Millions of copyrighted songs were fed to AI music generators - now there's proof. They are being sued for $150k per song.
A sum that would bankrupt these companies and set an important precedent.
Yesterday, there was news of publishers doing the same. Let's see what other industries follow.
https://www.gadgetreview.com/millions-of-copyrighted-songs-were-fed-to-ai-music-generators-now-theres-proofOpen linkView original on lemmy.world368
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Eww.
AI is so fucked that it's got me rooting for the RIAA.
I feel dirty.
This isn't about stopping AI music, it's about controlling it. The big copyright cartels like the RIAA would love to continue controlling it and now people are cheering them on.
Even so, it’s important that big money companies get involved to help set precedents that theft cannot be ok just because it’s done on an incomprehensible large scale. As an author, I can’t afford to sue these monsters, but if we can make the OTHER monsters fight them…well, it’s better than nothing.
Tbh from the outside looking in, it kinda looks like two rich people fighting over the ownership of a trash can.
Whoever wins it deserves it.
Might be the one good thing to ever come from the music industrial complex
You think the RIAA is here to help?
They will sell the rights to a company that will do the same thing the current AI-music companies do, just worse and more expensive.
And since the new company has to train a new model, it's even worse for the environment.
Congratulations.
Such a stupid take. Prepare for them to start suing over piracy again.
Where is my $150k for each comment I have made that was fed into AI model training?
Sorry, best we can do is higher energy costs.
If you can add some millions of gallons of water wasted than we have a deal!
Also going to need you to throw in your job.
Should have made yourself a corporation before commenting. I bet that would have worked.
And we all laughed at the boomers posting on Facebook MY LAWYER ADVISED ME TO POST... IF YOU DON'T POST THIS NOTICE YOU AREN'T PROTECTED... I DO NOT CONSENT TO FACEBOOK USING MY PRIVATE POSTS IN ANY WAY
Sure thing
Just prove you're human first by uploading your ID
£150k for my name, £150k for my address and £150k for my date of birth.
Those comments are owned by the platform you posted it to, probably hidden away in a TOS clause.
You however are liable for any of said comments that are owned by the platform.
Privatize the profits and socialize the liabilities! 'MURICA!
edit: why yes, I understand there are exceptions. You probably still own the copyright, but have given them a transferable royalty free license to reproduce your content for use cases that are legally broad but worded to not appear so to the layman. Sure, it's yours, but they can effectively do whatever they want with it. You've lost control the moment you click the button to publish it.
Course if you think you retain whole control of something posted on facebook, instagram, tiktok, reddit, or a myriad of other sites with billions of accounts.. let me know how your lawsuit went. Maybe you have a kind of exception due to GDPR, california law or similar but those protections only extend to a small portion of humans today unfortunately.
I believe this isnt the case on most threadiverse instances.
This assumes that everything anyone ever wrote... anywhere on the internet... originated after this existed.
Five years ago practically no one used this. Anybody posting online almost certainly did not start here or only ever exclusively posted here.
So obviously, yes, this site doesn't count, probably.
Nope. The copyright is held by the creator. If they did hold copyright they wouldn't get section 230 protection.
And what about websites I have made myself then? They are probably scraping lemmy too, I hope the instance owner is getting $150k for each of my comments!
If it's a complex enough comment, they would the copyright, no matter where they posted it...
These clauses have been successfully challenged a number of times, especially when the entire idea is tucked away intentionally to hide the fact from the user...
Exactly. Fuck them for outright stealing with no repercussions. If that isnt stealing, neither is anything else 😁
Relying on copyrights becoming even more draconian to fight against genai is going to be a massive self own.
The same companies will gladly use their own collection to train these models themselves and beggar the artists. Or more likely take over these companies who "stole" their music and continue business as usual.
Celebrating this overreach is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
Yeah, the only reason I like this is because training AI in this way is being called out & held accountable.
I hope they are using the same penalty formulas they used in the 2000s when they fucked over everyone using Napster.
Oh we fined you $150,000 per song? Yeah best we can do against a corporation is a finger wag
You can't bankrupt these companies, it's where all our imaginary money is invested.
I think you’re wrong. How about we try our damnedest and find out if they can be bankrupted?
I've tried asking normies for help, they pull the o'l "if you're the only crazy one" analogy and go back to talking about not rebelling against their government or whatever it is they do 80% of the time.
Well, not with that attitude
This is what should happen for all content scraped. It's an illegal foundation of llm.
Universal already bought one of the big AI music generation services. These lawsuits only decide if we can run it on our computer or if it has to be through a subscription service that doesn't allow you to swear.
I hope it stems the flow. I cant tell if new music in my niche are up and coming artists or from a content farm.
I'll wait a little bit, I think over time people will stop caring about it, they'll want to consume and most importantly, for free or for pennies; they don't care about some kind of theft, it's the Industrial Revolution baby, what other copyrights are you kidding?