Seeing how all brexit negotioations revolved around ireland, why yes I think it is totally plausible that WW3 is started by some northern irish fisherman fishing a few kilometers too far south.
Are you implying that fiction written way in the past cannot accurately predict current events? What's next, no flying cars and public use hoverboards in 2015 (alright, they were actually pretty accurate with millionaire Biff Tannen)?
People here are talking like WW3 didn't already start. How long after Franz Ferdinand was shot did people decide that was the start of WW1/The Great War?
Most people who die in wars are civilians. Especially if WW3 goes nuclear, that would probably be most of them. However that is basically just nuking all major cities in China or so.
Committing to any real world dates was a fundamental misstep. They knew it was a bad idea from the start! That's the whole reason stardates were invented! But they couldn't help themselves.
Counterpoint: they should have just kept real world dates without worrying that they "didn't happen." We all know Star Trek is made up. Stop trying to reconcile it with real history.
Not my preference. Star Trek was made to be about our future, not the future of an alternate past.
SNW seems to have formalized the concept of a sliding timeline, attributed to temporal cold war shenanigans. I hate that justification, but the sliding timeline approach is probably the best one for how the franchise has developed. The Eugenics Wars are will happen 20 to 30 years from now... whenever now is.
Counterpoint to your counterpoint: we do not refer to BCE dates by the calendars of their time...the original date as it was referred to then may be documented, but everything from our time referencing them is converted to the BCE/CE scale.
And for good reason. Could you imagine if we still referred to events that happened > ~1400 years ago as "the harvest season of the second year of king Louie"?
As contemporaries of the stardate era, only a total nerd would know how people of a given historic era would refer to their calendar. Most people, assumedly, would have learned from resources scaled to a stardate calendar.
It's not the dating system I'm concerned about, I'm not bothered whether they use stardates or CE. I think it was unnecessary to adjust the Trek timeline in SNW because the 90s had passed and the Eugenics Wars hadn't happened.
i’m ok if the owning class suffers in the aftermath. maybe everyone gets one of those worms that crawls up your pee hole but all it does is hang out there and itches and complains about how tiny its new dick home is.
I always think we are cursed to be emotional creatures, who need to vent our deepest darkest urges so that we could emerge better than before. A lot of scholars think even if a major catastrophe happens in our lifetime, a new and better system usually emerges, just as it happened in history. The problem is, and I always say this, it will become worse before it gets better.
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Star Trek promised us Irish unification two years ago, so I'm not holding my breath
I guess this needs to happen for WW3 to start. Clearly.
Seeing how all brexit negotioations revolved around ireland, why yes I think it is totally plausible that WW3 is started by some northern irish fisherman fishing a few kilometers too far south.
Ah yes, the great Pollock aggression of 2026. 🎣⚠️☢️
they promised us lot of stuff....
https://hostux.pics/images/2026/04/29/2018-those-were-the-timesc30f22b41ed329a7.jpg
Are you implying that fiction written way in the past cannot accurately predict current events? What's next, no flying cars and public use hoverboards in 2015 (alright, they were actually pretty accurate with millionaire Biff Tannen)?
If I recall correctly... Star Trek said ... 2010, right? ... I probably don't recall correctly.
We already missed the Bell riots.
But we do (did) already have "Sanctuary Cities"
did we?
I see a bunch of warehouses burning...
maybe we're going to speed run everything in a few months until we get to WW3.
You got a source for that? That seems like a crazy number
Looking at figure 4, what the hell is happening in March?
Also, thanks for sending over the source
People here are talking like WW3 didn't already start. How long after Franz Ferdinand was shot did people decide that was the start of WW1/The Great War?
the ones in 1974?
On the plus side, the Vulcans then notice us and introduce themselves a couple of decades after the war ends.
C'mon ya green-blooded freaks! Do it early!
And here's how we'll be responding in this universe:
Dude, spoilers!
Over 600 million dead!
it's only 7% of earth current population. That's not bad right?
WW2 killed about 3% of the world’s population.
The ratio of wounded to dead is around 4 to 1.
Most people who die in wars are civilians. Especially if WW3 goes nuclear, that would probably be most of them. However that is basically just nuking all major cities in China or so.
I could easily see nukes being dropped on the US, albeit they'd mysteriously only target Blue states and historically Blue cities.
There's only like 5 red cities and they all have fewer than a million residents. So the blue city moniker basically just means large city
Does this include PTSD?
How about stubbing your toe?
No
Sooo 35% wounded or killed
The face you make when you learn trek lore predicts WW3 starts in 2026
Stop the world, I wanna get off.
For any non-trekkies still living in New Zealand...you may wish to relocate.
That's when you learn we're not in the Star Trek timeline, we're in the Gundam timeline.
And on the 250th bday of the US.
Waittt really?
The Simpsons is the real prognosticator of the modern world.
https://youtu.be/CQNimLCabPw
I love how all the explosions are timed to the percussion. Did Michael Bay direct this music video?
The drummer is just on point 😉
Meh, Ireland is supposed to be reunited by now.
I blame the temporal war.
Clearly Irish unification leads to Star Trek timeline equally as much as the forever war, and was easier to prevent.
Next year, I think.
Unfortunately:
Aha. My bad.
The Eugenics War and the 2nd American Civil War were supposed to preceded WWIII. When the Bell Riots didn't happen we changed the timeline.
But we missed the bell riots. We aren't in the federation universe. We're likely in the Teran universe.
One miiiiight argue that 2020 BLM protests count? In a way? Too early, granted.
A lot of sanctuary districts stuff going around then too, or whatever it was called.
Maybe everything that was supposed to happen in the Star Trek universe up to this point is all going happen all at once on December 31, 2026
TIHI
Dax was born in 2018.
The future seemed so far away back then
My non trill ass immediately though, but Jadzia isn't that old!
Committing to any real world dates was a fundamental misstep. They knew it was a bad idea from the start! That's the whole reason stardates were invented! But they couldn't help themselves.
Counterpoint: they should have just kept real world dates without worrying that they "didn't happen." We all know Star Trek is made up. Stop trying to reconcile it with real history.
Not my preference. Star Trek was made to be about our future, not the future of an alternate past.
SNW seems to have formalized the concept of a sliding timeline, attributed to temporal cold war shenanigans. I hate that justification, but the sliding timeline approach is probably the best one for how the franchise has developed. The Eugenics Wars are will happen 20 to 30 years from now... whenever now is.
Counterpoint to your counterpoint: we do not refer to BCE dates by the calendars of their time...the original date as it was referred to then may be documented, but everything from our time referencing them is converted to the BCE/CE scale.
And for good reason. Could you imagine if we still referred to events that happened > ~1400 years ago as "the harvest season of the second year of king Louie"?
As contemporaries of the stardate era, only a total nerd would know how people of a given historic era would refer to their calendar. Most people, assumedly, would have learned from resources scaled to a stardate calendar.
It's not the dating system I'm concerned about, I'm not bothered whether they use stardates or CE. I think it was unnecessary to adjust the Trek timeline in SNW because the 90s had passed and the Eugenics Wars hadn't happened.
Star Trek did the "Simpsons did it" before the simpsons was even conceptualized.
If they start giving out drugs to troops, I'm signing back up!
They were already doing this in WWII
Yeah, but we're not still fighting WW2, lol
As long as everyone is 100% instantly vaporized I'm cool with it. It'd suck if anyone had to suffer the aftermath.
Honestly, being in the Star Trek timeline would be worth it to die horribly. I don't even care at this point.
i’m ok if the owning class suffers in the aftermath. maybe everyone gets one of those worms that crawls up your pee hole but all it does is hang out there and itches and complains about how tiny its new dick home is.
If it starts in 2026 and goes on until 2053, then the one thing that can't happen is that everyone is 100% instantly vaporized.
https://youtu.be/frAEmhqdLFs
I always think we are cursed to be emotional creatures, who need to vent our deepest darkest urges so that we could emerge better than before. A lot of scholars think even if a major catastrophe happens in our lifetime, a new and better system usually emerges, just as it happened in history. The problem is, and I always say this, it will become worse before it gets better.
That was the original timeline. But after so many time travel, who knows?
I'm just going to drop "Bernie und Ert" for the fellow German speakers here ... it's on youtube. View at your own discretion.
Even as a swamp German I love them.
Aber Bernie, was hast du mit das ejaculat gemacht ?
I love the Dutch!
Would not surprise me even a little bit.
World war 3 will start in 2026 and end in 2026
I honestly doubt, that it would take that long. Nukes can end a war pretty quickly.
Nukes can fast-forward the world into a late-war environment in a couple of hours. But it's not actually known if they can end a war.
Unless you are talking about those "Earth's crust destroying" nukes. But no country has actually built those.
It's probably do a lot of surface damage in they weren't air burst nukes
Good job we can sublimate to even better than Star Trek.