It's funny because we seem to retroactively assign the term to ancient military tactics. I doubt they called it kiting. They'd probably call it ĂRGĂLŸK, and every Mongolian worth their salt would know how to perform flawless ĂRGĂLŸK.
Yeah i wasnt trying to say that word kiting was old, but for sure the action is old. Im there are predator animals that do it with poison or exhausting their prey before going in for the kill.
...lol I'm trying to decide if you're informing me that kites predate video games, but also I find it hard to believe that you didn't know what a kite was until you played video games.
I looked up the etymology on "kite", and it's quite interesting. Apparently, its original use was to describe a hawk whose call sounds kind of like "kite". Then it was used more generally to describe all birds in that family.
The kite toy was named after the bird, because the bird tended to try to sit on some wind while hunting, so it was basically hovering like a toy kite.
The action of leading an enemy around is named after the toy kite, because a kite in flight is always the length of the string away from the person flying the kite. So, like if you tried to run from the kite, it would always be the same distance away chasing you. You're leading the kite around on a string. And so you would kite an enemy in the same sense.
So wait....I was joking, but you're literally saying that "kiting" before video games is just from actual kites. Lol like no shit, why did I get downvoted?
Because the term is from video games, meaning to lead an enemy around as if they were a kite that you are holding. Nobody is saying kites are older. And yes, you can say "let's go kiting" and mean playing with toy kites in a field, but that is not the definition of the word that is being discussed here. The guy kited the cop in the way that your marine would kite a zergling, not the way a kid would fly a kite at the park.
Or he was able to power through it. Depending on spice tolerance, some might see it as more of an unpleasant condiment than a weapon. He might have biked a couple blocks away and found a place to cry in peace once the adrenaline wore off.
To be fair, biking uses different muscles from running so if the cop is not a cyclist (and doesn't use stairs for training since stairs are a very similar set of muscles to cycling) the suspect just has to stay out of reach for about half a mile, which for anyone who cycles regularly should be pretty easy to do
You have just made me realise that I am an incompetent runner in my dreams. Like I'm trying to run through jelly. Not saying I'm a good runner by any means, but not as bad as I am in my dreams.
I once told somebody about a recurring dream I have where I canât control the speed of my car. Apparently your brain is fully aware that your legs arenât responding to commands and it translates into your dreams.
In your case, not being able to run because your sleep cycle is deliberately paralysing your legs
I can't steer the car in my dreams because I can't lift my head up to see over the dash and I can't peel my eyes open more than slightly to see where I'm going
I used to have dreams where driving was very difficult because the pedals would be positioned awkwardly close. It pretty much defied spatial geometry because it wasn't like there was space behind them for my legs, they were just really close with the wall right behind them but it was only hard to access and manipulate the pedals; I still somehow fit fine into that position.
My cat doesnât seem to be able to catch anything in her dreams either from the way she moves and the noises she makes. Happens to the best of us, I guess.
I don't think we as individuals have a choice anymore, it is being made for us as we speak. Everything is getting much more expensive and wages are remaining flat. There's a lot of hungry people, and a quick death is preferable to starving.
Look, we've gotten to the point where without backstory and evidence, police in the United States don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, so until I find out otherwise, I'm not even remotely disappointed that the guy defeated the police officer.
The Frankenstein trope did the creature dirty. Both Dr. and creation were basically geniuses. The creature in particular taught itself how to speak and iirc read/write all by discretely observing some peasants, and how to cook by just experimenting with raw ingredients + fire. If the Dr. that made it actually nurtured and trained the thing, the pair would have been unstoppable. But, that's the whole spiel of the story - he got cold feet, treated his creation like shit, and that came back to bite him in the ass again and again.
If you can tolerate the oldish English, the Mary Shelley's original story still holds its own - definitely recommended, if for no other reason than to appreciate how Frankenstein in media since then has missed the mark fucking hard.
Once you get into the "grooveâ of the language (and Frankenstein is a good place to start) it's worth it to check out some of the other novels Mary Shelley wrote. Like The Last Man for example.
I used to only assume defendants were innocent during jury duty. Now I assume the police are usually on the side of evil. They've never investigated any crimes I've reported and only ever given people I see a hard time. Less than worthless.
Thanks for taking the time to share a direct watch video instead of linking to YouTube. Most shared content still points to YouTube (for valid reasons but still).
A lot of those are surplus and likely given to departments or sold for very little. That practice has contributed a lot to the militarization of police in America.
That should all be taken away from them though. Most of their guns too. A country as developed as the US shouldnât require an armed para military force to police its citizens and, arguably, the US doesnât require one.
The thing is they're still a high financial drain. The military doesn't give them the ones that are in good enough condition to still be useful, and they're a maintenance nightmare.
I worked for a city that accepted one, and it broke down while transporting it to the city the day we took possession and ended up costing the city 200 grand on its first day.
A country as developed as the US shouldnât require an armed para military force to police its citizens and, arguably, the US doesnât require one.
...we need an armed paramilitary force to police our politicians. I mean, on paper we have one, but in practice they seem to just follow a domestic enemy's orders with no thought at all so long as that enemy is holding an office like POTUS.
This is America. Cars, tactical gear, and military vehicles are cheaper than an employee with benefits like healthcare, workers comp insurance, etc. way way way cheaper.
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He literally used video game kiting strats to pull him away from the bike so he had enough time to sprint to it and mount it.
Hate to break it to you, but kiting was a thing before video games.
But yes that is also where I learned the concept.
So this post got me curious to the etymology of the term. And from what I've been able to discern, the term seems to in fact originate from gaming.
I mean, obviously the tactic pre-dates recorded history. But 'kiting', in regards to the term itself, doesn't seem to be a thing before video games.
It's funny because we seem to retroactively assign the term to ancient military tactics. I doubt they called it kiting. They'd probably call it ĂRGĂLŸK, and every Mongolian worth their salt would know how to perform flawless ĂRGĂLŸK.
and now they sell them to anyone at Ikea.
Theyâre delicious and cheap, I donât care if they have horse meat in them.
Didnât Larisa ĂRGĂLŸK play Alex Mack?
Yes in the latest iteration of The Odyssey!
The fighting Uruk-hai!
Yeah i wasnt trying to say that word kiting was old, but for sure the action is old. Im there are predator animals that do it with poison or exhausting their prey before going in for the kill.
No, for sure. It was clear what you meant.
Apologies if my comment came across as "um ackshually". I just meant it in a "TIL/interestingly enough" sorta way.
But it gained widespread knowledge worldwide as a tactic thanks to RTS.
Ask a kid what kiting is, and they won't refer to Genghis Khan.
...lol I'm trying to decide if you're informing me that kites predate video games, but also I find it hard to believe that you didn't know what a kite was until you played video games.
Kiting, a verb, not kite a noun. Kiting is the acting of moving away from an enemy while they chase you.
I looked up the etymology on "kite", and it's quite interesting. Apparently, its original use was to describe a hawk whose call sounds kind of like "kite". Then it was used more generally to describe all birds in that family.
The kite toy was named after the bird, because the bird tended to try to sit on some wind while hunting, so it was basically hovering like a toy kite.
The action of leading an enemy around is named after the toy kite, because a kite in flight is always the length of the string away from the person flying the kite. So, like if you tried to run from the kite, it would always be the same distance away chasing you. You're leading the kite around on a string. And so you would kite an enemy in the same sense.
So wait....I was joking, but you're literally saying that "kiting" before video games is just from actual kites. Lol like no shit, why did I get downvoted?
Because the term is from video games, meaning to lead an enemy around as if they were a kite that you are holding. Nobody is saying kites are older. And yes, you can say "let's go kiting" and mean playing with toy kites in a field, but that is not the definition of the word that is being discussed here. The guy kited the cop in the way that your marine would kite a zergling, not the way a kid would fly a kite at the park.
This has got to be the dumbest thread I've ever been a part of lol
Lemmy, sometimes I just wanna.....makes strangling motion, you're a good kid.
I think it's Paperboy
Haha still got pepper sprayed twice for it
Well, he had pepper sprayed in his general direction. Given the lack of reaction, I'd say it missed.
Or he was able to power through it. Depending on spice tolerance, some might see it as more of an unpleasant condiment than a weapon. He might have biked a couple blocks away and found a place to cry in peace once the adrenaline wore off.
Dude, you don't eat spicy food with your eyes.
See this is proof that police have to use lethal Force because they're so fucking lazy and worthless they can't even jog without almost dying
Yes
He really wanted that bike back
He would've been fucked if the cop had gotten on the bike to chase him instead
Because the cop would have had a heart attack and then he'd be charged with murder?
To be fair, biking uses different muscles from running so if the cop is not a cyclist (and doesn't use stairs for training since stairs are a very similar set of muscles to cycling) the suspect just has to stay out of reach for about half a mile, which for anyone who cycles regularly should be pretty easy to do
OG gaming version
You dont ditch your bike.
The cop runs like when I try to run in my dreams
You have just made me realise that I am an incompetent runner in my dreams. Like I'm trying to run through jelly. Not saying I'm a good runner by any means, but not as bad as I am in my dreams.
It's a common experience
I once told somebody about a recurring dream I have where I canât control the speed of my car. Apparently your brain is fully aware that your legs arenât responding to commands and it translates into your dreams.
In your case, not being able to run because your sleep cycle is deliberately paralysing your legs
I can't steer the car in my dreams because I can't lift my head up to see over the dash and I can't peel my eyes open more than slightly to see where I'm going
I used to have dreams where driving was very difficult because the pedals would be positioned awkwardly close. It pretty much defied spatial geometry because it wasn't like there was space behind them for my legs, they were just really close with the wall right behind them but it was only hard to access and manipulate the pedals; I still somehow fit fine into that position.
My cat doesnât seem to be able to catch anything in her dreams either from the way she moves and the noises she makes. Happens to the best of us, I guess.
Bro kited that cop away from his bike like it was an MMO, absolutely marvelous talent.
This is a good example of why all y'all should be working out! When the revolution happens, you need to be at least so fit.
Or at least be fitter than cops. Which as a 200lb guy who only eats KFC once a week, I already am. I shouldn't be.
I agree except for one thing. should a revolution even happen, people will be fighting for their lives.
neither of these men were fighting as if their lives depended upon the outcome.
nothing motivates better than the real threat of death.
still, get fit and you only increase your chances of survival.
I don't think we as individuals have a choice anymore, it is being made for us as we speak. Everything is getting much more expensive and wages are remaining flat. There's a lot of hungry people, and a quick death is preferable to starving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro0psbLOBEI
This is my favorite example of that.
yakety sax music intensifies
Looked like GTA except the cops didn't immediately open fire.
Thatâs cause heâs white
Look, we've gotten to the point where without backstory and evidence, police in the United States don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, so until I find out otherwise, I'm not even remotely disappointed that the guy defeated the police officer.
At least he didn't get shot
Looks like the cyclist is white, so the cop might have faced consequences for murdering him.
Looks like the cop was trying to pepper spray him while he was fleeing.
More like taser, no?
No.. It was pepper spray. Did you not watch the video?
After pixel peeking I agree on pepper.
But I wasnt (and still not) not familiar with the way cops hold pepper vs a taser so ....
Cop is running like he just ran a marathon in waist high snow.
Cop is running like Frankenstein's mind was teleported into his body mid-stride.
The Frankenstein trope did the creature dirty. Both Dr. and creation were basically geniuses. The creature in particular taught itself how to speak and iirc read/write all by discretely observing some peasants, and how to cook by just experimenting with raw ingredients + fire. If the Dr. that made it actually nurtured and trained the thing, the pair would have been unstoppable. But, that's the whole spiel of the story - he got cold feet, treated his creation like shit, and that came back to bite him in the ass again and again.
If you can tolerate the oldish English, the Mary Shelley's original story still holds its own - definitely recommended, if for no other reason than to appreciate how Frankenstein in media since then has missed the mark fucking hard.
Adam Frankenstein was a poet and a philosopher
Agreed!
Once you get into the "grooveâ of the language (and Frankenstein is a good place to start) it's worth it to check out some of the other novels Mary Shelley wrote. Like The Last Man for example.
GRR! ARGH!
Didn't shoot him because he's white?
He would have, but the darn trigger was so heavy he wasn't able to pull it!
I think the cop pepper sprayed himself so shooting would be a risky endeavor
He escaped by jogging lightly! Great job, Officer Stumbly!
YES!
Whether he was actually guilty is besides the point, you gotta respect the game.
I used to only assume defendants were innocent during jury duty. Now I assume the police are usually on the side of evil. They've never investigated any crimes I've reported and only ever given people I see a hard time. Less than worthless.
Thanks for taking the time to share a direct watch video instead of linking to YouTube. Most shared content still points to YouTube (for valid reasons but still).
Unfortunately when this cop retires, he'll likely be replaced by someone trigger happy
Now you see why they shoot in the back. Fat fucks can't keep up.
Well at least the cop didnât shoot him.
Found the only good cop. Too slow to catch you but still doesn't shoot.
Hey...
How many good cops does it take to change a lightbulb?
I'll let you know when a good cop changes anything!
As the kids say, "absolute cinema".
Good on that police officer for not using deadly force.
"I'm too old for this shit"
He's lumbering around like a sci fi monster from the 50s.
Oink oink
Isnt this why they supposed to have a partner?
A lot of police departments moved away from two person patrols years ago. Youâd have to look up the specific reasons but my guess is cost reduction.
Yet they have the money for military vehicles strange.
A lot of those are surplus and likely given to departments or sold for very little. That practice has contributed a lot to the militarization of police in America.
That should all be taken away from them though. Most of their guns too. A country as developed as the US shouldnât require an armed para military force to police its citizens and, arguably, the US doesnât require one.
The thing is they're still a high financial drain. The military doesn't give them the ones that are in good enough condition to still be useful, and they're a maintenance nightmare.
I worked for a city that accepted one, and it broke down while transporting it to the city the day we took possession and ended up costing the city 200 grand on its first day.
Oh, I know! Itâs the equivalent of you or I being given a Peterbilt 579 and they we try using as a daily commuter.
...we need an armed paramilitary force to police our politicians. I mean, on paper we have one, but in practice they seem to just follow a domestic enemy's orders with no thought at all so long as that enemy is holding an office like POTUS.
And cops that were actually held accountable and had an actually legal duty. https://youtu.be/7muy6mMpp20
This is America. Cars, tactical gear, and military vehicles are cheaper than an employee with benefits like healthcare, workers comp insurance, etc. way way way cheaper.
Whole story? the fuck are you talking about? Cop partners haven't been the norm since the 70s primarily due to cost cutting.
Almost as if we don't have the whole story!
Fuck the police
In the country where I live, cops retire when they get old.
wow, exactly how one would run away from a cop in a computer game; run so that he follows you then once far enough run back and get your bike
Go sit at the pec deck for another 30 minutes you fat fuck.
This is hilarious!
One for the good guys.
The bike guy seems to have watched Zombieland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2oJWQrd_Y
I thought he was going to get in the police car and drive off GTA style for a second
He's running circles around him.
That was almost over. He was way too winded to escape that taser shot when he did. But glad it ended happily
It was pepper spray
Why does the cop, the more heavily-armed of the two, not simply shoot the other man?
Name checks out
Wtf is going on :))
Seems fake