Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily?
I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.
They install it on my work laptop without my saying so. I uninstall it every time, and until they explicitly ask me to use it, I’m sticking with Firefox.
Does that count people using programs that you can't control using chrome on the backend such as Steam? It wouldn't be installed at all on my system if it weren't for stuff such as that.
Unfortunately I am. I really really don't want to be but somehow Firefox has turned into a buggy mess. Maybe it's just me but I have so many issues with it.
Dragging into a browser window doesn't work half the time. Trying to drag a tab nearly always bugs out the window resulting in no mouse clicks for tabs or address bar. Something screws up sometimes causing browser to flip to a random tab every time I switch back to a window, somehow related to pressing CTRL+ something. Sometimes the mouse cursor in a textbox/textarea screws up where it's not positioned where I'm typing, and I've even seen it go backwards while I type.
I have experienced these things often, albeit most of them only after having multiple windows open with many tabs. And they're not isolated to just one installation on one computer.
I'm just baffled how there can be so many consistent issues though. So much so that I can't justify using it over Chromium any longer, even with all of the issues with Chromium.
I've been using Firefox since the beginning, and I'm an adamant supporter of them. I really hope they get these things sorted out.
Shit take lol, seeing as Edge doesn't install literal malware (yet)
If anything, everyone that's tried to incessantly shove Chrome onto Internet Explorer users for years knowing full well about all its privacy issues owe them all an apology.
I love Steam's built in browser(its useful) and Gmod's built in browser though :(
actually lets narrow down the problem with Non-Chromium, Almost all of them arent designed for embedding into apps or isnt ready for production/does not have all web features.
Why the fuck is anyone still using chrome? Or windows for that matter. If it’s a work computer, whatever, I get it, but get that shit off of your personal devices.
To be fair, some sites/things don’t work with Firefox, and keeping up with Chromium derivatives is a difficult task.
Hence most default to Brave. They got the SEO. They got the marketing money and socials hype.
You have to dig deep into the internet to find Helium, Vivaldi, Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium, or whatever the fork de jure is. And that’s if you miss all the scamware.
Yeah, but I guarantee you, that 99.99% of Chrome users never used that feature. I also keep a spare chromium installation around, which I used one time for the browser based installer of GrapheneOS.
Other than that, I never needed that feature, and I am already a power user.
In my experience, sites that don't work with Firefox are really rare. Or maybe if it doesn't work with Firefox, I just close the tab and go do something else...
Awe dang. I have a theory that the more we push away their data centers they will recoup it one cpu\gpu at a time at the user-end. This is testing that feasibility.
Let's say I tried to show this to my brother in an attempt to make the boy degoogle and he went "Nah, I'm not a gigabite hoarder, they can have the 4 gigas."
But don't worry, the model isn't used for any browser features users actually use, so it's just Google wasting petabytes of bandwidth to service a fraction of a percent of its userbase.
If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps.
So then what is left?
I stay away from sites and services that don't work well on Firefox. Firefox complies with open web standards, if a site doesn't run well on Firefox it implies that the operator is doing something fucky that you'd probably not be OK with.
That's the one thing I'm still using stock Firefox with. I have a few hundred if not a thousand tabs open on mobile so haven't felt too strong an urge to switch just yet lol
Ever tried uploading an 8GB file to Copyparty on Firefox for Android? It just hangs (but so does the unofficial app). I needed to ask my sister to use Chrome :(
Lol who is even using chrome still?
Edit: Yes guys I know, I am aware of the borderline monopoly Google has had on the browser space. My question should have been: Who is tech savvy and is using Google Chrome voluntarily?
I bet those numbers are inflated by work and school computers forcing it down your throat.
3.62 billion users as of March
...God damnit.
Well, at least one of those users might be my Flaresolverr machine with a Chrome user-agent header
They install it on my work laptop without my saying so. I uninstall it every time, and until they explicitly ask me to use it, I’m sticking with Firefox.
Ayy what's up twin.
"Oh our portals are only certified for Chrome. Firefox won't work."
I beg to differ.
Chrome's last genuine use died Aug 2024 when Puppeteer started supporting Firefox.
About 68% of the world according to this.
Does that count people using programs that you can't control using chrome on the backend such as Steam? It wouldn't be installed at all on my system if it weren't for stuff such as that.
Electron identifies itself as electron in it's user agent so you could easily identify and separate it out.
Also I doubt most companies leave the user agent as the default, they probably change it for whatever version the app is.
Ah that makes sense, thanks for the info!
It’s even a vast majority in China.
That’s a little surprising.
Which again confirms my assumption that most people are idiots.
Some might call you an idiot for "not wearing the right clothes" or "not eating X".
Just because others don't have the same amount of interest about something, albeit having some would help, doesn't mean they're idiots.
Tech savy people are ignorant as well. My colleagues are all into Meta, Google and stuff like that
It's the most popular browser by user base. It's today's Internet Explorer.
How many Lemmy users are on chrome.
Any admins have stats?
I bet 10 bucks not a single Lemmy user is using chrome.
Unfortunately I am. I really really don't want to be but somehow Firefox has turned into a buggy mess. Maybe it's just me but I have so many issues with it.
Dragging into a browser window doesn't work half the time. Trying to drag a tab nearly always bugs out the window resulting in no mouse clicks for tabs or address bar. Something screws up sometimes causing browser to flip to a random tab every time I switch back to a window, somehow related to pressing CTRL+ something. Sometimes the mouse cursor in a textbox/textarea screws up where it's not positioned where I'm typing, and I've even seen it go backwards while I type.
I have experienced these things often, albeit most of them only after having multiple windows open with many tabs. And they're not isolated to just one installation on one computer.
I'm just baffled how there can be so many consistent issues though. So much so that I can't justify using it over Chromium any longer, even with all of the issues with Chromium.
I've been using Firefox since the beginning, and I'm an adamant supporter of them. I really hope they get these things sorted out.
People who are forced to use it because web developers have abandoned non chrome based browsers in their testing and validation.
The people who are slightly less braindead than edge users lol
Nah. At this point, Edge is actually a technically superior and slightly more trustworthy browser than Chrome.
Deliberately using Chrome rather than Edge is super braindead.
Edge? The browser that stores credentials in the clear? That Edge?
The edge of security!
You think Chrome doesn't?
They don't. This one is on Microsoft.
Heard.
What the hell they're both Chrome!!
Shit take lol, seeing as Edge doesn't install literal malware (yet)
If anything, everyone that's tried to incessantly shove Chrome onto Internet Explorer users for years knowing full well about all its privacy issues owe them all an apology.
Damn, if only someone, anyone, had ever warned against using Chrome.
STOP👏👏USING👏👏CHROMEIUM👏👏BASED👏👏BROWSERS
Screaming that on lemmy is like running into a church and screaming about the "Wiles of satan"
You are literally preaching to the choir
There is degoogled chromium for pcs. I dont mean brave. I mean literally "degoogled chromium"
i use it for when certain web apps refuse to work on firefox or librewolf
What's wrong with chromium based browsers? Just curious. What about Vivaldi?
I love Steam's built in browser(its useful) and Gmod's built in browser though :(
actually lets narrow down the problem with Non-Chromium, Almost all of them arent designed for embedding into apps or isnt ready for production/does not have all web features.
The people willingly using a Google browser get what they get. This is a shining example of personal accountability.
most people are not aware of google’s shenanigans, and even less are aware that there are better alternatives
why not help people discover these alternatives instead of being an asshole?
Most people refuse to use these alternatives. Atleast in my cases.
People use the tools they have to get their tasks done. Not everyone wants to have the same weird hobbies we do.
People think Chrome is «the Internet».
Why the fuck is anyone still using chrome? Or windows for that matter. If it’s a work computer, whatever, I get it, but get that shit off of your personal devices.
Because I'm lazy and sometimes want to play battlefield
Don't get me started on EA 😩 probably the hardest part of not buying EA stuff is missing out on my beloved BF.
Ah well try to enjoy it for the both of us
I'm terrible at it and hate myself for owning it
That’s Battlefield, baby!
Real Battlefield Moment™️ right there yup
This is the reason
To be fair, some sites/things don’t work with Firefox, and keeping up with Chromium derivatives is a difficult task.
Hence most default to Brave. They got the SEO. They got the marketing money and socials hype.
You have to dig deep into the internet to find Helium, Vivaldi, Cromite, Ungoogled Chromium, or whatever the fork de jure is. And that’s if you miss all the scamware.
Never had a website not work on PC Firefox
I know of one shitty ticketmaster-like site that I may unfortunately have to use like once a year.
Some stuff that requires USB shit
Yeah, but I guarantee you, that 99.99% of Chrome users never used that feature. I also keep a spare chromium installation around, which I used one time for the browser based installer of GrapheneOS.
Other than that, I never needed that feature, and I am already a power user.
Sounds like a "them" problem, if it does not work in whatever Firefox fork ill find an alternative website.
In my experience, sites that don't work with Firefox are really rare. Or maybe if it doesn't work with Firefox, I just close the tab and go do something else...
It's your laptop? You need to try not installing chrome on your own devices.
Awe dang. I have a theory that the more we push away their data centers they will recoup it one cpu\gpu at a time at the user-end. This is testing that feasibility.
https://librewolf.net/
Oddly enough, Firefox never clicked for me but librewolf is dope.
The only browser I use for Lemmy
Still got firefox, mainly for making sense of youtube's garbage UI with my tangled cable of extensions whenever I happen to boot that shit up lol
use invidious for youtube
Let's say I tried to show this to my brother in an attempt to make the boy degoogle and he went "Nah, I'm not a gigabite hoarder, they can have the 4 gigas."
Linux+grapheneOS to remove those spywares
Why Linux + graphene instead of Linux + GNU?
Because Java runs everywhere
weights.bin? So, what, Chrome got depressed and ate 40 cakes? That's terrible.
That's as many as four 10s!
They called it weights.bin? That is trojan level of skullduggery.
Reminds me of when my brother was setting up anti-virus for a friend, I don't remember if it was the program or one of the folders to virus.bad
But don't worry, the model isn't used for any browser features users actually use, so it's just Google wasting petabytes of bandwidth to service a fraction of a percent of its userbase.
i never used Chrome(only Chromium) in years, i heard about this and its insane.
If not chrome, what is a good browser to use nowadays? I like Firefox but the last year I keep bumping in to websites that don't work so we'll on Firefox. Mostly web apps. So then what is left?
I stay away from sites and services that don't work well on Firefox. Firefox complies with open web standards, if a site doesn't run well on Firefox it implies that the operator is doing something fucky that you'd probably not be OK with.
This. I've never run into problems on Firefox with even the most sketchy seeming domains.
Even ChatGPT and every anime piracy site I've visited runs fine. What's sketchier than those? lol
You can report sites that are broken on Firefox: https://webcompat.com/issues/new
Firefox has been fine. I've thought about switching to one of the cooler forks but I haven't gotten off my ass yet.
This is your push, DO IT!
Librewolf and Waterfox have been running just fine for me
Do you use either of them on android? The syncing between android and desktop is nice in vanilla Firefox
Waterfox syncs with no issues.
That's the one thing I'm still using stock Firefox with. I have a few hundred if not a thousand tabs open on mobile so haven't felt too strong an urge to switch just yet lol
Ever tried uploading an 8GB file to Copyparty on Firefox for Android? It just hangs (but so does the unofficial app). I needed to ask my sister to use Chrome :(
Just use Zen Browser or LibreWolf and call it a day :D
https://thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/
"tired of Crap? use Shit instead"
Brave is Chrome, stop suggesting that people use Chrome as an alternative to Chrome.
Can those posting here please mention their top alternative browsers for those engaging in this thread?
Waterfox and Librewolf are good alternatives
I know it is somehow the worst thing ever, but Firefox really is ok. Turn off some telemetry and it's not a big deal.
That's kinda the point of waterfox, you just save time fiddling with the telemetry settings every time you install it :P
Helium.
Comes with full (not lite) UBlock, but Chromium based. It’s excellent.
I have been using Zen a different Firefox and it works very well.
Zen is sus
An impostor?
Why?