If your child came out to you, how did you adjust?
One of my children is questioning their gender, and they seem at ease with non-binary. I found this out yesterday, so I'm approaching this gently, though I feel ill-prepared. I want to be who they need.
I'm curious about the experiences of other parents, or stories about your parents learning to adjust if you came out to them.
Follow-up: Thank you all so much for your stories and your feedback!
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Honestly, a little shocked. Only because I would be also be discovering that I'm a parent.
Funny! But not useful. Kind of a shame it's the top comment
People really don't know when its appropriate to joke around. I guess the [serious] tag thing, that is (was?) in use in /r/askreddit should be thing here as well.
Occasional jokes in a topic filled with mostly serious answers is not problematic, especially ones that aren't at the expense of anyone else. I think the joke was appropriate. Especially on a platform that is lucky to get 30+ comments on a post, it being top comment is not going to overshadow the others. Most people can read all of the comments in a few minutes anyway.
I've experienced the other side of this. I know my mother had a hard time at first, and for a while she was mourning me, which was weird to experience, but eventually she realized I'm still the same person and I'm just being more myself.
My best advice is to listen to them. My mother was very convinced it was a phase for years and wouldn't let me take hormones despite the very many times I tried to prove to her it's not. Eventually she agreed and after my first appointment she told me she'd never seen me that happy since I was a little kid.
(Not every trans person wants to medically transition and that's okay too. That's why I say to listen to them. They know what they want and have probably put a lot of thought into it already.)
Similar situation: I've switched from saying "daughter" and "sister" to "child" and sibling. I'm not perfect at it yet and it doesn't even appear that important to them, but I'm trying.
Most of us care. We might not react or cause drama, but even if your loved ones don't care much, you could make someone's day if they find out that you are a supportive parent that is trying to be sensitive.
It's not easy to switch pronouns after using one for so long, but, if you're trying, it'll show. Just be supportive and help how you are able.
My first born came out as gender fluid. It is not something i understand, but I was fully supportive of it.
You’re good people.
Mum of a trans daughter here.I just thought AHA that explains some things. I had long expected her to come out as gay, trans hadn't occurred to me. I support and love her best I can.It has been a pretty steep learning curve and trying to get her on various waiting lists was a nightmare.
But she is having her nose op today and Adams apple if all goes to plan (its the NHS,). I really do not care,she is my daughter and her happiness is the most important thing. I do worry a lot though,it is dangerous out there for her.
Trans and British? Damn, good luck to your daughter.
That's rough... I wouldn't want to be British
As a trans person i think I'd sooner transition from beign British than my gender
Yeah its getting a little iffy just the now what with Reform stirring up hate. Thanks though I will let her know.
Not my kid, but my best friends, and I babysit a lot.
Couple things you might not think about, or might overthink.
The biggest one for me was that I kept mis-gendering the kid for like a month, but I didnt realize that how I was reacting to doing so was worse than the misgendering itself.
Generally speaking, people understand that there is a transition period, you have thought of this person as a he or a her for their whole life, suddenly swapping pronouns isnt easy. If you get it wrong, thats ok, dont make a big production of it, just correct yourself, say sorry and try to do better.
I was making sure to really get across that I was sorry, and eventually I got told that it was stressing the kid out, because it was now a big thing that I got it wrong.
I learned, and they relaxed a lot when the next time I misgendered them, I just went "hes a good kid...sorry, shes a good kid" and that was that.
About 10 years ago I told my dad I was gay and living with the guy who's now my fiance. He just kinda went "ok" and changed the subject to where he was working construction nearby where I lived. Honestly, it sounds weird, but it really worked in the context of everything and our relationship. I couldn't imagine it being the sappy cliche just because of the type of guy he is.
He later met him and they get along great with each other to this day.
Not gay myself, but I imagine in my case this would be the best possible outcome. I'm picturing in my head as though his response would have been the same if you'd said, "Hey dad, I'm straight and living with a woman." I think my dad would be amazed that anyone could stand spending that much time with me 😂
That's how I read it and kinda how I see it. If my kid came out as gay, I'd have about the same reaction. Who we love is who we love and as long as the person isn't a complete tool or something, if they make my kid happy, that's what matters. I just hope I've instilled enough self respect into them to pick a good person irrespective of the state or lack thereof of dangly bits
That's lovely, thank you for sharing that.
I'm curious what adjustments are actually needed. why would tomorrow be different from today or yesterday? you'd still be their parent. just be happy they are who they are, nothing but a few words should be different imo. I've never gone through this but logically thinking about it, I see no reason for you to have to act, or treat them any differently then you do today.
I would like to think that it's as simple as acceptance, but they're so young, they didn't have a name for what they were feeling. They'll have to learn about sex, gender, and attraction from us. I also have to watch out for machismo baggage, social issues at school, and signs of distress. Part of the anxiousness is also not having support systems for this; we have no one to turn to in our family.
But certainly, acceptance is the primary, paramount focus.
If you have the resources, find a therapist that specializes in gender identity. A family therapist can support you and your child. With the popularity of online therapy, it is much easier to find the specific therapist you need.
There are also tons of parents groups that can offer community and help in your journey as you learn to support your child.
It’s really special that you are reaching out and doing all you can to be the parent they need.
https://www.genderspectrum.org/support-groups
You already have all the right concerns and considerations. Just go with the flow, your kin couldn't be in better hands
I have. Adjust seems like the wrong word.
Might as well ask, when your kid got married, how did you adjust.
If anyone is adjusting, it's them.
It's a stage of life. Just because some paths are not considered the default, that doesn't make the parent involved in some unique way.
I mean, that is an adjustment because something changed.
but it doesn't really change the parents life in any way, other then maybe an extra plate at the table and another face to talk too. the parents would still be living the same life. the change/adjustments are on the one changing, not the outsiders.
so long as you accept them for who they are, nothing needs to be done differently.
Queer parent with a queer kid here. I've been on both sides of this situation.
The best thing you can do is be openly and actively supportive of your child. Leave them with no doubt that you love them, you recognise them and are happy for them and that you will support them.
After that, just listen to what they need.
If you can do that, the rest doesn't matter. You will absolutely fuck up and say the wrong thing at some point. That's fine. It's inevitable. What's important isn't avoiding the situation, but how you respond after. If they know that you love them, that you're trying your best, and you can learn from your mistakes, that's what matters.
Your kid will tell you what they need, even if it's just the space to work out what they need. Just listen :)
"Hi gay, I'm dad"
When my daughter came out as gay to me I was so happy she'd fallen for her best friend. I love them both like daughters. Screw lazy men, they are so happy together.
When my son came out as a trans woman I was ecstatic that they'd realised what was making them so anxious and depressed, boobs suit her :) Just be supportive they need it so much. It doesn't change who they are, your child.
One of my close friends came out as gay to me in highschool and I said "I know? Everyone knows. Well, everyone except you, apparently." and nothing changed between us. I don't advise the first part of it, even if everyone did know, but the second applies - start using their new pronouns and otherwise continue on as normal. That's all they want, for their gender to be respected and to not be treated as different or strange for it.
One of my kids is non-binary and have been for mayve 6 years. I still get the pronouns wrong now and then but most of the time I succeed. Been a long way getting there, and a lot of help from my non-binary sibling who calls me out whenever I fail.
Did you love that baby before it was born and you knew its gender?
If so, what changed?
It's their journey that will change things, but my love will always be there.
When you get it wrong, which you will, just correct and move on. Make a separate acknowledgement that you will make mistakes but your intention is to get it right. Make those two separate things, don't make the moment of you getting it wrong the time you affirm your intent, keep them separated and they will both be more effective.
Also, ask them if they would like to go clothes shopping, in person or online, and support them in trying things that they have not yet been comfortable trying.
Being supportive isn't about perfection. It is about effort. Your effort shows your care and consideration which in turn show your love and regard. Be there, be involved as is wanted, and be willing to accept making a mistake as you learn together. That is worth more than any amount of perfection that cannot be provided. Remember, the effort is the display of love, messing it up is something that happens along the way, keep trying and things will work out.
Hi! My youngest is a trans guy, so at this point I am an older parent (mid 50s). They had to literally come out to me because my idea of acceptable womanhood is so wide the fact that they dressed like a 40 year old butch lesbian in high school did not make me think anything, nor the binder, both the youngest 2 do that and both prefer girls, so I just figured both were gay. It is funny he just figured I'd be happy, since I only spawned girls, to have one be a boy. You are right that kids are lasseiz-faire about it.
I did have definite anxiety around this, much more than the kids do, they just find it normal to choose. The state took away underage people's choice on hormones so there was enough time for me to feel more settled, and we talked a lot about the medical side. He is lucky in build, I am tall for a lady, with gentle not dramatic curves, a more androgynous build and he got that (my tallest kid! Only one taller than me!) so could pass before doing any hormones, it was less urgent than it might have been if he read more girly in body type.
Now he is 19, which puts it even more firmly in the territory of not my business.
You are most welcome to message me if you want to.
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I am cishet without experience here. This is what I would do. Might not be perfect, but most things is okay if there is lots of good intentions and love 😊
I would be honest. You are allowed to have feelings and be conflicted. You are however not allowed to make this about you. When talking about it, be careful and sensitive. Anger or denial should be suppressed. Talk to someone else if you feel that way. Your role is not to stop it, but to stay close and be loving. Do not ask too many questions about "Are you sure? Maybe its just a phase? etc". Your long term relationsship depends on how you handle it. Handling it perfectly is less important than showing lots of love and support.
"I support you and love you no matter what"
"i might not react or handle everything correctly, but want to learn and support you"
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Does this mean there might not get grandchildren? If so, that's a shame, but not the end of the world""I am unsure how I can help you make the right decisions for you going forward, is it okay if I suggest seeing a therapist to help you navigate this? Not to stop you, but just to help you find out what you need."
"You can talk to me about anything, I might not always understand, but will read about it and try to educate myself"
Edit: Grandchildren part is probably best to skip
Leave out the grandchildren bit, it's unnecessary, condescending, and presumptive. Grandchildren shouldn't be expected (unless a person has expressed a desire to have children) and is completely irrelevant for such a conversation.
I agree, updated the post
Tha k you for being a considerate ally
My reaction to other family/friends coming out: "Fuck yea!"
My reaction if my kids come out: "Fuck yea!"
I never would have come out to my parents. They would not have handled it well. Our kids have come out to us, and we've reassured them that it doesn't matter. We had kids to love them and raise awesome adults, no matter what.
My advice is to tell them that this takes time for you to adjust. Old habits are hard to break. One kid has been on HRT for over a year and eeeeeeeevery once in a while I'll call them their birth gender. Kids don't understand that we view them as a sum of all their life. They only view themselves in that instant. No matter that my trans kid is Gender A now, I still have sooooo many memories and pictures of them as Gender B, and I love that part of them, still. I love both periods of my kiddo's life.
I like this answer. My kid didn't have distress, really, and I'm glad. It made it oddly problematic because that's part of how they determine a kid is Legitimately Trans* here. I am A -OK with him being whoever he is, but yes I did love him as a little girl.
Cis-het with a dash of bi here.
When I was younger I was terrified I might be gay. Not because my parents would disown me but because of all the social hooblah it would bring my way.
However I feel like I'd be less worried about that today vs couple decades ago.
TLDR its nice that society has become more accepting.
Not at all. Im bisexual myself and have a gay nonbinary partner. Botz also very neruodivergent. Soooo it wouldnt be any change for us lol
But if you're looking for advice, dont do like my parents and do not aknowledge it at all. I did "silent outing" as in i just dropped hints here and there. And dont assume they are gay and then say "i know you're gay" while in a fighting argument with them. Ask them or even better just say "no matter who you're attracted to, we will always love you and be there for you".
The way I always saw it was "ok? If we are shifting names or pronouns, just let me know. If you need ideas I've got a few you can reject but other than that, it changes literally nothing. You are still you and if this makes you happy that's all I can ask for." At least that's what I generally mean. Usually I'll just say ok and ask if they're hungry or something
Sadly not all parents are like that :(
The world would be a better place if they were
Though funny enought without both our parents being bad, me and my partner wouldnt have met nore bonded :)
Love through trauma bond is a tale as old as time
Wouldn't care or even change anything. In Finnish hän is gender neutral anyway.
Only difference is I'd suggest they look into maybe going into a professional field that can research biological transition even better, so they can maybe discover a pill that lets them change sex all the way without surgery or something one. Never know.
In the meantime, I'd start to put aside a "trans surgery" fund for them.
my brother who I basically raised was gay/pan at first. his life/his call. now he's into fundie jesus shit but you know, same rule still applies.
his happiness is the goal above all else and my job is to not hold him back from that
Now we know where republican politicians come from!
https://youtu.be/wOuUy-HMSFs
Great example in my opinion.
Don't you basically only need to change the pronouns you use to ask about their Significant Other, and maybe change the "when are you going to have kids?" to "when are you going to adopt a kid?".
Or just skip that question all together. Your kid doesn't owe you grandkids.
Fair point
Could also be restated as "Your kid doesn't owe you a goddamn thing."
Nothing worse than "I need grandbabies" and "if you don't get a good job how are you going to take care of me when I'm old" in the same fucking Christmas dinner.
Our oldest tried transitioning pronouns when he was younger, but eventually realized that he is "a boy who likes girl stuff." We reverted his pronouns and he has been a he ever since. There's nothing special to do, just love them and do your best with any changes requested.
Wonder how the hell I got a kid in the first place
Told my wife she owed me 5 bucks from the bet.
To having a child? Not...well.
Gay (I'm including bi here)? Kinda 🤷 despite my background. There's no immorality nor ideological confusion/whim behind it: some guys just come out liking men, some girls just come out liking women.
Trans, NB and other "gender identities"? I would pray they grow out of it, that it's just a phase and not a casualty of the newest form of Western degeneracy/ideological degradation, and I'd feel like I failed a little (although I'd still know it's mostly the rotten, truth-denying culture I raised my kid in). I'll make an exception for effeminate sons and masculine daughters, as long as that's what you define yourself as (and you're not simultaneously denying but also aspiring to change sexual categories). And I'm just answering the question and being truthful here, not "hating", btw... I might be wrong in my understanding of things, after all.
I'd say "good luck, be strong", but it seems like you've got this. 👍
If you have kids, please read a book about gender. If you don't, please also read one.
That's really not the point. If someone steps on your foot, it still hurts, even if it was unintentional.
The entire notion of gender at this point means less than nothing... "sex" used to be the word and category we used and, since it still has some physical, objective feel to it, it's less used in current Western conversation. But if you're willing to recommend a book that says something and isn't just "aspirational" and based on nothing but wind and wishes, I'm open to it.
And I understand, of course this conversation will hurt at least one group of people because it puts into question their ideology, upon which they probably have built a whole identity and even taken some irreversible physical steps towards becoming who they feel they are... I didn't say it to "cover my ass" because I know how I feel, I said it to inform the LGBTQ+ folks here that they don't need to feel like yet another person hates them.
If your username didn't already give me pause, your reply here would have. Yikes.
What exactly do you think is so bizarre and shocking about either my username or my post? Try to see it from a non-European/Western perspective (around 90% of the world) that isn't limited to the last two decades.