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Supreme Court sides with a Texas man who says it’s not a crime for marijuana users to have guns

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday against a broad federal ban on gun ownership by marijuana users, the latest in a line of firearm cases from a court that has expanded gun rights.

The justices decided unanimously in favor of Ali Danial Hemani, a Texas man who argued that a law barring guns from anyone who uses illegal drugs violates the Second Amendment.

Supreme Court sides with a Texas man who says it’s not a crime for marijuana users to have gunshttps://apnews.com/article/supreme-court-guns-drugs-marijuana-texas-a60ce6df9e735c6bc7def285ca396784Open linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmy.dbzer0.com

If, not saying we should, but if we were going to restrict gun rights for substance use it should be for alcohol. A drunk person with a gun is orders of magnitude more dangerous then a high person.

Personally I'd probably be safer with a gun if I were stoned because I'd just stay the fuck away from it because it would make me anxious.

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fedia.io

It's already illegal pretty much anywhere in the US to carry/use a firearm while drunk.

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Sure, but that's irrelevant to the discussion here. The question isn't whether it's legal to use a gun while under the influence of either substance. The question is whether being a user of either substance should disqualify you from owning a firearm.

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lemmy.world

Any idiot can have a gun. Any drunk can have a gun. Any thug can have a gun. Why would marijuana users be discriminated against?

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lemmy.world

Because a ton of geriatrics and lawmakers believe in reefer madness. I’m sure there’s a second group but I’m blanking.

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Because these old white racists making the laws are racists and still associate pot and other drugs with people who have darker skin. One of the only other times Republicans were for gun control was when the Black Panthers armed themselves.

That’s why. They’re racists.

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sh.itjust.works

You're going to argue against an armed citizenry with a stright face. With everything that is going on? No thanks.

I'd love to see better mental health for kids, because by the time they even considered using a gun we've already failed them

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mrgoosmoosreply
lemmy.ca

what does that even mean, "with everything that is going on"?

because it doesn't seem to be doing much good

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The rise of fascism. And we're still in the early phases. They'll go after private gun ownership when people start starving.

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That infringes MY right not to have some dumb fucking redneck packing heat around me.

You have no such right and you never did.

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You're exactly the type of person that shouldn't have a gun, I trust that redneck more than your unhinged dumbass.

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lemmy.zip

A hammer can be a tool of death, really anything can be. And please point us to the law that states you have the right to not be around armed citizens.

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Many towns, particularly towns in the Old West, operated like this.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gun-control-old-west-180968013/

Same thing with many cities in early modern Europe. In many places it's been common upon entering a town or settlement that you have to check your weapons in at some location, like a sheriff's office. Check your weapons in when you go into town, get them back when you leave.

The first law passed in Dodge City, Kansas was one prohibiting the carrying of guns inside city limits. So, I suppose that's the law I would point to!

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Jaxreply
sh.itjust.works

Technically speaking a gun is just a very overpowered nail gun.

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lemmy.world

In a world of 3D printers, drones and AI your stuck fighting a cause more lost than the Daughters of the Confederacy.

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Lol I'm not sure how you extracted that I was saying the two are the same. All I was saying that anything can be used as an instrument of death if someone is so motivated, but by all means, continue your crusade.

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blazeknavereply
lemmy.world

I love freedom, I think firing guns is fun, but I don't own them and am blown away by the downvotes you got. Has lemmy just become gun toting libertarians like reddit?

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"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"

-Notable libertarian Karl Marx

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I’m pretty sure it’s mostly his tone of voice and presumptuous attitude. But all that aside, given how many people in this country have said they want to see me and mine dead lately, I will be hanging on to my firearms, thank you very much, and if that makes me a ‘gun-toting readneck’ then so be it.

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RaoulDookreply
lemmy.world

Your rights don't extend over the bodies of others, so you don't have the right to imagine that nobody is armed.

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lemmy.world

But they do have the right to move to another country without dumb fucking gun laws.

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RaoulDookreply
lemmy.world

Do they? As far as I know that is a lot easier said than done. You'd need a passport and a visa to allow entry to the other country, and the whole residence thing is another big hurdle. Not to mention the monetary requirement that expatriating involves.

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lemmy.zip

You do realized that there are only about 20 countries worldwide that firearms are outright banned, right? The rest, unlike the US and select African/ME countries, implement and actually enforce strict ownership and carrying laws. So while you can reasonably expect that people aren't publicly carrying in, say, Europe, they very well can have a healthily stocked safe at home.

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lemmy.world

So, in other words, in most places worldwide, random strangers aren't like strapped. It's almost like your comment was pointless

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Depends on the country and also the region within the country. Most Schengen area countries except Switzerland don't allow it except under very specific circumstances, but elsewhere in the world it can vary wildly.

I get what y'all are trying to get after, guns bad USA is a violent cesspool etc, but if you actually read up on the topic, the US isn't some isolated bastion of guns. Yes we have more gun violence than many countries, but I'd argue its more endemic with our tossed society and culture than with the weapons themselves.

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piefed.social

I'm with you mate. I wish every single person with a gun was fucking dead. There I said it.

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Dead how, though? You gonna just stab everyone one at a time? Should we line up for it? Do we have to leave our guns at home before we get in the stabbing line?

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piefed.social

It's not really surprising. Rights for gun ownership are in the Constitution, there's nothing there about drugs. That's a very straightforward argument, regardless of your stance on either.

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lemmy.world

Well obviously it has to be more complex than that. There's also nothing in there about banning the private ownership of any kind of weapon. Going by your interpretation, any ban on private citizens owning nuclear weapons is unconstitutional. After all, there's nothing in the Constitution about granting an exception to the right to bear arms for weapons past a certain power level.

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Pretty sure the right to bear arms implies you need to be able to lift and weild it on your own.

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Someonelolreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

The gun lobby is ridiculously powerful. Of course they weren't gonna decide the case any other way.

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bstixreply
feddit.dk

The gun is good. The penis is evil.

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They recently reversed their pistol brace ruling which has been very controversial in the 2A community.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

By god, that's Hunter Bidens theme music I hear!

Lowkey with any other last name he's a conservatives icon.

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

Careful, he'll come in here and stridently correct you that it was crack.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Trump, California, and a gun violence advocacy group all supported this and even the SC lined up. This is a winning platform no one has the balls to run on. We can make the laws around both actually make sense and the people seem very receptive to it. If dems want to actually bring right learners into their big tent being less stupid about gun legislation is the eternal number one issue for a lot of people who may share few if any other opinions with the conservatives.

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

Go farther left and keep guns and weeds.

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A rare sight these days

I think almost 50% of decisions were unanimous in their last term.

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lemmy.ca

I mean I feel it is always a guarantee that you drop the "Don't tread on my 2nd Amendment" you be painted as a saint. ESPECIALLY in Texas.

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lemmy.today

This was the supreme court overruling Texas.

They hate rown people smoking more than they live their guns, remember that.

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This was the supreme court overruling Texas.

No, this was SCOTUS overruling the Federal Government. As far as I can tell his charges were Federal and he was never prosecuted by Texas itself.

They hate rown people smoking more than they live their guns, remember that.

You should remember to check the details and use spell check.

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I'm kinda surprised nobody has tried to use trespass laws to force the issue.

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JoeBigelowreply
lemmy.ca

Aren't you the one having a tantrum a few comments up!?

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"yes but I'm the only one who's trustworthy, everyone else is is a crazed gunman"

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