Yeah, but remember, their taxes are so low that businesses can afford to pay their employees so much that most Anericans are actually incredibly wealthy. Just go out on the street and ask any American.
...not that guy... not that guy either... or that guy.... that guy doesn't count... no not that guy either...
Brazil, mostra of people have be exposed to u.s. propaganda since the childhood, I myself was a bit like that until i start the law school.
Academic knowledge and meeting a lot of people from out of my circles really expanded my horizons and my POVs on the world, i'm really greatful for this
Thank you for sharing. Always disappointing to see how we've managed to not only make our country worse, but somehow persuade other people into wanting to make their countries worse.
Our economic policy is ruining us and I hope all other countries can at least learn from our bad example. You don't want what we have, I promise.
Good luck in law school or as a lawyer. The world needs more good people in law and politics.
I know people in Australia and New Zealand who think America is great, because they think they'd be allowed to shoot people whenever they feel like it, and they're inevitably racist as fuck
Yeah, but remember, their taxes are so low that businesses can afford to pay their employees so much that most Anericans are actually incredibly wealthy.
That's the theory for "trickle down" economics, but in reality it's piss trickling down.
What about raising the tax so that increased pay for the employees increases the amount of deductibles for the company which in turn reduces the actual tax they have to pay?
Has that ever been tried before?
Maybe some decades ago?
...before Reagan?
I mean, you're kind of arguing how great the USA is. You put it on a pedestal as a beacon of perfection. Yeah it doesn't have free healthcare, you're absolutely right, I'm not sure what you're point is? There are a lot of things wrong with the USA, it's a huge country with quite a bit more diversity then other first world countries.
Point being, why do you hold the USA to such high standards? If you think most Americans feel the US is "the best" you're sorley mistaken.
You're not sure what my point is? My point is that for most Americans they pay more and get less.
30% of American workers earn less than $12 and hour. Compare that to only 9% of Canadians working their minimum wage of ~$12.60 USD.
So a third of Americans are earning less than the absolute minimum earnings of a Canadian, and from that they are paying a comparable federal tax rate, but have to pay for health insurance and out of pocket copay to even see a doctor.
That's just the people up to the threshold of the minimum Canadians make. Nearly half of US workers earn less than $15/ hour, so not much more. Less than 20% of Canadians make that little.
Most Americans are paid less, pay the same taxes, get no healthcare in return, but have to pay for private insurance AND still have to pay out of pocket for any medical visit.
Theres this hilarious "mr show" sketch where the evil dr x does a phone drive every year to raise enough money for himto not blow the world up with his doomsday lazer.
that's the beauty of "feelgood story" over real help: It doesn't have to be real, it makes people feel good for a bit and then is forgotten, if the people it's about die horribly 2 days later that is irrelevant.
I work for a nonprofit hospital, and and have full medical insurance through them. I had injured my knees recently so I went to a PCP to get the ball rolling. These are the steps insurance requires before they'll even consider the next step, let alone getting to actual surgery...
Go to PCP so they could write me a referral to an Ortho doc
Go to Ortho doc, who writes me an order for an XRay
Get X-Ray, they don't find anything but this gets me a referral to PT. (I got a call from a local PT group, who later said that my insurance doesn't cover them, but if I wanted to pay out of pocket it'd be about $250 for a group of 5 sessions. I thought I'd be better off going through work.)
I get scheduled for a few PT visits and my Health System Rehab facility. It was most conducted by Kins students. I did the exercises with the bands, no improvement with my knees whatsoever and even when doing the stair exercises and hurting my knee in the process they had zero clue what it could be. I increased range of motion with my leg but that's it. Cancel further visits.
Go back to my PCP, orders an MRI. According to it, everything is intact but the injury could have stressed things. Still can't tell exactly what's wrong.
End up getting a steroid shot in both knees, which helped for about 3 months.
All those completely wiped out 2 years worth of FSA, and the only way I didn't get slammed with a couple thousand dollars out of pocket is I still have an HSA from a previous job. Also found out it was more expensive for insurance to pay the rehab clinic that I work for than it would have been to pay out of pocket at a local place
Welcome to American Healthcare. Where the people who voted themselves to get top notch, taxpayer funded, lifetime healthcare for them and their families, then vote themselves to not having to pay taxes again...that also say govt funded healthcare is sOcIaLiSm
Sounds about right. Think how many trained medical professionals who should be tending to patients had to spend time tending to private insurance for just this one case. Now multiply it by every single case, some more than others. We talk about a medical professional shortage in the USA when simply freeing them from insurance timesinks would be an immediate, huge jump in available work hours and morale.
Lol at the $35,000. My brother's cancer drug (which is luckily funded by his insurance at the moment -- the same insurance company that balked at paying for an MRI of his brain while he had a six-week long migraine and was unable to walk) costs $40,000 a month.
The USA needs to fix their shitty healthcare system, infrastructure, labor laws, education, income distribution and infrastructure. However, their a countries that are shittier than the USA, even with the MAGA fucks swinging their wrecking ball.
I mean it's either healthcare or don't close and reopen random straits. Clearly the voters' representatives have spoken and the people prefer the second one
Boeing charges the Pentagon 3750$ for 15$ ball bearings. Grandmas got to die to pay out the socialized private profits for the military industrial complex.
You need a source for the fact that a euro spent on American weapons is a euro you can no longer spend on reversing the dismantling of socialized health care that has been going on since the 80s in pretty much every single EU country? Do you need a source for object permanence too?
Good news, socialized healthcare is cheaper than non-socialized healthcare.
Several EU governments spend LESS money (as a percentage of GDP) on healthcare than the US does, while having universal healthcare. That's quite literally not counting the part that Americans pay out of pocket or for their private insurance, just what the US government pays for the few programs it does have (Medicare, Medicaid, veterans, etc). Add in everything the American citizens themselves pay and not a single country spends as much.
In the Baltics we've been consistently hitting 3-4% in recent years despite the target being 2% (which most countries are barely hitting). We have socialized healthcare. Poland is now leading the pack around 4.5%, they still have socialized healthcare.
Russia's waging a literal war, has military spending over 6% of GDP and still has universal healthcare.
The US itself could easily afford universal healthcare. Insurance companies, hospitals and even many doctors don't want it because they'd all make less money.
So again, source that socialized healthcare will be dismantled because of a slight increase in military spending?
The real danger to social systems in the developed world is the aging population resulting in the tax base shrinking.
oh and get this, EU/Uk also have private healthcare if patients see wait times are too long, USA only, through propaganda only see this as black and white, they dont think you can have universal/low pay, free healthcare and private healthcare at the same time. dental care is different though, it mostly out of pocket for most people.
Yup. I've only ever needed this to see a psychiatrist about my ADHD personally. It's expensive (still much cheaper than the US), but you get an appointment in a week or 2.
And the drugs they prescribe are still covered by the national healthcare system so once the treatment plan is in place, you visit the expensive doctor once or twice a year and get prescription refills through your GP (no need for a visit and the visit is free anyway), doesn't end up costing too much in the long run.
Yeah, but remember, their taxes are so low that businesses can afford to pay their employees so much that most Anericans are actually incredibly wealthy. Just go out on the street and ask any American.
...not that guy... not that guy either... or that guy.... that guy doesn't count... no not that guy either...
Unironic all my friends with their washed brains argument in favor of united states...
"but they got even more money than us working on mcdonalds duh"
If you don't mind me asking, which country?
Brazil, mostra of people have be exposed to u.s. propaganda since the childhood, I myself was a bit like that until i start the law school.
Academic knowledge and meeting a lot of people from out of my circles really expanded my horizons and my POVs on the world, i'm really greatful for this
Thank you for sharing. Always disappointing to see how we've managed to not only make our country worse, but somehow persuade other people into wanting to make their countries worse.
Our economic policy is ruining us and I hope all other countries can at least learn from our bad example. You don't want what we have, I promise.
Good luck in law school or as a lawyer. The world needs more good people in law and politics.
The US propaganda reaches far
I know people in Australia and New Zealand who think America is great, because they think they'd be allowed to shoot people whenever they feel like it, and they're inevitably racist as fuck
Feel free to pick any I think. That is something I have heard in Sweden from idiots.
Some of us Americans wish we were more like Sweden lol
That's the theory for "trickle down" economics, but in reality it's piss trickling down.
Nonsense, there's shit mixed in as well.
What about raising the tax so that increased pay for the employees increases the amount of deductibles for the company which in turn reduces the actual tax they have to pay?
Has that ever been tried before?
Maybe some decades ago?
...before Reagan?
Sounds communist to me
/s
They dont want lower taxes. They want record profits and no taxes.
They want the power to do whatever they will while enjoying the protections of the publicly funded state against anyone who might try to stop them.
And for the most part they get it. But their power isn't total yet. We still have a window of possibility.
Good luck trying to explain that to a conservative
Nah, I'd rather explain it to a brick wall, which is less stubborn and won't shoot me, because I challenge some beliefs.
I blame the asker for asking wrong.
I mean, you're kind of arguing how great the USA is. You put it on a pedestal as a beacon of perfection. Yeah it doesn't have free healthcare, you're absolutely right, I'm not sure what you're point is? There are a lot of things wrong with the USA, it's a huge country with quite a bit more diversity then other first world countries.
Point being, why do you hold the USA to such high standards? If you think most Americans feel the US is "the best" you're sorley mistaken.
You're not sure what my point is? My point is that for most Americans they pay more and get less.
30% of American workers earn less than $12 and hour. Compare that to only 9% of Canadians working their minimum wage of ~$12.60 USD.
So a third of Americans are earning less than the absolute minimum earnings of a Canadian, and from that they are paying a comparable federal tax rate, but have to pay for health insurance and out of pocket copay to even see a doctor.
That's just the people up to the threshold of the minimum Canadians make. Nearly half of US workers earn less than $15/ hour, so not much more. Less than 20% of Canadians make that little.
Most Americans are paid less, pay the same taxes, get no healthcare in return, but have to pay for private insurance AND still have to pay out of pocket for any medical visit.
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This exact post is in there already from 4 months ago.
And I will continue to upvote it.
That is one hell of a name lol
If you haven't seen it, the name is from this meme
Theres this hilarious "mr show" sketch where the evil dr x does a phone drive every year to raise enough money for himto not blow the world up with his doomsday lazer.
https://youtu.be/ZyOZGyYVck8
This is fantastic.
Congratulations, you're part of the 10,000 today. Have a wonderful day.
........well I certainly didn't know THAT community existed!
Very american to have a feelgood story for the viewers instead of healthcare for everyone.
These kinds of stories don't make me feel good at all. It's so fucking depressing. It's only "feel good" to USAians.
What feelgood story? $35k isn't even enough for one month of treatment.
that's the beauty of "feelgood story" over real help: It doesn't have to be real, it makes people feel good for a bit and then is forgotten, if the people it's about die horribly 2 days later that is irrelevant.
failed state
Breaking Bad is a single episode in any other country.
See how it would rob us of entertainment?
America Social Healthcare.. That and GoFundMe
OnlyFans also
The desperation makes it sexier
OnlyFans isn't charity.
True but, like the Minecraft granny, people are having to hustle to pay medical bills.
I work for a nonprofit hospital, and and have full medical insurance through them. I had injured my knees recently so I went to a PCP to get the ball rolling. These are the steps insurance requires before they'll even consider the next step, let alone getting to actual surgery...
Go to PCP so they could write me a referral to an Ortho doc
Go to Ortho doc, who writes me an order for an XRay
Get X-Ray, they don't find anything but this gets me a referral to PT. (I got a call from a local PT group, who later said that my insurance doesn't cover them, but if I wanted to pay out of pocket it'd be about $250 for a group of 5 sessions. I thought I'd be better off going through work.)
I get scheduled for a few PT visits and my Health System Rehab facility. It was most conducted by Kins students. I did the exercises with the bands, no improvement with my knees whatsoever and even when doing the stair exercises and hurting my knee in the process they had zero clue what it could be. I increased range of motion with my leg but that's it. Cancel further visits.
Go back to my PCP, orders an MRI. According to it, everything is intact but the injury could have stressed things. Still can't tell exactly what's wrong.
End up getting a steroid shot in both knees, which helped for about 3 months.
All those completely wiped out 2 years worth of FSA, and the only way I didn't get slammed with a couple thousand dollars out of pocket is I still have an HSA from a previous job. Also found out it was more expensive for insurance to pay the rehab clinic that I work for than it would have been to pay out of pocket at a local place
Welcome to American Healthcare. Where the people who voted themselves to get top notch, taxpayer funded, lifetime healthcare for them and their families, then vote themselves to not having to pay taxes again...that also say govt funded healthcare is sOcIaLiSm
Sounds about right. Think how many trained medical professionals who should be tending to patients had to spend time tending to private insurance for just this one case. Now multiply it by every single case, some more than others. We talk about a medical professional shortage in the USA when simply freeing them from insurance timesinks would be an immediate, huge jump in available work hours and morale.
+1...and starting fucked up wars takes priority over the broken US healthcare system.
Awww, that's cute
There's the American hopeful story.
Lol at the $35,000. My brother's cancer drug (which is luckily funded by his insurance at the moment -- the same insurance company that balked at paying for an MRI of his brain while he had a six-week long migraine and was unable to walk) costs $40,000 a month.
I am so done with all the orphan grinding stories filling communities like "wholesome something" or "made me smile whatever".
I fucking hate it here.
Also, in other countries they can just retire
Healthcare is number one cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA. That is f'ed up!
USA = United Shitholes of America
The USA needs to fix their shitty healthcare system, infrastructure, labor laws, education, income distribution and infrastructure. However, their a countries that are shittier than the USA, even with the MAGA fucks swinging their wrecking ball.
That's not much of a brag is it?
It can always be worse. That doesn't make something good.
Seriously, "their a [sic] countries that are shittier than the USA," is a stupid argument when it's from the wealthiest country on Earth.
I mean it's either healthcare or don't close and reopen random straits. Clearly the voters' representatives have spoken and the people prefer the second one
Boeing charges the Pentagon 3750$ for 15$ ball bearings. Grandmas got to die to pay out the socialized private profits for the military industrial complex.
I do like watching GrammaCrackers, though.
Correction in literally all other countries.
Just about.
Why are Americans not going abroad for medical care?
Not for long! Gotta hit that 5% that NATO asked for!
You need a source for the fact that a euro spent on American weapons is a euro you can no longer spend on reversing the dismantling of socialized health care that has been going on since the 80s in pretty much every single EU country? Do you need a source for object permanence too?
Good news, socialized healthcare is cheaper than non-socialized healthcare.
Several EU governments spend LESS money (as a percentage of GDP) on healthcare than the US does, while having universal healthcare. That's quite literally not counting the part that Americans pay out of pocket or for their private insurance, just what the US government pays for the few programs it does have (Medicare, Medicaid, veterans, etc). Add in everything the American citizens themselves pay and not a single country spends as much.
In the Baltics we've been consistently hitting 3-4% in recent years despite the target being 2% (which most countries are barely hitting). We have socialized healthcare. Poland is now leading the pack around 4.5%, they still have socialized healthcare.
Russia's waging a literal war, has military spending over 6% of GDP and still has universal healthcare.
The US itself could easily afford universal healthcare. Insurance companies, hospitals and even many doctors don't want it because they'd all make less money.
So again, source that socialized healthcare will be dismantled because of a slight increase in military spending?
The real danger to social systems in the developed world is the aging population resulting in the tax base shrinking.
oh and get this, EU/Uk also have private healthcare if patients see wait times are too long, USA only, through propaganda only see this as black and white, they dont think you can have universal/low pay, free healthcare and private healthcare at the same time. dental care is different though, it mostly out of pocket for most people.
Yup. I've only ever needed this to see a psychiatrist about my ADHD personally. It's expensive (still much cheaper than the US), but you get an appointment in a week or 2.
And the drugs they prescribe are still covered by the national healthcare system so once the treatment plan is in place, you visit the expensive doctor once or twice a year and get prescription refills through your GP (no need for a visit and the visit is free anyway), doesn't end up costing too much in the long run.
The point isn't the cost tho, it's the wealth transfer
Yeah, about that...
Maybe NATO should do Minecraft livestreams?