Dude come on soccer is like the only sport that's not high-falutin bullshit for most of the globe maybe we could reach out to the devs and explain how this feels to everyone during an ongoing genocide ;_;
Look, this sucks, FIFA is a shitty organization, but it's possible that the devs are just soccer fanatics. You think Mexicans are boycotting FIFA for instance? They probably mistakenly believed this was apolitical
Yeah I think this is a little attempt to make Firefox more appealing to the everyman. There’s no link to FIFA’s site, no sponsor symbols, no tournament branding, etc. If it was an ad it would be written as FIFA ™ World Cup ™ ®️™ 2026 ™. You’d know because if they wrote it like that and stuck an ugly logo without any agreement with FIFA they would have been sued for 600 million dollars.
Even back when I had zero interest in watching sports and hung out with people who also didn’t, when the World Cup was happening, all plans change to make the most out of the match schedule.
For most people on earth, visiting the tournament is pretty political, but watching it at a restaurant or bar kind of isn’t, and seeing a fixture list and scores absolutely isn’t. That’s why there’s so much jockeying over the political potential of the sport in the first place.
Huh. I stand corrected. I still believe my theory though. If you normally don’t look up sports stuff, there’s a ton of places online where the match schedule and scores are published. Every sports publication has a section for that, and there’s dozens of apps in each language. And now with the explosion of sports betting there’s way more.
The most “neutral” way to look at this information would be Google, which has its own UI for it. This is Lemmy, so obviously that wouldn’t seem like a neutral choice to most of us here, including me. I kind of still feel like this is the most neutral choice short of launching Mozilla Sports sponsored by Mozilla BetGamble
Edit: hey, also make sure it isn't set to delete everything it's ever downloaded when you clear your history. This setting is enabled by default now! Wtf is happening at Mozilla?
hey, also make sure it isn't set to delete everything it's ever downloaded when you clear your history. This setting is enabled by default now! Wtf is happening at Mozilla?
I think that part is just a misunderstanding, the setting simply defines what to do when you delete a download from the downloads page. Clearing your history does not affect you downloads
The World Cup used to be something that people actually looked forward to with a kind of simple joy. Before, say, 2018, this kind of countdown would have been useful information to me.
I think this is someone who misread the mood of their users to FIFA not paid placement.
Why would FIFA give a shit about Firefox users anyway? 😆
Agreed. Back when FIFA announced that the US was going to get another world cup I was over the moon and thought for sure my husband and I would go to at least one game, and that was before the host cities were announced. (At that point we were season ticket holders for our local MLS club as well.) I live in a host city, so going wouldn't be even mildly inconvenient, but not only am I not, I don't even plan to watch the cup. 12 and 16 years ago I was watching every single game, even streaming them on my phone while at work. Not that FIFA was a bastion of morality even then, but I feel like it's gotten so much worse, and supporting the games in any way just rubs me wrong. I'm also not happy helping this administration get a win of any kind, so I'll just catch on Lemmy who wins and call it good enough.
In 2010 the entire office shut down, people were projecting games on sheets hung up in the cafeteria, two of my engineers were dutch so the whole team went to go watch one of the games to support them, and nobody even thought about trying to stop it.
It was a multinational company and it gave everybody something to talk about and even the people who didn't care about the games often went along for the drama.
And that's dead dead dead.
My kid asked me yesterday "why does everything just keep getting shittier?"
I used to work at Google before it sucked and this was exactly the kind of thing the search team used to build info boxes for, just cause they knew people would want to know.
Like, there was a time when that company genuinely wanted to be helpful and informative.
I still have room in my heart to believe that people are still enthusiastic soccer fans, even if I'm not any more.
I love FOSS projects where there isn't a single picture or anything to be found on the main page. I just want to see what I'm getting into before I click download.
I get what you mean and agree, but this is the absolutely most recommended Android browser I've seen since going coming on Lemmy and also on deGoogle communities elsewhere, and was my go to browser until I left Googles Android. Can recommend.
I did see that and was wtf about it. And "Nimbus experiments" (per Katy's post below) means "ads"? Give it a break, Mozilla. Ok I'll turn off the experiments before they start injecting AI slop into pages.
Added: there appears to be no way to turn off all the experiments permanently. You can only change them one at a time, and sometimes it's unclear which setting turns the experiment off. In most there is a "control" setting and one or more "treatment" settings, where "control" presumably means off. FIFA is an experiment all by itself. Sheesh.
Tap the logo until it says "Debug settings enabled"
Go back and enter the new "Secret Settings" menu. There you can turn off Nimbus and Labs permanently. Also toggle "Keep Debug Menu revealed" so you don't have to enable it every time you want to change something.
"Although we always have the best intentions, not everything that we try works as we want," said Jascha Kaykas-Wolff, Mozilla's chief marketing officer... "This was not a paid promotion but rather a collaboration that was intended to be fun."
I had sponsored stuff disabled too, and it still shows up. So it's not 'user-error'. Now don't get me wrong. I'm excited for the world cup so I don't mind the countdown. But only excited to see how big of a cluster fuck it's going to be.
nothing new here. esr from trixie; release and devedition from packages.mozilla.org. just updated and ran all three to see. sponsored and recommended crud was off (it is literally the first things that get changed on new installs) and are still off.
edit to add: on my android 'tablet' (phone without a sim), which i couldn't check last night.. updated browsers, then: fennec had this world cup ad in it. firefox nightly did not. still trying to get firefox release updated to see (it's only on 148).
Over the past week or so this has been so infuriating. Firefox is now randomly turning back on sponsored/featured stories in the homepage. So anti-user.
I remember some early version of Firefox all the way back in 2002 or 2006 had some world cup promotion kinda thing. But I guess it wasn't a payed promotion or anything like that and the event was perceived to be a lot less corporate then nowadays.
can we stop shoving sports into everyone's faces? I live in brazil and is so fucking annoying to hear about yet a fucking another sports news
I hate this expectation people impose onto me and everyone that they should care and magically be enthusiastic about it
Brazil? impossible to avoid then but yeah, still sucks
Dude come on soccer is like the only sport that's not high-falutin bullshit for most of the globe maybe we could reach out to the devs and explain how this feels to everyone during an ongoing genocide ;_;
Look, this sucks, FIFA is a shitty organization, but it's possible that the devs are just soccer fanatics. You think Mexicans are boycotting FIFA for instance? They probably mistakenly believed this was apolitical
Yeah I think this is a little attempt to make Firefox more appealing to the everyman. There’s no link to FIFA’s site, no sponsor symbols, no tournament branding, etc. If it was an ad it would be written as FIFA ™ World Cup ™ ®️™ 2026 ™. You’d know because if they wrote it like that and stuck an ugly logo without any agreement with FIFA they would have been sued for 600 million dollars.
Even back when I had zero interest in watching sports and hung out with people who also didn’t, when the World Cup was happening, all plans change to make the most out of the match schedule.
For most people on earth, visiting the tournament is pretty political, but watching it at a restaurant or bar kind of isn’t, and seeing a fixture list and scores absolutely isn’t. That’s why there’s so much jockeying over the political potential of the sport in the first place.
"View schedule" links to fifa.com
Huh. I stand corrected. I still believe my theory though. If you normally don’t look up sports stuff, there’s a ton of places online where the match schedule and scores are published. Every sports publication has a section for that, and there’s dozens of apps in each language. And now with the explosion of sports betting there’s way more.
The most “neutral” way to look at this information would be Google, which has its own UI for it. This is Lemmy, so obviously that wouldn’t seem like a neutral choice to most of us here, including me. I kind of still feel like this is the most neutral choice short of launching Mozilla Sports sponsored by Mozilla BetGamble
Oh what the Fuck
Who do I submit a complaint to?
Edit: hey, also make sure it isn't set to delete everything it's ever downloaded when you clear your history. This setting is enabled by default now! Wtf is happening at Mozilla?
I think that part is just a misunderstanding, the setting simply defines what to do when you delete a download from the downloads page. Clearing your history does not affect you downloads
You want to talk to their manager
The World Cup used to be something that people actually looked forward to with a kind of simple joy. Before, say, 2018, this kind of countdown would have been useful information to me.
I think this is someone who misread the mood of their users to FIFA not paid placement.
Why would FIFA give a shit about Firefox users anyway? 😆
Agreed. Back when FIFA announced that the US was going to get another world cup I was over the moon and thought for sure my husband and I would go to at least one game, and that was before the host cities were announced. (At that point we were season ticket holders for our local MLS club as well.) I live in a host city, so going wouldn't be even mildly inconvenient, but not only am I not, I don't even plan to watch the cup. 12 and 16 years ago I was watching every single game, even streaming them on my phone while at work. Not that FIFA was a bastion of morality even then, but I feel like it's gotten so much worse, and supporting the games in any way just rubs me wrong. I'm also not happy helping this administration get a win of any kind, so I'll just catch on Lemmy who wins and call it good enough.
In 2010 the entire office shut down, people were projecting games on sheets hung up in the cafeteria, two of my engineers were dutch so the whole team went to go watch one of the games to support them, and nobody even thought about trying to stop it.
It was a multinational company and it gave everybody something to talk about and even the people who didn't care about the games often went along for the drama.
And that's dead dead dead.
My kid asked me yesterday "why does everything just keep getting shittier?"
It’s Firefox caring about FIFA ad money, not FIFAa caring about you.
I used to work at Google before it sucked and this was exactly the kind of thing the search team used to build info boxes for, just cause they knew people would want to know.
Like, there was a time when that company genuinely wanted to be helpful and informative.
I still have room in my heart to believe that people are still enthusiastic soccer fans, even if I'm not any more.
But yeah could also just be monetization.
The laast update re-enabled shortcuts on Ironfox
https://ironfoxoss.org/
You're welcome
Thanks, I have beenlooking for this and waterwolf
Best app ever bruh
I love FOSS projects where there isn't a single picture or anything to be found on the main page. I just want to see what I'm getting into before I click download.
I get what you mean and agree, but this is the absolutely most recommended Android browser I've seen since going coming on Lemmy and also on deGoogle communities elsewhere, and was my go to browser until I left Googles Android. Can recommend.
Nice. Thx! Is that the spiritual successor to mull? Mull was the greatest android browser, a hardened fennec fork.
I wonder how much the FIFA paid Mozilla for this.
Probably nothing....
That would be stupid.
Boycott
ew
Yeah same here wtf
I did see that and was wtf about it. And "Nimbus experiments" (per Katy's post below) means "ads"? Give it a break, Mozilla. Ok I'll turn off the experiments before they start injecting AI slop into pages.
Added: there appears to be no way to turn off all the experiments permanently. You can only change them one at a time, and sometimes it's unclear which setting turns the experiment off. In most there is a "control" setting and one or more "treatment" settings, where "control" presumably means off. FIFA is an experiment all by itself. Sheesh.
Go to Settings -> About Firefox/Fennec
Tap the logo until it says "Debug settings enabled"
Go back and enter the new "Secret Settings" menu. There you can turn off Nimbus and Labs permanently. Also toggle "Keep Debug Menu revealed" so you don't have to enable it every time you want to change something.
Thanks. I already had the Nimbus settings turned off but got that FIFA thing anyway. I'll see if it happens again.
Not new, believe it or not. In 2017 they rolled out the creepiest experiment possible and then apologized with language that would be at home today.
It's not on my waterfox mobile :)
Nor on Firefox for Android. But I've removed the "sponsored stuff" on my new tabs page. This is more user error than intrusion IMO.
I had sponsored stuff disabled too, and it still shows up. So it's not 'user-error'. Now don't get me wrong. I'm excited for the world cup so I don't mind the countdown. But only excited to see how big of a cluster fuck it's going to be.
This is what my homepage settings look like on android. The world cup ad is entirely separate from sponsored stuff, and is enabled by default
Huh. I don't have that World Cup option. Is it a regional thing? I'm running Firefox 151.0.
Maybe. I'm in the US
I got it on a fresh Firefox install.
Nor on my IronFox 😇
I don't even see it on FF mobile which I've not even messed with settings extensively.
Firefox or fennec?
Firefox and ironFox
Chillest devs in existence
God forbid devs be excited for something.
They can be excited about something, just don't run ads about it on a browser that I only use so that I don't see ads
The Devs need to be as emotionless and devoid of personality like me
You can just disable it with Debug mode > Nimbus Experiments
Is it an advertisement? Looks more like a countdown to a world event.
Widely corrupted organization, and why this date in particular ? why not something actually useful ?
it's (functionally) an ad
Dude, it does not even say fifa word up. Get out of your buble. Many people actually care about the word cup
Which world cup does it count down to?
Yep, came with the AI update yesterday for me on Fennec. Wish they would leave Fennec as the no-bullshit version as it should be.
What AI update for Fennec??
The Firefox AI controls got pushed out with the latest update, everything's on by default but can be disabled in the settings
I saw this ad too.
As far as I know, I have all that crap disabled, and yet Mozilla shoved this ad up my ass.
Did I miss anything? What do I need to disable?
Settings -> Homepage -> Turn off "World Cup"
Thanks. There was indeed a new setting there and it was enabled by default.
I'm fucking angry.
You're welcome, I had to go find it after seeing it pop up on mine
I use regular Firefox and dont have any ads.
i was expecting more from the fennec team
wtf me too. where do i complain?
Can't reproduce on my end. I'm currently on a WiFi with a pihole, though (and uBlock Origin on FF mobile, but that might not work on those pages)
nothing new here. esr from trixie; release and devedition from packages.mozilla.org. just updated and ran all three to see. sponsored and recommended crud was off (it is literally the first things that get changed on new installs) and are still off.
edit to add: on my android 'tablet' (phone without a sim), which i couldn't check last night.. updated browsers, then: fennec had this world cup ad in it. firefox nightly did not. still trying to get firefox release updated to see (it's only on 148).
Over the past week or so this has been so infuriating. Firefox is now randomly turning back on sponsored/featured stories in the homepage. So anti-user.
First I'm hearing about it. None of those settings changed on my end.
Lucky you. Reading the comments here will show it isn't just me.
Maybe it's because I set a lot of those values with user.js?
🤮
I remember some early version of Firefox all the way back in 2002 or 2006 had some world cup promotion kinda thing. But I guess it wasn't a payed promotion or anything like that and the event was perceived to be a lot less corporate then nowadays.
I'm not seeing it on my Firefox Mobile, nor do I see any additional setting under the 'homepage' section.
No. Same Fennec F-Droid here, but nothing unusual.
lol, somehow this is funny
I saw this too
They need more things to deface than the whales conservation mural in Dallas
Guys, just tab the x to remove it. It's not that hard. It's like ranting about the weather widget just because you never leave your room