Yeah. This isnt a master/slave situation (even if that IS the pretense and roleplay); its a "I want to do this, you agreed to let me do this, and as soon as you say stop i will stop" situation
More like "I want you to do this to me, and you want to do this to me, but if at any point either of us don't want to, then we both stop". Doms have been pressured into doing far more than they're comfortable as well.
hmmm in my mind rewards are like - overwhelming your subbie and really going ham on them and kissing them all over furiously and such, making them lose that feeling of needing to hide how nice they feel. but a punishment! >o< im honestly not sure what that would even be... iguess teasing. hurting them feels wrong...
but that is terrible!!! ignoring them... no, nonono, I couldnt do that. Neglegance goes beyond punishment, that is just... cruel. in the sad way. in the lonely cold not-fun-al-all way.
thats no fun. not for me, not for the subbie, no I don't want that, thats just so very sad I couldnt bare neglecting... no, no that feels bad... imma stay with teasing
This reminds me some deep thinking i did on the topic of consent and morality.
And concluded that actually, bear with me with this heck of a statement
“Facism is not evil”
Of course facism as humans have made it and historically expressed it is very much super evil with no doubt. Absolutely no doubt, i identify as antifa for a reason.
But this is part of the larger philosophy that ”there is no objective good or evil in the universe”
So what makes things subjective good or evil.
Is it evil to organise a games of change fixed to have the house win majority of times? Not if the players are informed and consent to play
(Consent also means the person is capable of controlling/understanding their actions, exploiting addiction is harm)
Is it evil to have sex with someone? Not if there is consent and clear boundaries.
Is it evil to humiliate and hurt someone? Not if there is consent and clear boundaries.
How big of a step is it to go from bdsm master slave play to a fascist powerplay.
I can even imagine a ethical functional economic organisation who runs on a fetishised version of Mussolini's facism. But it cannot exist in the world we live now.
If all the workers consent and want to work in these conditions, same with the partners. And they leave everyone else alone. There is effectively no harm and no evil.
Such does require a world where there is total freedom of work meaning you are not incentivised in any way to work with organisations you are uncomfortable with.
Disclaimer, i am not into any of these things. But i accept that people can have weird kinks. Everything is ok as long as it causes no harm.
Arent all social interactions essentially a form of roleplay based on context?
Its the expression of the idea itself and adhering to the guardrails that count, how serious the performer is on the insider matters less and is not always an easy tell.
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Im too much of a good girl to break the rules i could never be a brat 😞
Who gave you permission to talk?
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well behaved subs rarely make history
They should make a bdsm for anarchists who want a little erotic violence without the power hierarchy
BDSM, by definition, doesn't have hierarchy. Because the whole thing is based on consent.
People usually also have special words to stop the acting
I should say, without hierarchy play, more like ... I dunno,
nude judoranked competitive sexmaybe play fighting?
nude jitsu?
i hear your mom is reigning champion
she's too strong, I can't beat her 😔
what's a safe word to stop capitalism?
Kill the rich
"solidarity"
Yeah. This isnt a master/slave situation (even if that IS the pretense and roleplay); its a "I want to do this, you agreed to let me do this, and as soon as you say stop i will stop" situation
More like "I want you to do this to me, and you want to do this to me, but if at any point either of us don't want to, then we both stop". Doms have been pressured into doing far more than they're comfortable as well.
That's why you need actual punishments like tickle torture or no cake.
Isn't the cake a lie anyway?
Kitten: I hereby sentence you to half an hour of MrBeast
pretty sure that's a human rights violation.
I'm such a fucking brat lol
Wait, are we talking about bdsm or capitalism... I'm lost
they are the same
You should really think of them more as funishments.
hmmm in my mind rewards are like - overwhelming your subbie and really going ham on them and kissing them all over furiously and such, making them lose that feeling of needing to hide how nice they feel. but a punishment! >o< im honestly not sure what that would even be... iguess teasing. hurting them feels wrong...
Punishment could just be ignoring them
but that is terrible!!! ignoring them... no, nonono, I couldnt do that. Neglegance goes beyond punishment, that is just... cruel. in the sad way. in the lonely cold not-fun-al-all way.
thats no fun. not for me, not for the subbie, no I don't want that, thats just so very sad I couldnt bare neglecting... no, no that feels bad... imma stay with teasing
Well you don't have to ignore them for a while day lol. Just a couple minutes. Or walk to the kitchen and make yourself a sandwich then come back.
but leaving them lonely.... no. I couldnt do that.
What is this? ABA?
Coffbratscoff
This reminds me some deep thinking i did on the topic of consent and morality.
And concluded that actually, bear with me with this heck of a statement
“Facism is not evil”
Of course facism as humans have made it and historically expressed it is very much super evil with no doubt. Absolutely no doubt, i identify as antifa for a reason.
But this is part of the larger philosophy that ”there is no objective good or evil in the universe”
So what makes things subjective good or evil.
Is it evil to organise a games of change fixed to have the house win majority of times? Not if the players are informed and consent to play (Consent also means the person is capable of controlling/understanding their actions, exploiting addiction is harm)
Is it evil to have sex with someone? Not if there is consent and clear boundaries.
Is it evil to humiliate and hurt someone? Not if there is consent and clear boundaries.
How big of a step is it to go from bdsm master slave play to a fascist powerplay.
I can even imagine a ethical functional economic organisation who runs on a fetishised version of Mussolini's facism. But it cannot exist in the world we live now.
If all the workers consent and want to work in these conditions, same with the partners. And they leave everyone else alone. There is effectively no harm and no evil. Such does require a world where there is total freedom of work meaning you are not incentivised in any way to work with organisations you are uncomfortable with.
Disclaimer, i am not into any of these things. But i accept that people can have weird kinks. Everything is ok as long as it causes no harm.
You're greatly stretching the definition of fascism here. You're more describing fascism roleplay than "non-evil fascism".
Arent all social interactions essentially a form of roleplay based on context?
Its the expression of the idea itself and adhering to the guardrails that count, how serious the performer is on the insider matters less and is not always an easy tell.
The penalties for rule violations are in fact incentived. Let's see you spell everything correctively by sweeping