on connect now and the similarities with relay is why
I've been test driving android apps for lemmy for hours now and it's been fun but I'd love to see one with a RIF UX. Any chance we can convince Andy to develop RIF for lemmy?
I need a RiF Lemmy badly.
Connect is quite close https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kuroneko.lemmy_connect
I prefer liftoff but I have liked all the apps so far for different reasons.
Secondly the recommendation for Connect. I put it right where RIF used to be and it's been working like a charm.
Lif?
FIFE
He's doing one for Tildes apparently but I'd love to see one for Lemmy
I know Boost is going to become a Lemmy app. You can even "preorder" it on the playstore and itll download on your device as soon as its released.
Wait Boost is becoming a Lemmy app? You got any more info?
Yes, here's a link for you: https://lemmy.world/post/872278. /c/[email protected] is the new community for it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy
Thanks for the link, preordered it just now
Sync is, and I'd be surprised if we don't get a fedi fork of Infinity and the other open-source reddit apps at some point!
Are there any kbin apps for Android?
Not yet, but they are on the way.
In the meantime the kbin mobile site works well as a PWA, even better if you install these scripts:
https://kbin.social/m/kbinStyles/t/27201/kbin-enhancement-script-QOL-updates-for-the-kbin-UI
https://kbin.social/m/kbinStyles/t/105421/Kbin-Usability-Pack-0-2-2-Now-with-settings
Easy to do with Fennec
PWA really works for me.
No API access yet IIRC, but there is @ArtemisApp being worked on.
Artemis in closed beta. Many apps are only developed for lemmy unfortunately
The kbin api isn't finished. Once it is I bet it will get apps quickly.
They'll jump if they want to. If it's any consolation, the dev for Boost (my Reddit app of choice before everything went down like it did) announced that he was going to make a Boost for Lemmy after commenting that he wouldn't. Perhaps the Infinity dev will come to a similar conclusion?
Infinity dev 200% should, I think I heard they wanted to move on to beginner level it for some reason and wonder why they even should when there are riches to be made running a free app with donations
I've used Stealth client andits's still working on reddit, crossing my fingers
Stealth never has had account integrations because its only a reddit viewer, and I think recently its also switched over to just web scraping old.reddit.com
Most likely this won't work forever - just like fritter (open source twitter reader) they will patch the scraping into oblivion
I guess it is stealthy..
I would love a stealth lemmy client
An app is making the difference for me between Lemmy & Squabbles. Squabbles via an app is looking very much like Reddit, but Lemmy has the numbers, I believe.
Also, and this is a little annoying, but I hate the name and icon of Squabbles. Makes it seems like it’s a platform to argue, not be a community.
Hopefully it attracts all the arguers then...
discord has left the chat
Liftoff is great so far! Super excited for Sync to convert over to Lemmy
There are so many lemmy apps now. You've tried wefwef.app?
Yeah some of the app devs are going to implement support for lemmy while also continuing to support reddit.
Looking at this from a business perspective, I think that would be the smartest move. When a business partner unilaterally jacks up the price, while it might feel satisfying to tell them to go fuck themselves, it's probably not the smartest move. The smart move is to continue doing business while making partnerships with others just in case the asshole partner jacks up the price again.
I think it might be a thing where these apps will use lemmy for the free version while offering reddit for a subscription. If this is the case, we'll see a gradual increase of users on lemmy with a gradual decline of users on reddit. Older people who stubbornly stick to reddit will pay the subscription, while younger people that can't afford a subscription to reddit (and have no attachment to it anyway) will use the free versions and use lemmy.
So when do we get our own the narwhal bacons at midnight
Some things should stay dead
We have the no pooping for three days thing, which frankly is better
I'm still pretty sure whoever came up with that was a troll and was trying to get that person that was posting from the airport to embarrass themself in public
Are there any examples of this happening?
There are; I can think of one specifically. Sync for Reddit is becoming Sync for Lemmy, it's under development.
Also Boost for Lemmy.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy
This makes me happy. I really loved Boost and was sad to see it go.
Live to see it. :)