Now that you say that, it's really an odd, surreal experience. Were my fellow children unique, and just did not grow up, and made a blend of their childhood and what should be adult pursuits, or were people in the past just as fucked up, but all they had to make porn of was Charles Dickens and Dante and such?
I don't even mean because it's episodic, it just pops right back out of my brain. Just about to finish watching all of succession, an episode a day, and couldn't tell you half of what happened unless you remind me.
That's the worst for me. If I binge it just goes into the big Binge Pot of Media Memories in my head. If I watch it daily or weekly, then I'm thinking about it and talking about it, ie interacting with the material, as it's coming out.
Reasonable for a 3 season show, completely insane for an 8 season one
Did that with GoT and my brain melted from so much. You end up needing to take a break mid way through anyway, might as well just watch them when the season comes out and watch a recap
I've taken to calling this kind of media "Mandatory Adult Television." I think the first of its species was Lost; there were predecessors with some similar traits like The X Files or The Sopranos, heavily serialized adult content television that was very popular water cooler talk, but Lost was the first one I remember as segmenting the population into those who follow he show, and those who don't. Game of Thrones was THE big one. You either watched Game of Thrones or you weren't allowed to socialize as an adult. "Hey, did you see Game of Thrones last night?" "No, I don't watch that show." "Oh. Bye." For nearly a decade. No one wants to talk about that show anymore. Same with Lost.
What, in your mind, is "fantasy?" Because for a genre whose name implies imagination and creativeness, it seems pretty pigeonholed into the European medieval folklore/fairy tale aesthetic somewhere between King Arthur and JRR Tolkien.
I'd agree with that, and most people will probably never venture outside of the hole you've described. For my money it's a book that has to do with fantastical elements that can't easily be lumped into science-fiction.
When I turned in my iPad (Air 4) due to some issues with magnetic covers within warranty, I got a free replacement and a 90-day trial to Apple TV+. I watched Ted Lasso (all 3 seasons), Silo and Severance during these 3 months.
I'm not sure why you only got 7 days, but I would assume that Apple gives a longer trial to people who just got a new iDevice.
ps. I should mention that if I were to get a new tablet today, I would get one from Samsung.
I don't wanna overanalyze the meme, but it is irritating when you can't have a conversation with someone without their whole identity being based on whatever they've recently watched. Then if you haven't seen it, them uncreatively explaining the plot to you.
Growing up in the years before and during Cable television, I am positive television was the most talked about topic over any and all aside from basic hello.
And if you didn't have cable, well you'd get filled in on whatever, but were oddly OK with it.
It’s a shared experience, like the weather. Usually in person with somebody who experiences the same weather, but comparing/contrasting weather with friends across the country (US, so that can be pretty far) works sometimes too.
Seen one of those (The Boys). Maybe two if you count the first season of Westworld (don't plan on watching more because it's supposed to be shite).
I only really bother with Mike Flanagan's single season stuff on Netflix, because the man knows how to open and close a story. Others should take note. Don't start a story unless you know how it's going to end and how long it's going to take to get there.
"This is popular, let's make more" is an attitude that has ruined television.
They don't care about the quality of television. Writing a story that goes on and on and offers the possibility of several spinoffs is the equivalent of micro-transactions in video games : they make more money that way.
Capitalism only maximizes money, it doesn't maximize quality. It eats quality to make more money.
The model worked back when episodes were self contained. I don't need to see seasons 1-20 (or whatever they're up to now) of The Simpsons to understand the latest episode. Old Star Trek was the same. You didn't need a huge back story. Kirk/Picard and chums were the good guys. The guy with the plastic on his face and angry eyes was the bad guy. It was easy.
But stretching a simple story over 10 seasons of gradually declining quality is nonsense. By their own logic we can only have a conclusion when the quality has declined to the point that nobody cares what happens. Might as well not even have an ending at that point.
Couldn't get into Lower Decks. Not interested in 'comedy' ST. As for SNW, I watch it, but not sold on it yet. I watched TNG episode "The Bonding" today. Nothing after ENT (S3 and S4) has approached the level of writing of that episode. Except maybe that one S2 episode of SNW. You know exactly what episode I'm talking about. It's the only episode.
Agreed about Flanagan. I feel like now’s the time to have more one season stories for easier digestion. Especially since so many of them turn to shit so quickly. Ted Lasso being a recent example. Holy shit that last season was horrendous.
It's the same thing in video games and books, people chasing money or lack skill go after the most popular genres even if they themselves don't really have any interest in it and produce mediocre products that have 0 passion in them.
I should really watch more stuff from Flanagan, I though midnight mass was alright even if it dragged it's feet in the middle.
I had to stop watching at some point, it was just too close to home. The overall feeling was just like christmas at home and I don't go anymore, because I value my sanity more these days. Holy shit what an episode.
Also Mr. Robot and Foundation and Good Omens and Fleabag and the new Beavis and Butthead and Station Eleven and Doctor Who is about to get good again and Irma Vep was great but I don't think that one's coming back
Season 2 is definitely the slowest season I think. It's a bit of a slog but it's doing a lot of the legwork for seasons 3 and 4 to go wild so it does kind of pay off in the long run IMO.
Same, Baulder's Gate 3 is out. It's fantastic and I don't have much motivation to spend money on it. TOTK takes up all the time I allow myself to play video games. I still haven't even started Elden Ring.
It's also not a "flashy" show, so you don't get the fatigue of the writer constantly one-upping themselves to shock you. It's just a fun drama with some great characters and actors. Once you've seen it, you'll join the ranks of those who yell "OMG IT"S AVON BARKSDALE" everytime you see Harris on screen, or any number of the other actors.
I've seen half the shows listed and they're all pretty decent. And this is from someone who just cycles one subscription and watches whatever looks interesting on the current subscription.
It's not about demonizing the person sharing. It's about the feeling of being overwhelmed because there's so much shit you haven't seen and will never see. You will never have enough time to get through that list and that can feel bad.
Yeah that’s about it. I also think it’s about the dawning realisation that this medium or format of storytelling has become increasingly commercialised; and that in spite of the vast hours of content available, there is paradoxically less genuine narrative than ever.
I'm just now watching the 20 year old tv show "the wire" and its better than the 5 of these I have watched (of those 5, I'd only recommend the "the bear")
Oh man, I'm just starting that one myself. West Wing. Sopranos. For some reason, if you can get past the old-person video quality, 20 years ago was peak TV. Gen-X is mostly a waste of oxygen and natural resources, but their art (TV, music) was a Renaissance era.
No! That's not true! We've just kept the best shows from that era! For every "The Wire" there were a dozen other terrible shows airing at the same time. It's true that there were fewer shows on TV so there were less to pick from but believe me, in another 10 years people are going to only point to "Breaking Bad" and other shows (Sherlock? Mr. ROBOT? Dexter? Game of thrones minus the last season? we can't say for sure right now) as amazing and they'll say "damn, 20 years ago was peak TV."
I will say though, it's impressive that HBO is really the only production company to consistently produce the best TV.
Two more than me. I did start watching Westworld but it was too gruesome. It's a shame that programs with good storylines have to ruin it with too much gratuity.
What's gratuity in this context? English is my second language and an the dictionary nor online searches for things like "gratuity in tv shows" were of much help. I saw most of one episode; do you mean the soft porn?
Oh, he’s doing that because he feels like he’s missing out? I thought the joke was that he curled into fetal position because the guy is peppering him with questions and is feeling overwhelmed.
I had a boss that’d always try to talk about films, TV, and frequently referenced actors to me, and I’d always feel a bit bad that I never got it.
I imagine you have your own methods to handle these types of discussions, but this is my trick.
"Have you watched random niche show you've never heard of?"
"No, but I've heard it's pretty decent. What's it about?"
At this point, you can check out of the conversation while they talk about a show you'll never see. Personally, I like to half listen because I like to hear about stuff people have a passion for
I do try to engage in conversations about it when prompted to, but I always feel rather bad when they ask and can somehow instantly tell that I have absolutely no clue.
I like to think he’s overwhelmed by an instant realisation of his own brief mortality in the face of what must be hundreds of cumulative hours of shows that he will most likely never watch
Wow if I have to resort to speed up something then I'm watching it because I have to, not because I want to. May I ask, which ones? Of those, the only one that I have on my Maybe Someday List is The Last of Us.
Why is that out of interest? Plenty of shows here have been universally acclaimed and I don't think there are many people who wouldn't love at least one of the shows here.
What are some of your favourite shows you have seen? I'd be curious what you enjoy if there's nothing in this list that appeals.
Honestly I haven't heard about the majority in the list, and those I did just didn't grab my attention. I'm not saying they are bad shows. I can't speak of what I haven't watched.
It's difficult to get me to follow up on a series. I prefer movies. When I do series, it's likely to be animation. Bojack Horseman comes to mind as something I've watched recently, that isn't ages old, and that I've enjoyed a lot. HAPPY! is another, mostly live action, but I still need to finish S2. All other examples of live action tv shows I've watched a substantial amount of eps are from before streaming became standard, and even then I haven't finished a lot of those.
I think it's because of something in the way shows are marketed + my personal experiences of trying shows and not liking them/getting bored. It irks me when the plot quality of a show goes down as the series progresses. I see a movie trailer and I get a pretty good idea if it's worth my time or not, but that's not the case with long format shows.
If you had to sell me some of the shows in the comic, which ones would be and why?
Sounds totally fair enough mate. I'm not really the person to ask because most of these shows are shows I want to watch but haven't yet. Last of Us is fantastic though and the boys is as enjoyable as any superhero property imo, mainly because it feels like it's pretty much what would actually happen in our world if superheros existed and doesn't pull any punches (literally), where every other show would just give you a sound effect while it cuts to someone's reaction, the boys will give you slow motion and high focus so you can see the details of someone's head being pulled off their body or something equally (often more) horrific.
Ted Lasso sounds more likely to grab you from that list if only because it's 30min episodes and relies on humour more than plot. But this is still based on others opinions, it's just a show I still want to watch at the moment so I could hate it yet. I tend to find that most things which are universally acclaimed are well worth watching though.
No worries. Another show that sprang to mind which isn't in this list is the legend of vox machina.
It's an amazon prime series based on critical role and follows the first campaign relatively faithfully (so far). It came to mind because it's an animation and the setting and plots are well thought out. Characters have been played by the voice actors for literally hundreds of hours before the show was even conceived so whilst there are clichés aplenty, the characters are fully formed and fleshed out from the start. I'm biased because I was addicted to CR since the early days but the show really stands up on its own in my opinion.
It sounds corny as fuck but it's one that was 100% made with love and if you like adult cartoons I really recommend it.
Ooh! I was going to say that I haven't watched any of these shows, nor even heard of half of them. But, I've probably got common ground with you if you give me a similar list of books/series.
Have just finished the Mortal Instruments series, which apparently was turned into a TV show called "Shadow Hunters". No idea if it was any good, though.
Video games feel different. Like I feel like I've accomplished something good for myself after playing a game. Shows just make me restless for the most part.
I've thought about that. Games, especially ones with development like RPGs, provide that sense of accomplishment that life rarely gives or doesn't give clearly. Promotions at work might be years apart, buying a house, etc but I can feel like I got something done on a daily basis in games, plus I get a little chime sound and a popup when I do!
I think the (mostly) simplified morality is appealing too. Like in an RPG I know exactly what the right thing to do is, it's the one that's clearly marked at the "good" dialogue choice.
Whereas in real life it's like... am I doing the right thing? Should I be an engineer and donate to good causes, or should I be actively contributing to good causes and choose to earn less money? Should I become an eco-terrorist?? Lol stuff like that
People are so different, I feel exactly the opposite. There's a bunch of games I'd want to play, but most of the time when I'm about to start playing, I'm just overcome with the feeling of "What's the point? It's just a waste of time". When I'm watching a show I'm processing a shit-ton of stuff, emotions, life, depression. Games are just "for fun". I just don't seem to get the same out of games no matter how "deep" or whatever they are. I accomplish something in a game, 99% of the time I just feel "Well, I could've used all that time and energy doing something real and now I just wasted all that time for some virtual character in a virtual world.".
Objectively I know I'm not accomplishing anything real when I play a game, but they still capture my "whole brain" like what you describe when watching a show.
I wonder where the difference comes from. Maybe I'm just more fidgety, so having something tactile to work on while watching the screen does it for me. :P
I fail to understand why the appointment cannot be carried out sitting down captain this seems illogical and highly irregular. Is the ship short of suitable seating equipment?
Don’t even get started with anime, I feel like there’s sooo many good shows but each one has over 600 episodes and I won’t ever get time to watch it all
Euphoria is garbage most people will agree with that. The ones that you should watch is succession and the boys, last of us is pretty mid and having watched severance I don't know why people are so excited about it.
succession is overrated. If you want to watch five people being absolute garbage: 20 minutes of "It's always Sunny" will get you to that full feeling of "why am I watching this" and save like an entire season of succession.
The world is very interesting the main characters the escort quest is not. All the villains are basically a throwaway that last 2 episodes if they are lucky. Also the girl/boy with special stuff that needs to be taken to dangerous X place is such a tired trope.
After seeing "The Watcher" in the corner, which is an obvious play on "The Witcher", I am assuming the other half is made up names so that the comic resonates with people who watch shows as well.
I am out of touch and I don't recognize 85% of the names, and I am suspecting that those are made up so that the comic resonates with informed people as well. And the artist seems to have little imagination ("The Watcher" is obviously a play on "The Witcher").
Each season was better than the last and it wrapped up really nicely but liking his stuff in general is required. Nothing was better than Vice Principals, imo.
I wasn't a Danny McBride fan until I watched gemstones. After I finished it, I immediately binged Vice Principals. That being said, if you don't like this type of "mean(?)" comedy, chances are you won't change your mind.
It's an acquired taste like shitty wine or raw cinnamon.
My wife and I have like 3 comfort shows that we just rewatch all year round. And this is kind of how it's like when we meet up with our friends who have watched everything new as it releases.
Stopped watching shows, only torrenting old stuff and the odd cartoon here or there. Picked up comics recently though, lots of stuff coming out but it's oddly different, it feels more like record collecting.
I get it. My wife and I still watch TV shows but it's at a slow place. This idea of watching an entire season in a few days is lost on me. I watch about 2 to 4 hours a week so seasons usually take a while.
I usually set time to watch one or two episodes of a series rotated daily. Made it feel like the olden days with the added bonus of not getting burned out binging all the series.
I get that people exist who have no interest in actually watching, but if you're on social media (lemmy included) it seems impossible to have actually not heard of these.
Clearly I'm wrong though, it just really surprised me.
I'm a big fan of serpadesign, he inspired me into terrariums and last month I made a small fish bowl, which I am planning to move to a proper fish tank that I will DIY from IKEA glass shelves as in one of his videos.
No desire to see Wednesday. I did just notice westworld though, I liked that one and it makes two with Ted lasso. Tried Euphoria and hated it after 10 minutes. Started the last of us but wife hated it and am waiting for a chance when she’s not around.
So I totally missed half of them on the last panel. I was thinking Ted lasso but I did see the boys. That’s what I get for lemmying while taking my half asleep morning poo.
Out of all of those, I only saw Russian doll. Did it ever come back? There was a huge gap after season 2, and it didn't finish the story at all. Never heard of it was continued, I haven't had Netflix since I stopped getting it for free with my phone bill.
You misunderstood while you catch up more shows episodes appear and you never catch up. Well the WGA strike.might help a little there, but not for games well...not sure I think there was a plan for games to be affected to now that It hibk about it.
I think with an extra 40 hours free time a week for a year I could catch up with everything I want to see in a year. That's 2000 extra episodes of 1hr TV I could watch. I reckon I could manage it while also watching a couple new shows.
Games are a bit different, usually I play one or 2 time intensive games in a year but I don't expect to play all the big releases even with no job. 3 or 4 years should allow me to catch up with the ones I feel like I've missed and want to play in the last 5 or 10 years though.
I only heard of 3. I am suspecting most of the rest are made up names (The Watcher seems like an obvious play on The Witcher) so that the comic resonates with informed people as well.
Been boycotting the media for about a decade. It frankly makes it difficult to make small talk when you refuse to know about the latest trends that Big Media sells to the populace
As someone who very rarely watches series, this really hits home. I just rarely have the patience to do so, and because of that I also don't have any streaming subscriptions. I'd rather play games, because the interaction makes them a lot more rewarding to me. To each their own though, other people don't play games so they'll have the same problem with me
I only watch shows when they are done airing the last season / episode. Few exceptions.. like mindless comedy shows that have no ongoing story arch through the seasons.. like the simpsons.
Why not 2nd? I watched first back then and now I saw this post and recalled. I loved the first one and was considering to watch the 2nd. Never thought there would be a 2nd season to this.
The story was finished at the end of the 1st season. The 2nd is a completely different premise and idk, I just don't think it was as enjoyable or as well thought-out
I only watched maybe two episodes of the second season. It switched to a Quantum Leap type situation where she jumped through time into another person.
I get what you're saying here, but in all seriousness there's no good reason to have not watched Yellowjackets by now. You can do better. It's easily the best show of the last 10 years.
It had potential to be great, but falls far from that. Some cringe-inducing writing and acting there. It was fun and entertaining enough to watch. Hope the next season is better.
Why does anyone watch new TV when there are perfectly good copies of every season of Gargoyles they could be pirating?
I don't know why, but this reminds me of my favorite Hank Hill quote: "Why would anybody want to do drugs when you can just mow a lawn?"
Can't take the mower to the club, not anymore.
not since somebody used the lawnmower after the drugs
MISTER PIIIICKLES
Same energy
Never seen gargoyles. Only porn of it.
Is it any good?
This is the lasting legacy of my childhood TV experience...porn 😔
Gargoyles...porn
Tiny toons...porn
Sonic the Hedgehog...porn
It's all porn now.
Just as god intended, I'll tell you hwat.
It's the internet. That's what it's for. 😄
Now that you say that, it's really an odd, surreal experience. Were my fellow children unique, and just did not grow up, and made a blend of their childhood and what should be adult pursuits, or were people in the past just as fucked up, but all they had to make porn of was Charles Dickens and Dante and such?
Sounds like you may be unfamiliar with Tijuana Bibles, as they were called. You might find their history interesting.
It's okay but it's a bit distracting what with all the sexy gargoyles
Based
How many times do we need to pirate them before we can watch new shows?
Also all anyone needs is The Wire, been watching that recently and it's so good
You can stop watching Gargoyles when the voice of Keith David is available as a default TTS client on every phone.
We live in a machine learning world, don't let your dreams be dreams.
Follow that up with Oz.
We talking bout Goliath, Hudson, Bronx, Brooklyn and the rest of the gang? Them gargoyles?
I've never identified with someone else's comment so hard.
I am out of the loop with this one, are you referring to the cartoon series?
Yes?
And then for one, "yeah I like that show!"
"Oh do you remember when x did y?"
...No, I forgot everything that happened a week later.
I'm so glad it isn't just me. I've been concerned I might have memory issues because this happens in my life so much.
For real, how do people remember such details from the shows they watch.
Might just be interest. I can't remember yesterday, but I remember every bit of Halo lore that I've read.
One the upside, you can watch a show all over again like it's the first time!
That's why you wait until it finish airing and then marathon the whole thing.
I don't even mean because it's episodic, it just pops right back out of my brain. Just about to finish watching all of succession, an episode a day, and couldn't tell you half of what happened unless you remind me.
You can't make a Tomlette without breaking some Greggs.
That's the worst for me. If I binge it just goes into the big Binge Pot of Media Memories in my head. If I watch it daily or weekly, then I'm thinking about it and talking about it, ie interacting with the material, as it's coming out.
Reasonable for a 3 season show, completely insane for an 8 season one
Did that with GoT and my brain melted from so much. You end up needing to take a break mid way through anyway, might as well just watch them when the season comes out and watch a recap
Then you can do it one season at a time..
Well, sure, but that's why you read GoT and don't watch it. Also, bad endings and all that.
I've taken to calling this kind of media "Mandatory Adult Television." I think the first of its species was Lost; there were predecessors with some similar traits like The X Files or The Sopranos, heavily serialized adult content television that was very popular water cooler talk, but Lost was the first one I remember as segmenting the population into those who follow he show, and those who don't. Game of Thrones was THE big one. You either watched Game of Thrones or you weren't allowed to socialize as an adult. "Hey, did you see Game of Thrones last night?" "No, I don't watch that show." "Oh. Bye." For nearly a decade. No one wants to talk about that show anymore. Same with Lost.
People aren't good with small talk and stuff like this is one of the few things you'd be likely to have in common.
I like to pretend like I know what they're talking about and see how far I can get before they catch on.
See also sports as a method of excluding adults social interaction.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Sick reference bro! I feel included for knowing it! Thank you!
I didn't watch Game of Thrones, and I didn't feel like I needed to. What between everyone talking about it, it was hard to miss what was happening.
I do like that it introduced so many people to fantasy!
What, in your mind, is "fantasy?" Because for a genre whose name implies imagination and creativeness, it seems pretty pigeonholed into the European medieval folklore/fairy tale aesthetic somewhere between King Arthur and JRR Tolkien.
I'd agree with that, and most people will probably never venture outside of the hole you've described. For my money it's a book that has to do with fantastical elements that can't easily be lumped into science-fiction.
Sounds like peer pressure.
Severance is great. I watched it on my 3-month trial to Apple TV.
Yeah agreed, really enjoyed it! I watched it on uh... yeah, free trial thing as well.
Yeah. I got it there too. There was this black flag with a skull on it...
You got 3 months!? I got 7 days; barely got a few eps of Ted Lasso in
When I turned in my iPad (Air 4) due to some issues with magnetic covers within warranty, I got a free replacement and a 90-day trial to Apple TV+. I watched Ted Lasso (all 3 seasons), Silo and Severance during these 3 months.
I'm not sure why you only got 7 days, but I would assume that Apple gives a longer trial to people who just got a new iDevice.
ps. I should mention that if I were to get a new tablet today, I would get one from Samsung.
Target gives out 1-3 month Apple trials from time to time.
I don't wanna overanalyze the meme, but it is irritating when you can't have a conversation with someone without their whole identity being based on whatever they've recently watched. Then if you haven't seen it, them uncreatively explaining the plot to you.
TV shows are just an easy conversational topic... that's all it is.
Growing up in the years before and during Cable television, I am positive television was the most talked about topic over any and all aside from basic hello.
And if you didn't have cable, well you'd get filled in on whatever, but were oddly OK with it.
It makes sense, people connect through shared experiences, and TV is an easy way to do that.
500 yrs ago we'd be standing in line at the grist mill chatting about the royal parade a few days ago.
Not a cell phone in sight. People just out there living their lives. Occasionally dropping dead of tuberculosis. The good ol' days.
Yea you're right, I can't be too upset.
It is? Then I guess I am a shitty conversational partner.
It's not the ONLY conversation topic.
It’s a shared experience, like the weather. Usually in person with somebody who experiences the same weather, but comparing/contrasting weather with friends across the country (US, so that can be pretty far) works sometimes too.
Seen one of those (The Boys). Maybe two if you count the first season of Westworld (don't plan on watching more because it's supposed to be shite).
I only really bother with Mike Flanagan's single season stuff on Netflix, because the man knows how to open and close a story. Others should take note. Don't start a story unless you know how it's going to end and how long it's going to take to get there.
"This is popular, let's make more" is an attitude that has ruined television.
They don't care about the quality of television. Writing a story that goes on and on and offers the possibility of several spinoffs is the equivalent of micro-transactions in video games : they make more money that way.
Capitalism only maximizes money, it doesn't maximize quality. It eats quality to make more money.
The model worked back when episodes were self contained. I don't need to see seasons 1-20 (or whatever they're up to now) of The Simpsons to understand the latest episode. Old Star Trek was the same. You didn't need a huge back story. Kirk/Picard and chums were the good guys. The guy with the plastic on his face and angry eyes was the bad guy. It was easy.
But stretching a simple story over 10 seasons of gradually declining quality is nonsense. By their own logic we can only have a conclusion when the quality has declined to the point that nobody cares what happens. Might as well not even have an ending at that point.
The new Star Trek, Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks, both go back to the standalone episodic model. And they are the best since DS9.
They have a DS9-style balance where there is an overarching story, but it's usually not the focus. The Lower Deckers are now Lieutenant junior grades.
Couldn't get into Lower Decks. Not interested in 'comedy' ST. As for SNW, I watch it, but not sold on it yet. I watched TNG episode "The Bonding" today. Nothing after ENT (S3 and S4) has approached the level of writing of that episode. Except maybe that one S2 episode of SNW. You know exactly what episode I'm talking about. It's the only episode.
The musical one!
Haha I refuse to watch that one. Cannot believe they wrote a musical for Star Trek. Ridiculous.
The Simpsons is now on season 35.
Agreed about Flanagan. I feel like now’s the time to have more one season stories for easier digestion. Especially since so many of them turn to shit so quickly. Ted Lasso being a recent example. Holy shit that last season was horrendous.
It's the same thing in video games and books, people chasing money or lack skill go after the most popular genres even if they themselves don't really have any interest in it and produce mediocre products that have 0 passion in them.
I should really watch more stuff from Flanagan, I though midnight mass was alright even if it dragged it's feet in the middle.
The Bear is very very good
I still haven’t recovered from a certain Season 2 episode
The fishes, right?
That somehow made me love Jamie Lee Curtis even more...
She deserves every award for that episode.
I had to stop watching at some point, it was just too close to home. The overall feeling was just like christmas at home and I don't go anymore, because I value my sanity more these days. Holy shit what an episode.
Also Mr. Robot and Foundation and Good Omens and Fleabag and the new Beavis and Butthead and Station Eleven and Doctor Who is about to get good again and Irma Vep was great but I don't think that one's coming back
wait there's a new one? I've been living under a rock!
There are two new seasons and a movie!
I forgot about this, I need to go watch!
That reminds me, I went out on Halloween dressed as Butthead when I was but a wee lad hhhuhuh.
It's okay, not great, although I loved this episode.
I wish Station Eleven was longer :(
I wanted to see that world explored a little longer.
Don't forget Goliat and Bosch.
I want to like Mr Robot sooooo badly but I find it very cringy and tryhard. I gave up midway through season two.
Season 2 is definitely the slowest season I think. It's a bit of a slog but it's doing a lot of the legwork for seasons 3 and 4 to go wild so it does kind of pay off in the long run IMO.
Yes, season 3/4 totally worth it. When finish the series you going to want to watch it again,and love it even more.
I feel this way about video games.
Same, Baulder's Gate 3 is out. It's fantastic and I don't have much motivation to spend money on it. TOTK takes up all the time I allow myself to play video games. I still haven't even started Elden Ring.
... Still haven't seen The Wire 🥲
I hate to be "that guy", but it's definitely worth it, and unlike many shows it's fairly easy to watch.
Yeah it is pretty long, but rewarding.
It's also not a "flashy" show, so you don't get the fatigue of the writer constantly one-upping themselves to shock you. It's just a fun drama with some great characters and actors. Once you've seen it, you'll join the ranks of those who yell "OMG IT"S AVON BARKSDALE" everytime you see Harris on screen, or any number of the other actors.
I honestly believe half of these shows are fake and you can’t change my mind
I've seen half the shows listed and they're all pretty decent. And this is from someone who just cycles one subscription and watches whatever looks interesting on the current subscription.
I’m pissed at how absolutely shit the end of The Watcher is. It started so good.
Fellas, is it a crime to want to share something you enjoy? As long as you aren't demonizing people who haven't seen it, who cares?
It's not about demonizing the person sharing. It's about the feeling of being overwhelmed because there's so much shit you haven't seen and will never see. You will never have enough time to get through that list and that can feel bad.
Yeah that’s about it. I also think it’s about the dawning realisation that this medium or format of storytelling has become increasingly commercialised; and that in spite of the vast hours of content available, there is paradoxically less genuine narrative than ever.
Imo we should limit these to one every 5 years.
I'm just now watching the 20 year old tv show "the wire" and its better than the 5 of these I have watched (of those 5, I'd only recommend the "the bear")
The wire is an all timer! Not sure any of the shows in the picture will ever be at that level.
Oh man, I'm just starting that one myself. West Wing. Sopranos. For some reason, if you can get past the old-person video quality, 20 years ago was peak TV. Gen-X is mostly a waste of oxygen and natural resources, but their art (TV, music) was a Renaissance era.
No! That's not true! We've just kept the best shows from that era! For every "The Wire" there were a dozen other terrible shows airing at the same time. It's true that there were fewer shows on TV so there were less to pick from but believe me, in another 10 years people are going to only point to "Breaking Bad" and other shows (Sherlock? Mr. ROBOT? Dexter? Game of thrones minus the last season? we can't say for sure right now) as amazing and they'll say "damn, 20 years ago was peak TV."
I will say though, it's impressive that HBO is really the only production company to consistently produce the best TV.
I would say I feel attacked, but you're mostly right.
I'd argue about the waste of oxygen thing, but my gen x coworker says she mostly identifies with boomers.
I've watched like two of the ones listed.
Two more than me. I did start watching Westworld but it was too gruesome. It's a shame that programs with good storylines have to ruin it with too much gratuity.
I see where you're coming from. But for Westworld the gratuity is sort of fundamental to the theme and plot of the show.
What's gratuity in this context? English is my second language and an the dictionary nor online searches for things like "gratuity in tv shows" were of much help. I saw most of one episode; do you mean the soft porn?
Haven't watched any of these and I don't feel like curling in fetal position. What's wrong with me, doctor?
Oh, he’s doing that because he feels like he’s missing out? I thought the joke was that he curled into fetal position because the guy is peppering him with questions and is feeling overwhelmed.
I had a boss that’d always try to talk about films, TV, and frequently referenced actors to me, and I’d always feel a bit bad that I never got it.
I imagine you have your own methods to handle these types of discussions, but this is my trick.
"Have you watched random niche show you've never heard of?"
"No, but I've heard it's pretty decent. What's it about?"
At this point, you can check out of the conversation while they talk about a show you'll never see. Personally, I like to half listen because I like to hear about stuff people have a passion for
That's a neat tip. Now, if only I had a social life to put it into practice
I do try to engage in conversations about it when prompted to, but I always feel rather bad when they ask and can somehow instantly tell that I have absolutely no clue.
I like to think he’s overwhelmed by an instant realisation of his own brief mortality in the face of what must be hundreds of cumulative hours of shows that he will most likely never watch
That's profound!
Wow if I have to resort to speed up something then I'm watching it because I have to, not because I want to. May I ask, which ones? Of those, the only one that I have on my Maybe Someday List is The Last of Us.
Why is that out of interest? Plenty of shows here have been universally acclaimed and I don't think there are many people who wouldn't love at least one of the shows here.
What are some of your favourite shows you have seen? I'd be curious what you enjoy if there's nothing in this list that appeals.
Honestly I haven't heard about the majority in the list, and those I did just didn't grab my attention. I'm not saying they are bad shows. I can't speak of what I haven't watched.
It's difficult to get me to follow up on a series. I prefer movies. When I do series, it's likely to be animation. Bojack Horseman comes to mind as something I've watched recently, that isn't ages old, and that I've enjoyed a lot. HAPPY! is another, mostly live action, but I still need to finish S2. All other examples of live action tv shows I've watched a substantial amount of eps are from before streaming became standard, and even then I haven't finished a lot of those.
I think it's because of something in the way shows are marketed + my personal experiences of trying shows and not liking them/getting bored. It irks me when the plot quality of a show goes down as the series progresses. I see a movie trailer and I get a pretty good idea if it's worth my time or not, but that's not the case with long format shows.
If you had to sell me some of the shows in the comic, which ones would be and why?
Sounds totally fair enough mate. I'm not really the person to ask because most of these shows are shows I want to watch but haven't yet. Last of Us is fantastic though and the boys is as enjoyable as any superhero property imo, mainly because it feels like it's pretty much what would actually happen in our world if superheros existed and doesn't pull any punches (literally), where every other show would just give you a sound effect while it cuts to someone's reaction, the boys will give you slow motion and high focus so you can see the details of someone's head being pulled off their body or something equally (often more) horrific.
Ted Lasso sounds more likely to grab you from that list if only because it's 30min episodes and relies on humour more than plot. But this is still based on others opinions, it's just a show I still want to watch at the moment so I could hate it yet. I tend to find that most things which are universally acclaimed are well worth watching though.
I appreciate the answer! I'll keep these in mind. Cheers
No worries. Another show that sprang to mind which isn't in this list is the legend of vox machina.
It's an amazon prime series based on critical role and follows the first campaign relatively faithfully (so far). It came to mind because it's an animation and the setting and plots are well thought out. Characters have been played by the voice actors for literally hundreds of hours before the show was even conceived so whilst there are clichés aplenty, the characters are fully formed and fleshed out from the start. I'm biased because I was addicted to CR since the early days but the show really stands up on its own in my opinion.
It sounds corny as fuck but it's one that was 100% made with love and if you like adult cartoons I really recommend it.
Then there's me, on my 4th rewatch of Mash this year.
Between shows and my steam backlog who has time for it all? Then there is all that other stuff like work, making dinner, getting outdoors, family...
I swear, too much to do, too little time.
If I had to watch every movie/show that was/is popular... I wouldn't have time for things I really enjoy, so fuck that.
Wait until you hear about these things called "books"…
Ooh! I was going to say that I haven't watched any of these shows, nor even heard of half of them. But, I've probably got common ground with you if you give me a similar list of books/series.
Have just finished the Mortal Instruments series, which apparently was turned into a TV show called "Shadow Hunters". No idea if it was any good, though.
The Last of Us and The Boys.
Haven't seen anything (or even heard of a lot) of the others. Not that they are bad shows. I just like to waste my time in other activities.
Like video games. Not shows, but still wasting time.
Is it really wasting time if you're having a good time?
Do I really have a good time while watching these?
Well if you aren't having a good time then you shouldn't watch it, you should only do stuff you enjoy
Learning.
Video games feel different. Like I feel like I've accomplished something good for myself after playing a game. Shows just make me restless for the most part.
I've thought about that. Games, especially ones with development like RPGs, provide that sense of accomplishment that life rarely gives or doesn't give clearly. Promotions at work might be years apart, buying a house, etc but I can feel like I got something done on a daily basis in games, plus I get a little chime sound and a popup when I do!
Life would be so much better if I could pick up random crap on the ground and sell it to any merchant.
I think the (mostly) simplified morality is appealing too. Like in an RPG I know exactly what the right thing to do is, it's the one that's clearly marked at the "good" dialogue choice.
Whereas in real life it's like... am I doing the right thing? Should I be an engineer and donate to good causes, or should I be actively contributing to good causes and choose to earn less money? Should I become an eco-terrorist?? Lol stuff like that
People are so different, I feel exactly the opposite. There's a bunch of games I'd want to play, but most of the time when I'm about to start playing, I'm just overcome with the feeling of "What's the point? It's just a waste of time". When I'm watching a show I'm processing a shit-ton of stuff, emotions, life, depression. Games are just "for fun". I just don't seem to get the same out of games no matter how "deep" or whatever they are. I accomplish something in a game, 99% of the time I just feel "Well, I could've used all that time and energy doing something real and now I just wasted all that time for some virtual character in a virtual world.".
Wow yeah we really are total opposites!
Objectively I know I'm not accomplishing anything real when I play a game, but they still capture my "whole brain" like what you describe when watching a show.
I wonder where the difference comes from. Maybe I'm just more fidgety, so having something tactile to work on while watching the screen does it for me. :P
The Bear is a great show, would definitely recommend.
I heard it's good but stressful.
That is an accurate assessment. It's great and I can't wait for the next season. But it also gave me anxiety while I watched it.
I feel this
Have you spoken with the ship’s counsellor captain?
We have a standing appointment
I fail to understand why the appointment cannot be carried out sitting down captain this seems illogical and highly irregular. Is the ship short of suitable seating equipment?
Who added wednesday?
I liked it, so?
Imagine being downvoted for sharing an opinion on a tv show.
I liked the beginning, the later episode lost ny interest.
Based on the mostly fantastic choices presented here, I am now using those mentioned that I haven’t seen as a guide to future choices.
I honestly feel like there’s entirely too many actually good shows out there for any one person to watch.
Don’t even get started with anime, I feel like there’s sooo many good shows but each one has over 600 episodes and I won’t ever get time to watch it all
I’m not even mad because the maths is making more sense than my computational maths module in my masters
Are you... Me?
"Hello there!"
“General kenobi !”
more than half of those shows mentioned are unwatchable garbage.
Let me guess...Everybody will agree with this statement, but also everybody will have a different opinion on which shows are the garbage.
Euphoria is garbage most people will agree with that. The ones that you should watch is succession and the boys, last of us is pretty mid and having watched severance I don't know why people are so excited about it.
succession is overrated. If you want to watch five people being absolute garbage: 20 minutes of "It's always Sunny" will get you to that full feeling of "why am I watching this" and save like an entire season of succession.
TLOU WAS MID
The world is very interesting the main characters the escort quest is not. All the villains are basically a throwaway that last 2 episodes if they are lucky. Also the girl/boy with special stuff that needs to be taken to dangerous X place is such a tired trope.
After seeing "The Watcher" in the corner, which is an obvious play on "The Witcher", I am assuming the other half is made up names so that the comic resonates with people who watch shows as well.
If The White Lotus isn't a TLA spinoff I'm gonna invade the Rhineland.
Edit: looking for volunteers
I am out of touch and I don't recognize 85% of the names, and I am suspecting that those are made up so that the comic resonates with informed people as well. And the artist seems to have little imagination ("The Watcher" is obviously a play on "The Witcher").
It could be the Netflix show.
NO THERE IS NOTHING IN EXISTENCE OUTSIDE OF MY BUBBLE SO EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG AND HAS POOR IMAGINATION AND OPINIONS
I mean, Wednesday and The Bear we're both great shows TBH. Russian Doll was funny and dark as well.
I haven't even heard of half of these shows, let alone watched them. Who even has time to watch all of these?
What about Righteous Gemstones? I'm like 4 or 5 episodes in but it hasn't grabbed my attention yet. Worth watching?
Each season was better than the last and it wrapped up really nicely but liking his stuff in general is required. Nothing was better than Vice Principals, imo.
I watched the crap out of Eastbound and Down but haven't gotten to Vice Principals yet.
I wasn't a Danny McBride fan until I watched gemstones. After I finished it, I immediately binged Vice Principals. That being said, if you don't like this type of "mean(?)" comedy, chances are you won't change your mind.
It's an acquired taste like shitty wine or raw cinnamon.
It got better the further I got into it. It caused unplanned binging more than once.
CONSOOM TV
My wife and I have like 3 comfort shows that we just rewatch all year round. And this is kind of how it's like when we meet up with our friends who have watched everything new as it releases.
Stopped watching shows, only torrenting old stuff and the odd cartoon here or there. Picked up comics recently though, lots of stuff coming out but it's oddly different, it feels more like record collecting.
I get it. My wife and I still watch TV shows but it's at a slow place. This idea of watching an entire season in a few days is lost on me. I watch about 2 to 4 hours a week so seasons usually take a while.
I usually set time to watch one or two episodes of a series rotated daily. Made it feel like the olden days with the added bonus of not getting burned out binging all the series.
Why bother trying to keep up to date with all these things just because of FOMO?
If you like Serpadesigns, give homemade ecosystems a looksie. Similar content but more silly
Amazing I’ll check it out!
The only one of these I recognize is Westworld. I cut the cord after the first season and never looked back.
Second is still ok-ish, third sucks and fourth is a bit better... so you stopped at the right point.
You haven't heard of last of us or the boys...?
How do you even exist on the Internet without coming across these?
The only thing I stream are how-tos and educational vids off YouTube or Nebula.
The most classical entertaining thing I follow is probably 12tone.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ no time for fiction I guess.
I get that people exist who have no interest in actually watching, but if you're on social media (lemmy included) it seems impossible to have actually not heard of these.
Clearly I'm wrong though, it just really surprised me.
Great... more shows to download that I probably won't watch because I'm still trying to catch up with older ones at least I just finished The Wire....
Watched the first episode of white lotus while on a flight and really couldn't be interested enough to finish that one. Does it become good later?
I watched it and didn't really like it. It's too slow-paced for me and the characters weren't relatable.
Give it 3+ episodes. I had the same reaction and yes it becomes much better later and the second season is fantastic as well
I started out great imo, so if the first episode didn't click with you, don't bother. There's enough content out there for anyone's tastes.
I'm a big fan of serpadesign, he inspired me into terrariums and last month I made a small fish bowl, which I am planning to move to a proper fish tank that I will DIY from IKEA glass shelves as in one of his videos.
I've only seen exactly one of these.
Same. For me it was Wednesday
No desire to see Wednesday. I did just notice westworld though, I liked that one and it makes two with Ted lasso. Tried Euphoria and hated it after 10 minutes. Started the last of us but wife hated it and am waiting for a chance when she’s not around.
The boys, am I right?
So I totally missed half of them on the last panel. I was thinking Ted lasso but I did see the boys. That’s what I get for lemmying while taking my half asleep morning poo.
Out of all of those, I only saw Russian doll. Did it ever come back? There was a huge gap after season 2, and it didn't finish the story at all. Never heard of it was continued, I haven't had Netflix since I stopped getting it for free with my phone bill.
Nah, just two seasons. It should have just been the one.
I liked the first season, but the second one? Natasha Lyonne voice: Ehh, not so much.
Six out of nineteen ain't bad.
Shit I've only seen 2, and haven't even finished the boys yet so really just one.
I need like a year off work to catch up on TV and film, then another 3 or 4 years to catch up with gaming.
Fuck adulthood.
Eh, you are just finding out there is more to life than tv and games
Yeah you're not wrong, doesn't mean I don't miss when there was less to life sometimes though.
You misunderstood while you catch up more shows episodes appear and you never catch up. Well the WGA strike.might help a little there, but not for games well...not sure I think there was a plan for games to be affected to now that It hibk about it.
I think with an extra 40 hours free time a week for a year I could catch up with everything I want to see in a year. That's 2000 extra episodes of 1hr TV I could watch. I reckon I could manage it while also watching a couple new shows.
Games are a bit different, usually I play one or 2 time intensive games in a year but I don't expect to play all the big releases even with no job. 3 or 4 years should allow me to catch up with the ones I feel like I've missed and want to play in the last 5 or 10 years though.
I only heard of 3. I am suspecting most of the rest are made up names (The Watcher seems like an obvious play on The Witcher) so that the comic resonates with informed people as well.
I will say, there's eight that I haven't heard of either.
Hacks is very good. Love hacks
And just think if Hollywood continues to let this strike go on, we’re going to have the opposite problem.
I'd be happy with a couple years of no new TV where we can all just catch up with the shows we've missed to be honest.
" Hey, do you know of any shows nobody else in this room has already watched?"
Been boycotting the media for about a decade. It frankly makes it difficult to make small talk when you refuse to know about the latest trends that Big Media sells to the populace
Why not try watching an episode of something and if you like it, keep going, and if not, drop it? No need to worry about Big Media.
Mindhunter
i lose brain cells whenever i watch tv or netflix
You should probably avoid both then. Sounds like you don't have many to start with
I haven't seen a single one of any of those shows.
Same. Only heard of 3, and I am assuming half are made up so that the comic resonates with people who do watch shows.
And they're all MID
Every single one?
I don't like tv shows in general 🤷♀️ white lotus was good though
How explicitly graphic is yellow jackets?
If you check IMDB site, show details, and scroll down, they have ratings and scenes description. They also have some under spoiler tags.
I always click on serpadesign!
As someone who very rarely watches series, this really hits home. I just rarely have the patience to do so, and because of that I also don't have any streaming subscriptions. I'd rather play games, because the interaction makes them a lot more rewarding to me. To each their own though, other people don't play games so they'll have the same problem with me
I only watch shows when they are done airing the last season / episode. Few exceptions.. like mindless comedy shows that have no ongoing story arch through the seasons.. like the simpsons.
Once all of One Piece has been released I'll just binge it all at once
Russian Doll is the only one worth watching. And only the first season.
Why not 2nd? I watched first back then and now I saw this post and recalled. I loved the first one and was considering to watch the 2nd. Never thought there would be a 2nd season to this.
The story was finished at the end of the 1st season. The 2nd is a completely different premise and idk, I just don't think it was as enjoyable or as well thought-out
I only watched maybe two episodes of the second season. It switched to a Quantum Leap type situation where she jumped through time into another person.
Might as well give it a shot, but just be aware it's a different premise and hasn't been received as well.
I get what you're saying here, but in all seriousness there's no good reason to have not watched Yellowjackets by now. You can do better. It's easily the best show of the last 10 years.
Honestly never heard of it.
I definitely wouldn't say it's the best show of the last 10 years TBH. The first season is fun, and the second one kind of trails off a bit IMO.
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It had potential to be great, but falls far from that. Some cringe-inducing writing and acting there. It was fun and entertaining enough to watch. Hope the next season is better.