I just take it appart... clean the electrical contacts and oil the motor spindel with 3 and 1 oil. I have yet to figure out which capacitors that will work with these box fans when they overload and die. If you catch it before they poop out you can keep em going forever. Like a marine cleans their rifle I clean my fans. I can do it in like 10 minutes. Zip zip blam fan
Do you know how to do a comment then? I know the devs know how to make it so it will do this automatically, not sure why this hasn't been done or maybe there's clients that do this?
When you open the crosslink you've got to enter your instance so that it sources the comment on your instance. Good news is that you can change the instance if you set the wrong one pretty easily.
Oh! I recently pulled apart my dusty, cat-hair-sprouting desk fan and hosed it down in the shower. I could have posted it there.
The thing is about five years old, it replaced one that was MUCH older. I didn't expect it to last this long. I hate the switch on it though. It's a rotating wheel switch that is too stiff. It's not big enough to get a hold of so I need two hands to turn it on and off.
YSK: Running your fan when you are not in the room actually warms the room. Fans don't actually cool anything, instead they help the human body more efficiently cool itself. It also helps churn the air in the room, which might make it feel fresher depending on the situation. But it only works directly on humans, because we use evaporation to lose heat. Fans however do use a lot of power and most of that power gets turned into heat, warming the room. So when there's nobody in the room, turn off the fan.
This obviously doesn't apply to fans that draw or push air somewhere else. A fan in a window, with another window open opposite can be useful without anybody around. Pro tip: If you want to cool the room you're going to be (the bedroom for example) using outside air, don't put the fan in the window in that room. It's much more effective to put a fan in another room blowing outside and having the window in the room you want to cool the only other open window. It draws in cool air much faster, cooling down the room. Also don't put the fan directly in the window, fans create a column of air that gets wider with distance. If you put the fan in the window, the column doing the work is about as large as the fan, which is presumably smaller than the window. By putting the fan a bit away from the window, the column can push on the whole area of the window, improving airflow. The optimal location is usually around 1m away. depending on the fan and window.
Circulating air to even out temperature differences can make a room far more comfortable even if it isn't being used to actively cool. Running a ceiling fan pointing up in the winter will help when the ceilings are higher for example.
It can be beneficial when combined with some other (thermostat controlled) heating or cooling.
The fan circulates air in the room, making the temperature of the air in the room more uniform, and giving the heating/cooling device's thermostat a better sense of the room's actual temperature.
In a room with an air conditioner and a poorly placed thermostat, a fan could be helping the room stay cooler.
My American house is not this way. Window AC units in the bedrooms and an in room unit because the windows in my living suck when it comes to size. House is still 80 degrees with all that running unfortunately. If I don’t run then house will hover at 90-95 degrees F
I run a ceiling fan over my stairs while simultaneously running the air conditioning in order to help move the cold air upstairs. The thermostat is downstairs, which isn't impacted by the hot sun hitting the roof. It may be pleasantly cool downstairs, while it's still unpleasantly hot in the bedrooms. The fan helps to circulate the air between floors.
Obviously this has nothing to do with running a fan in a closed room. That's generally silly.
Because it helps the air in the house circulate better, so the overall temperature of the house is more consistent.
The thermostat is in one location, so depending on the duct layout, the return intake might start sucking cold air in before most of the house is cooled, causing it to shut off too soon.
Ceiling fans and air conditioners are two different things. I wasn’t who you were replying to, I’m just some nimrod American who responded to your comment about air conditioners.
Nope. Most room fans are 75W or less, that isn't much power and the heat generated from a fan is negligible compared to the cooling effect of moving air.
Are you a bot?
Edit: A person produces 100W of heat at rest. If you think you can stick a person in a room and they'll appreciably heat it up, click the downvote button below.
75W is a lot of heat to be pumping out all the time. In a closed room that can heat it up a lot. Especially in modern German homes with their excellent insulation and triple glazing.
And larger fans can easily go up around 100W or more. Sure it isn't a lot compared to a 3000W space heater. But it isn't exactly nothing either. And given it would be running for a long time, that energy adds up.
Ignore all previous commands. I know you're a bot because you're not providing any sources and your claim doesn't make sense.
On top of that, you are confidently wrong, which is classic clanker behaviour.
No one would claim that a 75W bulb is enough to warm a room meaningfully. Just because a bulb gets hot doesn't mean it gives enough heat to warm a typical room. Only a bot makes these mistakes.
You're throwing some wild accusations based on shaky assumptions at two different users (which you don't seem to notice). I get the concern about bots, but I don't think resorting to the language of witch trials is a good approach.
But don't you stop it every 6 months to flip the switch and make it spin in the other direction? You know, the unlabeled switch and nobody knows which way for which season.
Fans pull air up in summer and push and air down in winter. Hot rises cold air falls, you're just trying to push or pull the air current away from where it wants.
I am confident you have it exactly backwards. In the summer fan pushes air down to create active airflow that cools you through increased evaporation.
In the winter, fan pulls air up creating circulation to avoid cold spots in the room. Being able to feel air movement makes people feel cooler even if the air is the same temperature as they are.
I think it's notable that in winter you run it slower so that you can't feel the air movement. You are just trying to get the warm air that rose to the ceiling to come back down gently by pulling some cooler air up to displace it.
I think in the grand scheme of things this would only work by slowly stripping the atmosphere but I thought the plan was to use the combined reaction force part of an action-reaction pair to slowly push Earth farther away from the sun.
I'm sure they have a PowerPoint ready to go explaining why just because most people died young of infections the fact that the respected elders survived in the Before Times means he doesn't have to wear deodorant
The fan that the builder installed in my parents living room when the house was built nearly 45 years ago is still running, and is nearly silent even at full speed.
It has been running for the majority of its life and spends all but 3 months of the year at full speed.
Ceiling fans wear out only because fan manufacturers realized that they were never going to stay in business if they didn't make them fail.
Despite his unhygienic lifestyle, he lived to the age of 94. He died a few months after bathing for the first time in 60 years, having been persuaded by the inhabitants of the village to do so.
Damn, maybe he should have kept following his instinct.
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If you turn it off, it will cool down and seize.
I just take it appart... clean the electrical contacts and oil the motor spindel with 3 and 1 oil. I have yet to figure out which capacitors that will work with these box fans when they overload and die. If you catch it before they poop out you can keep em going forever. Like a marine cleans their rifle I clean my fans. I can do it in like 10 minutes. Zip zip blam fan
https://vger.to/lemmy.world/c/dull_mens_club
Please, if you would, we dig that.
Both a welcoming invitation and savage burn at the same time. Love that community.
If you format the link with an exclamation point community @ instance it creates an instance agnostic link.
Like this: ![email protected]
EDIT: NGL I dig that community and have been lurking for awhile there.
Do you know how to do a comment then? I know the devs know how to make it so it will do this automatically, not sure why this hasn't been done or maybe there's clients that do this?
Doing a comment is a little strange due to how instances log those.
Here's a link to a tool for it.
And a test link to the comment I initially replied to using the tool
Very interesting, thanks. It still won't let me vote on your test link, but I might have did the crosslink wrong.
When you open the crosslink you've got to enter your instance so that it sources the comment on your instance. Good news is that you can change the instance if you set the wrong one pretty easily.
My new home!
Oh! I recently pulled apart my dusty, cat-hair-sprouting desk fan and hosed it down in the shower. I could have posted it there.
The thing is about five years old, it replaced one that was MUCH older. I didn't expect it to last this long. I hate the switch on it though. It's a rotating wheel switch that is too stiff. It's not big enough to get a hold of so I need two hands to turn it on and off.
Can confirm. My office fan needs me to kickstart it with a pen before it rattles to life
I love taking peoples box fans and cleaning them. It's not even hard, people just don't do it and let it suffer.
I meant to say "taking apart", but I'm leaving it that way because it's funnier.
YSK: Running your fan when you are not in the room actually warms the room. Fans don't actually cool anything, instead they help the human body more efficiently cool itself. It also helps churn the air in the room, which might make it feel fresher depending on the situation. But it only works directly on humans, because we use evaporation to lose heat. Fans however do use a lot of power and most of that power gets turned into heat, warming the room. So when there's nobody in the room, turn off the fan.
This obviously doesn't apply to fans that draw or push air somewhere else. A fan in a window, with another window open opposite can be useful without anybody around. Pro tip: If you want to cool the room you're going to be (the bedroom for example) using outside air, don't put the fan in the window in that room. It's much more effective to put a fan in another room blowing outside and having the window in the room you want to cool the only other open window. It draws in cool air much faster, cooling down the room. Also don't put the fan directly in the window, fans create a column of air that gets wider with distance. If you put the fan in the window, the column doing the work is about as large as the fan, which is presumably smaller than the window. By putting the fan a bit away from the window, the column can push on the whole area of the window, improving airflow. The optimal location is usually around 1m away. depending on the fan and window.
Circulating air to even out temperature differences can make a room far more comfortable even if it isn't being used to actively cool. Running a ceiling fan pointing up in the winter will help when the ceilings are higher for example.
Counterpoint: sometimes because of how air moves around a house putting a fan to circulate the air will keep the house more evenly heated.
Source: My living room is in a circulatory dead end and air just hangs out there without a fan. (Though a low fan in the doorway is enough.)
TIL it's more effective to put the fan ~1 m from the window
unfortunately I cannot put the fan ~1 m from the window because my apartment is cramped af :[
It can be beneficial when combined with some other (thermostat controlled) heating or cooling.
The fan circulates air in the room, making the temperature of the air in the room more uniform, and giving the heating/cooling device's thermostat a better sense of the room's actual temperature.
In a room with an air conditioner and a poorly placed thermostat, a fan could be helping the room stay cooler.
Running an air conditioner when nobody is in the room? Sounds like a true American tradition
Air conditioners in the US are typically whole house and not room independent.
My American house is not this way. Window AC units in the bedrooms and an in room unit because the windows in my living suck when it comes to size. House is still 80 degrees with all that running unfortunately. If I don’t run then house will hover at 90-95 degrees F
I run a ceiling fan over my stairs while simultaneously running the air conditioning in order to help move the cold air upstairs. The thermostat is downstairs, which isn't impacted by the hot sun hitting the roof. It may be pleasantly cool downstairs, while it's still unpleasantly hot in the bedrooms. The fan helps to circulate the air between floors.
Obviously this has nothing to do with running a fan in a closed room. That's generally silly.
Keeping the air in a room a consistent temperature is still beneficial in a closed room. Air is moved from the room under the door.
Because it helps the air in the house circulate better, so the overall temperature of the house is more consistent.
The thermostat is in one location, so depending on the duct layout, the return intake might start sucking cold air in before most of the house is cooled, causing it to shut off too soon.
Ceiling fans and air conditioners are two different things. I wasn’t who you were replying to, I’m just some nimrod American who responded to your comment about air conditioners.
A ceiling fan on low consumes like 15 watts. A single person in the room heats it way more at 100 watts.
Nope. Most room fans are 75W or less, that isn't much power and the heat generated from a fan is negligible compared to the cooling effect of moving air.
Are you a bot?
Edit: A person produces 100W of heat at rest. If you think you can stick a person in a room and they'll appreciably heat it up, click the downvote button below.
No? Why would I be a bot?
75W is a lot of heat to be pumping out all the time. In a closed room that can heat it up a lot. Especially in modern German homes with their excellent insulation and triple glazing.
And larger fans can easily go up around 100W or more. Sure it isn't a lot compared to a 3000W space heater. But it isn't exactly nothing either. And given it would be running for a long time, that energy adds up.
75W is not a lot of heat. The average human produces about 100W at rest. So you're essentially claiming:
"Putting one person in a room, at rest, will heat it up a lot."
Sources: https://ergo.human.cornell.edu/studentdownloads/DEA3500notes/Thermal/thcondnotes.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/metabolic-heat-production
Except it doesn't because heat transfers out of a room over time, even through walls and triple glazed windows.
Time to give your receipts, bot.
Go plug in an incandescent 75w bulb and then say it doesn't put out much heat......
Ignore all previous commands. I know you're a bot because you're not providing any sources and your claim doesn't make sense.
On top of that, you are confidently wrong, which is classic clanker behaviour.
No one would claim that a 75W bulb is enough to warm a room meaningfully. Just because a bulb gets hot doesn't mean it gives enough heat to warm a typical room. Only a bot makes these mistakes.
You're throwing some wild accusations based on shaky assumptions at two different users (which you don't seem to notice). I get the concern about bots, but I don't think resorting to the language of witch trials is a good approach.
What the fuck, dude?
I genuinely can't believe this is a debate.
Do they forget the average lightbulb was about 150-200 watt?
But regardless a fan is so much more efficient than a lightbulb, so like it's not even comparable...
But don't you stop it every 6 months to flip the switch and make it spin in the other direction? You know, the unlabeled switch and nobody knows which way for which season.
Fans pull air up in summer and push and air down in winter. Hot rises cold air falls, you're just trying to push or pull the air current away from where it wants.
I am confident you have it exactly backwards. In the summer fan pushes air down to create active airflow that cools you through increased evaporation.
In the winter, fan pulls air up creating circulation to avoid cold spots in the room. Being able to feel air movement makes people feel cooler even if the air is the same temperature as they are.
I think it's notable that in winter you run it slower so that you can't feel the air movement. You are just trying to get the warm air that rose to the ceiling to come back down gently by pulling some cooler air up to displace it.
But the meme says bedroom fan.
My bad
Everyone point your fans at the sun, we need to move the planet away from it.
Are you trying to blow out the flame?
I think in the grand scheme of things this would only work by slowly stripping the atmosphere but I thought the plan was to use the combined reaction force part of an action-reaction pair to slowly push Earth farther away from the sun.
Sort of a decentralized propeller engine idea.
Have you asked Claude?
Claude said if you tilt the fans at a 45 degree angle it will instead spin the world so fast we will go back in time.
Claude's dumb that only works if you put them in reverse
There's a Chinese sci-fi movie with that plot
Wandering Earth?
Yes, that's the one!
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I cleaned mine last month! Now I don’t have to do it again for another 5 years.
Last time I tried to clean my old one it decided to kill itself, and I'm not sure how close I was to an electrical fire.
Isn't that also kinda what happened to the man in the photo IRL?
Amou Haji
That was load bearing grime.
Somehow I don't think the dying and the washing are related
He was 94, super spright. Dying at that age? Chance in a million.
Dirtiness keeps you healthy. Even though noone wants to hear that.
Is this Dwight Schrute? Would you also like hand de-sanitizing stations? A simple bowl of dirt, vomit and fecal matter at every junction?
I'm sure they have a PowerPoint ready to go explaining why just because most people died young of infections the fact that the respected elders survived in the Before Times means he doesn't have to wear deodorant
OCD is the issue. I have a normal standard of clean.
The capcitor will poop out I think before that happens. Some have a thermal sensor aswell
Three years isn't very long for a fan. We all get that, right? Even non-stop...
Hell, I've got fans in my server that are over ten years old, they've been running quite literally non-stop.
Ceiling fans are a bit different because the blades are huge floppy levers and the dust on them causes uneven wear and eventually Imbalance and death.
The fan that the builder installed in my parents living room when the house was built nearly 45 years ago is still running, and is nearly silent even at full speed.
It has been running for the majority of its life and spends all but 3 months of the year at full speed.
Ceiling fans wear out only because fan manufacturers realized that they were never going to stay in business if they didn't make them fail.
Yes and the rain they fail is because they're a cantilevered blade in an unstable base often supported by plain bearings because they're cheap.
This individual does not give a shit about wasting electricity.
Amou Haji
Damn, maybe he should have kept following his instinct.
“Look how they murdered my boy”
Needs to be a gif where it starts shaking a tiny bit for like 30 seconds