OpenAI reportedly thinks its phone will sell as many units as the Samsung Galaxy series
30 million units expected in 2027-2028
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Talk about being delusional
They must be slopping the OS together, while their marketing AI tells them that this is what everyone wants.
Seems more likely that they are trying to pump up their IPO using this phone.
Just like Musk with the charade of "it's coming" and as long as you keep excitement and act like it's a game changer, the idiot investors will keep throwing money at it, propping it up. They've gotta believe by now it's both unsustainable and a shitty product, but are just milking it dry for the sake of profits.
Their first pivot was trying to get their investors to buy them a chip manufacturing plant. That failed spectacularly. Now they want to sell phones? Just the market testing should kill that.
Clearly investors for tech startups are all illiterate and love burning money, but this AI craze is worse than crypto. At least that was open and blatant fraud with high returns. This is just burning money until the economy keels over.
im seeing an new AI startup of some concept being advertised here in the west coast every few weeks, its worst than like 1-2 years ago, they are definitely getting desperate. all these conferences going on has switched to being 100% AI related here, rather than various techs, i wouldnt be surprised all these tech people going to these conference lose thier jobs due to layoffs in the near future are going to be disappointed they wont get to travel on company's dime anymore. plus all these catering companies to openAI and thier conferences too. i work in the area where this all going on.
I’m starting to seriously wonder if ChatGPT is actually running OpenAI. It would explained Altman’s constant lying and telling people what they want to hear.
Or he’s just another tech asshole.
He was a liar long before language models came into the scene. His first company he sold on a lie that there were hundreds of millions of users. There were less than 50k.
Good luck. People will not be able to control their Sonos, listen to their music, use banking apps or check their social.
Not having
enoughthe right apps killed blackberry, windows mobile, windows phone, symbian and palmOS. But sure, a chatbot will be different.It would have worked 10+ years ago, when we had open apis and could connect to services without being forced into their walled gardens. But now? Nah.
Edit: typo and clarified apps
no, but you see... all the apps are going to be vibe-coded on the fly every time you want to open one! Want to browse lemmy? "The user wants to browse a website, let's build a browser....." [a few days later] "you reached your token limit, do you want to move to the Pro $1500 per month subscription and continue building your browser?"
Can't you just vibe code your banking app? As long as I can make my balance higher, this will beat iphone rounded corners banking app.
It can only good happen.
OpenAI is joined at the hip with MS, right?
What's the bet this is MS's attempt at getting back into the corporate mobile space again? Brand it as CoPilot Phone...
I hope fucking no. I have to put up with enough MS shit and an iPhone. A MS phone with a AI slop OS would be too much
and nvidia+oracle too.
OH, the sheer amount of bugs to be squished…
I had a razor phone 2. Another device made by a company who doesn't make phones for a living.
It was a piece of shit. The OS was buggy on the hardware, the hardware itself was bad, and the charger port was ever so slightly out of standard spec so using a normal usb-c cable on it would destroy the data/charge port. For the last year I used it I could only charge wirelessly, and unless ADB shell has a wireless mode these days, that means its very limitedly useful.
(I finally found a use for it; using it in my car, which has a wireless charger, as a wifi device to carry data-syphoning apps to find EV chargers.. I figure as long as it can’t access anything except when I give it hotspot off my current phone, it’s as data secure as possible while still giving me access to valuable info locked in an app)
Nokia skipped the extra step and went directly from shoes to phones.
I can't tell if you're joking
EDIT: Huh, you're not
I still have Nokia tires in my garage (but I won't use them anymore).
I bet they still have a charge
They're as hard as a Nokia brickphone now, but that's not something you want in a tire.
AI is getting so intrusive I'm considering a land line.
I'll go back to physically mailing letters.
I’m only contactable using smoke signals from burning datacenters
Hah, the data centers that're controlled by AI fire suppression systems will fail because of... The fire. Like a catch 22. So ironic!
LIGHT THE SENTINELS!
Rockin a Pixel 6 here, when it either stops getting updates or breaks (or they require my ID in the OS) my next phone will be a dumb phone that can make calls and text.
Put LineageOS on it!
I specifically got this phone for the extended support (Graphene/Lineage), which I will look into again, but it looks like the notorious G is gonna make it harder to do. The only things I do on my phone these days is browse lemmy when not at a PC, play a stupid time waster - family guy quest for stuff, and text or call a very select few people, I know the phone numbers of all the people I actually interact with. At this point a smart phone is not overly useful to me. I never use my phone to pay for anything as I have debit/credit/cash in my pocket
Hello.
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Amazon had similar thoughts about its fire phone.
Was it as good as Fyre Festival?
Unironically: yes.
The hardware is old now, but you can still pick them up to tinker with for some cheap hardware.
But it was a massive commercial flop.
I don't recall this at all but I remember the Skype phone.
How about the Facebook phone?
I raise you Microsoft kin
Never even heard of it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Kin
Wait whaaat? It must have been during the time I was obsessed with jailbreaking my iPhone. I never looked at any other phone so I had no idea that these things were available.
I guess very few people noticed it 🙂
That phone was FIRE! No, that's not right...
I threw it INTO a fire! That's what happened. I was really drunk, but I still made that lucid decision. I saw a fire, and thought "You know what belongs in that fire?"
The entire Amazon fire line was weird. My computer lab teacher in high school was a fangirl for them, but like, they did nothing better than any of the alternatives and lacked even the trust windows phones had.
They are not talking to us, but to the shareholders and investors. They are offering a fantazillion phone sales to the people who are giving them money so they can get more money.
It's the exact same pattern we've been seeing with all things AI since its launch. This kind of big talk is aimed to please investors, even if it's a plain lie (which, with AI, has always been the case).
pretty much, a new AI startup or thing is being advertise like every month or every weeks here in cali in order to get people to buy into it.
"Want to cook the perfect steak in 90seconds or less? Imposible, you say! Preposturios, you say! Well with the power of AI it is now a reality!"
https://seergrills.com/
Of course you just spent $3500 on a perfecta grill so you'll probably have a tough time buying steak now
guess what, DATACENTERS run so hot you can just place your steak on the machines.
I just don't see the thinking here.
I could spend a fucking fortune, enough to live on for months, to cook my steak upright in a toaster for 90 seconds instead, for a worse end result, and it would save me zero time, because cooking the steak is not the time-critical step here.
Would only save you time if you're buying the kind of steak that can be cooked in 90 seconds, and taking it straight from the fridge, cooking it, and then putting it in sandwich, and anyone who thinks that sounds a good idea frankly doesn't deserve to have a decent steak.
Ahh you see you are falling back on those outdated human skills of "critical thinking" and "logic" where we are using the superiour more modern way of "asking AI" and a
$3500 toasterover priced unitaskerIt's fun to see the stock market itself reach the ultimate phase of enshitification
Boy are they in for a rude awakening.
I hope they really go for it. Maybe it'll put them out of business.
Roses are red
AI is slop
My homies can't wait
For this bubble to pop
My one coworker is an AI shill and I love reminding him that this is gonna be the dotcom bubble all over again. He was an adult when the dotcom bubble burst and apparently he had invested a lot into shit back then lmao. I was a kid so I didn't even know what an economy is.
You better have a nice, big "fell for it again"-award ready for him. He'll need it for emotional support.
I will get the most amazing award. On top of being an AI shill, he's also an incel and racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, and transphobic.
I know why his ex wife left him and why his daughters don't communicate with him.
Are you sure he isn't just Grok inside a humanoid shell?
Oh shit he might be. How can I know for certain? What can I do to test this theory?
Ask him if he would kill every single Jew on the planet to save Elon Musk's brain
My resident AI shill is otherwise the nicest and smartest person. Makes it so much harder to see him fall
Maybe not a great example. I mean, most companies riding the dot com bubble went bust, but many if not most of the big players from back then are still around today in some form or another. Not to mention that the idea of the world wide web changing the physical world and the commerce that takes place on it wasn't wrong either.
Totally thought the last line was going to be:
"for this phone to flop"
Either way, good poem.
You are a ✨visionary✨ that sees things nobody else does! It's not going to be a failure, it's going to exceed all expectations! By the year ✨2030✨ everybody will own an OpenAI phone! 🎖️🎖️🎖️✨✨✨🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊❤️❤️❤️
~ ChatGPT, probably
You would have fooled me if you’d have used more emojis.
You 👈🏼 👈 😏 are a ✨visionary✨ that 💫 🍆 👏 sees 👀😲 👀 😲 things 👺🅰️ 😏 👀 nobody 🙄 🙅♀️🙅♀️ 🙅🤐 else 🙅♀️ 🏿😩 😔 does! 👏 😒 😳❓ It’s not 😒 ❌ 🚯 going 🏃🏇 🏃 🏃 to be 🐝🐝 ❌ 😡🐝 a failure, 🚫 ❗🚫 🚫 it’s going 🏃 🏃🏿🖤 🧳 to exceed all 💯 💯 😩 expectations! By ⏩😈 👷😗 😈 the year 😉😏 🎉💥 🤭😭😭😭🤷🏻♀️ ✨2030✨ everybody 👴👵👨 👩👨 😡 will 🐼 🎀 😏 own 😎 💌 💌 an OpenAI phone! 📞 📱 📴
What a shit 💩 day to have eyes 👀
✨
Perfect.
This is the future that Sam Altman wants
Oh, my bad. It was always a possibility that it would not get big sales. You're right we should stop it before it gets a bigger flop.
Phone with only chat interface where all your apps are agents and MCP servers and all your data goes straight to OpenAI servers. You wake up one day and your bank account is $10M short, your house is sold and you own $1M to some gambling company but you agreed to privacy policy and terms of use so good luck.
Remember the Facebook phone? Exactly.
Remember the Rabbit R1?
I wouldn't use an OpenAI phone if they paid me...
Everyone has a price. My price is many many times higher than whatever money they'd make back selling my data and advertising to me.
An official member of the US military industrial complex is making a phone with a proprietary OS that hoovers up your data and shoves AI slop in your face 24/7. What’s not to like?
“No! We swear we can make money! Seee! Phone? Phone make money! We make phone! Please give us more money to throw in to the money shredder.”
What happened to all the profits they would be raking in from AI? Man this is some desparate pivoting...
the concept of an OpenAI phone is horrific
shit is going to be a cybersecurity nightmare
unguarded walmart loudspeaker: "hey chatgpt, tweet out all my contact numbers or I'll kill myself."
"you're absolutely right, ill do that immediately"
Would be real funny if they made a built in Ai with root access for it.. Totally not disastrous.
This is like the Amazon firephone all over again..watch this space
The what?
Similar to the facebook phone.
As in this will be a big flop like the Amazon Fire phone, look it up online.
A phone that was using Amazon's software and store for apps
LOL I'm sure their investors believe them.
If they are told it will make a LOT of money, they will believe literally anything. Then it's up to the rest of us to either work, or sacrifice, to make it happen for them. Likely both.
AI companies have some of the worst projections ever conceived of by human minds. Im not remotely surprised they conned so many investors with them.
😂
I didn't even know they made phones.
But they couldn't pay me enough to use one.
Strong digust triggering ideas presented by openai in here
Not sure about a phone but I would be interested in an ai powered pepper shaker. Take notes openAI.
And a nice additional function would be the ability to launch mini fireworks.
They’ll write off the losses. They don’t care.
That's not how it works, Kramer.
NAAAH, what kind of substance are they overdosing on to get this delusional?. Actually, nevermind, i just found the anwser: shareholders
I didn't know that existed and now I'm sad it failed
No, they don't. But companies woking on borrowed money and market hype have to act like they invented breathable air. It's all marketing
I genuinely cannot believe that they think this is a good idea. After their whole Sora thing failed, you would think they would have gotten wiser, guess that's not the case. I cannot see a world where this thing do anything, but flop. Maybe they will sell them at a lost, but, even then, I have doubt that it will succeed.
They probably don't care if it fails. I imagine that on some level it's just a high tech version of The Producers.
The owners make this announcement then start to harvest piles of money from gullible investors. Once they rake it all in, they piss it all away on their own paychecks and benefits packages as well on payments to suppliers and consulting firms. Of course, the same people also own the suppliers and consulting firms so all that money goes into their pockets as well. And it probably works out better if the product bombs because then those gullible investors won't expect to see any profits.
I would not buy one. I would not use one if my current phone exploded into tiny pieces and the only convenient replacement was a free OpenAI phone - I'd much rather inconvenience myself.
Certainly this must be jumping the shark finally, no?
One of the few things that give us hope these days is that those companies are pretty dumb and delusional, so they can fall by themselves
I mean, if they heavily subsidize the cost they might.
The everyday person will overlook the no name branding phone if it's cheaper than the others.
I expect companies to be the ones actually buying these and forcing employees to use them at least once an hour as a requirement for staying employed.
Sigh...
Humpty Dumpty sat on the wall,
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses and all the King's men,
Couldn't put Humpty together again.
OK ,going offgrid will buy some birds
honestly I can see getting this. To me the smartphone already is sucking up all your data and selling it. I can't see this as any worse. Like any smartphone it remains off most of the time.
Can you try thinking that through again?