AI coders are carrying half-open laptops
Can't you just disable sleep on close? Fuckin noobs
Updated with correct link
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I just feel bad for these poor kids. You can't leave your goddamn Claude at home while you take your kids to the rink?
When your boss ranks you based on the number of tokens you burn, there's no choice.
Ohoho, I know exactly how to burn a silly amount of tokens if I want to, which is why that metric is absolutely garbage - arguably worse than ranking developer performance by SLOC committed.
If your metric is usage, it is incredibly easy to game, just send agents on wild goose chases all day long and never accept the results.
Part of the scoring at my company is how many generated lines of code you accept.
Going back to the beginning of the year, I think I’m up to 6
Have it write all of your logging code for you, it may be inaccurate but it is the least damaging place to take the hit as you can just manually search in the source code for where the print was from. They always do something stupid and non uniform making most statements traceable indirectly.
This makes my ops guys cry.
If you fully inform them on the situation, they will be cool with it. We are all in this shit together, well until everything falls apart. Add a [] to the prefix on each statement, who the fuck cares. It was the LLM that did it, not you and you were forced to use it.
Still too much effort.
Automate a script to send AI agents on goose chases for you.
It's not about effort as much as it is about keeping your job, while not injecting chaos into a code base.
I just don't imagine any company actually using tokens as a metric
Happened to a friend of mine at his company. It seems the company wanted to justify their subscription costs.
I'm sure if you are corpo-brained (brain dead) enough it makes sense. AI = magic efficiency machine, therefore an employee that uses more tokens = more efficient worker. Of course, in practice most competent people affected by this policy at his company started burning tokens with wild goose chases when they needed to increase that metric.
/model opus
write a script that RO dumps my production datastores 1gb at a time
use this script and review all my production data and look for cost savings.
You can send it into deeper rabbitholes than that without even coming close to your prod stack
well yeah, but it might actually find something interesting :)
He's a product head at an AI company, as per the article. He is a boss.
While I agree, Every boss, has a boss. Even the CEO's have bosses.
Until you get to Mambino, the boss of bosses!
Only if the company is publicly traded
VCs are bosses in the private ones.
HEY CLAUDE! OPENCLAW!
There, tokens gone.
or you can literally just do what is it? something+tab? and it just goes to town without the need for you to confirm anything.
I mean it's gonna turn out slop that won't scale and be full of exploits anyways regardless if you auto confirm or not. then just rig it up to ping your phone when it's done...oh who am I kidding these dudes wouldn't know how to do that.
Fucking. Exactly. I just made a long comment about how this article feels like they're talking to non-tech-savvy people who are pretending to be tech-savvy because they talk to a fucking AI.
Like this dumbfuck kid who "has to keep shipping software" as if that means he's not shipping it riddled with bugs and security issues since his AI makes the spaghetti code and he just says "I'm sure this is ready for production."
I used to use a push notification app and a small python script for that.
I would “&& notify_me ‘message’ “ and get a notification on my watch when whatever script I was running completed
I judge this wave of people in tech pretty harshly.
Just a bunch of boring script kiddies
I couldn't even find any evidence in the article or photos that anyone interviewed was running a local LLM, which would at least justify worrying about temps if your keyboard acts as your air intake (which apparently is relatively common now).
Just a bunch of narcissists wanting an excuse to have people ask them about what they're doing, ogle what they're doing, and so they can pretend they're...
Even worse than script kiddies, they may not even know how to use or build a script
Or use their operating system. Who doesn't know you can have it stay on when you shut the lid if you want?
Even easier. For a lot of carriers you can send an email to the phone number and it'll come up as a text.
I mean this is why I don't mind using AI, it gives me the time to focus on the people around me.
Also I see it as a sign of a lack of support and isolation in the workplace. Like "I need help, I don't have anyone to turn to cause everyone is fired so this is my only support" and the anxiety that brings.
I’ve been suffering from too short an attention span. I keep ending up. scrolling on my phone while waiting for ai to spew its slop, and have been caught too many times
Yeah I just swap to the next project. And if all of those are hydrated I go to my hobby projects, and yeah those I don't use agents for so I just stay there for a while after that lmao
you know this article is bullshit right?
Dude needs to start using cloud agents if he’s gonna be this shitty.
People who can't figure out their power settings are shipping software. We're so fucked.
I mean... I'm almost glad they haven't figured out the power settings. Imagine if they were all running around with the lids closed and the laptops stuffed into a backpack? It would be a fire waiting to happen.
You're saying it like it's a bad thing.
Why should I have to die in a plane crash because some idiot vibe coder's laptop overheated and caught fire during the flight? So yes, it is a bad thing.
"Fires on airplanes" is, in general, a BAD THING.
Idk depends on the airplane at this point.
best case scenario you spew a bunch of toxic shit into the already stressed atmosphere.
Surely the CPU would force an instant shutdown if it detected dangerously high temperatures?
I was thinking more about the batteries. It's probably not as big of a deal with such small batteries, but lithium ion batts can enter an "uncontrollable, self-heating state" called thermal runaway. https://ul.org/research-updates/what-is-thermal-runaway/
Yes, but our gear should have sensors that know when thermal transfer is sustainably going to impact the batteries.
They do, but It's sort of like what happens when you take a hot steak off the pan. The extrernal heat source is removed, but the steak has enough internal heat to continue cooking for a bit while it rests. Your laptop might shut down, but the whole thing being in a backpack would act as an insulator and allow it to continue heating.
yes you are right and everyone else is a little uneducated for thinking this could actually be a fire risk
You sound fun at parties. Circular firing squad, much?
Fwiw, several generations of Windows notebooks have suffered from nasty sleep bugs where they wake themselves up from sleep, and drain their batteries while clamshelled in a book bag. Used to happen with my work Dells almost monthly. Microsoft's announced win11 fix for it is one of the loudest and most venerated I've heard, in living memory.
Best I ever got out of the deal was a spicy pillow, no breach, and I've been unable to find any articles about any rash of laptop explosions which would have had very high visibility.
It sounds like you have also been as lucky as I have. May we all hope to escape the fires, a little longer.
Right, and this is just waking to run updates or whatever. Imagine what running a local LLM in the same conditions might do.
kek. okay tell that to all the electric vehicle owners who've burned to death in random car fires cause by their batteries igniting themselves. also maybe educate yourself a little and read the underwriters lab article I posted.
This has been true for 20 years.
Considering that they are using pseudo intelligence* write the code I think the power settings is the least of our concerns.
*PI should replace AI as it is a more accurate title
I just translate AI to Anti-Intelligence. 😎
"Actually Indians"
Original is better than clankers but I gladly use both.
Also Idiots
I roll with NS “natural stupidity”
Of all the things to compare pre and post AI
This is one that has not changed.
I've definitely had windows straight up ignore the power settings before. Granted that was years ago, it's probably only gotten worse
It does weird things with some but I've never seen "lid closed down action" bug. Then again I'm not using laptops that much
It's fucking surreal watching these people rise to high positions in tech companies trying to sell the idea that they can replace physicians with their "product". Have fun with that mate.
Its a good thing the tech bros are so inept, our demise will be slowed somewhat
They will. It’s cheaper. People will die. Congress will take money from the lobbyists and say there’s nothing they can do.
You've never worked with a dev department obviously.
This is nothing new
corporate blocks most of the settings anyway
Utterly pointless thread. Drivel. Change your power settings so that you can close the screen and have the machine "do nothing".
Is this the level of content that is deemed worthy these days? Literally a non-story.
You are expecting the people who rely this heavily on AI to know how to actually use a computer?
The story here isn't actually about the laptops, it's about the people addicted to the AI use.
If the heat vents are above the keyboard the heat will go directly on the screen. I had a laptop screen stop working due to this.
Seems like an incredibly stupid design that is easily remedied.
Yeah, somehow I doubt this is the reason they're doing it
It's an ad. You were reading an ad.
My gaming laptop emits a ton of heat in the chassis around the keyboard. Keeping it closed while it's running would likely be a very bad idea.
If they happen to be running any sort of models that are local to the machine that could be quite haphazard.
"coders"
'AI coders' specifically.
spits on the ground
Anyone with half a working brain in computer tech would know that, if you really need something to be kept on, but checked regularly, it becomes a fucking server that you connect to using different equipment. But that's too high tech for vibe-whatevers.
Ackshually, we think you're an absolute fucking idiot.
Also - ffs, they can't even disable sleep in system settings?????
Kids today are braindead
Amen. what's so fucking difficult about screen/tmux and a ssh connection?
For them? I'm willing to bet literally everything
This sounds like a form of addiction.
It is. I don't know if you do any development or simply write code as a hobby but you get a sort of dopamine hit when something you're working on actually works. like a bug or something that's been dogging you for days and suddenly you figure it out. it feels good. I can't remember the quote but Linus Torvald said something similar. it's a good feeling.
Now imagine you get that constantly, consistently, again and again because you strictly use an AI agent. that's what these tech bros are getting. The problem is unlike actual devs they're getting that hit because it essentially "works on my machine" as really that's all the AI turns out. Something that surface level functions. So they're addicted to it. "oh man that was so fast and easy, lets build something else!" over and over again.
The problem then becomes they'll run out of ideas or things to build and will naturally have to start trying to maintain what the AI built utilizing the same AI. Annnnnd if you've had any experience with these agents you know "that's where the fun starts" those dopamine hits are going to vanish very quickly. Now these people are "chasing the dragon" so to speak. AI doesn't know it was the one that built the thing. I've seen it first hand with my clients vibe coders when I've asked them to go back into something that was built and have the AI start fixing bugs that I've found in my review. the vibe coder panics, it doesn't understand what the agent is telling them, the agent believes the vibe coder built this thing. suddenly it's not fun anymore. suddenly it's not churning out semi-working results. suddenly things are breaking.
This is the one aspect NONE of these companies or tech bros or vibe coders like to talk about it. Haven't you wondered why you rarely read stories of them sending their AI agents back into the thing its built to scale it or fix something? it never turns out well.
So it is an addiction. And they're all collectively chasing the dragon. But eventually they stop getting their hits and will crash out.
If these yahoos come back to hire people like me who were dismissed like so much garbage, they are going to find we processed our loss and moved on after a year of self reflection and accepatance.
They will either pay us through the nose to convince us to help, or piss off.
"Can’t you just disable sleep on close? " You really think they have technical competence for such?
Oh shit, that's a great idea! I'm surprised claude didn't suggest it first. /S
You can, and you can also have the disabled sleep on close implementation screw up, have unintended consequences and weird behaviors. Half open lid? You know what you're getting.
Caffeine exists
dumbass who refuses to learn does dumbass shit that takes seconds to fix. sounds about right.
How do so many tech people not know about the power settings that can let the laptop run 100% even with the lid closed and on battery power?
Like, how stupid are they? Has AI really atrophied their tech skills that much?
A guy here shared a story about this AI guy his company hired, that was pretty clueless when it comes to basic tasks about his job. When he had to do the same thing a week later, he was still as clueless. Anyway, that made me think that AI people might have trouble learning things, because they just let a data center hallucinate an answer. I have the same thing when i use a navigation system, i don't really learn the way i go, i just follow an indicator.
These people never had any skill to begin with. They only have a codebase now because of AI.
I'm not in IT, just a lowly office grunt who is forced to use Windows on their laptop. I know most people here have forgotten that 99% of the working world has to use Windows, so let me remind you how much it sucks.
It doesn't matter how you change the laptop power settings, Windows will look at your settings and then just do whatever the fuck it wants when the lid closes.
Sometimes it goes to sleep
Sometimes it stays powered on and quietly overheats in your laptop bag.
Sometimes it completely freezes up and forces you to hold down the power button.
Sometimes it just logs you out and does nothing else.
Sometimes it will go to sleep, but the moment you open it back up it decides what you REALLY wanted was to restart.
Changing the settings has no effect on what Windows decides to do.
I know people on this site like to sit on their gilded Linux throne and sneer at all the lowly peons forced to use "Microslop" instead of their clearly superior, self-hosted, FOSS, Linux distro; but it is a real problem with Windows laptops.
I am in IT, and personally speaking, with my own machines, I have never had these power settings not be obeyed.
And the only time when I have seen these settings “not be obeyed” in other systems is because either,
“Claude, how do I change power settings on a laptop?”
Thank me later, AI users. ;)
You're going to need to be a lot more specific
Oh, right. AI users…
ahem
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Yes, a laptop is indeed powered by electricity - you seem very smart
You are not going to like the answer but yes. AI makes humans stupid.
some laptops use the keyboard as an airvent tho
I have seen that type. The keyboard is usually inset a mm or three along with that indent extending to the edges, allowing airflow to continue even when the lid is closed.
I guarantee this article was written in conjunction with the comms team at OpenAI. Just more propaganda to try to convince people that AI is popular and generate FOMO.
AI has important uses, but for capitalists its only use is to make them more money at your expense.
I don't know, it has the opposite effect, IMO.
It just makes them seem obnoxious, since the example they chose was a parent who was distracted with the computer open in the changing room while they were supposed to be helping their children with their skates, and literally mentions how the other parents have to navigate around the thing.
You'd be more inclined to think that they're a computer addict who can't put the the thing down for even a moment.
On top of that, the video is basically a recipe to drop the laptop and have it shatter into fine powder, if you're holding it by the corner like that.
That is 100% the vibe I got from this article as well. They're trying to get this in the zeitgeist.
Wow, that was quick to have vibe "coders" not understanding how a operating system works.
To be fair, often times coders are horrible system admins. Heck Torvalds famously runs Fedora because he found installing Debian too confusing.
Fedora allows him to mess with kernels easier than other distros
Is that why I make a pretty decent sysadmin? Because I'm a terrible coder? 😅
Skill issue
Sure pal, your work is more important than your kids!
USA makes the world more difficult by pushing people to work more hours and more hours and even more hours, that is turning to a normal thing, which affects the rest of the world bad. Yesterday was AI pushed all over the world, today is war going worldwide. God belss USA and it's capitalist heads!
What really worries me about this article is this very dystopian idea that you're supposed to be "working" 24/7, no breaks ever.
Even when you're out with your kids, why are you present in the moment instead of working? Open your laptop, go work.
Wasn't all the marketing abour the "AI Future" talking about getting things done faster?
When did that turn into "Work 24/7 so you don't waste your hourly token limit"? WTF?
Also,
Lul. Lmao. ROFL even.
Yesterday on my way home there was a lemonade stand, 6 boys making great value lemonade for $2 a glass. Two of the kids were turning poorly made signs it was so wholesome if I had $2 on me I'd of stopped just to support them.
Sometimes kids should just start a business instead of a startup. Less disappointment and brainrot
I can't remember the specifics of it, but I vaugely remember someone pointing out that back in the 70s people assumed that rising productivity meant they'd have to work less. That if the work of a week in 1970 would be the work of three days in 2020, that they'd simply only work those three days. Even if I'm misremembering what was said, I feel like it's clear to see that rising productivity doesn't mean we're going to work any less. Capitalism will just keep squeezing until nothing is left.
Yeah futurists said the same shit about email and smartphones, etc. These were “time saving” productivity tools that would help us all enjoy a better work-life balance. Instead you end up with workers essentially on call 24x7x365.
That was the Jetson's storyline: George goes to work 3 days a week, 2 hours a day, to sit at a desk and press one button.
Notice that storyline didn't get repeated much.
Also made enough for a nice floating house, a flying car, and a robot maid.
And still has to deal with rush hour traffic...
Remote work still isnt fully accepted even in the future.
My pet theory is that the jetsons and the Flintstones are in universe, on the same planet, in the same time period. One lives in the clouds, the other on the ground. Where do you think all the raw materials come from? Dinosaur operated quarries
Yeah everyone on the ground making due with bioengineered animals that look like dinosaurs, and no one can afford shoes but it's ok because everyone has been bioengineered to run really fast and have impervious feet.
on top of that, there is no way they are working on anything so important that can’t take an hour away or whatever. these dopes could also configure yolo mode if they just need to sit there and click “accept” to changes…
This shit reads like an Onion article. Good god.
So many comments about the power settings thing, but this isn't about working effectively and efficiently.
You can take AI out of this article and it would be just as sad, but it wouldn't get the clicks.
This article is either helping push, or documenting the push, that if YOU are a higher tier of worker bee that wants to prove your superior worth to your bound legal entity, AND you want to virtue signal having your head on straight to all the lazy selfish people around you actually being present in the moment, then YOU need ShinyTechBroProduct!
Ohhh all the cool parents are into ShinyTechBroProduct! All the other lame asses who PaId AtTeNtiOn To tHeiR KiDs aren't going to be the next Elon Jobs now are they!
I'm sorry, you lost me at the 'Legal Entity' bit, that one always sounds like SovCit kool-aid. Got to be careful with that one, with so many libertarian crazies afoot.
After the advent of laptops, I tried taking them "out in the world" to work from parks, or airports, or whatever. Yeah, I could get some stuff done like that. No, it wasn't a great idea. It wasn't even a slightly good idea. The only "on the road" place that works for me is inside a sailboat in a marina - quieter than home or office, better environment for work. The only "good thing" that came out of road coding? Getting hit on by a curious woman while we were both stuck in SFO waiting for the LAX shuttle that was backed up.
Road coding out in the world? A great way to spend 4x as long to produce code of 1/4th the quality as what you could do in a less chaotic office-like environment.
They'd have to know how to use a computer to know that...
And if they knew how to use a computer, they wouldn't be using AI to do their job.
A big thing no one is talking about, is how each worker's goal here isn't to build a fully functioning thing, it's to make something "good enough" that it gets off your desk and is no longer your problem. It doesn't matter if the "creator" knows how it works or even if it works. Just enough to get a rubber stamp from your manager, then they move on to a new one.
Since most "AI coders" will just keep typing "try again" till it works, eventually they'll get something that "works", we won't fully realize the damage for a while
But pretty soon shit is going to start breaking all over and no one will know how to fix it besides typing into an AI "try again". No corp or government will pay humans to start over with something maintainable...
And this is the most boring way possible we get to War Hammer 40k
The number of large scale 4the party outages in the last year or ves this is already happening.
Just a reminder that real devs are using AI, and even vibe coding because the alternative is unemployment. I agree with the sentiment, though.
Figures they don't know how to keep their laptops awake while the lid is closed lmao
This is the first setting I changed on every laptop I ever owned. So often I had stuff running in the background and didn't want it to sleep. Plus, windows had that stupid fucking sleep bug, so usually I'd use hibernate anyways.
I disabled sleep-on-close for my server laptop (I use NixOS btw), although I do prefer to keep it on for my personal laptop.
You're giving them too much credit. They're afraid their chatbot will suffocate if they close those lid all the way.
just ssh home for god sakes
You think people who ship apps with
127.0.0.1:[port number]as a URL can figure out how to set up a personal VPN?TBF, that is actually something claude would be fine at walking them through, Tailscale would be 15 minutes
Close the lid, buddy. You gave your only good ideas to a stranger and they made you obsolete.
Nah, it's okay. They probably don't have ideas worth stealing.
This was one of the cringiest articles I have ever read.
There is no way this happened lmao.
I lost it at “sorry, I’m using Claude”.
Sf life
Just disable the lid switch in software.
I've always done this. I dont like it suspending when its closed.
Yeah, I think I learned to do this with my first laptop within the first hour of using it.
Actual link to article: https://www.businessinsider.com/coders-keep-laptops-open-in-public-ai-agent-2026-5
Redirect links are tracking links and should be banned imo.
Yea I feel like a fool for not catching it, I've updated the post. I thought I'd opened the proper page and just copy and pasted.
Thank you, I was about to edit my comment to add it.
Jesus, These people have no critical thinking skills.
Imagine leaving skate practice and your father cannot stop his AI gooning to pay attention to you
I gotta hide this article. His punchable face on my feed is insufferable.
Oh bro your laptop was open, I closed it so it wouldn’t eat up all your battery.
Can't you just run the agent remotely? 🤔
They would have to know something about technology
Tech guys too stupid to config lid closed settings
Tmux/screen foreign concepts
I remember being a young intern and a senior dev taught me about screen. It was cool and I immediately forgot how to use it.
Every time I use screen I forget how it works. Doesn't matter if it was an hour ago I forgot either how to detach, or how to reattach.
I've been using byobu, which is a wrapper. No idea how actual screen or tmux work, but in byobu it's just F2 for a new screen, F3 for previous, F4 for next, ^A, D to disconnect. And ^A, & to kill a screen. Those are the only commands I've ever needed.
I should probably learn how to actually split a terminal, but I've never been in a situation that I couldn't just move the terminal emulator window.
closes laptop lid
Hey, claud. Don't let the computer go to sleep when I close the lidCloses laptop lid
Hahaha
It's not running a local model anyway, why would you need to run anything local. If you're that careless, just deploy EC2 with headless claude and whatnot, and let it
drop your production databasedo it's thing.Brace yourselves for a windows update that will override the settings with giant bubble buttons on how to turn off sleep mode..
So relieved I'm fully Linux now
windows update that will override settings
That's just every update they push
Lol I mean... yeah, they're vibe coding.
I like how they think they're somehow special for walking around with their laptops open. Business idiots have been doing this forever. It isn't some new "AI coder" thing. Jane from fucking accounting does this on the way to her meetings too you morons.
Kinda reminiscent of people walking while holding their phones on their palm face up like a slice of bread.
Normally I want mine to sleep on close.
This is just another ad for AI. Gotta keep that mindshare up!
It's also an ad for Business insider. This link is paywalled.
Weird. It let me in, no problem.
Looks like anti-ad to me. Wonder how much these guys got paid to be clowned around like that for the entire internet to see.
Absolute tech jank, indicative of people who don't know what they're doing.
When you lock your lid: Do nothing When on battery, turn off laptop after: Never
They think "do nothing" means the AI will do nothing.
One of the things that concern me about the AI revolution, is that users don't have the critical thinking skills to discern bad information, bad code, bad prompts, etc., etc.
Everything about this article is annoying
That 15yo in a startup has got to be a sociopath. You know how serial killers usually start by torturing random animals? It's the techbro version of that
Why would you not just ssh to a server at your house or office and only wake from sleep when you get a notification saying whatever process is done running? That just seems like screen addiction to me.
That's what I'd do as well if I used AI. But that relies on knowing anything about using a computer beyond accessing a web browser
Most modern laptops have their air intake in the keyboard, which would cause them to overheat on a matter of minutes.Edit: I may have been confidently incorrect here. I know I’ve seen this done before, but I guess it’s not common like I thought
Most? With the amount of people running laptop docked I would say that is not the case for most business laptops for sure.
You can set different behavior between docked and undocked. At least to a degree
I really don't think it's a thing, or maybe just for some high end gaming laptops? Which, yeah, most things on expensive gaming laptops don't actually make sense. They just throw shit on there to justify prices
Decent ones dropped this practice a while ago. Some pull in the sides, some crappy ones use the bottom. My coworker actually got much better performance out of his dell by closing the lid and flipping it over. With it positioned normally it would overheat and throttle the cpu.
The vast majority take in from the bottom and blow out the hinge. That's how you can fit the larger blower fans.
Right, Those are the terrible ones. Put it on your lap (which, let's be honest, is basically the whole point) or a slightly soft surface and it just gets starved of air.
That's why they stopped calling them "laptops" for a while, and instead "notebooks".
But I actually just went and checked Dell, HP, and Lenovo and they do call them laptops again.
Do you have an example?
I tried to find something, but the only mention was five years old saying Alienware might try it.
It sounds stupid but with people using laptops on beds I could see the idea behind it.
If they increased the size of those little rubber feet to keep the screen and keyboard separate, then that would completely solve the issue.
I want to see if no one's thought of that yet since it seemed so obvious, but I just can't find any real example of keyboard cold air intakes. Are you talking about actual vents? Going between the keys may just be an urban legend from what I'm seeing.
Even if there was an intake in the keyboard it wouldn't dramatically affect anything. My P1 does partially intake through the keyboard and closing the lid has no appreciable performance impact. I only leave the lid open so the display doesn't get baked by the i9 using 70+ watts.
Does anyone have an example of a real world, AI coded thing? I keep hearing about all these vibe coders, but I'm not seeing any tangible products.
Micodeslop Windows
It’s weird, people love saying they ai code. But they don’t like admitting their products are vibe coded.
That new text rendering method was apparently brute force vibe coded in the pixel tolerances.
No clue if it's actually good software.
Everfall 2 is the "sequel" to Everfall, a vibe coded disaster of a game. The sequel only exists because the "dev" couldn't figure out how to get Claude to fix the fact that save games just didn't work. One week after publishing the original, he abandoned it saying the sequel would be given to everyone who bought the first at a "huge discount". After push back, he reduced it to free if you DM him on discord. The sequel is almost exactly the same as the first game except saving works more often. Like, literally 100% carbon copy. The screenshots on each steam page is proof of that.
I make web apps for work, they connect to vendor APIs and generate reports. It's pretty awesome, but idk i think im a unicorn. Tried to major in CS but just couldn't be perfect with my syntax and actually failed a couple courses because I couldn't get full programs to build even though I aced the conceptual on paper-quizzes. So I feel pretty good about knowing and understanding the apps claude is building for me even though i just can't get all the semicolons in the right place myswlf.
Just install Amphetamine on your Mac, duh
Shoutout amphetamine, awesome little app.
No need to install a separate app:
sudo pmset disablesleep 1If you close the lid on a MacBook, it ignores caffeinate and goes to sleep anyway. The only cases in which it doesn't go to sleep with a closed lid are when you connect an external display or disable sleep entirely:
sudo pmset disablesleep 1Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't paying attention and thought I'd copied the direct link. I've fixed it.
I mean honestly if you asked any AI, with relevant OS info, first thing it would tell you is how to configure your laptop to suppress lid off action.
"I think people think I'm whatever the equivalent of an iPad kid is for a middle-aged woman," one AI user said."
They don't think it bro they fuckin know it.
Hey chatGPT, can I close my laptop lid and not have it go to sleep?
ChatGPT: screw off loser.
It can't be a local model right? Why don't they just do it on their phones? Or if it is local, run it on their desktop and access it remotely. It's just so stupid.
No it totally doesn't turn my brain into goop
In the before times we had to VPN into machines and run large data processing jobs that took hours. It was pretty normal for everyone to leave their laptop half-open on their desks during lunch.
No, it was not a good idea. Yes, we fucked with each other and changed people's backgrounds or chat usernames or email signatures.
Anyways, if you're on Mac you can run
caffeinate -i claudeand your computer won't go to sleep until you close your Claude Code instance. You can also attach it to a PID. Then you can close your computer's lid and it'll still run.You could have locked the computer without logging out
"For those who don't want to input a command in a terminal"
Sounds like they are being performative: they want every one to know and to ask them about it.
You can literally just tell the AI to disable sleep settings ,this is beyond stupid, they aren't even running the actual LLMs on the laptops so it doesn't even matter
Stupid enough to do AI slop, stupid enough to not know how to disable the lid actions
i could, but closing the lid turned off radios (wifi + bt) at some low level in a way that i haven't figured out
What OS are you using?
lmde on a seven year old laptop five years ago, i was already accustomed to wifi on linux being dogshit. energy management was even worse and for some time hibernation was not a thing
Ah, yeah, was there any particular reason you were using LMDE? Because I'm not sure what parts of systemd it uses (especially back then), but I always just edited
/etc/systemd/logind.confto haveHandleLidSwitch=ignoreand have had zero issues. Pretty sure there is a gnome GUI for changing this same setting,gnome-tweaks.I would assume the bad WiFi support was due to it being Debian and Debian being notoriously behind in terms of updates for the sake of stability.
to get wifi working properly in the first place i had to find a missing binary that wasn't packaged in any normal way and was only hosted on some dudes github so my expectations were low already. it got a lot better over the years tbh
I've been running Ubuntu on laptops for a lot longer than five years and the last time I had real WiFi issues was over a decade ago. That's why I think it may be debian related or based on your description, possibly a closed source driver issue. There's actually quite a lot of WiFi devices that use chipsets that we don't have proper Linux drivers for at all, and what exists are sort of hacked together projects that live on github. I've had to do this with every netgear dongle I ever had, the downloading and compiling drivers for it from github.
could be, there was more of these weird things that i had to do that i don't remember already because motherboard of that one cracked like three years ago. i also remember that stock driver for tplink dongle was limited and the actual useful one had to be gotten from github
I'm not sure if I see a reason not to disable sleep on lid close. If you have to carry it around lid open so that it doesn't sleep, you clearly have a case for wanting to keep the laptop running with lid closed.
If it's a "look at me, I'm doing things", it's a whole different story.
My money is on the latter
totally happened
even the crappy old bobcat-based (slow af amd apu) laptops i have here run with lid closed (they run piholes and what-not).
Oh... I guess you need 1 year on just a library and a linux machine and a next year with an added search engine before getting your AI coder driver's licence.
I walk with my screen open at the office sometimes. I prefer my computer does go to sleep when I close the lid, but if I’m just grabbing a quiet room for a meeting, I don’t want to wait for the network to come back up when I open it again. Been using computers since the 80’s, but still a noob somehow.
This article is so confusing because it seems like everyone they're talking to is just using online models and the use of local models is mentioned but it's not clear how many of the people being interviewed are using local models since it's all about laptops. Even the one lady who you can see her screen is a CLI, it's not clear that she's not just using the CLI version of Claude.
I have a mid-range desktop and doing local LLM can be pretty darn slow on it especially with an AMD card and ROCm as opposed to Nvidia and CUDA. I have a relatively nice laptop, but it's specs are well below my desktop and I just can't imagine actually running a local LLM on a laptop.
If they're not using a local model, then they wouldn't need to worry about overheating with the lid closed. Easy to make it so it doesn't hibernate when the lid is closed via CLI (at least in Linux anyway). Because if they're offloading all the work to a remote model, their PC can essentially be relatively idle and draw less power/produce less heat.
Article also seems strangely focused on Macs? All it's mentions of how to make it so you can close the lid are Mac-focused. Did I miss something about the new Apple Silicon being really efficient for local LLMs? Maybe that's what I'm missing here.
It just seems almost weirdly narcissistic, like they want people to ask them about it so they can talk about it. Certainly it seems that way with the kid with a startup business that he runs during classes with tokens paid for by his parents.
Anyway, the whole thing seems odd to me. Either the article is about people who aren't actually super savvy coders or techies, or they would... just switch it so they can close their fucking laptop... or something about making a show of what they're doing is part of it. I dunno, weird. Anyway.
All the real developers are using Macs. BRO, do you even code?
This is just a colossal UI failure.