Border czar warns there will be more ‘bloodshed’ unless Democrats ‘shut their mouths’
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Jesus fucking Christ. The article is worse than I thought. "Our guys are scared for their lives! Even though we are the ones doing all the murdering, we will have to murder even more of you if you don't start obeying us, though our instructions are clear as mud and we aren't even following our own laws!"
So basically shut up and let us keep breaking the law or you die.
And the law breaking includes making people die. Also don't be anywhere near a live ICE because they might just do things like break into your home and that's your fault somehow.
Well, Americans are fucking cowards so this is absolutely how it will go- and then they’ll die anyway.
Not sure why you're being downvoted for being right. They can't shoot for shit either.
There is nothing on earth more whiny, hostile, and overly defensive than a white American liberal on the internet being told to back up their stated values with action.
Ah, "this is your fault" stage of abuse.
Obviously never going to happen, but i bet if the Dems did shut their mouth the bloodshed will continue as planned.
There will be more bloodshed until Democratic lawmakers and like-minded people abolish ICE
This.
I'm honestly surprised how meek the resistance has been. Would have expected a driveby or two at least somewhere at some point over the last 2 years. Nope! No randos have just gone up to an ICE guy and popped them in the head. Makes sense for Stepford, but ICE in the hood?
Playing the victim…presumption of guilt…claims with no evidence…yay fascism…
"...this is why we have to shoot innocent people dead before they do anything illegal just to be sure ICE is safe". - Homan probably
It was self defense. I got in front of the car and it was slowly moving in my general direction. My legs suddenly stopped working so I wouldn't be able to get out of the way if the car suddenly accelerated and my only option was to preemptively shoot to kill.
So he's literally saying the beatings will continue until morale improves‽
No, he's literally saying "the murders will continue"
Full stop.
"Look what you made me do!" -abuser
That's a threat and he should be referred to the Capitol police.
You mean his own friends and the people who confirmed him into the position?
no idiot, he threatened democrats, who are also members of congress with rights. most importantly police dont confirm anyone lol
And who appoints the Capitol Police board?
That doesnt change laws and rights. Go back to civics class.
You can be in the right all you want, it won't make them obey rules they want to apply to only their detractors.
Ultimately this comes down to force used to enforce the rules, and whether it will be used.
Ok sport...
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"The law" Is just a set of nice sounding words on some piece of paper. If someone in power gets held accountable its usually because they lost the support of key supporters.
Victim’s families should use this as evidence they do this on purpose.
Anyone who says shit like this needs ….
... to be about 1 head shorter than they currently are.
Fuck you Homan, you're going to die in a cell in the Hague. This statement will be played back for you at your trial.
No American will die in the hague, in jail maybe but probably not. Even the most leftist president wouldn't give up American sovereignty to the icc.
I’d like to see all these traitors die at the noose or the end of a gun barrel personally
Guillotine would also be acceptable.
And I'd like a puppy that speaks English and shits gold, but I'm not a child who believes in shit that's never going to happen.
i prefer an american prison.
The midterms will decide whether it is a troubled peace or a violent war that defines the next era of America.
I will keep speaking, and if it comes down to it, bear arms against tyrants.
As if staying silent would stop the killing.
Looks like a good justification for any interaction with ICE being an exercise in self defense. He just upended ICE's legal basis for being held to be law abiding by any reasonable person. On top of being fascist, what an inept dipshit.
None of that matters.
This dickhead still has not had consequences for taking 50K in that bribery sting, right?
Anyway, this is some classic DARVO shit right here.
SoapboxBallotbox
Jury boxAmmo box
That second one is rapidly declining in potential effectiveness
The ballot box is what brought us here. Every election for decades has resulted in more cops and more surveillance.
We have more cops in America now per capita than nazi Germany had at the height of WWII, and that's including all the gestapo, SS, and military police in the German count. DC has an enforcer with a gun and no consequences for every 60 people.
BuT iF wE tAkE aCtIoN, tHeY wIlL use It As JuStIfIcAiOn FoR vIoLeNcE
Shout-out to Obama for giving us this guy.
From Homan's wikipedia:
"By 2014, under the Obama administration, Homan began to argue that separating children from their caregivers would be an effective way to discourage illegal border crossings. The journalist Caitlin Dickerson has called him the "intellectual father" of the policy, which he outlined years before the Trump administration adopted it. "Most parents don't want to be separated", Homan told Dickerson. He argued that this makes separation an effective tool for immigration enforcement: "I'd be lying to you if I didn't think that would have an effect."[9]
In 2015, the Obama administration awarded him a Presidential Rank Award as a Distinguished Executive."
I cant beleive Obama appointed him and gave him an award after he suggested separating kids from their parents. Just monstrous. Eff you for that one, Barack.
Thanks Obama!
That guy rapes kids. I'd bet money on it.
I can't tell if you're joking or not, but in reality you're probably right. This kind of overt, arrogant, conscienceless disregard for the humanity of others is always just the tip of the evil shitberg they're made of under the skin.
Or to put it another way, a man who does not care about the abuse, torture, and murder of thousands is not going to give two shits about the right of a child to live unharmed. And just as he feels entitled to do what he will to the living bodies of immigrants, he will feel entitled to do the body of anyone else that lacks the power to stop him.
It never fucking ends with these kinds of gleefully evil people: whatever horrendous amorality you see in front of you, there's ALWAYS more where that came from.
You made me hit you
So protesting and calling out their crimes and sharing video and making a racket must not be as pointless as some would have us all believe, because Tom Homan himself is desperate to shut it down.
The LAST fucking thing any sentient human being should do is shut their mouth against these murders and crimes against humanity.
Anyone who cares enough to yell, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
His full phrase was
Umm, can we talk about that very last bit?
First Amendment, anyone? Fellow Yanks??
They who, Tom? They fucking who? Because ICE is not a legislative body and cannot enact laws.
Even if he's implying immigration laws enacted by congress, those laws do not have death as a punishment for ANY violations.
It's not even a crime, it's a civil infraction.
What's a civil infraction? Protesting ICE? Letting people know about their rights? 🤔
Being undocumented.
I see. However the threat was against people (Democrats all, apparently) working against ICE. None of their actions are even civil offences.
The beatings will continue until morale improves.
Fuck you Tom Homan, you fuckin' fascist.
Go die.
Literally trying to TERRORIZE Americans into compliance. Ice is a terrorist organization
Don't forget that we are being run by a mafia-wannabe, and every "protection" demand is also a threat.
This is the equivalent of "It'd be a shame if something happened to your nice flower shop. But if you do what we say we can protect you." And it also may very well be a signal to the lawbreakers in and out of government to demonstrate that the violence will continue. I don't doubt a Proud Boy could see this as a suggestion to shut a Democrat lawmaker's mouth.
Fuck this weeb. Only way you will shut my mouth is murdering me in cold blood like ice does to everyone else fucking Nazi scum.
Tom Homan playing Sister Mary Elephant.
Tom something I think
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Homan
Name checks out. Humans have the capacity for empathy and understanding. Tom over here can't even masquerade as a real human being successfully.
Tom soon-to-be-tossed-into-a-woodchipper
I mean, if he'd rather we open a clip on his ass. I'd have thought words were preferable, but if that's what he wants...
care to walk that back so we can try to play nice?
Has there been any clips opened?
I find I don't need to read Philip K Dick novels anymore, I just watch the world...
Time to rewatch a scanner darkly. I need one of those suits.
I'm thinking more of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Albemuth
"The story is set in the late 1960s in an alternate reality of the United States. The country is ruled by Ferris F. Fremont, a psychopathic, paranoid president. Fremont has established a police state in which civil rights have been suspended. Everyone spies on everyone else, coordinated by the paramilitary youth organization FAP (Friends of the American People). Anyone who disobeys is branded a member of “Aramchek”—a communist underground organization presumably fabricated by the regime. "
Ooh. Have to give that a read. A bit depressing given current events tho.
If this guy is married his wife totally has bruises under her outfit.
The Homunculus has mumbled!!!
That tiny Nazi is really going to blame Democrats for the people he and his goons murder?
I bet he blames his wife for her own black eye.
maybe this is a radical take, but i think it's funny that they call someone 'the border czar' with a straight face and then he doesn't even look like a hardass. he looks like some random fat dude that's melting from age, wearing a likely expensive suit that gives the impression it's an off the rack ensemble purchased at the men's wearhouse at a steep discount.
a perfect symbol for america.
stop worrying about it. these people already lost.
a mumbling Homan-culus
I’ve received criticism from people when i comment that usa people are losing their rights. Then this guy says this! How could i be so stupid! /s
What? I've never run into anyone here who would have argued against that.
This is our future. There's no revolution coming. No one will stop it. Get used to it and try not to get turned in by your MAGA neighbor.
Your nihilism does nothing but feed their machine.