As a teacher once made my class chant as we marched around the school, "singular verbs end in s". Count BinFace is the subject and wins is the verb of the clause "Count BinFace wins..."
In an interview with Jeremy Vine, The Count was challenged on the general requirement for people to not wear hats in the chamber. His retort was that it's also generally required to declare donations.
I saw that. It was amazing. He said something along the lines of if Nigel can get away with not declaring donation then he can probably bend the rules to allow a costume in parliament.
Another take away line, after being asked if the count was worried about the monster raving looney party running in Clacton, there were words to the effect: "If anything, the monster raving looney party will split the Reform vote"
In Furness to him Farrage will have to interrupt his visit to America and GBNews show to go door to door so I could see it being a quiet summer for the voters
Unfortunately, this is a national poll. AFAIK, there is currently no specific poll with only Clacton voters, and some projections expect Farage to win with an even higher margin than last time.
Fun fact about the national poll: Count binface didn't just beat Farage, he also beat "neither" as a response option. So the overall public doesn't just want Farage to lose but to be humiliated by losing to a walking trash can.
I'm sure every letterbox in the area has now been stuffed with propaganda that Count Binface is a lefty woke terrorist who personally beat Ann Widdecombe to death with a dildo.
The UK is split up into 650 areas. During a GENERAL election everybody eligible, and that can be bothered, in a constituency votes for a single candidate, the one with the most votes wins and becomes the MP for that area. 650 MP’s get elected this way.
Nige has resigned as an MP for, uh, reasons so we are having a by-election for just a specific one 650th of the UK.
They're not, only registered voters in Clacton will be voting in the actual by-election. Someone just conducted a national poll to see what the consensus was over the entirety of the UK, and the results of that poll aren't exactly surprising
The actual vote is local only, for the people who live in Clacton.
However, though only a local election, because Farage is also the leader of a political party, the result will also be used politically, to say whether people generally support or reject him and his views, and those of his party.
Because he's a... let's say "controversial figure", then there's some degree of national hope that he'll be defeated and ideally, embarrassed.
Interesting. Jeremy Corbyn has an "anti-vaccine activist, conspiracy theorist" brother who is running in Clacton and apparently was a councillor for Labour in Southwark some decades ago.
Farage won Clapton with 45% of the vote with multiple candidates. That same showing this time would lose him the vote. Which would be hilarious because not only would it unseat Farage, it would also be the fifth by-election they failed to win.
"joke candidate" usually implies someone who enters with no chance of winning just to make a joke. The implication doesn't match in this case because he has a nonzero chance of winning.
But this isn't a normal by-election this is a by-election caused by someone who is under investigation for parliamentary misconduct and also is simultaneously under police investigation for criminal conspiracy to handle stolen money.
Don't they? Do you think they didn't know exactly who they were voting for last time? And if the only other option is a guy who plays a space alien with a bin on their head do you think they'll actually show up?
The option isnt necessarily one or the other, its "do I even bother to show up at all?"
If you have two joke candidates, why bother voting for either? Meanwhile the people who have voted for Farage in the past will likely continue to do so.
This is a candidate with a fucking bin on their head, are you seriously questioning whether they're a joke candidate?
Look, I get that we all really want Binface to win but that does not mean he is not a joke. That's the whole bloody point.
And, in context, because he is a joke candidate wearing a bin, there will be lots of people who won't bother voting for him. (While many of Farage's faithful will turn out) Sorry to break to you what every sane person with an opinion is predicting...
You don't even think that Farage is a joke candidate in the same way that Binface is. Sure, Binface can crack a joke that Farage is a "joke candidate" and it makes sense but it is not the same sense.
You think Farage is a joke because he's deserving of ridicule. But Binface is a joke because he purposefully invites ridicule. Binface is in on the joke because he's the one telling it. Farage is a joke because the idea that someone so disgusting could be near to power is a (sick) joke that we, those opposed to him, tell to make ourselves feel better about the sorry state of our country. Farage doesn't believe he's a joke at all.
I got jumped on on reddit for suggesting the same thing. It feels like an active attempt to muddy the waters and dissuade honest discussion/criticism but I can't work out exactly why.
No because it's percentage of the vote not quantity of votes.
All sorts of things could happen, perhaps the poor turn out in the last by-election was because people assumed he was a shoe in so didn't bother to vote. Perhaps people forgot (it seems like the sort of place where voter apathy is quite high). Perhaps people will be more likely to vote in this election because it seems funny. Perhaps he has really pissed off a lot of his voters due to his complete absenteeism from the position.
All of these possibilities don't change the fact that your assumption about the "same showing" is unrealistic. You can't have the same showing because the candidates previously standing are not, so where do you allocate their votes? Do you think none of the 116 people who voted UKIP (yes, they still existed in 2024!) might vote Farage over Binface? What about a few of the 12,820 people who voted Conservative? Any of them might align better with Farage policies than "nationalise Adele"?
If you literally have the same showing you'll have 21,225 votes for Farage, zero votes for any other candidate, and Farage will win with 100% of the vote.
There are a few far-fetched ways in which Binface could win. It's possible - I don't dispute that - but unlikely. My point, though, was about your argument based on the "same showing".
Ah I see, so you've divided the world into your enemies and your allies and you think that people who you previously saw as your enemy will still be your enemy. The thing to remember is they don't know you exist, nor do they care about what you're thinking.
In the last election they might have voted for the conservatives because they wanted the conservatives to be in charge. A vote for the conservatives is also a vote against Farage, so perhaps their primary motivation is they don't want Reform and will vote for whatever least worst option is presented in order to not get Reform. In the last election that was a Conservative candidate, in this election that's not an option, so it's binface or Farage, and if they're voting against him then literally anything will be better.
You've also completely disregarded my point that his antics over the last 2 years may very well have pissed quite a lot of his original voters off.
perhaps their primary motivation is they don’t want Reform and will vote for whatever least worst option is presented in order
his antics over the last 2 years may very well have pissed quite a lot of his original voters off.
Let me remind you of the words you are trying to defend:
That same showing this time would lose him the vote
What "same showing" are you talking about? I think by this point it's clear you meant something other than what you said. Since my issue was with what you said, not whatever you meant to say, it's better we leave it here.
So other parties rejected not to enter the election (which is ridiculous- it feels like they’re basically told by tech oligarchs not to) but if binface also didn’t challenged him, what would have happened? Wouldn’t he just ended up resigning? Also how can you be a nominee after resigning?
AFAIK this election was triggered by Farage because he’s being investigated for some issues with donations and the outcome would be a sanction and trigger the same election, this way he can present himself like the people chose him and it wouldn’t have the sanction against him in the public opinion.
The thing is that if he is elected now, it doesn’t mean that the investigation is stopped, it would continue and find as he did things wrong and trigger the election.
Not presenting candidates against him from the major parties don’t give legitimacy to his shenanigans and don’t waste time and resources on a process that will be done again a few months down the road.
he will be winning the post uncontested, exposing the theatre play he setting up. Though i'm not sure if his supporter understand that.
resigning mean only quit the current post he's holding, basically vacating the seat and trigger a by-election, because a seat cannot be left vacated if the next election is still far away. he's still eligible as a candidate. It's very different than quitting a job
That is absolutely provably false, the reason no party put forward a candidate in this by-election was to not legitimise Farage's publicity stunt.
Farage openly claimed this was going to be a "him vs the establishment" election, so "the establishment" as he calls it refusing to contest him has successfully made him look like a fool and has him crashing out hard in interviews
I don't mean his binface mask, I mean the mask of politicians being anything more then entertainers with no real desire to govern for the people who elected them.
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Unfortunately, in Clacton...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Clacton_by-election
That was a decade ago; quite a lot of those voters have passed away.
Make your vote Count.
Too bad! What most people want isn't important, just whatever this inbred town of boomer yokels thinks!
What in the hell is that title?
prefer is a transitive verb, wins is intransitive.
They've changed "[they] ...(would).... prefer [he] wins [it] than Nigel (does)" to "[they] prefer [he] wins [it] than Nigel" which is still correct.
Is the "wins" that throws me. Shouldn't that be "win"?
As a teacher once made my class chant as we marched around the school, "singular verbs end in s". Count BinFace is the subject and wins is the verb of the clause "Count BinFace wins..."
Yeah I'd go with "win in" personally.
Count Binface wins. The election. They prefer he wins. The election.
They could have just used "winning" and it would have been fine
We try to avoid ing.
Can we get those AI titles? At least they'd be readable over this abomination.
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In an interview with Jeremy Vine, The Count was challenged on the general requirement for people to not wear hats in the chamber. His retort was that it's also generally required to declare donations.
I saw that. It was amazing. He said something along the lines of if Nigel can get away with not declaring donation then he can probably bend the rules to allow a costume in parliament.
Another take away line, after being asked if the count was worried about the monster raving looney party running in Clacton, there were words to the effect: "If anything, the monster raving looney party will split the Reform vote"
I enjoyed his interview with Andrew Marr.
Marr: "Are you actually going to fight a serious door-by-door, street-by-street campaign?"
Count Binface: "....No."
In Furness to him Farrage will have to interrupt his visit to America and GBNews show to go door to door so I could see it being a quiet summer for the voters
His promise to build one affordable house would out perform the entire government.
His trillion dollars a week to NHS was a dig at Brexiters who promised £200M a year to NHS, which never happened.
350 million a week. That was the lie they sold.
Unfortunately, this is a national poll. AFAIK, there is currently no specific poll with only Clacton voters, and some projections expect Farage to win with an even higher margin than last time.
Fun fact about the national poll: Count binface didn't just beat Farage, he also beat "neither" as a response option. So the overall public doesn't just want Farage to lose but to be humiliated by losing to a walking trash can.
I'm sure every letterbox in the area has now been stuffed with propaganda that Count Binface is a lefty woke terrorist who personally beat Ann Widdecombe to death with a dildo.
So there is now a chance?
Could you explain to a USian how a local representative is elected by the whole state?
Are people in northern Ireland and Scotland also voting on this?
The UK is split up into 650 areas. During a GENERAL election everybody eligible, and that can be bothered, in a constituency votes for a single candidate, the one with the most votes wins and becomes the MP for that area. 650 MP’s get elected this way.
Nige has resigned as an MP for, uh, reasons so we are having a by-election for just a specific one 650th of the UK.
They're not, only registered voters in Clacton will be voting in the actual by-election. Someone just conducted a national poll to see what the consensus was over the entirety of the UK, and the results of that poll aren't exactly surprising
The poll was just a quiz, for information or fun.
The actual vote is local only, for the people who live in Clacton.
However, though only a local election, because Farage is also the leader of a political party, the result will also be used politically, to say whether people generally support or reject him and his views, and those of his party.
Because he's a... let's say "controversial figure", then there's some degree of national hope that he'll be defeated and ideally, embarrassed.
This is like if USA Today did a nationwide poll about Mamdani
I get that now. When I read:
I took that to mean the upcoming election was national.
In the US at least we sometimes use poll to refer to election, e.g., "Pokemon GO to the Polls", "Immoral Poll Tax", etc. It is unfortunate.
Why do people vote Farage over Bin face? Can't they see how satirists make far better leaders than any politician or business leader?
See Zelensky
Interesting. Jeremy Corbyn has an "anti-vaccine activist, conspiracy theorist" brother who is running in Clacton and apparently was a councillor for Labour in Southwark some decades ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piers_Corbyn
But Clacton has a very high concentration of fuckwits, so Farage is fine. He will build a new parking structure, the Farage Garage.
The British monarchy needs to be abolished and then recreated around Count Binface.
How much of that public actually lives in Clacton?
Farage won Clapton with 45% of the vote with multiple candidates. That same showing this time would lose him the vote. Which would be hilarious because not only would it unseat Farage, it would also be the fifth by-election they failed to win.
You're assuming that the "same showing" would see every person who voted for someone other than Farage vote for a joke candidate.
The premise of the "same showing" is already clearly implausible, without adding that on top
in our causality, is binface really a joke candidate?
Is this a joke comment? Of course he's a joke candidate.
EDIT: instead of downvoting, explain how the literal comedian in a literal costume with a literal bin on his head is not a joke candidate.
Because he is a lot more sane than the other candidate.
Being sane relative to someone else is completely unrelated to being a joke candidate. Next?
"joke candidate" usually implies someone who enters with no chance of winning just to make a joke. The implication doesn't match in this case because he has a nonzero chance of winning.
But this isn't a normal by-election this is a by-election caused by someone who is under investigation for parliamentary misconduct and also is simultaneously under police investigation for criminal conspiracy to handle stolen money.
The normal rules don't apply.
Don't they? Do you think they didn't know exactly who they were voting for last time? And if the only other option is a guy who plays a space alien with a bin on their head do you think they'll actually show up?
The option isnt necessarily one or the other, its "do I even bother to show up at all?"
If you have two joke candidates, why bother voting for either? Meanwhile the people who have voted for Farage in the past will likely continue to do so.
This is a candidate with a fucking bin on their head, are you seriously questioning whether they're a joke candidate?
Look, I get that we all really want Binface to win but that does not mean he is not a joke. That's the whole bloody point.
And, in context, because he is a joke candidate wearing a bin, there will be lots of people who won't bother voting for him. (While many of Farage's faithful will turn out) Sorry to break to you what every sane person with an opinion is predicting...
And Nigel Farage is not a joke candidate? He took a £5M bribe in crypto, now seeks re election?
Ich bin ein binliner.
Did I say that? Try to stay on topic.
You don't even think that Farage is a joke candidate in the same way that Binface is. Sure, Binface can crack a joke that Farage is a "joke candidate" and it makes sense but it is not the same sense.
You think Farage is a joke because he's deserving of ridicule. But Binface is a joke because he purposefully invites ridicule. Binface is in on the joke because he's the one telling it. Farage is a joke because the idea that someone so disgusting could be near to power is a (sick) joke that we, those opposed to him, tell to make ourselves feel better about the sorry state of our country. Farage doesn't believe he's a joke at all.
You don't get it. Farage manipulation of the electoral process, and the behavior of the other parties is the joke here.
Farage is just another Trump, staying in power to avoid prison.
I got jumped on on reddit for suggesting the same thing. It feels like an active attempt to muddy the waters and dissuade honest discussion/criticism but I can't work out exactly why.
But he's the establishment candidate! Just ask Farage!
My grand voted for a bin, my parents voted for bins....
No because it's percentage of the vote not quantity of votes.
All sorts of things could happen, perhaps the poor turn out in the last by-election was because people assumed he was a shoe in so didn't bother to vote. Perhaps people forgot (it seems like the sort of place where voter apathy is quite high). Perhaps people will be more likely to vote in this election because it seems funny. Perhaps he has really pissed off a lot of his voters due to his complete absenteeism from the position.
All of these possibilities don't change the fact that your assumption about the "same showing" is unrealistic. You can't have the same showing because the candidates previously standing are not, so where do you allocate their votes? Do you think none of the 116 people who voted UKIP (yes, they still existed in 2024!) might vote Farage over Binface? What about a few of the 12,820 people who voted Conservative? Any of them might align better with Farage policies than "nationalise Adele"?
If you literally have the same showing you'll have 21,225 votes for Farage, zero votes for any other candidate, and Farage will win with 100% of the vote.
There are a few far-fetched ways in which Binface could win. It's possible - I don't dispute that - but unlikely. My point, though, was about your argument based on the "same showing".
Ah I see, so you've divided the world into your enemies and your allies and you think that people who you previously saw as your enemy will still be your enemy. The thing to remember is they don't know you exist, nor do they care about what you're thinking.
In the last election they might have voted for the conservatives because they wanted the conservatives to be in charge. A vote for the conservatives is also a vote against Farage, so perhaps their primary motivation is they don't want Reform and will vote for whatever least worst option is presented in order to not get Reform. In the last election that was a Conservative candidate, in this election that's not an option, so it's binface or Farage, and if they're voting against him then literally anything will be better.
You've also completely disregarded my point that his antics over the last 2 years may very well have pissed quite a lot of his original voters off.
Let me remind you of the words you are trying to defend:
What "same showing" are you talking about? I think by this point it's clear you meant something other than what you said. Since my issue was with what you said, not whatever you meant to say, it's better we leave it here.
The last election Clayton had a 58% turnout. So there might be some potential Binface supporters who didn’t vote last time.
I don’t think Clacton is likely to flip, but there is an outside chance.
Now we just need to see if he can win Beck and Page. Maybe we can finally have a Yardbirds reunion.
Really hope he win, it will be better than Farage in every possible way.
His costed budget is to fund NHS at a trillion dollars a week and to build one affordable house.
I'm already voting for him, you don't have to sell it to me any more
I will vote for him if I can have the affordable house on weekends.
"I'm the sane one" Binface sings
The Bin Can Win!
And thats even after we saw the Waldo episode of Black Mirror
I thought that episode was stupid when it first aired.
I watched it again sometime after 2016, and I no longer felt that way.
So other parties rejected not to enter the election (which is ridiculous- it feels like they’re basically told by tech oligarchs not to) but if binface also didn’t challenged him, what would have happened? Wouldn’t he just ended up resigning? Also how can you be a nominee after resigning?
AFAIK this election was triggered by Farage because he’s being investigated for some issues with donations and the outcome would be a sanction and trigger the same election, this way he can present himself like the people chose him and it wouldn’t have the sanction against him in the public opinion.
The thing is that if he is elected now, it doesn’t mean that the investigation is stopped, it would continue and find as he did things wrong and trigger the election.
Not presenting candidates against him from the major parties don’t give legitimacy to his shenanigans and don’t waste time and resources on a process that will be done again a few months down the road.
he will be winning the post uncontested, exposing the theatre play he setting up. Though i'm not sure if his supporter understand that.
resigning mean only quit the current post he's holding, basically vacating the seat and trigger a by-election, because a seat cannot be left vacated if the next election is still far away. he's still eligible as a candidate. It's very different than quitting a job
These is a tradition that parties don't stand a candidate in other parties leaders' electorates.
It's 100% bullshit.
That is absolutely provably false, the reason no party put forward a candidate in this by-election was to not legitimise Farage's publicity stunt.
Farage openly claimed this was going to be a "him vs the establishment" election, so "the establishment" as he calls it refusing to contest him has successfully made him look like a fool and has him crashing out hard in interviews
Yes! Let's go! Pull the mask full off and things will finally change, be our hero Binface.
No no -- the mask stays on. I won't be happy until I see him sitting in Parliament in full costume.
binface will be only one in parliament not wearing a mask
Woah ... deep, man.
He actually said in the interview that he's willing to challenge the rule barring head coverings in session LOL 😆 🗑️
I don't mean his binface mask, I mean the mask of politicians being anything more then entertainers with no real desire to govern for the people who elected them.
Sadly, that is illegal in Parliament.
Okay, well, he'd better at least be wearing the rest of the costume, with the helmet next to him.
Yeah but what is Binface's position on Israel's right to exist?
Better than Farage's lol
Define "exist."