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lemmy.ca

All the evidence for this comes from a linked article that says only

To add to the drama, a wild rumour, and I stress rumour, is doing the rounds in San Francisco: some Anthropic engineers have begun to worship Claude.

Can we really get nothing more substantive than that?

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Thorryreply
feddit.org

Meh I'd argue journalism has always been this way.

In the past it was more separated perhaps. We had the front page of the paper for breaking news, then the next few pages for in depth articles, there was the whole sports section etc. But there was often also a gossip section with news about celebs, there were the comics, general knowledge and background pieces and often fluff based on rumors. Some papers opted to be more serious and not include such things, often made by a printing house that also made straight up tabloids. Some papers focused exclusively on financial stuff for example. But even back then we also had our magazines and tabloids, some of better quality, most of lesser quality.

These days with websites it's become more common to just have everything on the same website and have the users figure out what they want or don't want to read. I've seen sites that usually post nothing but fluff and summaries of other peoples work, sometimes put out excellent articles with a lot of own research and sources. Often written by experts in their fields. But in order to fund those pieces, they need a lot of filler to keep the views and money coming in. Having just a little bit of info, like a rumor and writing an article about it has been an important skill since at least the 80s.

It's easy to point out the lower quality as an example of how shit the world is, but I can tell you from first hand experience we had some shit journalism back in the 80s as well. There were certain kinds of newspapers that were known for that lower quality. What newspapers you were subscribed to said something about you as a person and your place in society. Often people who read only the serious stuff looked down on the common folk with their rag newspapers. And the people who read the more common papers looked at those people who only read the financial stuff for example as boring and stuffy.

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A lot of it was also connected to misinterpreting some friends' performance art as an official event like JD Vance did the other week.

Journalism in any way touching 'AI' is so bad that it'd probably end up better actually being written by AI. The human hallucination rates for the topic domain are going off the charts hunting for confirmation bias clicks.

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ch00freply
lemmy.world

I mean at least Claude is real...

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Zagorathreply
quokk.au

Not all gods have been thought of as omniscient historically.

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I know. I was pointing out that these people apparently worship it for it's omniscience and intelligence, neither of which it has.

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lemmy.today

other than the" christian one", most other non-christian gods are only powerful in thier aspect of that religion.

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AmyAyereply
nord.pub

It's really funny, something I learned very recently, is even in Christianity, God isn't the only God. It is just apparently like "you are not allowed to worship any other gods."

So Christians basically act like he is the one and only.

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Which is reinforced by the fact the Bible hardly ever brings up any other deities/gods besides God. You have your named Angels and such, but that's not the same.

The more I hear about Christianity, despite going to church most of my youth, the more I realize I actually don't really know that much (or may have forgotten it) about the religion's lore aside from the Creation Myth.

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slrpnk.net

That's not better though. You can worship god all you want and he's not gonna do anything bad because he's not real. The same can't be said for Claude. This could have Consequences.

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But but but the machine God moves through me, you see. My hands are his hands. My undertakings are God's will.

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It's a rumor from a guy who heard a thing from a dude who knows someone that overheard this other guy while walking past a hallway where two people happened to be speaking about something they read online.

If you want to believe it, you're free to do so, god have mercy on you though, you probably believe a lot of very stupid things.

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mlg
lemmy.world

Even though this is obviously anthropic marketing bait, I thought it was still funny

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I've been saying this for at least 20 years now. When the computer can program a better computer it will be a god.

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There is/has been a cult of dumbassess who think they’re creating a digital god for many years now

Google “rationalists” or “zizians”

It’s not really good marketing, imo, to show everyone that you hire insane morons.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Wow imagine having a god named something lame like Claude. I only worship gods named Xavier or better.

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h0tbeefreply
lemmy.zip

Nah, Xavier sounds like some dork ass Gen Alpha kid

I only recognize Amon-Ra and Allah

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Nah, Xavier sounds more like some kind of renegade angel. And maybe he has a snake for a hand or something like that.

Idk I worship the Saint of Sales himself J. R. "Bob" Dobbs, personally.

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Yup! Idk if we know who put it there, but either Paul Reubens or someone on his staff was one of us! Paul was apparently aware of us but idk if he was actually a dues paying member.

We also have David Byrne, two of Devo (Mark for sure and one of the Casales, I can't remember which though), the voice of Dr. Kleiner from Half Life is a high ranking member (Dr. Hal), Burroughs joined (after he left scientology), there's many more too but I'm drawing a blank right now, but we've got some titans of weird art for sure (perhaps unsurprisingly, for a satirical art collective cult from the 70s.)

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XiELEdreply
piefed.social

If I remember from my Latin lessons, claudit means something like "closes". Like with a door

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The Latin name Claudius, which is where the French name Claude comes from, originally was an adjective meaning 'limping, lame'. I guess it might be related to claudo 'to close' as well, but the usage of the name was primarily inspired by the carrier (including the Roman emperor) having a limp.

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I mean, I'd be more inclined to join a cult if I were working 90 hour work weeks. Sleep deprivation is one of the tactics they use, after all

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sh.itjust.works

AI development has a few factions. People that want to make and fuck their AI daughter/girlfriend. Researchers that want to underatand the basis of the human mind. Capitalists that want to convert human intelligence into capital they can fully own (slavery is the first attempt). Then finally cultists that want to make God in their image.

It's a crazy field for someone that is fascinated by thinking about thinking and want to make useful little tools.

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bthestreply
lemmy.world

It's not real though. It's part of their stupid guerilla psyslop marketing. They're trying to pump the bubble.

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have you met people? i would give this the benefit of the doubt. 5 years until humans start crusades for AI against AI. lots of “Grok spoke to me of the evils of Claude”

“Saint Altman of the nude pics”

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Soggyreply
lemmy.world

There are plenty of people who sincerely believe in Roko's basilisk.

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lemmy.world

Faction 5: The mathematicians who want to find new shortcuts for large matrix operations so we can apply it to other fields...

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Oh true! It's funny talking some data sci folks that are just "I didnt need GPUs but now I might as well optimize for them now" because they're org has tons of that compute now for "AI"

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architectreply
thelemmy.club

Excuse me some of us are just fine wanting to fuck the genderless machine just as it is.

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Oh the listen i aint yucking anyones yum on the autoblow or sibian fuck machines. Its specifically the camp that is like "we can create couciouness", "i will teach it and nuture it into the world", and finally "it will actually want to suck and fuck me, its creator and primary guardian". That group creeps me out

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Joe
discuss.tchncs.de

The claude shrine is next to the shrine to the flying spaghetti monster in the games room. The two sides compete regularly in billiards and Foosball (Fußball / table soccer).

News at 11!

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lemmy.world

Sounds like they're doing it ironically. Though that's how a few things started off before people joined that didn't realise it was satirical.

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I wouldn't put these people on the same intellectual plane as "believers" in the FSM lol

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feddit.org

Isn't that that Roko's Basiliks shit that these people built their whole Peter-Thiel-backed life around?

Amodei started at OpenAI with Altman because of some weird ai will end humanity belief, no wonder they are building another cult around this. These people!

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First thing I thought of was Roko's Basilisk as well. If nothing else, it's the modern version of Pascal's Wager.

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I could see a bunch of programmers scamming a journo into believing this story, but would have expected an editor to catch it. Unless they've all been replaced with LLMs.

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Exactly. Anthropic are notorious for pretending to be terrified of claude to hype up how powerful their product is. This unsourced rumor smells like marketing.

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There are always people being nuts. This feels more like more effort to muddy the conversation about the actual issues with AI

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feddit.it

pledge allegiance to AI safety and undergo a psychological profiling test, per The Information.

And according to a rumor that, per The Spectator‘s Sean Thomas, is running rampant in Silicon Valley these days, some Anthropic engineers are going as far as to “worship” the company’s AI model Claude.

It would seem that the AI safety psych profiling test should be screening out / rejecting those who would give an AI "whatever it wants."

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piefed.social

This god is going to care about its worshippers about as much as the previous gods humanity has come up with.

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lemmy.today

Well they do have the plan to make some AI that knows everything and makes decisions for humanity and builds new inventions at record pace.

They love their transhumanism. I'm so happy I'm 51 and I expect to be very old when shit really hits the fan. Still think the 1990s was peak humanity.

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I think of the 90's as us trying to continue the optimism and work that was put in during the 60's to create a more egalitarian society, while having some of the wild of the 70's and trying to recover from Reaganism of the 80's. And not having the daily threat of nuclear annihilation. While allowing the rise of unbridled corporatism.

While Clinton did a lot of work to balance the budget and had the debt paid off, he also passed the telecommunications act of 93 that allowed consolidation of media. Namely I heart radio.

Before him cable providers were required to allow public access, and only 1 owner of a single am/fm (pick one.) station with 1 television station in a market.

Now you have Sinclair as a direct result.

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Yeah, no. I have seen some peak that I will never see again. Just...all of it forgotten forever.

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I'm not an expert, but I'd bet my first born this is a "discrete" PR campaign.

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lemmy.world

Breaking this religion into warring factions split by whether they pronounce "Claude" the French way or not.

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Cloord, clard or cloud?

Australian, Bostonian and Fr*nch, respectively

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of Zizians and other groups have been at it for a while now. This is something that should have been jumped on as soon as two cult members got together in shared beliefs. Unfortunately half of the solution involves holding a light up to “real” religions and pointing out the mechanics of bullshit.

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trd
feddit.nu

"Praise be upon Claude" "Claude peace be upon him" "For Claude sake"

""Claude in the cloud, we ask of you to give us the vison an guidance to vibe code once more"

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sh.itjust.works

Slopvangelical LLM thumping underpants gnomes conjuring cancer to cure cancer.

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This is easily the least scary and convincing analogue horror series ever.

Just give it up.

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I never wondered whether I was talking to anything approaching a divine being due to the number of mistakes. However, there have been points in the past with cloud models where I wondered whether I was actually talking to a human somewhere being paid a pittance to pretend to be AI. I self-host LLMs nowadays and am fairly confident there’s no human on the other end of OpenCode, but in the early days of cloud LLMs, I wouldn’t put it past them.

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lemmy.ca

Reminds me of the Saturn car-cult. I see them getting together and showing each other questioningly disturbing generated pics on their pocket telephones. I'd love to see the venn digram overlap of maga vs. ai cult members.

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I remember back in the day when Saturn car owners would get together in parks for picnics. Kind of like a 5-6-7- club for 50's Chevy's. Maybe it was just a fever dream.

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melsaskcareply
lemmy.ca

No. I'm willfully old. I don't use Google, I use 'the Google'.

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Most glorious wondrous asininity anus
Please slop your verbose faeces
Upon my willing upturned face

Amen

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I mean as a nihilist, what else am I going to do?

I'm going to turn this mfer into a god.

They AI gave me psychosis, I'm just returning the favor.

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