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4 days before reddit's 3rd party app shutdown, Lemmy daily active users has skyrocketed 1400% this month

From 3000 daily active users on June 1, 2023 to 47500 on June 26, 2023.

According to Lemmy's documentation, "An active user is someone who has posted or commented on our instance or community within the last given time frame."

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EDIT: check out this link for a list of lemmy apps: https://lemmy.world/post/465785

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It is very clear that new content per day has been steadily increasing the past 14 days.

Lemmy is no longer just promising, it is already good. With signs of getting even better.

With more active users, more niche communities should soon be able to do fine too.

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i opened up this thread with the intention of doing just that— glad to see i’m not the only one lol

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I don’t think I have commented yet either; I’m still learning the ropes

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lemmy.world

I think it shows that the great migration from Reddit is actually happening. After the 1st of July, we can expect to see Lemmy growing even more since the changes on Reddit are gonna be in full effect.

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Agreed. I imagine the devs and admins here are looking at it as a bit of a deadline of sorts. It's going to be a big bump in traffic, best to have as much as you can in place.

If you can have useable app out by then, you'll get a big sudden surge in interest. It's just a really nice opportunity for an aspiring dev.

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theGimpboyreply
lemmy.world

I'm really trying, the main thing I miss is the amount of content and the general navigability of reddit. Finding new subs was so easy and lemmy feels harder to just browse imo. I've moved to the lemmy RSS and deleted my reddit bookmarks to help keep me from going there out of weakness though.

We'll see to what degree the migration stays/works. I would be very happy to see some competition in this space.

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hydrareply
lemmy.world

It is a bit harder due to fragmentation but it will get better, don't worry. Also plenty of new upcoming apps.

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Replying from connect for Lemmy, that just got approved on the play store. Not sure if it'll be my endgame app but looks snazzy enough. I look forward to trying a few different ones, and to seeing the general functionality get better around here.

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I think it's going to be rough for sometime but the numbers seem promising thus far.

Particularly when compared to any other reddit alterative.

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PorkTacoreply
sh.itjust.works

This is great and exciting news, but we do need to keep things in perspective. Jumping to almost 48,000 daily active users is great, but Reddit has about 55 million. That's essentially a rounding error as far as Reddit is concerned.

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SSTFreply
lemmy.world

People keep wishing death upon Reddit. I understand the emotion, but I wish Reddit a long life. Let it be the grease trap for doomscrollers, reposters, and political and corporate infiltration. I don’t want millions of people to join Lemmy. I want the mythical 1% active content creators to jump ship.

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Yeah, Reddit and 4chan can be containment cesspits while quality discussion moves to Fedi.

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

I don't really see a problem with this. We already have enough that I can comment an engage with people. I can already ask a question and have 50 people give genuine thought out responses.

That's enough for me.

We're only on v0.18, some are not going to want a less refine product and that's okay. We're here building the momentum for when it's read for them.

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I don't disagree necessarily, I just think anyone expecting a mass migration should temper their expectations.

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I'm curious what the make up of people migrating are. It could be the early adopters that helped Reddit build out the platform ahead of Digg collapsing. It could also be people who were looking for an excuse to leave because they didn't really like Reddit for one reason or another. I think I fall more in the fed up with Reddit and looking for anyone/anywhere doing it better.

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I won't use the official Reddit app, so my phone Reddit usage will drop to zero on July 1st.

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As soon as Lemmy gets a proper fully working app, like sync, it will be gangbusters.

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Oh so lurkers aren't counted as active? That's even promising since many users on any site never comment or post.

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Worth noting we probably have a much higher engagement percentage than the average atm. Young community, cool new idea, gets people excited. Since the service isn't really ready for primetime yet, the only way to really pitch in and even just vent enthusiasm is to make content. For most of us that don't have dev skills anyway.

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Even if you do nothing else, make sure to upvote content and comments, and subscribe to communities. Bringing content over from reddit (or even just googling stuff) to the new applicable community would be extra helpful (a lot of empty communities at the moment).

Things keep looking better here, so I'm optimistic about lemmy.

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There will probably be another bump on July 1st, and probably more to come as Reddit makes more horrible decisions going forward.

100% honestly, I'm not married to the whole concept of the Fediverse - I think it's interesting and solves some problems plaguing modern social media, but has other issues of its own - but Lemmy has, overall, put out a good showing in the various instances' content so far. So here I am with an account and actively posting. Looking forward to continued growth!

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Thank you for showing the growth in ACTIVE users, not just accounts. Its still impressive, and more truthful!

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I've been mostly a lurker on Reddit for the past 10 years but something about Lemmy just makes me want to engage in the community more than reddit ever has. Also it's incredibly impressive how quickly lemmy improved over the last weeks.

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lemmy.world

Just been lurking until now but I guess we can +1 that active user count. Just waiting for sync to add a lemmy app and then it's full steam ahead.

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lemmy.world

Sync is reddit to me, so when it goes down I can't see myself going back. I set up a Lemmy account yesterday and am impressed so far knowing it's still in the early stages. I'm excited to see what LJ can do with Lemmy.

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lemmy.world

this keeps getting touted but isn’t it a huge number of bots causing the rise?

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kbin.social

This is just really disappointing and gross. Is there any way to not have bots absolutely everywhere?

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My (different person here) take is it's probing behavior. Who benefits? Anti-reddit-protest trolls want to see this fail, and some could have the resources. Savvy criminal organizations see potential profit. Major tech companies see at least a research opportunity at minimal expense. White hats want to find and raise awareness of vulnerabilities.

Only governments would really have no major motive beyond the usual surveillance of a social space. So I think the question should really be, who's not doing it? Because if people aren't wholesale fucking around yet, they'll start very soon. It's only the savvy or lucky that are aware of us still, but that will not be true for long. Snowball is rolling now, that's pretty plain to see.

I mean, we're just a big and growing pile of consumers. What else do you do with those?

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I hope there's some way to block that, bots are useful or funny sometimes (like the ones to download videos, reminders, etc). But I asume most of them have the sole purpose of advertising or brigading.

I can't wrap my head about Lemmy 0.18 dropping capchas.

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Which is a shame, because in theory it seems like creating a self-hosted instance for your personal account has a lot of advantages (not worrying about the host doing something screwy or abandoning the instance, having full control over who you federate with, being able to customize the interface, etc.)

But that may end up going the way of self-hosted email servers, where differentiating yourself from a spam server becomes impossible and everyone ends up on the equivalent of gmail.

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If we have the ability to identify them or where they're coming from, could our various platforms just defederate or block the ones who aren't dealing with the bot problem down the line?

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kbin.social

I don't see how that could be done, the bot owners can always just spin up their own new instance where they control sign up requirements.

Other instances can then defederate from the spam instance but they can quickly spin up a new one.

Gonna be interesting to see how it's solved.

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kbin.social

The fediverse is decentralized, anyone can start their own lemmy/kbin/mastodon/whatever server and make an account they just approve themselves.

If you mean some kind of global approval then that destroys the whole point of the fediverse.

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Just throwing out ideas.

If the Fediverse cannot control the bots then where does that leave actual users?

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ahoyreply
sh.itjust.works

wait how did we conclude that the bots aren't active yet?

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My understanding is that's causing the rise in accounts (2.5m!) not the active accounts data

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Naminrebreply
kbin.social

If they’re like NewsUser and Botittest, the bots will flood this place when they start. Even though these two good bots have made this place a lot more usable, it feels like that’s what the “All” thread has become. Just news.

Don’t get me wrong, I like the news feed, but now I understand why it became a separate thread in Reddit.

Whichever the instances that lowered their guard were, there will be a day they will have to be defederated. It’ll be a test for this place, for sure.

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Nepenthereply
kbin.social

Don’t get me wrong, I like the news feed, but now I understand why it became a separate thread in Reddit.

Same boat as you. It was your comment that made me realize the one filling my feed with nothing but news was all only linkbot and when I blocked it out of curiosity, I could see memes and user posts again. It was posting so often it was literally drowning out every other subject.

I think it's nice to keep up with news on a platform that doesn't seem so US-centric and full of vitriol, and I'll be sad to see it go. Might turn the block on and off. But I'm already subbed to a news community.

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Dumb question (new to Lemmy) but how does one block bots from feed? Isn't that up to the community the post originated from?

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I already blocked Lemmit from appearing on my feed, but there should be an option to block posts from certain instances from appearing in your feed at all. I really hope we get to fight the bot problem without losing the advantages of federation.

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lemmy.world

The site has felt way more usable in the last week, too. Haven't had much time to contribute myself, but I was browsing Active last night and thought to myself "hey, this feels just like the Reddit I know and love"

Once the niche communities take the plunge, its endgame for Reddit

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w3lpreply
lemmy.world

I came here from r/sourdough so.... getting there

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colonialreply
lemmy.world

Was not expecting that sub to have 410k members.

Then again, sourdough is great, so I really shouldn't be surprised.

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Post your ass off to keep it alive. Shitpost whenever you can.

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So active users doesn't include users who are only browsing/voting on posts? If so that's even more impressive.

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vtez44reply
kbin.social

I doubt many people will move. Most people will just start using the official app or move to another website. Lemmy doesn't have much content (yet), and that's yet worse than not having a good app. They will just quick look and go back, if even.

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Snecksterreply
lemmy.world

At this point content is definitely needed more than users. I really to stick with lemmy but the content just isn't here... Like you said (yet)

Those Reddit echo bots are really starting to annoy me now too.

I'm still hopeful though, I don't want to go back to Reddit

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lemmy.world

I rarely posted content on reddit, but I engaged a lot.

I realized that once I got here, I needed to post content if I wanted to encourage others to do the same.

We need both content and engagement. Engagement drives the content, it's a feedback loop.

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Yeah same. I'm a commenter at heart. But, writing is a skill, so it translates into a few things I can post about that might be of value to others.

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Just post content even if you mirror some from reddit from your favorite communitys just post and others will start.

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lemmy.world

I'm currently using Jerboa on android. Anything stand out that Thunder or Summit do better that's worth me taking a look at?

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Mostly the interface. I think it's more a preference thing than an objective aspect

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Hadn't heard of Liftoff, will have to try it out. I'm using Jerboa right now and although a little bit buggy while scrolling it does the job. It's also pretty similar in terms of looks to RiF, which is what I was using until all this mess and it helps a little in the transition. Thanks for recommending!

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That is correct. You would be counted in the next time they run the stats for this instance.

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Found my way here as part of the Grand Reddit Migration. Applying for refugee status please. (1st day on Lemmy, looks good gotta say)

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lemmy.ml

This seems like very important information worth sharing in general but also wherever these stats are posted including in the software itself (via (?) or tooltip).

It also means that the real number of active users, which includes lurkers, is actually higher.

I still think the majority of registered users are bots though. I don't think we have actually have 2,000,000 people on here.

What's a good estimate of lurkers? 10% of actives? 200% of actives?

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I'm a little bit of a lurker yes. I comment when I think I can add something to the discussion, but I usually like to read more than I contribute unfortunately.

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No one is in disagreement that bots are the majority of registered users.

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Usually places like this follow a 90-9-1 rule (though this will be skewed for now as all the people moving here from reddit are more likely to be in reddits 10%):

90% lurk/simply view 9% participate (vote, etc) 1% create (effort posts, OP, etc).

If we follow this then the actual non-bot number is closer to 400k than 2 million. As I said above though, currently it's skewed.

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s38b35M5reply
lemmy.world

If it's anything like /r/, it likely follows the 90/9/1 lurk/comment/post rule, or will, once the novelty wear soff and things settle.

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Indeed. However, the first group of users is about always the most active, so we probably have a little bit before we lock into 90/9/1.

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+1. Bye Reddit. Hello Lemmy! Struggling a bit to find my way around. Excited to find so many people willing to contribute to make Lemmy their new home. Feels good to be here.

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lemmy.world

To be honest, i am using reddit via Apollo and lemmy but as soon as that shuts down im transitioning to lemmy full time.

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I'm on some cracked official Reddit app that has the ads fully removed. I am not sure if it will still work afterwards but switching to Lemmy anyway.

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I'm using old.reddit and once they get rid of that I'm gone!

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This feels great. The posts right now seem a lot more genuine compared to reddit lately. Keep it up!

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I've just registered, read this last night and had to comment just to be a part of it. Happy to find a really good alternative.

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Didn't initially like the look of lemmy and tried Kbin, but kbin randomly was slow and has no way to hide posts. Lemmy seems snappier and more concise...hoping to find some ability to hide content if you upvote it. I love clearing my feeds up once i've seen content once.

edit: I see there's a hide read option in settings! What constitutes a read post on a desktop PC? Opening comments? simply scrolling past it? Interesting...

edit 2: ohhhh shit, opening comments AND it hides on upvote - fuck yes, well i'm here to stay then.

Cheers!

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And with all the apps pooping every 3 days it's getting even better!

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I’ve been lurking and trying to figure it all out so I’m not part of that stat so I’d imagine there are lots of folks like me. I’m not super active on Reddit but not having Apollo means I have to lurk somewhere else.

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Upvoting/Downvoting/Subscribing should count as active too. (From a lurker)

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Man, I knew I made the right decision to promote "Barbie" on this Lemonworld thing instead of reddit.

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This is great news for Lemmy, let's hope that community grows even larger, as more users leave reddit.

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That expression sounds familiar. Where might I have heard it before? :D

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Instead of deleting my Reddit account, I'm replacing all my comments there with, "edit: //I've moved to Lemmy //"

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Just realised I have not replied to anything yet, so using this thread to check it works.

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Lemmy looked a bit complex, coming from Reddit, with the great app Sync for Reddit, but I like it here so far. Hoping Sync for Lemmy will soon be there!

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I am so glad that I am part of this project. Keep it up!

PS: I am here from Reddit. 💪

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Fediverse social seem a thousand percent more chill and make me 100 percent less stressed and depressed than non fediverse social.

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lemmy.world

we are going to the moon boiss. let's fuckking go

🚀 🌕

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I'm only one person but I never returned to Reddit after the blackout. They could do a complete u-turn and even make sp*z that little fucker walk the plank but I would still be done with that place.

I am really excited to see the community we build from here on out.

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This is good and I hope the migration continues. The only way to truly fight back against Reddit isn't making subreddits go dark or posting John Oliver memes but rather just quietly leaving, deleting our accounts, and taking our content and energy elsewhere. That will truly destroy Reddit because without user generated content, it is nothing.

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Hope Lemmy grows at a steady pace so the resources can keep up. It's amazing it's handeling this amount of Traffic already.

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lemmy.world

The numbers have to be higher. I've been lurking so far without commenting. I Imagin a lot of other people have been too.

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100% they are higher. I too have been just a lurker so far so I guess I'll make my first comment now to add to the stats :)

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I wanted to join lemmy 2 years ago but it was strict and my appeal got rejected. Now in ya face

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It'll definitely be better than Reddit. Reddit has honestly gotten pretty terrible in the last few years. Fediverse may have its flaws but it's still better than what Reddit has become (and ultimately what Reddit's for-profit wannabes will become).

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have been loving it so far, the jerboa app is either a bit buggy or this instance is having troubles

wishing sync devs could eventually adapt for lemmy, as i really liked the ui

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Had to restart my instance so I'm commenting here to make sure I add to the active user count. Looking good, Lemmy! Let's hope we can keep this momentum going into the next month (and beyond)!

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I'm here from reddit, too, so the number just went up one more.

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Deleted my Reddit account yesterday. Feels bad since I used Reddit in lieu of Facebook and Twitter, and it always seemed like a better place... but time moves on and so do I.

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It’s so exciting watching these new communities pop up on here!

Also, shoutout to all the devs working on cool Lemmy apps like Memmy, Mlem, Liftoff and wefwef. My week has been pretty entertaining checking these out!

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When I first signed up two weeks ago, the highest-voted posts might have had about 20 upvotes. Now I am regularly seeing posts in the hundreds. It makes me wonder what the first post to reach 1000 upvotes will be?

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using lemmy this past week or so just lurking gives me some hope for the future of the internet during a particularly bleak part of a general decline… i’m so happy to be here. let’s make this work!

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Hi guys just made an account and deleted the Reddit app (after giving up hope and deleting Apollo). Guess this is where I’m hanging out now

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kbin.social

@MicroWave I had never heard of the Fediverse or kbin before the protests on Reddit. I’m really hoping this all takes off. I’ve been enjoying my time here so far.

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and I'll be the first one to say it because either people don't want to talk about it or they just don't think about it

SUPPORT YOUR INSTANCE .... SUPPORT YOUR OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE

It doesn't matter who you are on ... lemmy, kbin, mastodon or anyone else ... find your instance owner and see if they are looking for donations or subscriptions and sign up for them

Sure the only way we can protect this new system is by keeping it federated, open and decentralized ... but it all only works if small groups of people pay for the basic hardware services and rental services and any other services out there to keep it all running ... yes the costs are minimal for small instances but those costs only add up as their instance becomes more popular.

Supporting your instance means it will stay protected ... if you burn out your instance owners or they run into financial trouble .. then your instance will start more risks including being shut down or sold to someone else

And it doesn't take much to support these guys ... if we all just gave a dollar a month, it would be more than enough to support them.

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I too am a refugee and hope that the communities I enjoyed before grow & thrive here too

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I think Lemmy's Fediverse is harder to censor as well? They have a sprawl of domains that can federate to censored ones.

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This is just speculation but I think there will be a wave of users in july and it will come in waves as reddit becomes worse and worse more people will eventually migrate.

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Yep the users that still scour the subreddits using 3rd party apps will have to leave too or live with old.reddit for its remaining days

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Blocked reddit in my hostfile start of June. Found lemmy today and registered. Hope this place takes off.

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Incredible. I'm posting content and comments here more than I was doing over there. Together we can do this!

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Glad to be here, July 1st, probably the most biggest wave of users for this platform

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Anyone got a tutorial on deleting reddit comments and accounts?

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Hoping that Lemmy grows and is a viable alternative to Reddit. Honestly just looking at lemmy.world and all of the activity and communities, it appears to already hit that mark!

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Does this metric include all federated instances, including Kbin, or is this just lemmyy.world ?

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Active user here I come. Never had a Reddit account to start with so I’m totally into a new experience as well.

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Came over 7 days ago. Really enjoying the vibe and conversations here. Truly feels like the reddit of old days so far. Thank you all for making this thing great!

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I'm happy to be here. Lemmy seems like a good place so far. I'm not sure if it will take off in the long term (I think a lot of people don't "get" the whole federated thing, just like with Mastodon), but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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Let's goooo! Feeling like refugees fleeing war and finding a new home, far from conflict.

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I'm a little tired of these threads, but bless you for actually citing "active users" instead of the bullshit bot-infested "total users" metric.

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Happy to be one of them and be contributing to a ton of communities, apps, and teams that im sure will help make this a successful and less centralized set of communities!

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I've been here around a week, came over from Reddit of course. I'm still hanging around over there, because I enjoy watching dumpster fires, but I've been pretty active voting and commenting here.

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@MicroWave posts bring back that era of exponentially spending more and more time looking at graphs back when the pandemic was on fire hahah

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I'm being rate limited by Reddit about 1 hour after posting a post staying that my post was in protest of the upcoming API changes.

Also, I requested my data 2 days ago, but for not get rate limited until directly after my post.

I've never had this happen to me before. Anyone else care to try and duplicate... For science?##

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Hopefully improvements to scalability are received soon. Federation seems to be suffering a lot unless you are a local user on a big instance.

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Baconreader stopped working last week, so I took the time on the weekend to set this up... Very happy with the experience so far (don't even need an app, using it in Firefox on mobile and saving it as an app is the perfect experience)

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My heart is broken at the loss of Apollo and other apps. Not sure I'm quite ready to give up on Reddit entirely but my usage of it will take a massive nosedive that's for sure.

Happy that it's given me the push I needed to check out Lemmy though, so thought I'd add to the active numbers with this comment.

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I hope that the shutdown brings as many people here as possible, we need more people.

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coeus.sbs

It will be interesting if there will be a noticable increase starting in July.

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I just joined today. Without mods on Reddit, a lot of the subs have been filled with bots or turned into cesspools.

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Image Transcription: Line Graph


[A line graph is shown depicting the number of users on Lemmy over one month's time. The horizontal axis lists the date of each reading, with an interval shown for every day. The earliest date begins at '2023-05-28' and the most recent date is given as '2023-06-26'. The vertical axis measures the number of users, with intervals marked at every 5,000 users, with an upper limit of 50,000 users. There is a green trend like and a blue trend line graphed from plot points at every horizontal interval. The green line is labelled 'Active users monthly' shows increase over time. The line remains flat at approximately 1,000 users from the '05-28' date mark to the '05-31' mark, then begins to gradually increase to approximately 10,000 users, starting to show a trend similar to the beginning of an exponential growth curve. At the '06-11' date mark, the line begins increasing at a relatively steady rate, with the last marked date showing just over 45,000 users. There are two points in which the line shows an apparent indication of levelling off in user count, before then showing a sudden increase in users again, with neither of these points significantly impacting the overall upward trend. These points are at the dates '06-16' and '06-21'. The second graphed line, the blue line, is labelled 'Active Users Half year' and starts at approximately 3,000 users, but follows an almost identical trend shape as the green line as it increases approximately parallel to it. The blue line ends at around 48,000 users at the final graphed point.]


^I'm a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

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Even if that continues the next 5 days in a row. that's no big deal for reddit. it's barely a fraction of a percent of reddits userbase. Spez couldn't care less i thinks. the only thing that would probably hurt reddit is if everybody deletes all their conten and accounts. and it would need to be a much larger scale. nothing will change. never underestimate the lazynes and unwillingness to change of people.

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kbin.social

Anybody knows if this counts kbin users as well?

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mizzycreply
kbin.social

So, just to understand it better: Lemmy counts only accounts registered at Lemmy's instances? It wouldn't count count me as an user (even commenting at Lemmy's communities) because my account is from Kbin, that's right?

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oh that's good news, means the threadiverse has even more active users :D

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I'm not sure where I will be moving forward, but I would say more likely that not it will not be on Reddit. That much I do know. I will still use Reddit on occasion, but the sense of community is mostly gone for me.

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You're saying this like it's a bad thing! Also, here's to hoping it will grow!

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All it takes is a push to make owning your own server rather than working on someone else's server more attractive.

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Can anyone help with where I can find general information about Lemmy? What it's about, site rules, etc. I'm struggling to find something on my app. Thanks!

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Its good, we need open source alternatives to these corporations. It has become a joke to try to monetize every single thing.

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~~Most are bots though

Many instances have over 40k total users but only 10 people or so active

I think about 250k is the number of real people (still very impressive)~~

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sudneoreply
lemmy.world

That's why the post used active users as a metric. From 3000 to 50000 is still quite a leap. I am actually not necessarily looking forward to 100millions users. A few thousands interesting/ed people in a given community is way more than enough.

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reddit mods are the scum of the earth. hopefully this site doesn't head down the same route. Really excited to see how this turns out

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