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As a family owned and operated company, we are deeply concerned for those who became ill, their families, and the many Americans whose trust in the safety of their fresh produce has been shaken

What a fucking load of bull.

The likely reason for this outbreak is because you didn't provide toilets to your farm workers, who had to shit in the fields where they work.

Not even an apology for your workers, you PR scum.

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The parasite will tickle your intestines and force you to lose weight. All thanks to Don's Green Apple Splatter.

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Lol, Mexico's salads are just as bad as drinking there water, been there 😞

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I could use some of that diarrhea right about now.

feels like I'm pushing boulders through my colon.

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Jokes aside, your risk is much lower if you avoid pre-washed or pre-cut fruits and veggies. Anything left sitting in its own exuding juices is a shit attack waiting to happen.

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Totally cool so long as they stop pouring untreated sewage into the ocean. It's a bummer for the surfers and the ocean life.

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lemmy.world

This is only bizarre if you believe US propaganda that Mexico is a third-world shithole.

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lemmy.world

only one in this thread saying, "Mexico is a third-world shithole", is you.

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I'm in Chicago and the Canadian wildfire smoke swept through here making it look all sepia toned, and I thought yeah this is fair. We deserve to look like everything's made out of brown.

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lemmy.world

Lmao. I was at a grocery store the other day and buying some grapes. Some old 70+ year old lady said I shouldn't buy Mexican produce because they use poop for fertilizer. I laughed looked her in the face and asked her what she thought we used for fertilizer. She didn't like that.

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feddit.nl

There's a way to safely use poop for fertilizer. You have to compost it to kill pathogens first.

Neither counties do this, and that's one reason people get e-coli, parasites, and other diseases

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lemmy.ca

The Romans did not understand this. Archeology digs in Roman latrines concluded most Romans carried parasites.

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feddit.nl

Were those latrines lined? Did they place them sufficiently far from rivers and ground water?

I don't think they understood much about disease vectors and germ theory, in general.

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lemmy.ca

Pete Hegseth says germ theory is fake.

The concept of bacteria didn't appear until almost 800 years later. Romans used poop to fertilize fields, but did not treat it.

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And the guy who suggested germs exist (cadaver particles) was locked up in an insane institution, where he died.

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asked her what she thought we used for fertilizer.

70+-year-old ladies. It works so well because they're full of shit.

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lemmy.ca

Just published today in The Guardian:

The Trump administration has killed proposed regulations for sewage sludge contaminated with Pfas and spread on farmland as fertilizer, a practice that has sickened farmers, destroyed their livelihoods, killed livestock, polluted water supplies, and poisoned meat and food products sold to the public.

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wetshav.ing

Allowing continued spreading of PFAS contaminated sludge is beyond horrible because those chemicals will stay there permanently. Around 1/3 or so of USA cropland is already polluted from spreading of sludges. There is nothing in nature that can break PFAS down, so all that polluted land will have to literally be removed and stored similar to hazardous nuclear waste.

When we finally realize the damage and start work to repair it, it will be the largest remediation project in human history.

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I think nature will evolve/select some sort of bacteria that will digest PFAs and plastics, making it a problem that will solve itself. It'll only take a few hundred thousand years I reckon.

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lemmy.world

Real Americans use synthetic petroleum fertilizer like God intended.

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lemmy.world

If you're not an errant spark away from vaporizing the tri-county area by feeding your plants, can you really call yourself an american?

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My god it would have been so hard for me to reply to that politely.

Good on you for finding a way to do so.

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lemmy.world

Who the fuck is voluntarily going to the US in the first place?

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I first thought that your username is PlaidBacon and had to reread it.

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Actually a lot of the people were locals. There was an article on the Dutch news stating whenever the real Dutch supporters, saw other people wearing orange, the were mostly Americans.

According to the official figures, just released, out of the 6.5 million visitors, only 1.2 million were international visitors.

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Yea if you’re willing to give FIFA money why not give USA some money too. We’re not talking about the brightest bulbs here.

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The people went for the world cup, not for the US... obviously.

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aussie.zone

You couldn't pay me to tour the US atm. Well.. It would have to be very very high at least. All expenses paid wouldn't be close.

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lemmy.zip

I would also warn against coming here for the vomiting risk, there's currently a plague of fascistic bigotritis going around

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lemmy.today

This is a valid thing even without the current diarrhea epidemic.
US food is objectively shit, the poor quality and ingredients that are banned almost everywhere else being only some of many reaasons.

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Hard doubt that the usa would be in front of the 27 EU countries sharing a single food standard.

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lemmy.ml

Chlorinated chicken and hormone loaded beef are banned here in the UK and also the EU, I believe.

We don't chlorinate our chicken because we have standards of cleanliness that don't necessitate it.

You may feel it's safe, but most would not agree. A trade deal with the US that degrades our standards would make me feel nauseous.

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lemmy.ml

It's still washed with hydrogen peroxide. Use of chemicals in EU/UK is prohibited.

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"chlorinated chicken" is chicken that has been rinsed with what's essentially tap water.

Nowadays a mixture of hydrogen peroxide and vinegar is used in appropriately diluted solutions instead of the chlorine/water rinse because of this fear mongering you're displaying. The solution used is appropriately diluted, vinegar is edible, and hydrogen peroxide quickly breaks down into water and oxygen, so I don't know what you're scared of there.

All of these techniques result in about an order of magnitude less foodborne pathogens, when compared to chicken with no treatment.

Stop being afraid of "chemicals". I promise you the "use of chemicals" is not prohibited in the EU/UK, otherwise you'd have Europeans keeling over left and right from various foodborne illnesses.

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We do have chicken labeled as “air chilled” that is not treated, but you’re typically paying 50-100% more for that per pound.

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sh.itjust.works

I'm guessing the Global Food Security Index, which in 2019, had the US ranked 3rd. That's based on a composite score that takes food availability, nutrition, quality, and safety into account.

As of 2022, the index has been updated and the US's composite score puts it at 13th.

Edit: sauce

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lemmy.zip

The following parameters are considered for ranking countries in relation to food security:

  1. Nutritional standards

Uhuh. US you say?

And only 113 states?

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lemmy.world

It's called Montezuma's revenge on Mexico. So in America what should we call it?

Trump's Tummy Troubles? America's Enema?

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samus12345reply
sh.itjust.works

It's called that because Montezuma's Aztec Empire was destroyed by colonizers, so the equivalent should be the leader of a native tribe where the US is now. Sitting Bull's revenge?

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lemmy.ca

I'm all about mocking the American Century of Humiliation brought on by cuts to their food safety system, but in this case isn't there evidence that the contaminated lettuce was originally sourced from Mexico? I'm not super big on trusting any evidence from the MAGA admin but AFAIK that's all we've got.

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In this case It's less about the source and more about the cuts to FDA/CDC to trace and mitigate. Like it was US-based lettuce that was the problem then obviously there's be an additional layer of accountability.

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Malycareply
lemmy.zip

FDA said yesterday it was a false positive

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Yeah, I don't trust this administration to not cover it up to save face. No way of knowing what kinds of talks have been happening behind closed doors at the white house.

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in 2024, they had to recall another crop that had E coli which caused more severe disease then self-limiting diarrhea, and resulted in one death. E.coli strains(O15H7) that produces Shiga toxins is pretty dangerous. the crop was oNIONs, that was used by mcdonalds.

seems taylor farms is supplies a majority of the veggies you see in stores. alot of chains seem to sell taylor farm salads, and other vegetables.

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lemmy.world

I'm dumb and/or not following this at all. What does that mean in this context: that they can't actually say that the lettuce was from Mexico?

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Malycareply
lemmy.zip

Likely it means the farm bribed Trump to call it a false positive to save reputation. They had donated a million to him before.

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probably protection racket, in case they get a class action suit agains tthem, he will try intefere.

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This is the diplomatic way to say "takes one to know one" in response to the accusation of "shithole country."

We are actively, aggressively dismantling as much vital government services as we can to pad the bottom lines of as many oligarchs as possible with the continued Trickle Down Reagan Economics promises that need just one more election cycle to come to fruition, despite all available data pointing to the contrary.

... but if the data is "woke" I guess it's to be ignored.

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They aren't jokes. There are many places in Mexico where the tap water is not safe to drink or to use to wash vegetables for anyone non-local.

In the US, some lettuce is contaminated and not safe to consume.

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lemmy.world

Even without the current rash of lettuce etc. Mexicans can get a form of "Montezuma's revenge" (Alamo revenge?) from eating in America, because their guts aren't used to the local bacteria. This can happen any time you travel internationally - especially if you eat any kind of street food.

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feddit.nl

No. No no no.

To compare this to bacteria is a mistake.

This is a parasite that only spreads from feces. If you get this parasite, it's because you're literally eating shit. That's nothing like airborne bacteria. Having shit in your food is a catastrophic and easily avoidable thing.

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