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lemmy.world

I seriously wonder if this guy actually believes what he's saying or if he's just saying it to fool the most gullible and naive investors.

I don't know which of the two possibilities is worse...

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wjriireply
lemmy.world

It doesn't get a lot of play, because it's kind of obtuse, but he has extremely strong beliefs; they're just ones that don't preclude him saying this stuff to fool investors. There were a few pieces that have been written about it, and they flared up again after his weird antichrist lectures last year.

The article hints at it it, but basically, he subscribes/contributes to an extreme variant of an obscure religion-adjacent philosophy that posits that the social stability benefits of an authoritarian Christian monoculture, preferably over the whole world due to some quirks of Christian theology, but certainly at least in the parts of the world where Christianity is a majority religion, are so amazing that they're worth pretending that it's all actually factually true, and that a surveillance state to preserve harmony (and, surprise side effect, it also locks in the power of the elites who establish it all!) is completely acceptable. Theoretically the Christianity part is optional, but there is a lot of risk inherent in not relying on the historical social glue.

To him, seeking this is for the good of humankind. Anything that opposes any of it with any sort of sway, and especially from a Christian context, can be fairly called an antichrist. It's some serious Leto II God Emperor of Dune shit.

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piefed.ca

Idk about that, he's in a group that includes this Yarvin douchebag that is a thought leader amongst them.

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wjriireply
lemmy.world

Mostly, I think he’s just so egotistical and so far up his own ass that he has completely conflated his own self-interest, instincts, hobbies, and ego with literally saving the world. Legitimately held beliefs are not necessarily legitimate beliefs.

I do have to admit I enjoy his big-ackshully energy that reveals itself when people call him out on the Palantir name.

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He's gay, talking about the antichrist and trying to discredit the pope.

I think it's propaganda.

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Guy is just unhinged. He did a lecture series about the antichrist.

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The thing about lies is, if you tell them enough, you begin to genuinely believe them yourself.

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"I don't know which of the two possibilities is worse..."

The theme of the 21st century.

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lemmy.zip

This guy's really not great at veiling his dream of being world boss man.

He's so fuckin' stupid that the fact that he's insanely rich is really the problem.

This guy could have a stroke tomorrow and talk only about my little pony and he'd still have influence.

Musk could have a lobotomy and switch to painting public urinals with his own shit and he would still have influence.

Both of these south African Nazi fuckbois are the best example of what's wrong with the world.

Oh and Alex Karp can suck a giant dick and get fucked too.

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You say that, but Thiel just got his guy elected, and had his tool (musk) export all government agency data to his data banks.

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Oh nah, he doesn't wanna be the world's boss - that's work, and exposes him to way too much criticism and publicity. He'd much rather be the Wormtongue or Saruman than be Sauron. He wants the benefits of access to power, not necessarily the power itself (and the vulnerability that comes with it).

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lemmy.ml

It makes sense for a posthuman moron like Thiel to look more and more like a caricature of Frankenstein's monster with every picture. We need to update our classic to the "clankerstein; the dumbass Prometheus."

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Prometheus

... but instead of stealing the secret of fire from the gods to gift to humanity, he stole their garbage to sell to idiots.

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It is the ol good cop bad cop = controversy. Farm outrage self fulfilling prophecy. Loops, dupes and poops. Hey look at me bla bla bla…. I got your nose. Flood the zone they will never know.

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We need to do some MRI scans or something so see if the brain damage is detectable once you pass one billion dollars.

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lemmy.world

Of all the crazy billionaires out there, Peter Thiel certainly is one

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discuss.tchncs.de

I always wonder whether the fall of the Roman Empire also was this stupid and deranged...

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lemmy.world

That sounds like high praise. He normally calls everyone the antichrist

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programming.dev

Wait, does Thiel not realize that the Chinese made Qwen and other models? How dumb does one have to be to miss that?

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discuss.tchncs.de

In this day and age, why do we keep sharing these fucking articles? Stop giving fascists a voice.

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sh.itjust.works

Fascists don’t just go away if you stop mentioning them; if anything, cancer works best undetected. You have to cut them out at the roots, systemically or otherwise, and that requires being conscious of them.

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To show Capitalism keeps its promises: Any idiot can become filthy rich.

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They want to be in the shadows, so they can get away with their exploitation easier. Better to shine a bright light on them. To know them is to hate them, so let's get to know EVERYTHING they're doing.

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Please stop give giving pieces of shit people like this any attention. Please do not spread their bullshit. Negative attention is also attention.

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aussie.zone

No one's laughed in this man's face and asked him if he was high for a long time, huh.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Well, I think his underlings know he's high but they probably know better than to point it out

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I meant more in the "denigrating the bullshit that just came out of your mouth" way

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sh.itjust.works

Everything I don't like is [communism/woke/dei/liberal/etc.] and generally also projection.

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lemmy.world

He looks like he's missing bolts in his neck.

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He's a vampire, he regularly gets the blood plasma of his lovers and son as an IV (probably not at the same time, tho, reporting is vague on that).

Dude is not a good advertisement for aging gracefully despite that though.

Looks like chronic sleep deprivation, possibly linked to stimmies, to me. He's also decided to gear up his training a little, looks like.

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lemmy.world

This is Peter Thiel's monster. Peter Thiel is the brain tumor in its head.

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lemmy.world

Oh my god holy shit first time I see a photo of him and he really looks like Frankenstein's monster

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He looked much younger not too long ago. The young people's blood he keeps sucking seem to not be working too well for him.

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lemmy.world

“I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.”

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I rarely find myself aligned with the churches backwards ways but...

I feel like a good burning at the stake might do us all a bit of good here.

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Would you like to know more about this monster?

Behind the Bastards did a four-parter (the Gravedigger of Democracy series, on YouTube)
Part One
Part Two
Part Three
Part Four

BTB did another two-parter series Peter Thiel and the Antichrist which I haven't listened to yet, but I assume is about Thiel's recent speaking tour talking about how we're now in the end of days.

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Now they're just spewing bullshit. It's really the Kremlin (and maybe others) playbook. Overwhelm everyone with crap and we just don't have the energy to figure out the correct parts. Donald trump is a master of this too.

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Yeah cause this gargoyle who lives off of government subsidies knows that the influence of communism looks like.

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Are the Chinese Communist working for the Antichrist?

Is this guy literally running around just telling absolutely anyone that will listen absolutely whatever they want to hear?

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Never trust a billionaire, but he's a special sort of evil. He just wants his own power.

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This sounds like something Grok would say.

Is this guy maybe just a meat puppet for an LLM? Has it begun?

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discuss.online

I think this is the first time I've ever seen a picture of this guy and God damn is he goofy looking.

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He can find young men to sell him their blood, but he hasn't found one who will sell him his face yet, but he's working on it. If you're a handsome guy, you really don't want to give that up.

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Hoo boy, we're going to be hearing a lot about the Godless Red Communist Chinese for the next few years. It's going to be like going back to 60s, except with shitty music.

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communick.news

Aren't they also chasing AI?
Don't our AI guys say we need beat the Chinese to AGI?

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mander.xyz

They are saying China wants AI all to itself.

Its been just as destructive to peoples brains in China.

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Its been just as destructive to peoples brains in China.

Surprisingly enough, not really. Chinese citizens that use AI, on average, are significantly better educated than Americans. Internal Chinese AI models also aren't sycophantic and are significantly less focused on 'personality' versus actual facts. Don't get me wrong it's still just LLMs so all of what it produces are hallucinations that might correspond with reality, but the training data for most models have been exclusively scientific and non fiction literature, instead of reddit threads.

I mean the Falun Gong types are probably in full psychosis, but they were like that before.

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I'm wondering what the audience reaction to this claim was cause I would've started laughing like a maniac.

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Imagine the commies and crusaders storming the ai data centers. Should be the name of a strain of weed. phhhhuck china haters are now in this dudes camp. The gay dude who hates gay dudes.

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lemmy.world

Well, I don't know the context, but the Chinese are running propaganda on social media to point out that Ai is bad, so they can win. So, by the pope being rightfully against AI, in Peter theil's mind I assume he thinks the pope is working in China's interest.

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If the Chinese want to end their society by “winning” the AI race first, I welcome them too

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