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Single English word for dying of thirst, like starvation. Couldn't think of one, how does Exsiccated/Exsiccation sound?

Exsiccated/Exsiccation - was trying to think of a single English term that could be the equivalent of starvation; like if someone was dying of thirst, but I felt parched isn't weighted enough to fulfill the gravity of it.

In latin exsiccare meant to dry up completely, so that's how we got here I guess.

Thoughts? Is there a term I have forgotten that fits what I was looking for?

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lemmy.world

I was thinking if someone drank the night before I would define them as dehydrated, not dying of thirst.

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meco03211reply
lemmy.world

If someone hasn't drank in two days they are dehydrated.

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I feel like the hungry -> starving process is just a longer version of the thirsty -> dehydrated process

Does it make a difference that starvation takes longer than dehydration, but both result in eventual death? It takes weeks to die of starvation, it takes days to die of dehydration. Just because one manifests over a longer period of time and has a longer recovery period doesn't make the other less deadly

Also, I'm not sure if there are poisons a person can ingest that will strip vital nutrients and push a person into the starvation state (and if the poison does strip vital nutrients, the poisoned person already has bigger problems). But consuming alcohol will push a person into the dehydrated state without killing them.

What if you compared the effects of dehydration and starvation as they progress, like, mild -> acute -> severe -> terminal?

  • Mild dehydration (day 1) kidneys conserve water, headache, fatigue
  • Mild starvation (week 1) blood sugar drops, liver increases glycogen breakdown, irritability, difficult to concentrate.

Something like that?

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Dehydration
You don't necessarily die from starvation the same way you don't necessarily die from dehydration, but you can die from either of them.

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lemmy.world

Strictly theres 'dehydration', though it does lack gravitas of 'starving'. 'Parched' also exists but I feel like that falls in with 'thirsty' as a "Yea I want water but I'm not dying" situation.

'Dessicated' or 'dessication' could be used descriptively as it means dried out.

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Godnrocreply
lemmy.world

If you saw someone who staved to death, you may say their remains were emaciated; they died of starvation.

If you saw someone who died from lack of water, you may say their remains are desiccated; they died of dehydration.

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I dont think that's true in either case.

You can be emaciated without dying, and you can starve to death without being emaciated. They might be somewhat related but not always occurring together.

The same is true of dehydration and dessicated.

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'I feel dessicated' and 'I feel dehydrated' both flow fairly well to me, though I'd feel more bougie saying the former unless I was analogizing in the same sentence

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lemmy.world

The old English word for this was forthirst. It was a direct counterpart to the modern "starve." But it fell out of use because it happened so rarely in the British isles. I don't know Arabic but I'm willing to bet they have a word for it..

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Ah, like german verdursten!

I always find it cool when you can discover equivalent words in other languages like this.

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audaxdreikreply
pawb.social

Lemme hit that gatorade, I'm forthirsting here!

He forthirsted to death.

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feddit.online

I think “desiccated” would be the closest existing English word to what you’re trying to cook up.

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muhybreply
programming.dev

I'm not a native English speaker so keep that in mind, but desiccated sounds like "already dead because of dehydration" to me.

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sorghumreply
sh.itjust.works

That's because desiccated is past tense. The other forms would be dessicate, dessicates, and desiccating. The "I'm starving to death" would be "I'm desiccating to death"

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Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying it! I guess I only saw that word in its past tense in real life.

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feddit.online

I think that's right. I would read it as hyperbole to refer to something still alive as desiccated, for sure. If you meant it literally, I wouldn't think of something that is even just dead but like, dried up and leathery, too -- if you're talking about a desiccated cow, I'm thinking more "beef jerky" and less "someone get the vet, and hurry." There are more natural options elsewhere in the comments; I offered mine more as "this is the more well-known word using that root" than "this is the most natural word a native speaker would produce."

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I understand and I didn't write that because I'm arguing. I was just stating how it sounds for me. When I see the word desiccated I imagine something like someone died in an arid place and stayed there for some time. Though it's not a word that I encounter a lot.

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gnufuureply
lemmy.ca

The only way for this comment to be more German would be if it came laminated.

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lemmy.ml

Starvation doesn't necessarily imply death. Like you could be emaciated from starvation in prison, but still alive.

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Yeah, I feel some of the terms got whittled down in severity over time. Kind of like you hear people say they electricuted themselves fairly often. Slowly it's becoming not deadly, just a bit of a shock lol

*Typo, executed - > electricuted. Not sure I know anyone who said they executed themself and told be about it, haha

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Agent641reply
lemmy.world

It also doesn't strictly limited to food. You can be starved of oxygen. Why not water too?

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Starvation of oxygen succinctly is suffocation

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Chee_Koalareply
lemmy.world

Is parched itself not strong enough to fit the bill? Nonnative speaker here.

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I just never miss never miss an opportunity to slap turbo onto something, as a rule.

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lemmy.world

I don't think Exsiccated/Exsiccation is cromulent enough. Doesn't really embiggen dying of thirst to me.

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That applies to food and liquids, not specifically liquids. The German version does seem to apply to liquids only though.

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quokk.au

Dessication. It's a bit hyperbolic but it works.

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I like desiccation, it has such a lovely mouth-feel. I was reading an Patrick Obrien book recently, and I think someone was in danger of desiccation.

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Let's invent some!

Mortidipsia - "thirst unto death"

Xerothan - "dry death" note: than(atos)

Siccomort - "death by drying out"

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No single word im aware of, exsiccation sounds cool.

My only speed bump is hyperbolically saying "Yes I'm exsiccating", but that's fine. Parched or dehydrated are technically correct, but don't have the same punch as "starving".

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fedia.io

Exsiccated is already a word, at least according to Wiktionary.

And the entry has been there for nearly 20 years so it's not someone being quick off the mark after reading this post either. (Time travellers notwithstanding)

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lemmy.world

Eskimos have so many words for snow, I'm not surprised English lacks a word for dying of thirst but have about two dozen words ways of describing how wet you are.

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Thorryreply
feddit.org

I think this is a misconception. It's the same thing where people think Germans have words for everything. This kind of thinking usually comes from English native speakers, where compounding words isn't really a thing. Germans can just stick multiple words together and form a new word. This is the same thing with the indigenous peoples of the north having a lot of words for snow. They combine multiple concepts into one word, to describe the kinds of snow. Many languages have this feature, English just happens to be one that lacks it.

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This kind of thinking usually comes from English native speakers, where compounding words isn’t really a thing

Oh but we can! We have footballs, handbags and smartphones. But also, is there really a grammatical difference between a charging cable and a Ladekabel? A brake pedal and a Bremspedal? Gold medal and Goldmedaille? In all cases both languages just jam the components together without applying any special grammatical constructions. The only difference is that, in written English, new constructions must be written with a space in between. But in spoken English you can't hear spaces (by that I mean: there is no auditory gap between words that is different from the gaps between syllables within a word)

This is the same thing with the indigenous peoples of the north having a lot of words for snow. They combine multiple concepts into one word, to describe the kinds of snow.

With Inuit languages, it's more than this. They form "words" written without spaces that in European languages would be entire sentences!

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Inuit is an agglutinating language, so forms "words" which express entire sentences.

The lesson to learn from this is that the concept of "a word" is not necessarily comparable between two different languages and is a bit arbitrary.

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English has far more words for snow than the Inuit languages have. And as others have said dehydrate and it's conjugations serve this purpose in English, with dessicate and it's conjugations for the remains.

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Sprinkled, damp, moist, wet, soaked, drenched, sodden, inundated

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  1. thesaurus
  2. starvation already covers that as it means a lack of nourishment (of which water is very much a part.)

But if you’re looking for a phrase in prose “I am starving” and “I am parched” already carry the same weight.

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Thanks, I hate it.

I think the two cc's offend me somehow. But kudos for word making

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