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sopuli.xyz

He literally used video game kiting strats to pull him away from the bike so he had enough time to sprint to it and mount it.

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gibmiserreply
lemmy.world

Hate to break it to you, but kiting was a thing before video games.

But yes that is also where I learned the concept.

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TaterTotreply
piefed.social

So this post got me curious to the etymology of the term. And from what I've been able to discern, the term seems to in fact originate from gaming.

I mean, obviously the tactic pre-dates recorded history. But 'kiting', in regards to the term itself, doesn't seem to be a thing before video games.

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Ann Archyreply
lemmy.world

It's funny because we seem to retroactively assign the term to ancient military tactics. I doubt they called it kiting. They'd probably call it ÖRGÛLŸK, and every Mongolian worth their salt would know how to perform flawless ÖRGÛLŸK.

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They’re delicious and cheap, I don’t care if they have horse meat in them.

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gibmiserreply
lemmy.world

Yeah i wasnt trying to say that word kiting was old, but for sure the action is old. Im there are predator animals that do it with poison or exhausting their prey before going in for the kill.

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No, for sure. It was clear what you meant.

Apologies if my comment came across as "um ackshually". I just meant it in a "TIL/interestingly enough" sorta way.

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But it gained widespread knowledge worldwide as a tactic thanks to RTS.

Ask a kid what kiting is, and they won't refer to Genghis Khan.

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teawrecksreply
sopuli.xyz

...lol I'm trying to decide if you're informing me that kites predate video games, but also I find it hard to believe that you didn't know what a kite was until you played video games.

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Habahnowreply
sh.itjust.works

Kiting, a verb, not kite a noun. Kiting is the acting of moving away from an enemy while they chase you.

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BillyClarkreply
piefed.social

I looked up the etymology on "kite", and it's quite interesting. Apparently, its original use was to describe a hawk whose call sounds kind of like "kite". Then it was used more generally to describe all birds in that family.

The kite toy was named after the bird, because the bird tended to try to sit on some wind while hunting, so it was basically hovering like a toy kite.

The action of leading an enemy around is named after the toy kite, because a kite in flight is always the length of the string away from the person flying the kite. So, like if you tried to run from the kite, it would always be the same distance away chasing you. You're leading the kite around on a string. And so you would kite an enemy in the same sense.

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teawrecksreply
sopuli.xyz

So wait....I was joking, but you're literally saying that "kiting" before video games is just from actual kites. Lol like no shit, why did I get downvoted?

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__Lost__reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Because the term is from video games, meaning to lead an enemy around as if they were a kite that you are holding. Nobody is saying kites are older. And yes, you can say "let's go kiting" and mean playing with toy kites in a field, but that is not the definition of the word that is being discussed here. The guy kited the cop in the way that your marine would kite a zergling, not the way a kid would fly a kite at the park.

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This has got to be the dumbest thread I've ever been a part of lol

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Lemmy, sometimes I just wanna.....makes strangling motion, you're a good kid.

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

Well, he had pepper sprayed in his general direction. Given the lack of reaction, I'd say it missed.

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Buddahrifficreply
lemmy.world

Or he was able to power through it. Depending on spice tolerance, some might see it as more of an unpleasant condiment than a weapon. He might have biked a couple blocks away and found a place to cry in peace once the adrenaline wore off.

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lemmy.world

See this is proof that police have to use lethal Force because they're so fucking lazy and worthless they can't even jog without almost dying

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Hubireply
feddit.org

He would've been fucked if the cop had gotten on the bike to chase him instead

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Because the cop would have had a heart attack and then he'd be charged with murder?

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To be fair, biking uses different muscles from running so if the cop is not a cyclist (and doesn't use stairs for training since stairs are a very similar set of muscles to cycling) the suspect just has to stay out of reach for about half a mile, which for anyone who cycles regularly should be pretty easy to do

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b_nreply
sh.itjust.works

You have just made me realise that I am an incompetent runner in my dreams. Like I'm trying to run through jelly. Not saying I'm a good runner by any means, but not as bad as I am in my dreams.

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valkyre09reply
lemmy.world

I once told somebody about a recurring dream I have where I can’t control the speed of my car. Apparently your brain is fully aware that your legs aren’t responding to commands and it translates into your dreams.

In your case, not being able to run because your sleep cycle is deliberately paralysing your legs

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I can't steer the car in my dreams because I can't lift my head up to see over the dash and I can't peel my eyes open more than slightly to see where I'm going

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I used to have dreams where driving was very difficult because the pedals would be positioned awkwardly close. It pretty much defied spatial geometry because it wasn't like there was space behind them for my legs, they were just really close with the wall right behind them but it was only hard to access and manipulate the pedals; I still somehow fit fine into that position.

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melfiereply

My cat doesn’t seem to be able to catch anything in her dreams either from the way she moves and the noises she makes. Happens to the best of us, I guess.

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lemmy.today

This is a good example of why all y'all should be working out! When the revolution happens, you need to be at least so fit.

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Or at least be fitter than cops. Which as a 200lb guy who only eats KFC once a week, I already am. I shouldn't be.

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GreenKnight23reply
lemmy.world

I agree except for one thing. should a revolution even happen, people will be fighting for their lives.

neither of these men were fighting as if their lives depended upon the outcome.

nothing motivates better than the real threat of death.

still, get fit and you only increase your chances of survival.

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I don't think we as individuals have a choice anymore, it is being made for us as we speak. Everything is getting much more expensive and wages are remaining flat. There's a lot of hungry people, and a quick death is preferable to starving.

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Look, we've gotten to the point where without backstory and evidence, police in the United States don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, so until I find out otherwise, I'm not even remotely disappointed that the guy defeated the police officer.

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Looks like the cyclist is white, so the cop might have faced consequences for murdering him.

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explodiclereply
sh.itjust.works

Looks like the cop was trying to pepper spray him while he was fleeing.

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Linktankreply
lemmy.today

No.. It was pepper spray. Did you not watch the video?

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After pixel peeking I agree on pepper.
But I wasnt (and still not) not familiar with the way cops hold pepper vs a taser so ....

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lemmy.world

Cop is running like he just ran a marathon in waist high snow.

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treadfulreply
lemmy.zip

Cop is running like Frankenstein's mind was teleported into his body mid-stride.

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Mursereply
slrpnk.net

The Frankenstein trope did the creature dirty. Both Dr. and creation were basically geniuses. The creature in particular taught itself how to speak and iirc read/write all by discretely observing some peasants, and how to cook by just experimenting with raw ingredients + fire. If the Dr. that made it actually nurtured and trained the thing, the pair would have been unstoppable. But, that's the whole spiel of the story - he got cold feet, treated his creation like shit, and that came back to bite him in the ass again and again.

If you can tolerate the oldish English, the Mary Shelley's original story still holds its own - definitely recommended, if for no other reason than to appreciate how Frankenstein in media since then has missed the mark fucking hard.

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Agreed!

Once you get into the "groove” of the language (and Frankenstein is a good place to start) it's worth it to check out some of the other novels Mary Shelley wrote. Like The Last Man for example.

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I think the cop pepper sprayed himself so shooting would be a risky endeavor

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lemmy.world

YES!

Whether he was actually guilty is besides the point, you gotta respect the game.

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I used to only assume defendants were innocent during jury duty. Now I assume the police are usually on the side of evil. They've never investigated any crimes I've reported and only ever given people I see a hard time. Less than worthless.

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Thanks for taking the time to share a direct watch video instead of linking to YouTube. Most shared content still points to YouTube (for valid reasons but still).

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Unfortunately when this cop retires, he'll likely be replaced by someone trigger happy

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lemmy.world

Found the only good cop. Too slow to catch you but still doesn't shoot.

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Linktankreply
lemmy.today

Hey...

How many good cops does it take to change a lightbulb?

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LilB0kChoyreply
reddthat.com

A lot of police departments moved away from two person patrols years ago. You’d have to look up the specific reasons but my guess is cost reduction.

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Jake Farmreply
sopuli.xyz

Yet they have the money for military vehicles strange.

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LilB0kChoyreply
reddthat.com

A lot of those are surplus and likely given to departments or sold for very little. That practice has contributed a lot to the militarization of police in America.

That should all be taken away from them though. Most of their guns too. A country as developed as the US shouldn’t require an armed para military force to police its citizens and, arguably, the US doesn’t require one.

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

The thing is they're still a high financial drain. The military doesn't give them the ones that are in good enough condition to still be useful, and they're a maintenance nightmare.

I worked for a city that accepted one, and it broke down while transporting it to the city the day we took possession and ended up costing the city 200 grand on its first day.

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Oh, I know! It’s the equivalent of you or I being given a Peterbilt 579 and they we try using as a daily commuter.

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A country as developed as the US shouldn’t require an armed para military force to police its citizens and, arguably, the US doesn’t require one.

...we need an armed paramilitary force to police our politicians. I mean, on paper we have one, but in practice they seem to just follow a domestic enemy's orders with no thought at all so long as that enemy is holding an office like POTUS.

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This is America. Cars, tactical gear, and military vehicles are cheaper than an employee with benefits like healthcare, workers comp insurance, etc. way way way cheaper.

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Whole story? the fuck are you talking about? Cop partners haven't been the norm since the 70s primarily due to cost cutting.

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wow, exactly how one would run away from a cop in a computer game; run so that he follows you then once far enough run back and get your bike

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That was almost over. He was way too winded to escape that taser shot when he did. But glad it ended happily

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sh.itjust.works

Why does the cop, the more heavily-armed of the two, not simply shoot the other man?

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