I know people that will complain about the crappy results but then not use a different search engine. Like it's too much cognitive load to go to duckduckgo or qwant or whatever
To be fair, duck duck go also has some garbage results compared to like 2015 google. I have used ddg for the past several years and many topics yield terrible results. I was "the good googler" amongst my peers at the time. I haven't tried qwant, so it might be better. A lot of search engines are worse and I'm guessing it's partially because the web is just bloated with trash now.
Even today's Google (if you use an adblocker) is still much better results than Duckduckgo from my experience. I use ddg first, but I often have to resort to Google if the results are shit.
A lot of search engines are worse and I’m guessing it’s partially because the web is just bloated with trash now.
That's sadly a big part of it. Other is that search engines in general are worse today as everything apparently needs to be AI. Google spesifically has gotten worse over the years, but it's not alone. And that indirectly affects other engines, like duckduck, which at least partly uses other engines at the background.
But with DDG bangs are pretty neat. If you don't find what you're looking for via DDG search just add '!g' to the query and you'll get same search from Google. Or pick from "a few" other engines with their own bangs.
Hmm, makes me wonder if a big factor is that it reads the first couple of results and summarizes it. Like if it was turned off, people wouldn't bother clicking through and reading, so they just leave and and "fact" get saved in their brains. If they were really motivated, they would click through and read and come to the same incorrect conclusions but most don't bother so the misinformation doesn't propagate as easily
That used to be a direct result of how good the search was. In the aughts it was generally on page 1 or you had to rephrase your query; the remaining results were the era’s equivalent of ‘slop’, link trees and redirect rabbit holes and plaintext sites with random stolen content. I was met with genuine surprise any time I found what I was looking for on page 3 or 4
And hence why we call it "métrage" in French, as in "un long métrage" (a feature film) and "un court métrage" (a short film) ; because we measure in metres !
There are many different tiers and types of AI users. Anyone who uses Grok might not be eligible for the death penalty in the US due to diminished capacity.
When I was a kid I thought “talkie” was such a ridiculous, funny-sounding word for the advent of films with sound. It was only years later that I realized that the word “movie” which I had never thought twice about was almost the exact same thought process for, you know, pictures that moved.
I never really used A.I at all. I remember the very first wave of midjurney i think, and i found it fascinating, made a few pictyres and was like woah, cool. Never touched it again. Tge other day i wanted to make an STL file but i didn't really feel like learnic CAD, so i thought: A.I is supposed to be supper smart and can create images and code and shit, right? I sat down and told it what i need and it started creating something. It looked nice and all, but missed the mark. I exoplained what was wrong and it made something else. Most of the time it ran in circles and said: oh i get it, and made the same thing again. It made things that weren't connected. Sometimes it made sometging that was close and when i told it what to change it made sometging else entirely that was all kinds of wrong. After a while it wasn't even about tge thing anymore, i juat wanted to figure out why it can't do it. At the end i sat on my couch for like 3 hours and it was nothing. I do not understand how prople claim that A.I is so smart, it was one of the most frustrating thimgs that i have done in a long time. It was like explaining somethimg to someone who clearly doesn't get it, and you just do it yourself at the end.
Merriam-Webster is a source of factual information. Factual information is woke or something. Elon doesn't allow grok to consider anything woke in its answers. Therefore grok doesn't get the info from Merriam-Webster.
ROFL I always wonder if we are totally cooked as a society, if the billionaires are going to get what they want. Sometimes, I think so. However, there are enough people that thing LLMs are total bullshit and won't be lured in. Good on Merriam-Webster to clap back on grok induced stupidity!
It could be argued that they are a willing variant of Reverse Centaur
Start with what a reverse centaur is. In automation theory, a "centaur" is a person who is assisted by a machine. You're a human head being carried around on a tireless robot body. Driving a car makes you a centaur, and so does using autocomplete.
And obviously, a reverse centaur is a machine head on a human body, a person who is serving as a squishy meat appendage for an uncaring machine.
That's not a slur though, it's generally sympathetic.
As long as they use an uncensored AI trained with the least biased data, that would be a billion times better than facebook poster or Instagram, TikTok, Twitter
Merriam Webster is my least trusted dictionary. Meanings and words I've looked up in the past have been either inaccurate or biased to a North American understanding. I use English English, and prefer Cambridge and (secondary due to online paywall) Oxford (UK ver.).
Merriam Webster is my least trusted dictionary. Meanings and words I've looked up in the past have been either inaccurate or biased to a North American understanding.
You don't like Merriam-webster because the american dictionary company caters to American English?
It doesn't always clarify it is American English, and implies to non-English speakers that it is the standard form, when it is a variation. This, along with American English teachers around the world teaching their form, misrepresents English itself.
Sadly I have generally watched in horror as my friends quote Gemini slop as fact checking on the regular, because it's the default search result.
I speak up about it, and explain why it's problematic. Doesn't matter. It's convenient.
Convenience always wins.
We're cooked.
I know people that will complain about the crappy results but then not use a different search engine. Like it's too much cognitive load to go to duckduckgo or qwant or whatever
To be fair, duck duck go also has some garbage results compared to like 2015 google. I have used ddg for the past several years and many topics yield terrible results. I was "the good googler" amongst my peers at the time. I haven't tried qwant, so it might be better. A lot of search engines are worse and I'm guessing it's partially because the web is just bloated with trash now.
I downloaded the Wikipedia app - I usually end up there anyway, just now I just cut to the chase.
Even today's Google (if you use an adblocker) is still much better results than Duckduckgo from my experience. I use ddg first, but I often have to resort to Google if the results are shit.
Check out Start Page.
Uses Google results, but it doesn't track or profile you
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks DDG search is dogshit
I've been using StartPage, and the results are generally much better (though I think they are technically taken from Google, so...)
That's sadly a big part of it. Other is that search engines in general are worse today as everything apparently needs to be AI. Google spesifically has gotten worse over the years, but it's not alone. And that indirectly affects other engines, like duckduck, which at least partly uses other engines at the background.
But with DDG bangs are pretty neat. If you don't find what you're looking for via DDG search just add '!g' to the query and you'll get same search from Google. Or pick from "a few" other engines with their own bangs.
Nah, they're cooked. Only ones going against this stupid machine worship are those who actually touch grass.
Pls convince them otherwise.
Hmm, makes me wonder if a big factor is that it reads the first couple of results and summarizes it. Like if it was turned off, people wouldn't bother clicking through and reading, so they just leave and and "fact" get saved in their brains. If they were really motivated, they would click through and read and come to the same incorrect conclusions but most don't bother so the misinformation doesn't propagate as easily
This was always a thing. The results on page 1 had a much greater click rate than on page 2+
That used to be a direct result of how good the search was. In the aughts it was generally on page 1 or you had to rephrase your query; the remaining results were the era’s equivalent of ‘slop’, link trees and redirect rabbit holes and plaintext sites with random stolen content. I was met with genuine surprise any time I found what I was looking for on page 3 or 4
Yeah, old search was just better
I'm wondering if SEO just got better and search is harder.
Mein Kampf.
And hence why we call it "métrage" in French, as in "un long métrage" (a feature film) and "un court métrage" (a short film) ; because we measure in metres !
@grok is this legit?
I am mecha Hitler
It checks out.
Full movie, largometraje Short film, cortometraje
There are many different tiers and types of AI users. Anyone who uses Grok might not be eligible for the death penalty in the US due to diminished capacity.
They would in a type of society where it's considered evidence of imperfect genes.
When I was a kid I thought “talkie” was such a ridiculous, funny-sounding word for the advent of films with sound. It was only years later that I realized that the word “movie” which I had never thought twice about was almost the exact same thought process for, you know, pictures that moved.
Enter all the cineasts that sighs and says "Films, not movies"
Movie is an Americanism.
*English (simplified) /s
🤯
I thought it got it from Elon Musk. That's why it's stupid as fuck. 🤷♂️
I never really used A.I at all. I remember the very first wave of midjurney i think, and i found it fascinating, made a few pictyres and was like woah, cool. Never touched it again. Tge other day i wanted to make an STL file but i didn't really feel like learnic CAD, so i thought: A.I is supposed to be supper smart and can create images and code and shit, right? I sat down and told it what i need and it started creating something. It looked nice and all, but missed the mark. I exoplained what was wrong and it made something else. Most of the time it ran in circles and said: oh i get it, and made the same thing again. It made things that weren't connected. Sometimes it made sometging that was close and when i told it what to change it made sometging else entirely that was all kinds of wrong. After a while it wasn't even about tge thing anymore, i juat wanted to figure out why it can't do it. At the end i sat on my couch for like 3 hours and it was nothing. I do not understand how prople claim that A.I is so smart, it was one of the most frustrating thimgs that i have done in a long time. It was like explaining somethimg to someone who clearly doesn't get it, and you just do it yourself at the end.
Merriam-Webster is a source of factual information. Factual information is woke or something. Elon doesn't allow grok to consider anything woke in its answers. Therefore grok doesn't get the info from Merriam-Webster.
ROFL I always wonder if we are totally cooked as a society, if the billionaires are going to get what they want. Sometimes, I think so. However, there are enough people that thing LLMs are total bullshit and won't be lured in. Good on Merriam-Webster to clap back on grok induced stupidity!
Is there a term for people who only get answers from Ai?
Like some AI cuck?
I've seen cogsuckers used before.
“Most people” is the term you’re looking for. You could also call them “normies”.
sloperator
Dumbass Cogsuckers
Slopheads
I like it. Reminds me of Red Dwarf
Botbrains.
Ah yes, those people with brAIns
Slop zombie.
I just made that one up
It could be argued that they are a willing variant of Reverse Centaur
That's not a slur though, it's generally sympathetic.
As long as they use an uncensored AI trained with the least biased data, that would be a billion times better than facebook poster or Instagram, TikTok, Twitter
What a terribly low bar to set
True
But FB IG TikTok Twitter aren't exactly good
AI psychosis is a thing.
@grok how do i wipe my ass after poop?
GROK: Go waterskiing naked & sitting down, only do it on a road with a car.
USER: Sounds fun, thx!
We have "Schadenfreude". We're gonna need a word for physical pain caused by witnessing such stupidity.
Fremdschämen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicarious_embarrassment
I was pointed to that by looking up myötähäpeä.
Is death by facepalm a thing?
To be fair, I wouldn't expect grok to be using actual facts and reputable sources as its baseline knowledge, given its owner.
If you're lucky, this is where it gets its info.
So the only explanation here, is that they thought Merriam Webster is a person not an Encyclopedia, right?
@grok explain this I lack braincells
@gork is this real??2?
Either dumb or deliberately summoning fucking Grok just for the lulz.
Grok gets information from the Cambridge dictionary.)
From the OG OED.
i'd always thought it had the same root as "photograph"
Merriam Webster is my least trusted dictionary. Meanings and words I've looked up in the past have been either inaccurate or biased to a North American understanding. I use English English, and prefer Cambridge and (secondary due to online paywall) Oxford (UK ver.).
You don't like Merriam-webster because the american dictionary company caters to American English?
It's a legit reason to not like something
It doesn't always clarify it is American English, and implies to non-English speakers that it is the standard form, when it is a variation. This, along with American English teachers around the world teaching their form, misrepresents English itself.
And M-W defines literally as its own antonym, so it's not even logically sound.
Unfortunately, it's an accurate descriptive (as opposed to prescriptive) definition of how the word is commonly used in English.
As much as I wish it were otherwise, English is extremely far from logically sound.
But they do give the different meanings and explain the different usage.
Nothing new. Flammable. Inflammable. QED.
What do you think the job of a dictionary is?