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piefed.zip

Without doubt, the turkey. Buckle up, it's a wild ride: The North American bird is named after the Eurasian country because it reminded settlers from Europe of an African bird, the guinea fowl. Allegedly, they called the guinea fowl "turkey fowl" because it was first imported to Europe through Turkey.

That'd be crazy enough, if it stopped there. The French call it dinde, as in d'Inde, or Indian fowl, because it came from a land originally confused with India. The Dutch, though, call it kalkoen, which derives from "fowl of Calicut," which is a city in India now called Kozhikode. Lots of other languages use a derivation of this word. Apparently, they got turkeys from India after Portuguese traders brought them from the Americas. I say Americas, because the Portuguese name is perú, a South American name that they used to refer to Spanish settlements in the Americas, generally. The Spanish, on the other hand, call the bird pavo, derived from the Latin word for peafowl, which actually are from India.

Germans, at least, call it Truthuhn, or Pute, onomatopoetic names based on the birds' calls.

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lemmy.world

Geoduck

Its pronounced "gooey-duck"
Its not gooey
Its not a duck
Its a clam

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lemmy.world

Clam expert here. It comes from the Salish word gʷidəq, a word whose exact etymology is not well understood. Why that became anglicized as "geo-", I am not linguistically experienced enough to know!

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eldavireply
lemmy.ml

Clam expert here

how many times have you had to explain when people expressed surprise that clam experts exist? lol

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sh.itjust.works

The Salish languages mostly use a phonetic alphabet, and if I recall correctly, only one has standardized an alphabet which only happened in the 1970s. So the written word got obliterated compared to the pronunciation. The 'ge' is meant to sound like 'get'. But since 'geo' exists, we hear and read 'Jee-oh' before ever thinking 'Geh-oo'.

/former geoduck farmer and language student where geoducks were the mascot.

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I had to google this, legitimately thought you were referring to a Pokemon or something. Some weird combination of Geodude and Psyduck, maybe.

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Jackreply
lemmy.ca
  • Asturian: piña (Spain, via Latin)
  • Tagalog: pinya (Philippines, via Spanish)
  • Afrikaans: pynappel (Southern Africa, via Dutch like English)
  • Japanese: painappuru
  • Korean: painaepeul
  • Welsh: pîn-afal, afal pin
  • .
  • Chamicuro: mawuli (Peru)
  • Cherokee: notsiiYusdisvgata (USA)
  • Chinese, Cantonese: bo1 lo4, fung6 lei4-2
  • Chinese, Hakka: vòng-lì
  • Chinese, Hokkien: ông-lâi
  • Chinese, Mandarin: bōluó, fènglí, huánglí
  • Dusun, Central: tintingabai (Malaysia)
  • Hawaiian: hala kahiki
  • Isan: bàk-nát (Thailand)
  • Kaqchikel: ch’op (Guatemala)
  • Khmer: mnŏəh (Cambodia)
  • Lao: māk nat
  • Malayalam: kaita (India)
  • Melanau, Central: piseng (Malaysia)
  • Nahuatl: matzahtli (Mexico)
  • Ojibwe: zhingwaako-mishiimin (USA, Canada)
  • Pali: kharattaca, madhuketakī, bahunettaphala (India, SL, SE Asia)
  • Thai, Central: sàp-bpà-rót
  • Tibetan: thang 'bras
  • Vietnamese: dứa, cây dứa, thơm, cây thơm, khóm, cây khóm

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pineapple (plant)

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Note: While "ananás" is one name for it in Portuguese, in Brazil it's more often called "abacaxi", and other Portuguese-speaking countries may use both words to differentiate cultivars. Both words come from the old-tupi language a lot of indigenous American peoples spoke.

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It does kinda look like a pinecone, though, and "apple" just means "fruit."

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lemmy.world

The English Horn is not a horn nor was it invented in England. It is a woodwind and was created in Poland (Silesia at the time). Also the French Horn was created in Germany, although it is at least a horn.

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My aggressively pedantic music theory prof in college insisted that “French” was incorrectly applied to the horn and that we should instead call it the Horn in F. She did not play the horn.

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I dunno man, some of those ducks might deserve it.

(IYKYK)

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It dries out and falls off. The proper tape is aluminum tape, or foil tape.

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Yosemite actually is a Miwok phrase meaning "those who kill", referring either to the Ahwahnechee people who were feared by the Miwok, or to European colonizers themselves. Colonialism produces a lot of misnomers.

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lemmy.ca

Primodial soup. It was perfectly sterile. No organic matter in it. (didn't exist yet.) Today's oceans are wet cement in comparison.

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lemmy.ml

The word primordial doesn’t imply anything living. It means something that came before something else. It’s the soup of organic compounds from which life originally formed.

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Quilotoareply
lemmy.ca

My problem is with the word soup. Scientists don't call today's ocean a soup and it has many times more compounds, materials, and living matter.

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Would you have preferred "primordial cereal" instead?

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sh.itjust.works

Common sense. Much less common than the name would suggest.

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lemmy.ca

They squeal like pigs for food and they used to cost a guinea in UK when people first sold them as pets.

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tlebreply
lemmy.ca

That's apocryphal actually, according to wikipedia:

The origin of "guinea" in "guinea pig" is unclear. One proposed explanation is that the animals were brought to Europe by way of Guinea, leading people to think they had originated there.[1] "Guinea" was also frequently used in English to refer generally to any far-off, unknown country, so the name may be a colorful reference to the animal's exotic origins.[27][28]

Another hypothesis suggests the "guinea" in the name is a corruption of "Guiana", an area in South America.[27][29] A common misconception is that they were so named because they were sold for the price of a guinea coin. This hypothesis is untenable because the guinea was first struck in England in 1663, and William Harvey used the term "Ginny-pig" as early as 1653.[30] Others believe "guinea" may be an alteration of the word coney (rabbit); guinea pigs were referred to as "pig coneys" in Edward Topsell's 1607 treatise on quadrupeds.[1]

They also just have lots of strange names in different languages

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They also just have lots of strange names in different languages

In Polish it's "świnka morska", literally "sea piggy" (same in basically all Slavic and many central/north Asian languages). Though it was officially renamed "kawia domowa" few years ago because even the superconservative Polish Language Council had enough.

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lemmy.world

Mistletoe.

It looks neither like mist, nor rain, nor missile, or definitely not a toe.

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Lool TIL. I remember learning the word for the first time as a kid and was just so confused.

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feddit.org

Left and right politics. Extreme right people don't want rights for the people.

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groetreply
feddit.org

They got that name because of the position of their seats in the national assembly after the French revolution. Those that were pro monarchy sat to the right, those that were opposed to the king having any say sat to the left.

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From the speaker's point of view, not their point of view. Another misnomer for a democracy.

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slacktoidreply
lemmy.ml

And the extreme left wants rights for everyone and ensure everyone has time to sleep and hobbies, and universal healthcare! Ugh the audacity I want to go bankrupt after a visit to the hospital goddammit, that is freedom.

They are clearly the same.

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pawb.social

Look, if I have to go bankrupt for visiting the hospital to make sure that all these "rainbow flag" groups can't corrupt our youth, that's what I'm going to do!

  • Conservatives, probably
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I will take the hit personally for my big beautiful country

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Porque la izquierda libera, la derecha oprime.

(We say "lefty loosey, righty tighty", but a similar rhyming phrase in Spanish translates to "the left liberates, the right oppresses")

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There is no such thing as stomach flu.

It's what people call gastroenteritis.

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lemmy.wtf

There are (oh so ironically) so many to choose from in Astronomy.

Planet for example, or Asteroid...

But seriously, it's in their name, that they name things, which, as the name's typically used, encompasses so much more... They name themselves as that which names stars, and they cannot even get naming themselves right...

Misnomers so normalised, many people don't even realise.

Nommy irony of astronomy.

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So aster means star and asteroid means star-like, right? I get that they're not stars, but lumps of stone and ice, but they burn when they pass by and appear to us as shooting stars, so star-like.

Or am I thinking of meteorites?
And what's the deal with planets? That they're not planar?

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