Piefed (though I also generally like Mbin). However, I haven't used lemmy since the old version with autorefresh and such so I'm not sure. I also just use it in the browser with no separate client/frontend.
I've engaged in this debate in the past. Even started some threads and caused accidental fires. I'm not doing that anymore. It's unhealthy for the threadiverse. Just pick and use what you like. If you don't like it anymore, switch to something else. If it speaks ActivityPub, it's all good. We need more fediversing, more decentralization and less drama.
Lemmy all the way. PieFed is cool in some of its features, but the way Rimu makes heavy-handed decisions without properly getting community input is insulting and reeks of everything I left centralized Web for.
I keep PyLova in sight, but for now, Lemmy serves me well.
I mean, the Lemmy devs are easily just as bad. Just try to have a political discussion on .ml while not being a scum sucking tankie. I would be negative levels of shocked if it turned out they added something like a global shadowban list or other similarly shit moves other fedi devs have made.
For all we know, Lemmy does not have that, though.
It's one thing to spread your views through the developer's instance and ideologically police it (not great, but eh, users can just block .ml), it's another thing to bake your bias into code and make it affect every single instance. Besides, PieFed makes other, non-political controversial changes, too.
I left lemmy to move to piefed after disagreeing with lemmy’s developers moderation practices and finding out a portion of the donations go to keep .ml running.
A lot of the big differences are in the community moderation and instance admin side of things. If you use a client app that does both Lemmy and PieFed then using your new PieFed account would feel exactly the same. So for the average phone app user there's not much reason to switch.
The admin and mod tools being so much better does mean that PieFed communities and instances have the potential to be run much better, in theory.
I think of Piefed as a Lemmy client. Like in the same way that mIRC and HexChat are IRC clients. Different look, feel and some difference in features but the core is the same.
And I'll do it again while kicking my feet and rubbing my belly! (Only love, just the absurdity of it reading without understanding it till I read about the fediverse)
Lemmy. My instance has alternative UIs linked in the sidebar that allow my feed to look reasonable instead of like a modern social media ui designed for dark patterns
I switched from Lemmy to PieFed a few months ago bc I really like the combined comment streams and hiding posts based on keywords (and the HPT-Fruits theme), but I'm eagerly waiting for PyLova to gain more traction, as it seems to address quite a few pain points of PieFed.
I prefer sticking to large instances, that's why I was on lemmy.world and now piefed.world. I know some user settings are portable, but I want to be convinced of a server's longevity before I switch.
Well, not really. Kind of misinterpreted your message before having my coffee and responded without thinking. Anyway, I'm pissed off about the bots that try to discourage US voting and it leaks to all my Lemmy comments.
guy at no kinds came with an anti dnc sign and talked to folk about how hes part of making a new party so like not even going with an established 3rd like greens. Felt like the xkdc with making a new spec that meets all usecases. He did not talk to me unfortunately.
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Piefed (though I also generally like Mbin). However, I haven't used lemmy since the old version with autorefresh and such so I'm not sure. I also just use it in the browser with no separate client/frontend.
I use summit so either looks the same, and Lemmy is rust while piefed is python so... The faster one.
I've engaged in this debate in the past. Even started some threads and caused accidental fires. I'm not doing that anymore. It's unhealthy for the threadiverse. Just pick and use what you like. If you don't like it anymore, switch to something else. If it speaks ActivityPub, it's all good. We need more fediversing, more decentralization and less drama.
Lemmy all the way. PieFed is cool in some of its features, but the way Rimu makes heavy-handed decisions without properly getting community input is insulting and reeks of everything I left centralized Web for.
I keep PyLova in sight, but for now, Lemmy serves me well.
I miss pugjesus and all the cool history stuff he posted 😭
Me too, me too
I mean, the Lemmy devs are easily just as bad. Just try to have a political discussion on .ml while not being a scum sucking tankie. I would be negative levels of shocked if it turned out they added something like a global shadowban list or other similarly shit moves other fedi devs have made.
For all we know, Lemmy does not have that, though.
It's one thing to spread your views through the developer's instance and ideologically police it (not great, but eh, users can just block .ml), it's another thing to bake your bias into code and make it affect every single instance. Besides, PieFed makes other, non-political controversial changes, too.
Oh yes, I didn't mean to defend piefed with that. Just point out how this place isn't exactly heaven vs the hell of Reddit.
This part is very true
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I left lemmy to move to piefed after disagreeing with lemmy’s developers moderation practices and finding out a portion of the donations go to keep .ml running.
Same. Fuck .world.
What about my .world?
They support .ml
Yet you are still contributing to the Lemmy network, the same way you did before
it's not the lemmy network, it's the fediverse
Call lemmy.world communities the fediverse if you want, it's still Lemmy infrastructure
I'm still swearing by MBin.
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
I prefer the funny people living in the Voyager app.
I feel seen!
PieFed because it has more features and integrates better with Mastodon users.
I use a mobile app, so it really doesnt matter to me. Lemmy frontend is a bit shit though
I prefer anyone that doesn’t support the tankie triad.
Mbin. Neither Lemmy nor Piefed appeal to me.
i much prefer lemmy and i'm banned from piefed.social because the developer is extremely thin skinned so i'm not really interested their echo chamber
Is still don't have an idea what the difference is. I feel like it sounds too samesies to switch.
https://join.piefed.social/features/
A lot of the big differences are in the community moderation and instance admin side of things. If you use a client app that does both Lemmy and PieFed then using your new PieFed account would feel exactly the same. So for the average phone app user there's not much reason to switch.
The admin and mod tools being so much better does mean that PieFed communities and instances have the potential to be run much better, in theory.
I think of Piefed as a Lemmy client. Like in the same way that mIRC and HexChat are IRC clients. Different look, feel and some difference in features but the core is the same.
Piefed.
The choices are confusing. I'll remain where I am until I stumble over a reason to switch.
Can I just say, as someone new to any of this you all sound like a bunch of absolute loons. It's like you're arguing over your favorite tarts flavors.
“I walked into a tart shop and condescended to people who discuss tarts”
And I'll do it again while kicking my feet and rubbing my belly! (Only love, just the absurdity of it reading without understanding it till I read about the fediverse)
Buttertart and anyone who says otherwise is a dumbass and wrong.
Ooh, but a Cream Cheese tart is heaven 🤤😋
Mbin >
Pylova personally, but my client isn't quite there with Piefed support yet, and I can't be bothered changing clients right now.
lemmy because it has the old.reddit style frontend (mlmym)
Lemmy. I dislike the tech stacks of piefed and mbin.
Lemmy. My instance has alternative UIs linked in the sidebar that allow my feed to look reasonable instead of like a modern social media ui designed for dark patterns
I switched from Lemmy to PieFed a few months ago bc I really like the combined comment streams and hiding posts based on keywords (and the HPT-Fruits theme), but I'm eagerly waiting for PyLova to gain more traction, as it seems to address quite a few pain points of PieFed.
whats pylova got? if I can block by the number of characters in the body of a post I might move over.
They added a bunch of QoL options and bug/annoyance fixes compared to PieFed and Lemmy, some examples are in the v0.30 and v0.3.2 release posts, but you can see more at https://lemmyverse.link/c/[email protected]
Not sure if it has that feature you want though, but the developer is very responsive to user requests.
Why not just jump onto a pylova instance then?
I prefer sticking to large instances, that's why I was on lemmy.world and now piefed.world. I know some user settings are portable, but I want to be convinced of a server's longevity before I switch.
I checked out http://joinpylova.org/instances.html earlier today, but none of the 3 seems appealing.
next day edit: actually, fuck it, I'm gonna try out quokk.au :)
Piefed because the software has a ton of awesome features and the dev is very responsive.
Lemmy has completely stagnated. They raised enough money for 2 full time devs and pretty much nothing has changed in the past 2 years.
I like piefed because it was actively improving with neat things. when I first came I was on kbin for a similar reason.
I haven't used Piefed so I can't say. However, what I can say is that place seems to attract more than their fair share of obnoxious users.
At your service.
DoN't VoTe FoR dEmOcRaTs! BoTh SiDeS aRe ThE sAmE!!!1
Edit: wait, that's also lemmy. Especially Lemmy. Nevermind.
Edit2: Bloody Lemmy users, they ruined Lemmy.
Responding to wrong message perhaps?
Well, not really. Kind of misinterpreted your message before having my coffee and responded without thinking. Anyway, I'm pissed off about the bots that try to discourage US voting and it leaks to all my Lemmy comments.
guy at no kinds came with an anti dnc sign and talked to folk about how hes part of making a new party so like not even going with an established 3rd like greens. Felt like the xkdc with making a new spec that meets all usecases. He did not talk to me unfortunately.
My comment has absolutely nothing to do with USA or voting though. Zero.
Piefed has better features, but lemmy is less ideaological
Lemmy, but for the same reasons you left lol
I left it because I wanted to try something new.