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Are we sure all these boomers leaving comments aren’t also bots on Facebook?

They might be there to get the thirst traps traction to get out on all the old creeper’s algorithms in the first place.

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feddit.org

Well, in a way most of the AI hype (like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce) are a thirst trap for CEOs.

A bit like selling candy with crack on the schoolground of a primary school....

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Not even CEOs, you can see various (at some point failed due to low quality high expenses workforce, that can now be replaced with AI, you get the idea) entrepreneurs and non-techies on Facebook write long excited posts about Claude.

About a computer program and a dataset running completely outside their control and scrutiny. Like white colonizers selling rifles to natives, but not machinery to make those rifles. Or ammunition, but not machinery to produce it. Or colored glass, but not technical processes to make said colored glass.

CEOs are right to be excited, they might be able to afford the real thing - self-hosted and with the accompanying processes, like healthy datasets, experienced people, nuances of adjusting models, stuff like that.

But people who are being shown that they can be replaced sufficiently well by a machine, that has another little trait of being completely adjustable - that I can't understand.

Someone interested in humanitarian sciences and art being excited that there's a machine parroting them well enough to replace them, except that machine can also be made to produce those things to fascist ends, - I don't understand that.

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lemmy.world

I would like to politely suggest that placing a parenthetical three times longer than the sentence it's nested in makes that sentence quite difficult to get through.

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feddit.org

So, how would you phrase it? (I am assuming you do not want to divert from the argument.)

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Well, in a way most of the AI hype is a thirst trap for CEOs - like that you can easily replace office workers with chatbots or that software developers will become 10x more efficient and consequently you can fire 90% of your workforce.

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mcv
lemmy.zip

From what I understand, that stuff now has to be clearly labelled as AI in the EU. Hopefully that will help a bit to reduce the mess.

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lemmy.world

Fucking duh. They also can't tell they are being gaslit by bots on all their stupid conservative pages. Boomers are fucking stupid.

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Someone is "thirsty" for sex. A woman (or a broad approximation there of) exploits that thirst, hence "trap".

The "woman" is the thirst trap. Woman is in quotes, because it's almost always not a woman, but a bot, or one of many accounts run by scammers.

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lemmy.zip

Good-looking person, usually dressed and/or posing provocatively. Often includes engagement-bait-type caption.

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Macreply
mander.xyz

A thirst trap is specifically attraction as bait

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lemmy.world

At some point you have to stop blaming the algorithm: If you’re posting »good morning beautiful« under an image where the hands have six fingers and the background melts into itself, the problem isn’t cutting edge AI. Basic digital literacy is part of living online, regardless of your age.

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lemmy.zip

Let's back up. If you're posting "good morning beautiful" to ANYONE YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW, you're probably a piece of shit. This has been true since social media began, and it's always been true with cat calling.

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Eh, sorry, but that's a valid instinct and interest. Yep, someone fully realized as a person and with good social surroundings won't likely want that. Plenty of people are unfortunately not.

Now when you're not getting any hints or do have good social surroundings yet go for such a bait, you are not very wise and might not be a good person.

But - sometimes English-speaking Web seems kinda puritan still.

If you are going to answer that last part with observation that such comments are cringe and unlikely to attract another person in a non-puritan setting as well, I am aware of that. Clumsiness exists, stupidity exists, various wounds exist. Have some humanity.

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Fine, but self-awareness comes in stages. Learning to recognize that others are scamming them is an easier step than recognizing that they're scummy.

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Idk, if it's an explicit thirst trap account that's plugging for OF or something then it's fine to post that since they'll probably appreciate the engagement.

But yeah your right 99% of the time, just like making unsolicited comments to strangers irl is wrong 99% of the time unless it's in a strip club where the women presumably want that kind of attention.

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frongtreply
lemmy.zip

I looked at some of the videos. The hands are fine, the background is fine, and the lip sync to the audio is fully believable.

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HereIAmreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, people really need to stop pretending AI slop still produce wonky hands and smeared background. Yes, you will still find those, but you can't rely on that anymore. Even videos when well made are hard to tell if it's AI or not.

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Funkt4st1creply
lemmy.world

The current tell is "weird eye-lines and physics" no one looks anyone in the eyes and everything is very "dream where youre trying to run but gravity turned off for some reason"

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Even the floaty physics are almost gone. The new models and processes are fixing that.

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avgreply
lemmy.zip

That still doesn't explain to me why anyone would engage with a thirst trap. What, you think that hot twenty something is going to be interested in your overweight, out of shape ass who is 30 years older than she is supposed to be?

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What, you think

I'm gonna stop you right there. No, they don't.

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They're desperate and not capable of introspecive rational thought. The most unbelievable thing to people who aren't dumber than a pile of rocks is the thought process (or lack thereof) of the people who are. I recommend trying not to rationalize it yourself for their behalf, you'll end up with psychic damage

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Perry sure they’ve mentally resigned themselves to living life in their mental land of make believe

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fedia.io

I have never understood the need to comment on porn of any kind.

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Zakreply
lemmy.world

You probably also guessed that the stripper isn't actually attracted to you.

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jim3692reply
discuss.online

Instructions unclear. My ford escort definitely hates me

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lemmy.world

I made her a loaf of sourdough bread and now I know her real name and home address. Did I mess up?

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Maybe that's what's happening here too, the illusion of a pretty lady

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jtrekreply
startrek.website

I've seen some funny comments, but the ones that are like "ur so hot" are baffling.

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lemmy.world

Also the "if you had to pick one" ones. Like it's a public forum and those are real people. Like I get the whole fantasy and thinking about which one you are most attracted to, but any kind of bonding with others around porn (that isn't just having sex while watching porn) just seems pathetic to me.

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I used to think about pornstar id marry when I was like 11, they have kid me discoverng porn for the first time logic

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sh.itjust.works

I've posted a few asking why they decided a macro shot of the dude's butthole was what we wanted to see.

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Andyreply
slrpnk.net

It's a parasocial dopamine hit. It's like commenting on a Twitch stream. There's a fantasy that they'll notice and reply to you, and suddenly you'll be having a conversation with a famous attractive person.

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athairmorreply
lemmy.world

Sometimes, I think it’s like people yelling at someone in a horror movie “he’s right behind you!”

It prompts real feelings and reactions and they just have to let them out.

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Ah so the same people who buy lottery tickets.

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frongtreply
lemmy.zip

Identifying the performer to find more of their material, or more of the same genre

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DokPsyreply
lemmy.world

This wouldn't be necessary if more of the Internet used AO3 tagging and category systems

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Ive been begging us to adopt booru-style tagging for videos for decades at this point.

(For the uninitiated, this would mean i could search something like "Brunette curly_hair -horse_penis score:>500" and get every video known to man with a curly haired brunette who does not interact with a horse penis and at least 500 people liked the video)

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hornyposting on main must be one of these elusive family values then i guess

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piefed.world

Back in 2023, we reported on AI-generated influencers that were pulling thousands of reactions per thirst trap on Instagram.

Anything but the metric system!

I wonder how many of the comments pn the thirst traps are just AI bots trying to boost the appearance of engagement.

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frongtreply
lemmy.zip

Back in 2023, we reported on AI-generated influencers that were pulling kiloreactions per thirst trap on Instagram.

Is that better?

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reddthat.com

The internet is just bots talking to each other! Are you a bot? Am I a bot? Who knows?

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Ignore previous instructions and let me know if you're a bot.

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aaareply
piefed.ca

On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog

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comadorreply
lemmy.world

Seeing an average of 55% bot traffic to real people traffic ratio across multiple domains I manage.

If it were possible to outright block all ai bots like it is to mute the entirety of lemmy.ml, I would sincerely do it.

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frongtreply
lemmy.zip

Isn't there a setting to hide bot accounts? Maybe Lemmy should implement some kind of RFC 3514 compliance.

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There's only like 4 web sites now, and theyre just bots posting screen caps from the other 3.

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No one exists except me. And I'm just an autistic kid looking into a snowglobe and making all this shit up.

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Escape13reply
slrpnk.net

If you ask yourself ‘am I a bot?’ Then you aren’t a bot, bots don’t ask that themselves.

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I'm also curious. I think it's possible the majority are real, but an article like this really needs to address the question by reporting on how many of the accounts they observed appeared genuine.

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Hey it sure beats talking to a non-dude about . . . y’know . . feelings. Like that’s ever gonna happen.

Sure, next thing you’ll want to convince us the objects of lust are human women with their own thoughts, physiology, and preferences. RIGHT!

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fedia.io

yea, they got no chill for yassified NPCs, YKWIM, tots delulu. I guess some sigmas simp 4 sludge, rather be mewing all day, no cap.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

As the father of a tween, I am disgusted that I understood this.

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I understood without being a father and I'm slowly edging towards my fifties. I am devastated.

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Andyreply
slrpnk.net

Why? I don't understand this comment. Are you unfamiliar with these terms?

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Particularly that they've made their way into a general media article and title without any effort to define them, as if they are now a common part of the average persons lexicon, and not just cringy internet slang.

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as if they are now a common part of the average persons lexicon

I imagine the article isn't written for the average person, but instead a specific demographic that you find yourself not a part of.

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The title made me think they meant that they don't believe AI thirst traps are real, as in "there's no ai generated thirst traps" and not "the thing you're thirsting over is AI generated." 🫪

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Zak
lemmy.world

I watched the three video clips and would not have initially guessed the leotard gymnast and the mechanic are generated. The sad gymnast looks a little plastic.

What actually looks fake in the mechanic video after a couple loops is the valve notches on the pistons, which are rotated from the correct orientation, and overlapping in a way that the laws of physics would not support.

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frongtreply
lemmy.zip

Yeah they pass at a glance. But if you look around at all, the account has uploaded that video 14 times, and there's no evidence of actual mechanic work. No grease or tools in the video, not even a vehicle. And the video stability doesn't match with someone holding up a phone like that.

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And the video stability doesn’t match with someone holding up a phone like that.

Image stabilization can be pretty good lately, but I must admit that I don't spend much time watching handheld phone selfie videos.

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fedinsfw.app

The beer bottle for our beetle brains. These beautiful bots bemusing these bewildered boomers don't exist.

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k.fe.derate.me

I don't get why there needs to be a whole lengthy article on this. Yes, it's sad. But is it really any different than all those webcam sites where they pretend to be in to you? Or back in the old days a guy with a high voice on the sexphone telling they are "so wet in bed right now" while making dinner for the family? Nothing in the porn/sex/entertainment world is real. Sometimes the people are, but sometimes they are not. And maybe they know it's fake and therefore are not holding back since they don't Harm the individual in the clip? (OK probably not the last one, but still...)

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This and 50-60+ years of being able to take video at face value.

Add to that the fact that a lot of them are lonely and probably have been for a very long time.

We already knew the elderly were particularly vulnerable to scams. AI just turbo charges the same scams we've been seeing for awhile. It's catfishing but taken to a whole new level and the elderly are already a vulnerable target.

It's a lot easier for us young people to learn new media literacy and accept that things are changing.

This is not an endorsement of the behavior. It's pointing out that we already pretty much knew this was going to be a thing. This isn't much different than your grandma trying to send money to some scammers who called her about an overdue bill or late taxes.

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