Trump has a better understanding of the Bible than Pope Leo, says conservative Christian pastor
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/46667720
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-robert-jeffress-bible-pope-b2973812.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.dbzer0.com538
Comments85
That fat child raping cunt doesn't understand not to shit itself on camera at the Whitehouse.
Fuck off, Pastor Shitface. Fuck off and die.
In the words of Mr. Hat: "you can go to hell! You can go to hell and you can die!"
The cult must cult.
No. It's just non believers being cynical and power hungry as usual. If you believe in god, hell is waiting for them. That's literally the ONLY thing that keeps me having any kind of faith these days.
I think he means maga cult?
Cultists believe their shit. These grifters are pure evil leeches.
One variation of the definition goes:
"In a cult, the guy at the top knows it's a con. In a religion that guy is dead."
Oof, I take it you've never really done an educated deep dive into the Bible then. Both Old and New Testaments demonstrate a very imoral monster at the helm who promotes injustice left and right. If anything, Trump isn't far off with his horrible treatment of women and minorities.
I think what people end up doing is just assuming "chistian" is a synonym for "good" when the foundation of the religion is many of the evils we got rid of in the last hundred years.
Sure. Leo thinks it's a guide for morals and good living. Trump understands it's a grift to let old warmongering men stay in charge.
Are you sure? Sometimes I think Trump goes in and out of lucidity these days.his word salads have been getting worse.
If there's one thing that man will go to his grave knowing, it's how to work a scam. He may not be able to execute it, but he'll recognize it long after he stops being able to recognize animals or draw a clock..
When the fuck did the leader of the largest pedophile sheltering organization become the good guy?
Institutional evil vs. personal evil. Neither one is a good guy, but at least we can avoid Catholics.
It took me way too long to figure out you meant the pope.
Well there's your problem. These guys know as much about the Bible as Trump.
They also know as much about grifting.
Once you put “mega” in there, is there such a thing as a legitimate “pastor/priest”?
LOL
Nothing farther from faith than such people
Supply-side Jesus worshipper.
As I suspected, conservative Christians in the US are not real Christians, but rather “money for faith” type people. Their supreme authority is money. Nothing to do with christianity or Jesus or faith.
Trust me, a lot of these conservative Christians absolutely do believe in Jesus and absolutely do believe in God. And to be honest, I wish that people wouldn't try to call them something other than Christians. Because they are Christians. We don't need to preserve the sanctity of that term for only good moral upstanding people. It's just not fair or reasonable to say that only these really excellent people are real Christians and everyone else isn't really a Christian. All that does is reinforce the term as something that conveys goodness and morality. If 95% of the people out there who are calling themselves Christians and who go to Christian churches and who read Christian Bibles act in a certain way, then sorry, that's what Christians are, that's what Christianity is.
Or, to put it more simply: Christians overwhelmingly voted for Trump.
Not all of them, definitely, but a huge percentage did.
That's what they are.
I think it’s that this type of Christian believes so wholeheartedly in Jesus’ forgiveness that they assume it means they can do anything they like and claim repentance afterwards
I've been saying for a while that they really ought to be called something other than Christians. Maybe "crooks" is a bit too much on the nose, but some new name is definitely required.
Camels.
For it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to gain entrance into heaven...
They worship wealth, they claim to follow these teachings and to know them well, and they expect to enter heaven? Then they are camels, lining up for the eyes of needles and expecting easy passage.
EDIT: Wait, wait.
Scamels.
"Bible" is such a weird way to spell Epstein files.
Yeah American evangelicals don't think any Catholics understand the Bible.
That's because they follow the Capitalist Bible
Partly, but also because they're chauvinistic about their religion and think Catholics aren't Christian. Even at their best they practice sola scriptura and disagree with Catholics on interpretation, therefore they assume Catholics don't actually understand the bible. Meanwhile Catholics look at them confused as to how anyone can read that thing, reject all context snd traditional interpretation, and come away believing every word is literally true and that they have an unerring understanding of it, much less without the graduate degree in the topic priests need.
Praise Supply Side Jesus!
I’m not surprised to see a conservative Baptist minister not missing a chance to take a swipe at Catholicism
He must not be familiar with the seminary school curriculum.
"My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” --Isaac Asimov
This guy is definitely in the Epstein files.. probably a supplier..
Megachurch pastor? Don't do him dirty like that. He likely also a diddler as well.
Perhaps Trump has a better understanding of American Christians than the Pope does.
"christians"
Most of the Christians I’ve met are that type of Christian, so I don’t buy the “no true Christian” thing. They own this. Christian = MAGA, at least in this country.
He means the guy that said two corinthians?
A Christian pastor who shills and grifts? I don't think that's ever been done before. /s
All pastors are like this just most don't know it yet.
That bible experts cannot agree on what the bible means, and which of its doctrine is important, makes for a strong argument that it is a historical document, neither inspired, nor univocal, nor inerrant.
If it were divine, then its meaning would be clear beyond debate.
In other words, it's just a bunch of mythology invented by dudes in the bronze age, and nothing more.
Yeah, this is why in a way Catholicism and Orthodox makes more sense where you have an ultimate authority chosen by god to update Christianity. Has its own issues though like the time when the pope issued purgatory skip papers for money to fund pet projects.
Also known as "The Sheepherder's Guide to the Galaxy".
Hey now let's be fair here, most of it is iron age. Up until the Assyrians it's probably describing mythology and legend that takes place from roughly the stone age, chalcolithic, and bronze age.
Netanyahu is a master chef with bacon too.
I mean... with all the hypocrisy... he probably is
Secretly owns a chain called Bibi Burger, famous for bacon cheeseburgers.
Should probably rename it to "Five Guys Who I Let Have My Daughters"
Well. If you attempt to read it upside down it just invokes Satan and the Antichrist... /s.
Every Bible passage is his favorite. Like the story of Lot and his daughters.
It would be a first time experience for him where he's not the rapist.
Is that brown lipstick he's wearing?
That's just from the shit he's talking
No it's the same shade that every one of these "Christian leaders" is wearing these days. It comes from them trying to lick Trump's asshole.
Or the saggy orange arse he's been kissing.
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/
One idiot propping up another idiot.
All those fucking fundies.
They became the very thing they hate.
In nomine patris et filii et spiritus sancti, amen.
Speak American like Jesus did. None of that layten stuff. That's gay roman sheeit.
For thee, Lord, for thee.
This pastor clearly doesn't believe in heaven and hell, or he would lie in support of the literal anti-christ.
I'm guessing that the 'pastor' has some pretty heavy callouses on his knees that aren't from praying.
And possibly some very pronounced muscles in his lower face.
Bigly!
And who cares what this nobody says?
Should this be an item in even a garbage UK outlet, or worse Lemmy?
Sounds like someone wants an invite to wherever they moved Epstein Island to!
I thought plumbing was in his DNA. It must be getting pretty crowded in there.
The trump bible is like all the folders full of “plans” he presented to the press. Official looking covers with nothing but empty pages between them.
I suppose that's why he held it upside down after his fascist photo op in front of that church?
no he doesnt. he listens to his sick-minded "preacher" who also misinterprets the scriptures he cherry picks
Of course he knows more about the Bible - how many has this Leo guy even eaten? Can’t be half as many as Trump.
Wasn’t he selling Trump Bibles for a while? I don’t see any Pope Bibles for sale.
EXACTLY! The Bible the pope uses probably doesn’t even have the Constitution in it! What a poser.
Well, he could be right. Not something people who believe in religion want to hear however religion's purpose is to control the masses and Trump and his ilk are all about controlling the masses. God is just the manipulating tool.
American Christianity is fascism with even worse music. That's what Pussolini understands.
I doubt Trump has ever read more than a few passages.
Said every "good Christian"
Is that like a True Scotsman?
The moment of truth where they choose a jealous God or Trump. 😂😂
Djt is the smartest motherfucker he has ever met - in his own mind.
pope leo? more like nope leo
Personally, I prefer Pope Bob.
Has a folksy ring to it that's delightfully incompatible with the whole Vatican ridiculousness 😁