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infosec.pub

It's New York, I am sure a non trivial amount of people don't care about him at all. And then what's left over are his actual supporters.

Ofcourse, the headline is obviously using the statistics in bad faith in an attempt to spin this in their favor.

Or another words, it is propaganda. Which I think is effective in every language although my sample size is limited.

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lemmy.zip

The actual implication of the headline is that over half do support him. Non-support includes those apathetic and against. Saying "almost less than half lack support" means "more than half do support." The other less than 50% is shared by "no opinion" and "against."

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You're right, the way it is worded, anyone who doesn't support him would include the people that are indifferent or don't care.

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lemmy.world

According to the Murdoch owned right-wingnut rag (WSJ) 69% in favour leaves 31% neutral or not in favour - 31% is NOT just under half, it's just under a third. Lying shitsacks.

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lemmy.zip

Just to be clear. That image isnt saying that WSJ reported that stat. That image says WSJ is saying new yorkers dont like him any longer, but the pole data (with no source stated) shows 69% favorable.

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Ok I'll admit I didn't get that at first what the fuck dude how'd you look at the stats and get that positioning from over 50% support

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lemmy.world

Not what that means

A Siena University poll showed that 30% of New York voters like the DSA and 47% don’t have a favorable view of them.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/almost-half-of-new-new-yorkers-arent-supportive-of-democratic-socialists-of-america-poll-zohran-mamdani-michigan-bernie-sanders

Edit: Worth noting, though, this is NY State likely voters. NYC is 49% support. 32% not support.

https://sri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/SNY0826-Release-Crosstabs_Corrected.pdf

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piefed.social

Oh ok, in context that makes sense but I hope you can understand my confusion.

Thanks for the information

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The headline was very much written to make DSA seem unpopular.

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Here’s the actual article.

“New Yorkers”?

As in the entire State? A state that has large red rural areas? Polling people that aren’t even Mamdani’s constituents?

Some of the poll info is from the New York Post, an unapologetically right wing rag that has no problems trash talking the left.

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Maybe they dont like him because theyre jealous they dont get all of those sweet, sweet, DSA dollars and it exposes the incompetency of their own governments

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

As far as I can tell he's slightly left of centre, not even particularly radical.

Painting this man as a rabid communist, when as far as I can tell he's mainly been fixing potholes, is a really stupid move from the right wing propaganda machine.

Even if they think they'll be able to rig the next elections, alienating half the population is a dumb idea.

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lemmy.ml

Americans are irrationally anti-communist, that strategy is being used because it works.

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They were irrationally anti-communist, anti-socialist, and pro-capitalist, but polling suggests that's changing.

It's the same with the whole Israel thing. There's been a slow but noticeable shift in public opinion.

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lemmy.world

Hey the Banana Republic is revolting! COMMUNIST! Here comes the American warships to stop communism in the name of the capitalist overlords with taxpayers money. Isn't that sosialism for the rich?

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Everyone gets called communist. And when everyone's communist, no one is.

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Is it a stupid move? Calling anything left of hunting the poor for sport "liberal" and anything left of giving the 1% all the money "communism" seems to be working extremely well for the right-wing. Perhaps we are dropping the ball by not giving an actual extreme left perspective in politics to balance things out.

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lemmy.world

Their mandate is merely resounding but not thunderously overwhelming yet? Great reporting.

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Well, no one has been slammed or blasted so there is still hope.

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What an idiot headline. That will work on loads of idiots.

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SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF NEW YORKERS UNHAPPY WITH MAMDANI!

MAMDANI IN TROUBLE! LESS SUPPORT FOR HIS POLICIES THAN EXPECTED!

MAJORITY OF NEW YORKERS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF MAMDANIs opponents

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I hate to be the guy saying "Simpsons did it", but this exact same joke was used to highlight how dumb someone was.

In 1995.

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programming.dev

Does someone read this and go "oh no %50 don't support Madani so I should quench all my positive feelings for him." Maybe they do and that is why they produced this excrement piece of a headline.

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The title says almost half of New Yorkers aren't supportive of DSA.

Now:

  • that means majority of New Yorkers are supportive
  • "aren't supportive" implies that people who are apathetic are also included in that group
  • there's also suggestion they might have counted people from New York State instead of New York City, but I don't believe that
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People just want to see their bias confirmed. They read this and think 'see, i knew he wasn't as popular as they say'.

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Reminds me of the old joke about second place, because of all the losers, you’re first.

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