Agreed. Why would Iran trust him to stick to a deal like we had before? That deal required having a lot of trust in the US government to abide by our deals.
I'm pretty much against the proliferation of weapons, and a country where the government is basically a maniac at the reins of a regressive death-cult, shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.
But since the US already has a bunch, I can't see why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have at least one.
Israel has them too, and I don't really trust them at all. It's crazy to me that Israel gets to demand Iran doesn't get nukes, supposedly because Iran will attack them, yet they invade anyone the can. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it's good for Israel to have nukes, it's good for their adversaries.
My opinion is that no one should have them, but we're far past that point. I don't really know what happens in a world where everyone has nukes, but I can't think of a good argument that these other nations, who invade whoever they want, should be the arbiter of who gets them.
Hundreds of state department employees probably worked for 30 years on sanctions, diplomacy, and building trust to get that agreement. Trump blew it all up (including inflation and the economy) because that's how racist he is. Can't let a black man get a win, under any circumstances.
Also that those brown Iranians are practically cavemen, and will completely surrender at our technological might, as if they've never seen a motorized vehicle before, and they can be manipulated and scammed like the sub-human animals he thinks they are.
Meanwhile, most of the Iranian government leadership holds PhDs, while Trump holds a press conference to announce he was able to identify four animals, three whole times.
especially with his AG being TODD BLANCHE, and many other epstein files are going to media , he need something bigger than IRAn, because iran war is actually hurting the gop.
It won't even be as good of a deal, just any deal. But the important part is that it will be Trump's deal. That's all he cares about. That his name is on it.
What about the war crimes and the thousands of Iranians the U.S. is murdering? What about the more than a hundred schoolchildren who were torn to pieces by bombs during a direct U.S. attack on a school? Of course, those aren’t worth mentioning to this guy - only the U.S. "service members" and gas prices matter.
It's all Biden's fault. He did it too, you know, why don't you complain about that?
Edit: I guess I should have included /S. I thought it was so ridiculous that anybody would know it was sarcastic, but after all this time, I should know better.
Maybe because he wasn't on the news every fucking day hearing about some bsllshit half baked cunning plan on how to fuck over everyone who doesn't have an American Eagle tattoo so I don't know what he did or didn't do to fuck up the world.
Honestly, no idea. Our news didn't keep track of minute by minute what he was up to like it seems to with the Orange Murder Monkey you guys keep electing. He might have done something crazy for all I know, and just not tweeted about it at 4 am in a dementia fueled rant.
But with the second topic, how does this country make you sick? We live in a time of plenty not money wise but in technology, and our rights. We have the right to speak, the right to bear arms, the right of religion, the right to far trial. We still have all these gifts to thank God for.
This country is ruled by a serious criminal and pedophile who not only shamelessly embezzles billions in public funds and imprisons thousands of people in concentration camps, but also plunges the world into terror and war.
This monstrous regime commits so many repulsive crimes that it is impossible to list them all.
One of the tools the US employs in this is precisely the technology you mention: One example is Palantir, a diabolical corporation whose founder is an open fascist, with the kind support of both the US government and the butchers in Israel. The groundless, comprehensive mass surveillance offered by these monsters is, in turn, being rolled out to other countries by U.S. lobbyists with government support, in order to curtail the very civil liberties you speak of.
God has nothing to do with this; rather it is the lack of consistency, for US citizens remain largely passive in the face of all the crimes of their regime. Now and then, as on May 1, there are symbolic protests that, due to their one-off nature, naturally remain ineffective. And so the criminals at the top of the U.S. oligarchy can simply continue to terrorize the world, since U.S. citizens -who are the only ones who could put a stop to it - don’t even rise up against their own exploitation.
If the U.S. does indeed have the extensive rights you claim, how is it possible that the country is still run by organized crime? How is it possible that, despite all this, the citizens do not go on strike until the fascists are removed from power?
That is what I despise: The U.S. is a country that demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that even the most horrific crimes go unpunished for the billionaires who commit them. In doing so, the U.S. sets an example for all the monsters of this world - and not only that, because the U.S. regime also actively and intentionally undermines international law, since it stands in the way of their crimes.
Why do you think the US has never recognized the International Criminal Court and has always actively obstructed its work?
You know an American's rights to speak, to freedom of religion and a fair trial are being challenged and denied right now by the current administration, correct?
We live in a time of plenty, we have enough food to ensure no one goes hungry. We have medicine to cure things like turburculousis that has been killing humans as far back as we know. We choose not to share this plenty fairly, but you have the right to bear arms so I guess that makes everything ok?
Who's we? And i dont want the right to religion, i want the right to NOT have religion!
Right to bear arms? How about the right to shoot them? Is that really freedom, the freedom to hide a gun in your pants and if you ever actually use it govt agents kill you?
Right to speak? But reporters are getting sued by the government for calling out our alcoholic fbi chief for being an alcoholic.
the one and only God. Our Lord and Saver Jesus Christ.
I do see on what you are saying about the right to speak. but us as a country are not speaking out to the government, but the ones who do are getting killed and NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!! the stupid government are trying to be in control.
At this point, why would Iran give up any nuclear ambitions on a promise from the United States? Our promises are clearly not worth the ink they are written in.
Not to mention the fact that this gave Iran the perfect opportunity to test out their theory on whether or not they could control the strait of Hormuz. Until this year it had only been a crackpot idea in their military circles. Now it's official policy for that country.
Also
- less oil is traded in USA dollars,
- the USA national debt reached highs that just beg for a rating downgrade,
- quite a few NATO allies now see buying USA weapons as a liability,
- the stock market atm is just AI (I mean that as a big volatility factor at an inopportune moment),
- China publicly gave 0 fucks about USA's shenanigans & the USA was forced to ignore it,
- and public opinion is now finally switching against USA companies.
Maybe the USA will have a crisis the will be the perfect moment for a coup. By the existing rulers. So not under new management.
You gotta speak the language of the people you're trying to get through to.
Would still be nice to mention the hundreds of children and thousands of innocent Iranians too but it's completely possible the people who need to be convinced this is bad would actually like that
Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.
Also it facilitated Israel's expansion.
And millions in poor nations are affected by high fuel prices directly (transport, cooking, medical facilities, agriculture, etc - in developed nations we just pay more for fuel, but the poor ones just can't afford that, that is the reason why gas prices haven't really exploded, they are "just a bit higher" bcs already at these level 20 or so % can't afford it & the market reaches equilibrium at lower quantify).
Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.
I would assume/hope that this is because they are targeting an audience that voted for Trump who don't care about the people America and it's allies kill.
And who told us all "dems bad cause they'll start wars and drive the price of petrol up and made America look bad on the world stage" etc
And dont forget, we assassinated their leader so he could be replaced with an even more extreme leader who will probably align themselves with china and russia.
To cause chaos, supplant the Epstein files with more "urgent" news; increase market volatility, kill children.... increase share price for defense contractors and profits for corporations that can use oil prices as a justification for ever higher prices.... the lie is that any of this has a point beyond itself or is in any way accidental.... even the partial release of the Epstein files was planned, cause if those child murdering fuckers in charge don't pull the curtain back every generation or so it stops being fun for them
He's obsessed with the delusion that only he can make deals. Only the best deals, the likes of which no one has seen before. Strong deals. 'Uge. Bigly deals.
I am reminded of the quote that "a clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower".
It's not a delusion, it's sophistry so he can steal more money. Everything he does is a way to generate bribes and ways to siphon money. He says whatever nonsense he doesn't care if it doesn't make any sense, what matters is he walks out of the press conference and starts planning how he's gonna steal more money.
Don't forget the insider trading, both in the stock markets and our new "predictive markets." We bet on missle strikes now. I'm sure there're no incentives there or anything.
If that was be true, why didn't they build one at any time in the past decades? They had everything needed to do it, including missiles to (theoretically) hit NATO countries.
Iran was very public about everything nuclear, including uranium stocks & facility inspections (bcs they didn't want a war, & are already surrounded in the region).
Just before the war they were asking the USA what to do with the highest grade enriched uranium (bcs at the time USA suddenly took offence to that) but USA didn't even respond (I mean it did with bombs, like a bully that does not want peace).
He hasn't actually managed to secure that deal yet. He might easily get something worse.
Agreed. Why would Iran trust him to stick to a deal like we had before? That deal required having a lot of trust in the US government to abide by our deals.
It's almost for sure worse. JCPOA was great (except for time limits) - I doubt they'll give up nuclear ambitions and allow inspectors
At this point, it seems pretty obvious that the only way to ensure the US and Israel don't try this again, is if Iran does get a nuke.
That might actually be the solution.
I'm pretty much against the proliferation of weapons, and a country where the government is basically a maniac at the reins of a regressive death-cult, shouldn't have a nuclear weapon.
But since the US already has a bunch, I can't see why Iran shouldn't be allowed to have at least one.
Israel has them too, and I don't really trust them at all. It's crazy to me that Israel gets to demand Iran doesn't get nukes, supposedly because Iran will attack them, yet they invade anyone the can. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If it's good for Israel to have nukes, it's good for their adversaries.
My opinion is that no one should have them, but we're far past that point. I don't really know what happens in a world where everyone has nukes, but I can't think of a good argument that these other nations, who invade whoever they want, should be the arbiter of who gets them.
Can't put the genie back in the bottle sadly.
It’s already going to be a worse deal because it gave Iran the defacto option to mine/close the Strait of Hormuz anytime it wants more cash.
Oh yeah, it's already going to be a worse deal, the Obama deal was great, kind of crazy they got it, actually.
It's just a matter of how BAD the Trump deal will be.
Hundreds of state department employees probably worked for 30 years on sanctions, diplomacy, and building trust to get that agreement. Trump blew it all up (including inflation and the economy) because that's how racist he is. Can't let a black man get a win, under any circumstances.
Also that those brown Iranians are practically cavemen, and will completely surrender at our technological might, as if they've never seen a motorized vehicle before, and they can be manipulated and scammed like the sub-human animals he thinks they are.
Meanwhile, most of the Iranian government leadership holds PhDs, while Trump holds a press conference to announce he was able to identify four animals, three whole times.
Right? Two months ago, closing the Strait was unthinkable, it was a thread that nobody would believe. Now it's any day. Well done.
Yeah, but at least we aren't talking about the Trump/Epstein files anymore.
We aren't?
He rapes children
He definitely does both.
At this point the rest of the world will be invading America just to find out what the fuck is in them already.
Did Trump eat a child's heart Aztec human sacrifice style? What does Putin have on him exactly?
I'm sure I speak for many people when I say I am so tired of my cost of living going up for the Epstein class.
especially with his AG being TODD BLANCHE, and many other epstein files are going to media , he need something bigger than IRAn, because iran war is actually hurting the gop.
It won't even be as good of a deal, just any deal. But the important part is that it will be Trump's deal. That's all he cares about. That his name is on it.
But more importantly, it doesn't have Obama's name on it.
That part is more important to other Republicans. To Trump it's all about the Trump.
Just like both times he's renegotiated north American free trade agreements, I'm sure this too will last.
Right on the fucking money.
And it will be the greatest deal in the history of the world.
What about the war crimes and the thousands of Iranians the U.S. is murdering? What about the more than a hundred schoolchildren who were torn to pieces by bombs during a direct U.S. attack on a school? Of course, those aren’t worth mentioning to this guy - only the U.S. "service members" and gas prices matter.
All too typical. This country makes me sick...
What about the Roughly 45 million more people could be pushed into acute hunger this year if conflict persists
The impact of this is so much more wide spread than just US Gas prices and the atrocities being committed by the USA and Israel.
It is, but unfortunately a vast majority of Americans don't seem to care unless it affects them directly (at the pump).
And 1/3 will believe any lie told to them.
Honestly having a hard time coping rn
It's all Biden's fault. He did it too, you know, why don't you complain about that?
Edit: I guess I should have included /S. I thought it was so ridiculous that anybody would know it was sarcastic, but after all this time, I should know better.
Maybe because he wasn't on the news every fucking day hearing about some bsllshit half baked cunning plan on how to fuck over everyone who doesn't have an American Eagle tattoo so I don't know what he did or didn't do to fuck up the world.
I mean, he was pretty bad, but none of this is his fault. Just in case you aren't kidding
Honestly, no idea. Our news didn't keep track of minute by minute what he was up to like it seems to with the Orange Murder Monkey you guys keep electing. He might have done something crazy for all I know, and just not tweeted about it at 4 am in a dementia fueled rant.
The imperialism runs deep in the mainstream American worldview. They're raised on it from a young age.
I agree with you on the first topic.
But with the second topic, how does this country make you sick? We live in a time of plenty not money wise but in technology, and our rights. We have the right to speak, the right to bear arms, the right of religion, the right to far trial. We still have all these gifts to thank God for.
This country is ruled by a serious criminal and pedophile who not only shamelessly embezzles billions in public funds and imprisons thousands of people in concentration camps, but also plunges the world into terror and war.
This monstrous regime commits so many repulsive crimes that it is impossible to list them all.
One of the tools the US employs in this is precisely the technology you mention: One example is Palantir, a diabolical corporation whose founder is an open fascist, with the kind support of both the US government and the butchers in Israel. The groundless, comprehensive mass surveillance offered by these monsters is, in turn, being rolled out to other countries by U.S. lobbyists with government support, in order to curtail the very civil liberties you speak of.
God has nothing to do with this; rather it is the lack of consistency, for US citizens remain largely passive in the face of all the crimes of their regime. Now and then, as on May 1, there are symbolic protests that, due to their one-off nature, naturally remain ineffective. And so the criminals at the top of the U.S. oligarchy can simply continue to terrorize the world, since U.S. citizens -who are the only ones who could put a stop to it - don’t even rise up against their own exploitation.
If the U.S. does indeed have the extensive rights you claim, how is it possible that the country is still run by organized crime? How is it possible that, despite all this, the citizens do not go on strike until the fascists are removed from power?
That is what I despise: The U.S. is a country that demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that even the most horrific crimes go unpunished for the billionaires who commit them. In doing so, the U.S. sets an example for all the monsters of this world - and not only that, because the U.S. regime also actively and intentionally undermines international law, since it stands in the way of their crimes.
Why do you think the US has never recognized the International Criminal Court and has always actively obstructed its work?
Did you just wake up, Rip Van Winkle, or did someone drop you on your head?
IDK know, did you just wake up because you don't sound to happy.
I'm trying to assume this is sarcasm...
its not.
You know an American's rights to speak, to freedom of religion and a fair trial are being challenged and denied right now by the current administration, correct?
I did not know that.
"current administration" womp womp
(rights to speak and fair trial were all out of the window long before Trump ever took office)
(freedom of religion? Fine... anyway, the only ethical thing to do is to tax them, which isn't happening any time soon)
We live in a time of plenty, we have enough food to ensure no one goes hungry. We have medicine to cure things like turburculousis that has been killing humans as far back as we know. We choose not to share this plenty fairly, but you have the right to bear arms so I guess that makes everything ok?
Ask Alex Pretti if you have the right to bear arms.
That depends, in my opinoin
Did you mean to post this back in 2015?
lol, NO
No we don't you fucking weirdo. When was the last time you were on trial?
what do you mean?
Username checks out.
Hey!! I just picked some random name, don't judge my user name boy!!
Who's we? And i dont want the right to religion, i want the right to NOT have religion!
Right to bear arms? How about the right to shoot them? Is that really freedom, the freedom to hide a gun in your pants and if you ever actually use it govt agents kill you?
Right to speak? But reporters are getting sued by the government for calling out our alcoholic fbi chief for being an alcoholic.
And which god are you thanking?
the one and only God. Our Lord and Saver Jesus Christ.
I do see on what you are saying about the right to speak. but us as a country are not speaking out to the government, but the ones who do are getting killed and NO ONE IS SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!!!! the stupid government are trying to be in control.
So you dont believe in Allah or Zeus?
Why would I? I there is no living proof of those dumb storys that are true
Fair enough, i guess you and I are almost the same. I dont believe in any of the millions gods, and you don't either minus one.
lol 🤣, what religion are you?
He is not getting anything close to Obama's deal. Also we get to keep the high gas prices.
The end result is to suck more money out of the pockets of ordinary people, into the hoards of the wealthy. That is the point of it all.
When it's not working, its working.
At this point, why would Iran give up any nuclear ambitions on a promise from the United States? Our promises are clearly not worth the ink they are written in.
Especially if Israel isn't held to disarm either.
I mean they dont seek nuclear weapons and they have a right to nuclear power, this war was literally started for no good reason at all by the us.
But Trump managed to prevent Netanyahu from releasing what’s in the E files about him unredacted - for now anyway
No, it’s actually worse than Obama’s deal and yields a lot of concessions and leverage to Iran
Not to mention the fact that this gave Iran the perfect opportunity to test out their theory on whether or not they could control the strait of Hormuz. Until this year it had only been a crackpot idea in their military circles. Now it's official policy for that country.
So, thanks Trump.
Also
- less oil is traded in USA dollars,
- the USA national debt reached highs that just beg for a rating downgrade,
- quite a few NATO allies now see buying USA weapons as a liability,
- the stock market atm is just AI (I mean that as a big volatility factor at an inopportune moment),
- China publicly gave 0 fucks about USA's shenanigans & the USA was forced to ignore it,
- and public opinion is now finally switching against USA companies.
Maybe the USA will have a crisis the will be the perfect moment for a coup. By the existing rulers. So not under new management.
Plus children have died as part of this new deal
Well, there isn't a deal at the moment, so no one has died as a result of it yet.
But with "self-defense strikes" having just occurred by the US on Iran, I don't think the deal is working out. Maybe though, who knows.
I'm still laughing that I was banned from a community for saying Harris wouldn't have invaded Iran.
Vaush gets visibly upset when it's brought up on his stream that Harris wouldn't have.
Hadn't heard of him so watching a clip now, what dumbness.
Don't you love contributing to the success of dumbness on the internet?
The point was to remove epstein from the headlines and also to steal money with the war spending
Exactly right!
Oh my god? 13 dead? AMERICANS??? AMERICANS DEAD???
You gotta speak the language of the people you're trying to get through to.
Would still be nice to mention the hundreds of children and thousands of innocent Iranians too but it's completely possible the people who need to be convinced this is bad would actually like that
I really don't understand the American number system. How much is that in dead brown school children?
It't not even close to Obamas deal. So far it is just a big fuckup, as usual with Trump.
Don't forget that Obama is black! /s
Somehow it always feels like an ad-campaign for nuclear weapons when countries with some attack countries without any.
Ukraine's been running that ad for what, 4 years now?
Yea, absolutely.
Epstein who?
Funny how that suicide note just happens to surface right along with “operation Epst-ic fury is winding down”.
Right? Dude's been dead for 7 fucking years. Let's see the chain of custody on this note, liars.
*worse. Worse than Obama's deal.
Shart of the deal
Really weird to count death toll only in 'murikan ppl, but yes.
Also it facilitated Israel's expansion.
And millions in poor nations are affected by high fuel prices directly (transport, cooking, medical facilities, agriculture, etc - in developed nations we just pay more for fuel, but the poor ones just can't afford that, that is the reason why gas prices haven't really exploded, they are "just a bit higher" bcs already at these level 20 or so % can't afford it & the market reaches equilibrium at lower quantify).
I would assume/hope that this is because they are targeting an audience that voted for Trump who don't care about the people America and it's allies kill.
And who told us all "dems bad cause they'll start wars and drive the price of petrol up and made America look bad on the world stage" etc
Possibly. Then prob using "previous deal" would have been better too.
Oh, don't worry, it won't be anywhere near as good as Obama's deal.
The point is that if Obama did it then racist hates it.
And dont forget, we assassinated their leader so he could be replaced with an even more extreme leader who will probably align themselves with china and russia.
What else should we expect? 😂
Yeah, but Obama's deal was terrible, and Trump's deal is amazing. Only traitors can't see the difference. /s
Also spent $100 billion that'll go to the MIC to rearm!
Yes but now it has Trumps name on it
To cause chaos, supplant the Epstein files with more "urgent" news; increase market volatility, kill children.... increase share price for defense contractors and profits for corporations that can use oil prices as a justification for ever higher prices.... the lie is that any of this has a point beyond itself or is in any way accidental.... even the partial release of the Epstein files was planned, cause if those child murdering fuckers in charge don't pull the curtain back every generation or so it stops being fun for them
Plus make billions with insider betting on polymarket and friends.
And he'll call it a victory.
He's obsessed with the delusion that only he can make deals. Only the best deals, the likes of which no one has seen before. Strong deals. 'Uge. Bigly deals.
I am reminded of the quote that "a clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower".
It's not a delusion, it's sophistry so he can steal more money. Everything he does is a way to generate bribes and ways to siphon money. He says whatever nonsense he doesn't care if it doesn't make any sense, what matters is he walks out of the press conference and starts planning how he's gonna steal more money.
The concerns of the american libs:
Their gas prices and the lives of their mass murdering army soldiers.
Disgusting country.
4, dare I say it, 5-dimensional chess?!
5-dementional chess.
Dimentional-even!?
(As in double-dementia?)
Don't forget the insider trading, both in the stock markets and our new "predictive markets." We bet on missle strikes now. I'm sure there're no incentives there or anything.
The point is corruption and insider trading, the whole thing people knowingly voted for but like to pretend they didn't.
No, no. Worse than Obama's deal.
Fuck anybody who participated in this war of sggression rhey are not service man they are terrorists.
The point was to put a puppet instead of the regime so the usa get more control on the cheap oil and gaz
Didnt you watch the market? Pump and dump baby
To answer the question, George Carlin opined on this some time ago with his bigger dick theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qqARrbi1h8
Yep. But now everyone is buying EVs.
So, in some ways, it is better long term
Everyone_else_ is. In the us we still have little choice at ridiculous prices. I have a Nazi mobile but not everyone can afford one
There's definitly something to be written about history of cars and fascism, if not done yet.
They have the original Beetle in mint condition.
I hope no Edison type ruins that book.
The artist currently known as Trump's spelling mistake.
When you think about it, there is some Art to his deals
This was a good one https://pca.st/episode/06b7ddf0-7966-4e77-82f7-f6af5c313b1f
So he can say he tore up Obama's deal and then say that he made a much better deal himself.
An attempt to exert dominance
The Obama deal was shite. The Trump deal is also shite.
Neither participant (Iran or USA) has ever honored an agreement when it's to their advantage to break it... what is the point indeed.
Iran will continue to develop/obtain nuclear weapons, because it's dumb not to (see Ukraine)
There is no evidence that Iran was not honoring the JCPOA, which included unprecedented inspections and oversight.
If that was be true, why didn't they build one at any time in the past decades? They had everything needed to do it, including missiles to (theoretically) hit NATO countries.
Iran was very public about everything nuclear, including uranium stocks & facility inspections (bcs they didn't want a war, & are already surrounded in the region).
Just before the war they were asking the USA what to do with the highest grade enriched uranium (bcs at the time USA suddenly took offence to that) but USA didn't even respond (I mean it did with bombs, like a bully that does not want peace).