Just for posterity for anyone who doesn't know: the above is a real quote from Sun Tsu in his "The Art of War".

here’s the rub on that. yes that logic normally works. but when this kind if pos “enemy” has all the money in the world, they need to be interrupted. often. and told to follow their nazi leader.

Does it really help in this case? No.

Realistically, what material impact will come from this admission? My money is on nothing at all.

sorry, adopted step-daughter. Errol Musk raised her since she was 4 years old.

He got her pregnant too.

Do you have a source this is how it works in america? Isn't it based on census data where people choose how they identify?

They did specify 'country'. I don't know enough American history, to argue when the country began, and when the genocide wiped out the first peoples.

Yes, and not only that, the very forefathers who signed this declaration enslaved the people it didn’t apply to for a long time after.

This bright vision of America is contrasted by the hypocrisy and failures of its leaders and citizens from then and to this day. But it is also upheld by brave people who dedicate their lives to correcting it, and the everyday citizens who participate in their government to shape that vision.

Musk’s ironic and oblivious endorsement of white colonization could be said to reflect the hypocrisy of the first colonizing immigrants to this land, and the founding fathers. But his words do not reflect their ideals as laid out in the Constitution and the Declaration. I think the first step in eliminating that hypocrisy is holding ourselves to those ideals today.

I think that while racism is an American tradition, it is not an American idea and so must be rejected out of hand. Musk may live here, and operate massive business interests intertwined with our government, and he may technically be a citizen, but he is not an American in my view.

yes, are you implying you'd prefer that americans continue that particular interpretation? or adopt the one this person is advocating for?

Only landed white men at that

You're right. But research after research shows that exposing does not work, and that it actually appeals to those who are already inclined to extreme ideas.

None of these interviewers have the balls to actually press their interviewee on these topics.

Yeah it's hard-core slaver logic

No, it's non-majority-white = good.

The country's been obsessed with whiteness from its inception. There's nothing bad about white people being more exposed to non-whiteness.

Agreed. Race is nothing but your genetic response to your ancestral environments.

"I don't see color" liberal bullshit.

The concept of race is made up, but the results of it are very real and you're a fool for ignoring that.

What does this have to do with racism?

Agreed

I’m cool with that. Anything other than using “Indian”to me that word is hatful.

The vikings were there for a bit as well, but only really went to Greenland and northern Canada before giving the whole thing up as a bad job. The weather up there is no joke, even compared to where they came from.

Only if you're Mormon.

Sorry, I googled it but nothing made sense, what is a wiling?

They were promptly chased away

I'm of the opinion that a lot of people if not most arguably don't really make a choice about who they are. They don't live with intentionality, they don't consider their agency, they just run on autopilot with the baseline personhood they were built with.

There's a good chance that Elon has never made a real choice in his life. He's probably one of the most pathetic people in the world.

Not to say that absolves blame, you're absolutely responsible for your own actions and lack of thinking.

People can be both a victim in their childhood and a perpetrator afterward.

Absolutely. At no point was I excusing Elon's actions. Those are his own.

Who Elon is today is entirely his own doing.

Disagree. He's the product of his own actions on top of his father's. With a better father he might be completely different. His father started him off with a fucked up set of morals.

It's just a coincidence they're both white supremacists then?

His father had very little to do with that.

Are you his fucking therapist? What an absurd claim to make with such certainty.

He was already very racist in private beforehand, and Vivian has talked about how he routinely tried to make her man up as a kid. Also all of his children were conceived using sex selective ivf.

He always had a fair bit of his dad in him. Very much the vibes of the dad who swears he'll never hit his kids like his dad did, so he just emotionally abuses them and starts to see his dad's perspective when his kids go no contact.

I think the big turn for him was his daughter being anti rich and the rise of anti rich sentiments in the modern American left. That and the lawsuits for racial discrimination in his workplaces

i actually have no idea and no insides about southafrica. i wish the people all the best and justice

For sure, but the moneyed individuals like to stoke this up certainly know the value of keeping the working class distracted.