Spyke

FBI using fear and terror to advance their political views? Sound like terrorists to me.

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ikiddreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Yes. What are you, one of these antiwar crazies? Maybe you support Palestinians not being murdered by the thousands? Maybe you're one of those whackos too, eh?

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The "antiwar crazies" was the sudden loud-ass guffaw moment from me, I really thought I knew the broad spectrum of combined words available, and I thought I knew the rough water-line re: fascist mask up or down, but woof! Ya just learn something new every day.

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lemmy.zip

Fuck those baby killing, rapists in Israel. Never gave two shits about Israel until they started killing women and children and bombing schools. Fuck em and the FBI and tRump's entire pedophilia-laden regime.

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i mean, haven't they been killing women and children since like, what, 1948?

i'm actually not sure on the details, but it seems to me that there's been non-stop conflict since pretty much the beginning

it's only now that it's making the news for some reason. maybe they pissed off too many western newspapers or sth and now they actually report about it

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"Anti-war crazies"

Anyone who is anti war is now a crazy.

Buckle up Buckaroos, the next one's gonna be a fuckin' doozy.

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We're monitoring right wing extremists, white supremacists, armed militias...

Yeah, for recruitment opportunities.

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Tolosreply
lemmy.world

An FBI memo produced by the bureau’s Los Angeles field office in October 2020 reported that one of its sources had come to believe Epstein “was a co-opted Mossad agent”.

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What/who are you quoting? Kinda weird to leave it un-attributed like that. I’m not asking for links or anything, but a name or something would really help me learn more.

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Fuck apartheid states. Fuck people/entities who think they are superior/chosen above others. Fuck ethnic cleansing. Fuck genocide.

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I don't have it, sorry. I downloaded the video from a simplex chat that isn't public. You can probably find it somewhere by searching "Jonathan Greenblatt interview"

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lemmy.world

I used to think of the ADL as "good guys", fighting antisemitism etc. But they're just a mouth piece for the Israeli government and the absolute worst, inhumane, atrocities committed to Palestinians in their war against Hamas. Israel is no better to Palestinians than Nazis were to Jews, but everything is a-ok as far as ADL is concerned - Judaism and Israel are conflated. No moral qualms, no historic comparisons, no hypocrisy, no sirreee.

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piefed.social

Fuck Israel and fuck you FBI. Matter of fact, fuck you US. Come and get me bitch ass MIB wannabes.

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lemmy.today

You’re more likely to get hit by Kash Patel driving drunk than you are to be purposefully captured by him.

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discuss.tchncs.de

Ok so I watched the whole video and he never said that in the video. They, the adl, monitor Internet traffic for things that could be potentially dangerous for Israel and then forward that to law enforcement. There certainly is overlap there but the headline totally misconstrues what is being said in the video. I am by no means a fan of Israel or the United States but there are plenty of real actual things to be upset about. No need to muddy the waters with statements like this. At least the posted video is not sufficient evidence to back up the stated claim

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Agreed, thank you. If someone's reaction to this was any different I can only assume they either didn't watch it or are just inflammatory bots.

If right-minded people spew misinformation they destroy their own cause

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The Constitution ONLY Protects SCHOOL SHOOTERS and ISRAELI RAPISTS!

-Freedom Loving Republicans!

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Israel is a genocidal menace to world order and peace and has no small part in the current global fall to fascism. Fuck Israel.

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lemmy.world

There once was a land where people were free and had first amendments rights.

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Canacondareply
lemmy.ca

people were free and had first amendments rights.

Technically there were no laws prohibiting pre-colonial indigenous folks from owning firearms.

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lemmy.ca

To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize

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Let's check what's the only ethnical group I'm not allowed to criticize in my country...

<BANNED FOR ANTISEMITISM!!!!!11

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lemmy.world

It's already a thing.

Remember when AIPAC was putting college students' faces and personal info on ad trucks during the protests in late 2024 and 2025?

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sh.itjust.works

Fuck Israel. Have fun spreading your resources thinner than Donald's skin, FBI.

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These FBI losers need to stop wasting our tax dollars on useless bs. Get fucked any Epstein supporting agency.

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Israel is an illegitimate state, whose only purpose is the slaughter of those they deem "lesser than"

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lemmy.world

I think literally everyone is being monitored by the FBI. So you know, go nuts. Your "List" becomes less useful when everyone is on it.

I'm not a big fan of anyone who causes undue harm to civilians.

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Yeah I mean that's true but I'm saying it's less useful as a list of terrorists. It just becomes a list of everybody.

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bigmamothreply
lemmy.world

Who cause undue harm to civilian

And it s fucking using your god given right to criticize a country You are the brainwash saying I dont deserve privacy cause I'm a nice boy that never did nothing wrong without even beginning to conceive what s the issue with it

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

I think you misundestood the comment... It's laughable at how many things they threaten to "put people on a list" over, and if true, that list is uselessly long and lacking meaning.

I also presume the harm to civilians was a criticism of the IDF...

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yeah might have misunderstood the harm to civilian part big list arent as useless as before. We have massive data and with palanthir and all that shit they can prosecute you on stupid stuff as a retaliation

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Oh I'll use my God given right to criticize.

Shut the fuck up you don't know me; you know NOTHING of me, peon. I don't like Israel's government doing atrocities, I was just saying it slightly differently. I'm mad as hell about privacy but there's FUCKALL I can do about it. I weep for the myriad issues with my shit hole country.

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Fuck Israel, fuck Kash Patel, fuck anyone complicit in the genocide. Chop plunk.

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ADL is a foreign lobbyist organization and should be under scrutiny as such, and for having lied all this time about who they are.

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lemmy.world

While we're on the subject, how bout those Epstein files... darn things just won't go away.

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Oh no! They just happen to have a blindspot for children-rapist billionaires! They monitor everyone but them. Not extremist enough I guess...

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As the California regional Commanding Officer of Antifa, this is the first time I've heard of Turtle Island Liberation Front.

Doing some cursory research, it looks like they don't exist outside a single cell of a few guys. Sources are mainstream news agencies and the federal Department of Justice, all of which have been compromised and are not a valid source.

Turtle Island refers to the earth or North America by some indigenous groups, some of which engage in activism towards civil rights for indigenous peoples, a legitimate concern.

I'm reminded of the regional anti-gang law enforcement groups who alleged deep expertise in how street gangs worked, but were mostly making bullshit up. It's from them that we got the notions that gangs were feral teens who could not be negotiated with and simultaneously global crime syndicates that engage in drug trafficking and human trafficking.

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Israel sucks! Fuck them. Some Jews are cool. But some Jews can also fuck right off!

If you think killing people because of the group they were born into is good or justified, fuck you!

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They don't like when people criticise their genocide eh? fuck em. hope the US burns.

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When criticism is considered a crime then you know that the ones calling it that are up to no good and know it.

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Guys like the one speaking are what guillotines are for. They cant stop it if they stay on this course. They cant control 400 million Americans with bluster and threats, and we wont be giving up our freedom of speech for Israel.

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Fuck Israel and fuck Patel. Alcoholic fucking administration.

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Thinking back to an old Darknet Diaries episode where he talks with a former IDF intelligence officer about how many IDF veterans go on to found US based tech firms and how they sometimes use those connections to aid in their clandestine operations

If anyone remembers what episode that was I would love to go back and listen to it again

edit: found it, it was episode 28

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lemmy.world

For a brief moment I misread the title and was wondering why anything the CEO of AOL had to say was relevant in 20-fucking-26.

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At least these people with incredible surveillance powers are also incredibly stupid. Who the fuck says T.I.?

Oh shit, his daughter might be losing her virginity! Quick greenblat! Go fuck off!

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feddit.org

don't worry guys, we're just protecting the good guys here (/s)

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no but seriously:

israel has been a menace since its inception. it was well-known how much havoc they caused in the middle east. i'd even go as far as to say that the middle east would be a completely normal country today, at the level of organization of italy, spain or greece, if it hadn't constant been bombed over and over again. and at the center of it all is israel. it's quite amazing to think about how much harm they've caused.

and why? because of fossil fuels. the middle east is the biggest source of liquid/gaseous fossil fuels. which the US uses as a basis of its entire industry. so there's the motive.

and now, with renewable energy on the horizon, these fuels are projected to not be needed much longer, so there's no reason to uphold israel anymore, which nobody liked anyways because they're toxic af. so that's why the news about all the cruelties are now allowed to slip through, into public consciousness.

at least that's how i explain it to myself. why else would the news only make the rounds today? the cruelties have been ongoing for decades.

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Well, I'm not American but here's my stance on Israel for the record:

Israel are a bunch of racist douchebag pigs carrying out wanton slaughter of innocents in a completely non-proportional response, led by a fucking war criminal (Netanyahu) sucking the pathetic little cheeto dick of a pedophile (Trump) who is tonguing the former's asshole.

Now if they want to monitor me, let them go right the fuck ahead. Hope they enjoy very disturbing thoughts.

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lemmy.world

Monitoring the LLMs? Yeah, their list is not a functional list. They have a very big and seemingly, very impressive list to some people, but it's useless. Doesn't mean they wont they and ruin people with it, but that will happen regardless of what they say online.

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I took that line to mean: monitoring LLM queries; which is one of the many reasons you should be skeptical of this whole push for AI companionship from big tech and billionaire-backed media firms, alike.

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Fuck this bad imitation of Stephen Miller and fuck the apartheid state of Israel, which is currently committing war crimes and genocide under the leadership of a war criminal.

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Varpeggioreply
lemmy.zip

How about we don’t genocide anybody for once instead?

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sh.itjust.works

Maybe Hitler was right to genocide the jews? What the fuck is wrong with you?

Most Jews moved all over the world and mostly never to Israel before the holocaust. They weren't that Zionist until the holocaust. Israel, and it's genocidal society, it some kind of CPTSD from what Hitler did. Hitler was absolutely wrong.

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Israeli warmongering is unrelated to the Holocaust. Zionism is a whole separate ideology; and neither justifies the other.

The mentality of genocide warranting genocide is exactly what the Nazis used to psuedo-justify their bigotry (against those they scapegoated for sabotaging them in WWI). That same mentality is used now to psuedo-justify Zionism because of the Holocaust. Zionists are like Nazis; but Zionists do not vindicate Nazis.

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sh.itjust.works

I doubt Hitler had any problems with Zionism if it meant Jews leaving Germany.

Have I stumbled into an actual anti-semitic shithole here, the kind the ADL is always crying wolf about?

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I absolutely did not mean to legitimize any genuine anti-Semitism. Idk about the source comment but I am arguing quite the opposite. Genocide is always wrong. The Holocaust was an atrocity. Israeli's terrorism in Palestine is an atrocity.

I am objecting to the idea that Israeli aggression can be written off a reaction or response to the Holocaust. Israeli aggression is done because Israel deems it strategic for political reasons; and because IDF soldiers (many of which source from the UK and USA) are eager to enlist for financial and racist reasons.

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Getting distracted by the ethical dimensions of histoical blame is really a fucking weird move in a discussion that started with “Hitler was right.”

There's one person in this thread actively advocating for genocide, and it's not either of us.

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teyrnonreply
sh.itjust.works

More often than not on left subs it's an agent of them saying anti jewish things to then tar the group.

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sh.itjust.works

And the guy “well, actually”ing me and not the guy retroactively justifying Hitler's holocaust?

Maybe it's a comfortiig to think all the anti-semites are mossad agents, but I don°t think it's true. The instinct to racialize social problems is very human.

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teyrnonreply
sh.itjust.works

It's a very real and very rudimentary tactic to say something inflammatory then use that as an excuse to tar a group. Were you born yesterday?

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So a guy says “Hitler was right to kill all the jews” and the one everyone is picking fights with is the guy saying “hmm” about it.

Interesting.

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I didn’t say I agree with the latter, but that it’s less horrific to say in 2026 is quite the achievement by Netanyahu.

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I hope they're paid up on their data storage. And oh boy the ya'llqueda aren't going to like this.

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I learned about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_of_Settlement and after reading that; It seems like the Russians just didn't wanna get taken over by Germany and didn't give two fucks about the jews and that Israel is a forced settlement that's pretty much a world agreed upon sanctuary state that wanted more land and used colonization tactics to forcefully remove Palestinians for a few generations and now we're here actually giving a fuck. But yeah....... Let's all not say that....

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If we all just install GrapheneOS and write "Israel commits genocide every day" on reddit we would create endless stream of people they need to monitor and document.

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