I feel like Fuentes is probably out of the Rat King's league. He seems to have at least heard of a toothbrush, and Ashley St. Clair claims that he's much better read than most online fascists (which tracks with what I've seen of him, he's at least aware of history and politics even if his conclusions are batshit).
Of the two people on earth that shouldn't be judging others on their looks, I would wager asmongold and Fuentes would be in the top 5. They look like walking herpes outbreaks.
asmongold yeah but fuentes' attractiveness is only bogged down by his personality/politics and that stupid haircut. fix those problems and he's chained to my radiator.
Yeah, like I agree with what the other guy was saying but objectively Fuentes would be a completely average unremarkable background person if he wasn't cosplaying hitler
I'm imagining him bald. Always take away the hair if it's distracting. Suddenly he's a dodgy plumber that never finishes the job right and is postponing legal trouble by putting the business in their mother's name.
But still a valid justification for being gay. And I'd hazard it's a requirement that you find men far more attractive than women. Because if you don't, then you are merely Bi, (and might have the best of all worlds-- we need more science on that I think).
Are we going to completely ignore the fact that male birds are prettied up SPECIFICALLY TO IMPRESS THEIR LADY COUNTERPARTS? Holy mother of fuck
Like biologically these critters by and large are programmed to behave in “please like me and have babies” ways. If these dorks are going to make those comparisons they’d better start building impressive houses and wearing colorful clothes to make women happy.
As a bird lover I do have to note that some female birds have intricate colorings that humans can't see given our limited visible spectrum capabilities. Birds are tetrachromats, they can see UV for the most part. Starlings are a good example.
Men and women. Males and females. Girls and boys. People are obsessed with gender to the point they forget we're all just human.
Last night I was watching these two chuds watch one of my favourite movies (Children of Men) and one of them, responding to Julianne Moore's character's behaviour said "Ah, I HATE women like that!" and it genuinely caused my brain to skip a beat. There was nothing about the character's actions that was specific to female behaviour. I don't understand why he couldn't have said "I hate PEOPLE like that."
I am an aspiring writer. I did a beta reader swap with one of my colleagues who just like me would like to be a sci-fi author. He was desperate to know how I was "so good" at writing women. Dude, lol, it's not hard. Literally all you have to do to avoid all the men-writing-women pitfalls is remember that women are human beings first and women second, with all the same desires, hopes and fears as men.
I just watched Children of Men the other day, I have it on DVD. The way they killed Moore's character off is always jarring, like "fuck, I forgot that she dies now".
I had a deeply religious room mate freshman year of college. He watched 300 at least 5 times in theaters and IDK how many times on DVD. I can only assume for the glistening chiseled men because its not that good. I always thought he was repressing his desires and this was the only way he could let them out at the time.
I'm surprised you don't know who they are. Nick Fuentes is on record as saying Hitler was a cool guy and that he was tired of pretending he wasn't. He's mad at Trump for not being extreme enough.
Oh yeah and Asmondgild has admitted to using the smell of a rotting rat corpse as an alarm clock when the sun hearts it up.
They both are true museum quality specimin for the "master" race.
The argument about birds is ignorant because of basic behaviour ecology.
Arguing from Zahavis handicap hypothesis males display strength by giving themselves a handicap. Being highly visible, lumbered with pointless feathers.
Females are camouflaged since they often are the ones on the nest.
Yeah, evolutionarily, the more conspicuous male birds drew away predators that would have otherwise attacked the nest. Thus making it more likely their offspring survived.
Individuals are beautiful or ugly based on what an individual likes/dislikes. Not an entire gender.
And no one has ever needed makeup, that is a choice, not a requirement. Putting makeup on someone you find repulsive will not make them acceptable, how stupid these people are.
I think the reality is that women like make up mixed with gendered expectations. I think there's a difference.
Besides, listen, if you think men are better looking than women you might be gay and that's actually ok. It's sad that these guys are so homophobic that they can't grapple with their own feelings lol.
There are more statues of men because most statues were made of historical figures and most historical figures were men, due to gender roles and suppression of women
I stopped paying attention to Asmongoloid years ago. He was funny when he was losing his shit over WOW, but his takes on politics are fucking idiotic. He just says whatever he thinks will get the most clicks.
That's the same thing as just saying retarded. Why not just call him retarded? I do not think you're woke if you call someone a mongoloid who doesn't call himself that. There's nothing you can do to walk it back either, I already know you're not woke.
I've been banned for saying the r-word from some subs. There are a lot of sensitive p*ssies on Lemmy, in case you didn't notice. I don't give a shit about appearing "woke".
We're so cooked as a society when someone as unread, uneducated, ignorant, etc., as asmongold can just decide one day to be political (I'm sure no money was involved at all) and start spreading the dumbest propaganda to millions of young men and boys.
This reminded me how one day I was thinking I knew him only marginally, one of the many talking heads with sometimes weird opinions, and a little after that I saw a clip of one of his horrible takes and blocked his ugly mug right away.
Funny how fate works.
Incel losers clearly have attractiveness that is off the charts and too intimidating for anybody male or female to deal with. It's so bad they can't even fuck each other, because of the sheer levels of attractiveness involved.
I think, they mean asmongold's "argument" is cherrypicked. You can find so many examples of primarily women being lauded or even paid for how beautiful they are, but let's look at ancient statues instead.
Historically, men did have to be pretty and capable for woman to chose them, so they dance, sing, apply make up to look pretty so they're picked by women for mating. But the incapable men of patriarchal society made women do makeup so they can pick and choose women like they're shopping. Woman don't need makeup to look pretty, it's the men that should be.
For an equally unscientific, vibes based counter-argument (not to be taken seriously): Would it not stand to reason that a highly intelligent social species like humans (that also lacks obvious physical features intended to attract a mate, like the peacock's feathers) would select a partner that is good at being social (ie. not being an arsehole) and that this is where these incels fail?
Iirc Sapolksy’s lectures point out that according to sociological studies, humans are pretty much smack dab in the middle when it comes to the attraction generated by men that give ”muscular territorial fighters” vs the ones giving “soft caretakers”.
So it depends on the individual if they're more into peacocks or empathetic men.
Men are ugly orks, which is why more and more women are lesbian. There is just nothing worth of being attracted to men.
Better?
Let's see what the opinions on this are.
EDIT: I waited for people to show their opiniom before saying that it is all subjective, I just wanted to see which of the two opinions is less popular
Isn't the Greek statues being male thing also partly because they didn't generally hold feminity in high regard compared to masculinity? Or was that the Romans?
These two really need to just kiss already.
The hood stays on
I feel like Fuentes is probably out of the Rat King's league. He seems to have at least heard of a toothbrush, and Ashley St. Clair claims that he's much better read than most online fascists (which tracks with what I've seen of him, he's at least aware of history and politics even if his conclusions are batshit).
Nah, he finds the grossness attractive.
https://youtu.be/-u6aX3SQQJw?t=75
Of the two people on earth that shouldn't be judging others on their looks, I would wager asmongold and Fuentes would be in the top 5. They look like walking herpes outbreaks.
asmongold yeah but fuentes' attractiveness is only bogged down by his personality/politics and that stupid haircut. fix those problems and he's chained to my radiator.
You should probably chain him to your radiator anyways.
Maybe to one in the car instead of the one in the house.
Is it just me or is it chilly in here? Let's crank the heat up another 500 degrees or so.
Gotta have a gag tho cause that voice is grating
Yeah, like I agree with what the other guy was saying but objectively Fuentes would be a completely average unremarkable background person if he wasn't cosplaying hitler
I'm imagining him bald. Always take away the hair if it's distracting. Suddenly he's a dodgy plumber that never finishes the job right and is postponing legal trouble by putting the business in their mother's name.
By contrast, asmongold is a solid 4.
and hes likely not into women.
Those two walking morgue residents look as though AIDS and gonorrhea had a failed abortion together.
It can also be you being ultra, super-duper, neon pink gay.
... band name
If you polled 100 bi people, I’d be surprised if you got fewer than 90 who said that they find women more attractive on average.
I'm an outlier; I realized that the more androgynous someone is, the hotter they are. If I can't tell what you are, I'm turned on.
Hey
Sorry, not attracted to sheets.
What if we moisturize her?
Wet sheets are an even bigger turn off.
Fine, more for me
Agreed. A partner with masculine and feminine traits is hot af.
The sweet spot for is it lick or dick
For me, its true that women are more attractive on average, but if i find a good looking guy, i like them more.
I like guys, its just that most of them are not particulatly attractive.
that is the most offhand justification for being gay ever
But still a valid justification for being gay. And I'd hazard it's a requirement that you find men far more attractive than women. Because if you don't, then you are merely Bi, (and might have the best of all worlds-- we need more science on that I think).
no, thats being pansexual and polyamorous
Are we going to completely ignore the fact that male birds are prettied up SPECIFICALLY TO IMPRESS THEIR LADY COUNTERPARTS? Holy mother of fuck
Like biologically these critters by and large are programmed to behave in “please like me and have babies” ways. If these dorks are going to make those comparisons they’d better start building impressive houses and wearing colorful clothes to make women happy.
and the fact that female birds need to have that bland colouring as camouflage since they incubate the eggs
No you see they uhh do that to... checks notes get 'mogged'.
As a bird lover I do have to note that some female birds have intricate colorings that humans can't see given our limited visible spectrum capabilities. Birds are tetrachromats, they can see UV for the most part. Starlings are a good example.
I'm not gay but the man i sleep with is.
Studies have shown that at least half of all homosexual are gay.
Men and women. Males and females. Girls and boys. People are obsessed with gender to the point they forget we're all just human.
Last night I was watching these two chuds watch one of my favourite movies (Children of Men) and one of them, responding to Julianne Moore's character's behaviour said "Ah, I HATE women like that!" and it genuinely caused my brain to skip a beat. There was nothing about the character's actions that was specific to female behaviour. I don't understand why he couldn't have said "I hate PEOPLE like that."
I am an aspiring writer. I did a beta reader swap with one of my colleagues who just like me would like to be a sci-fi author. He was desperate to know how I was "so good" at writing women. Dude, lol, it's not hard. Literally all you have to do to avoid all the men-writing-women pitfalls is remember that women are human beings first and women second, with all the same desires, hopes and fears as men.
GRRM when asked how he writes women so diverse and authentic.
I just watched Children of Men the other day, I have it on DVD. The way they killed Moore's character off is always jarring, like "fuck, I forgot that she dies now".
"I'm not gay, its perfectly natural and totally hetro-masculine to get a boner over chiseled, glistening men.. Its just science!"
I had a deeply religious room mate freshman year of college. He watched 300 at least 5 times in theaters and IDK how many times on DVD. I can only assume for the glistening chiseled men because its not that good. I always thought he was repressing his desires and this was the only way he could let them out at the time.
adolf hitlers:
WE AGREE
AH: One ball out of two, would tap.
These guys are so gay and so closeted they don’t even know it themselves.
Wait, are these not out gay guys circlejerking for lols?
They are prominent right wing political influencers. So, in a sense, yes but they’re doing it with zero self awareness.
Amazing. I'm having real trouble wrapping my head around that.
I'm surprised you don't know who they are. Nick Fuentes is on record as saying Hitler was a cool guy and that he was tired of pretending he wasn't. He's mad at Trump for not being extreme enough.
Oh yeah and Asmondgild has admitted to using the smell of a rotting rat corpse as an alarm clock when the sun hearts it up.
They both are true museum quality specimin for the "master" race.
Don’t worry, so are they.
Nick Fuentes is so far in the closet he's in Narnia
The argument about birds is ignorant because of basic behaviour ecology. Arguing from Zahavis handicap hypothesis males display strength by giving themselves a handicap. Being highly visible, lumbered with pointless feathers.
Females are camouflaged since they often are the ones on the nest.
Yeah, evolutionarily, the more conspicuous male birds drew away predators that would have otherwise attacked the nest. Thus making it more likely their offspring survived.
Hmmm that sounds pretty gay you guys
No, no. It's scientific
im homoscientific
Human scientific or same scientific?
im human so both
So, homohomoscientific.
Individuals are beautiful or ugly based on what an individual likes/dislikes. Not an entire gender. And no one has ever needed makeup, that is a choice, not a requirement. Putting makeup on someone you find repulsive will not make them acceptable, how stupid these people are.
Thought this was a shitpost at first
All hot takes are shitposts now
Just come out the closet guys, but make sure to make it a stream goal first 🤣🤣🤣
"no homo, but I like dudes"
Women need makeup?
I think the reality is that women like make up mixed with gendered expectations. I think there's a difference.
Besides, listen, if you think men are better looking than women you might be gay and that's actually ok. It's sad that these guys are so homophobic that they can't grapple with their own feelings lol.
Keep reasonable explanations out of this!
No one cares what you two ugly clowns think... Just shut up and piss off already.
"Peak aesthetic form" lol
There are more statues of men because most statues were made of historical figures and most historical figures were men, due to gender roles and suppression of women
Statues made by artist choice are overwhelmingly of women. Statues commissioned by the subject themselves are overwhelmingly of men...
also there is a large number of statues of women, i.e. nymphs, etc.
So stupid. Arguing from a patriarchal society's beauty standards and not even noticing.
So stupid paying any attention to that corpse who’s known for being really good at a video game and ragebait
The male peacock is the gayest bird with all those fancy feathers.
Source: https://www.exocomics.com/432/
I stopped paying attention to Asmongoloid years ago. He was funny when he was losing his shit over WOW, but his takes on politics are fucking idiotic. He just says whatever he thinks will get the most clicks.
I've heard of Asmongoloid, seems like a troll, I've never watched his videos so I had no idea he was gay
His online name is Asmongold, but I called him Asmongoloid as a way of calling him a moron without using the "R" word.
That's the same thing as just saying retarded. Why not just call him retarded? I do not think you're woke if you call someone a mongoloid who doesn't call himself that. There's nothing you can do to walk it back either, I already know you're not woke.
I've been banned for saying the r-word from some subs. There are a lot of sensitive p*ssies on Lemmy, in case you didn't notice. I don't give a shit about appearing "woke".
Oh so it's to get around the censors, I see
We're so cooked as a society when someone as unread, uneducated, ignorant, etc., as asmongold can just decide one day to be political (I'm sure no money was involved at all) and start spreading the dumbest propaganda to millions of young men and boys.
One lives in his basement and never showers and the other has all gay friends whom are nazies thru and thru.
These two deserve each other, fucking losers.
Coming from the beady-eyed trash rodent, that means nothing anyway.
Isn't this just tongue-in-cheek?
Something's definitely in some cheek
That sounds gay 😂🤣
Well... there isn't much of a sound... More like a hum
Like from like..let's say a motorboat?
Considering the source, I doubt it.
That man cry-wanks
Can we go back to ridiculing and ostracizing the village idiots instead of letting them amalgamate into a hivemind? Thanks
Turns out we all are the village idiots.
Asmongold and Nick Fuentes meeting in person for the first time (animated).
This reminded me how one day I was thinking I knew him only marginally, one of the many talking heads with sometimes weird opinions, and a little after that I saw a clip of one of his horrible takes and blocked his ugly mug right away. Funny how fate works.
Incel losers clearly have attractiveness that is off the charts and too intimidating for anybody male or female to deal with. It's so bad they can't even fuck each other, because of the sheer levels of attractiveness involved.
"naturally attractive" do these idiots seriously think that attractiveness is objective?
Not objective, natural lol!
but if theyre naturally attractive then that means that attractive is the same for everyone
cant be naturally attractive because attractiveness is subjective
Wind can be a nice breeze or a deathtrap. Natural doesn't mean same. it means natural.
But I wasn't even talking about the actual meaning. I was making a joke based on his original tweet.
Well that's not very cherrypicked at all.
Help me understand your point... wouldn't posting any individual tweet by a person be considered 'cherrypicking' by your definition?
Like yeah, of course they're posting the tweet with the funny/stupid thing in it. This is a meme community.
Are you really going to defend asmongold on lemmy? Sure you want to do that?
I think, they mean asmongold's "argument" is cherrypicked. You can find so many examples of primarily women being lauded or even paid for how beautiful they are, but let's look at ancient statues instead.
Remember how society did that to Michael? This is toxic masculinity doing this to gay men.
Edit: the expectations, the racism, the surgeries.
Anyone in their social circles could have answered easily and positively to that other thread "have you ever met actually dumb people?"
Historically, men did have to be pretty and capable for woman to chose them, so they dance, sing, apply make up to look pretty so they're picked by women for mating. But the incapable men of patriarchal society made women do makeup so they can pick and choose women like they're shopping. Woman don't need makeup to look pretty, it's the men that should be.
No one should be, honestly. We can all just fuck each other based on personality
For an equally unscientific, vibes based counter-argument (not to be taken seriously): Would it not stand to reason that a highly intelligent social species like humans (that also lacks obvious physical features intended to attract a mate, like the peacock's feathers) would select a partner that is good at being social (ie. not being an arsehole) and that this is where these incels fail?
Iirc Sapolksy’s lectures point out that according to sociological studies, humans are pretty much smack dab in the middle when it comes to the attraction generated by men that give ”muscular territorial fighters” vs the ones giving “soft caretakers”.
So it depends on the individual if they're more into peacocks or empathetic men.
Two someones needs to go back into the closet before they start loosing followers.
Men are ugly orks, which is why more and more women are lesbian. There is just nothing worth of being attracted to men.
Better?
Let's see what the opinions on this are.
EDIT: I waited for people to show their opiniom before saying that it is all subjective, I just wanted to see which of the two opinions is less popular
I agree, men are ugly, if I were a woman I'd be a lesbian too
This comment neatly describes how gender and sexual orientation are independent of each other
You could be a woman yk 😏
I like being a man tho
That's what we all believe.
Well, gals are annoying beaches, that's why more and more men are gay. There is just nothing worth of being with a woman.
Sounds as idiotic as what you wrote, no idea what we're doing here.
Uh I think I recognize his name for one of his recent comments. Dude hates all men, hates being a man and seems to be ashamed of being born a man.
Something like that, not quite.
A social experiment.
I believe in equal ugliness for everyone, that's why I'm asexual.
Not All Men are orks. I am a swamp ogre.
Women are lesbian because they are born lesbian, not because men are ugly
Read the edit, also, I have seen man/women go gay out of despair. That's...quite something.
Ewww girls.
🙄
I love how the 'source' link is actually named 'sauce'. Error? Maybe. Fitting? Absolutely!
There was a trend pre covid of using different S words instead of "source". "Salsa", "salami", etc.
This is a decades old trend for 4 chan. I remember people asking for the "sauce" in 2012.
2012 is pre-covid.
it is like saying males need to display toxic masculinity to make up for lacking any interesting character traits.
Oh shit, that's what I was missing.
Hehe that's pretty gey
Hah, gayeeeee
women love when men wear makeup
Can confirm (at least for some)! My aunts still carry a torch for these bros:
"Dragged" indeed.
It's a penis, not a sunset
Any scientists need some test subjects?
Isn't the Greek statues being male thing also partly because they didn't generally hold feminity in high regard compared to masculinity? Or was that the Romans?
Women were seen as inferior men simply needed for the continuation of the species
I don't get it, I've always thought men were the grossest, and I am a man.
Takes all kinds, Nick, it's okay to find men more attractive; some think 800-pounders are irresistible.
Unless it's from Nietzsche
Absolutely nobody agrees with that. Women are beautiful, men are utilitarian. You have some beauty to some, it is not like a woman.
I am a tool with a tool