It happened to a friend (with a pilot license I precise).
He was flying a small two seat aircraft and got contacted through the radio and for asked if he was ok to do a exercice with military aircraft.
He agreed so soon after two fighter jet arrived on his left and right. To be able to fly at the same speed as him they were almost standing vertically. They directed him for a bit without any radio contact, then thanked him through the radio and left.
They were doing a exercise to direct someone with no radio contact.
So you'll occasionally see two white lines perpendicular to the road at a set internal. A helicopter, drone, or plane can time when a car passes both of these lines and can calculate the average speed of the car.
This info is then relayed to a police car on the ground who then pulls over the driver.
Less likely to be noticed by drivers or alerts like on Waze. Probably a bit more costly though if they're using helicopters or planes instead of drones.
I don't know where op is from but a lot of states, especially in the western US require invasive species tags on any craft over a certain length, like 10 ft. Some also require state registration decals. Idaho is an example of one that takes the invasive species decals and water craft checkpoints very seriously.
Certain locales in CA are pretty big on it too. My local lake is huge on the decontamination thing and require certification on even small kayaks. They also like money too.
The first hint that something was amiss early Wednesday at the Westchester County Airport was the erratic motion of the low-flying Cessna. Confirmation came moments later when security workers approached the aircraft and beer cans fell out of the cabin as the pilot opened the door.
I'm actually a little curious how screwy bullets fly when they're shot perpendicular to a high speed. Door gunners on a chopper are the closest I can think of, but I'm not sure how accurate they are in general and I don't know how less a 7.62 round would lose course vs a 9mm.
Edit: The guns on an AC-130 or any comparable craft would probably be moving faster, but from my vast military knowledge of Call of Duty, I know that the rounds they fire are even larger.
It absolutely does. Airplanes were being shot down in Vietnam with an SKS firing 7.62 rounds. Now, the question at that point would be do you want someone lobbing bullets into the sky so they can fall back down and potentially hurt someone or damage something? Absolutely not. But it's not only possible, it has been done before.
Sounds about right tbh. My first medical processing (special issuance) took exactly 10 months. When I received it, I already had to go in for a reevaluation for the next year.
“ According to 49 U.S. Code § 46317, you cannot fly, or attempt to fly, an aircraft without the proper licensure. The penalty for violating this code can be substantial, with a maximum punishment of 3 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000.”
Eh not generally no. They'll follow and harass you until you're forced down or run out of fuel then they arrest you likely as a terrorist. Shooting people down is real high risk, does no one remember sky king?
How do they find out someone is unregistered? Like if one were to just start flying over fields in BFE Nebraska, everyone would just assume you're dusting crops.
If you’re unregistered chances are you don’t know what you’re doing. After enough people witness you do dumb shit, like violating restricted air space, then you immediately get the attention of the FAA.
Eventually you’ll have to land. They will find you pretty quick. If they don’t and you’re flying a registered air craft and they manage to snag your tail number then they are going to be on the owners ass immediately.
Hopefully for your sake you don’t know the owner because if they do they are turning your ass over real quick to save their own ass and license.
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The military doesn't like airspace violations much...
Doesn't really matter which country.
It happened to a friend (with a pilot license I precise).
He was flying a small two seat aircraft and got contacted through the radio and for asked if he was ok to do a exercice with military aircraft.
He agreed so soon after two fighter jet arrived on his left and right. To be able to fly at the same speed as him they were almost standing vertically. They directed him for a bit without any radio contact, then thanked him through the radio and left.
They were doing a exercise to direct someone with no radio contact.
Even if I knew the jets were exercising, I'd still be making diamonds.
I feel like this is the type of thing where as a passenger you'd be having the time of your life but the pilot? Shaved 10 years off lol.
It's kind of like driving beside a Police car. but the car is worth $1million easy.. (Assuming F-16s or trainers.)
I'm reminded of Mathias Rust. The guy is very lucky he wasn't shot down.
Holy shit. Yeah, he's incredibly lucky to not be a pink mist. Still did 14months of a 4 year sentence in a labour camp though.
You ever see those “Speed limit enforced by aircraft” signs? That’s the guy you gotta worry about.
That's what "©" means. In most states you are by natural law not allowed to be faster than the speed of light
I don't know of any where it's allowed but I didn't want to generalize since generalizations are always wrong. Always.
Physics is full of woke librul propaganda like “conservation of energy”.
In my state we obey the laws of alchemy.
Some states haven't adopted the most recent version of the laws of physics.
That version's kinda glitchy, TBH. It's better they don't update until it's been patched a bit more.
... of matter
That damned big governement and their rules smh
/s
Most of the times, yes
I never actually understood those. Do they actually have, like… a drone? Is it snapping a photo? How’s it all work?
So you'll occasionally see two white lines perpendicular to the road at a set internal. A helicopter, drone, or plane can time when a car passes both of these lines and can calculate the average speed of the car.
This info is then relayed to a police car on the ground who then pulls over the driver.
Why is that better than the police officer who was going to pull them over just using a speed gun?
shrugs
Less likely to be noticed by drivers or alerts like on Waze. Probably a bit more costly though if they're using helicopters or planes instead of drones.
It seems like if the purpose was stealth then they wouldn’t have a sign announcing it.
Deterrence. You never know when they might be monitoring you above, so watch your speed.
I drive through areas like this all the time for years. I have never heard of anyone actually getting a ticket from this.
Yes. With missiles.
in reality I think ATC will just wait 2 hours for you to run out of fuel and notify the local police for wherever you land
if you're headed towards the pentagon though they'll probably shoot you down
Wb sky nets
Or did I watch that movie wrong
Me when I launch my paddleboard without my permit. Who's gonna stop me? The water cops? (Yes, yes they will 😞)
Where do you live that you need a permit to paddleboard?
PA, as with kayaks I need a launch permit for the lakes and rivers.
Good grief.
I don't know where op is from but a lot of states, especially in the western US require invasive species tags on any craft over a certain length, like 10 ft. Some also require state registration decals. Idaho is an example of one that takes the invasive species decals and water craft checkpoints very seriously.
Certain locales in CA are pretty big on it too. My local lake is huge on the decontamination thing and require certification on even small kayaks. They also like money too.
yep. got a warning once for not having purchased a permit on my paddle board.
What goes up most come down
depends on how far up you go
Depends on how
far upfast you go. Reaching space doesn't mean you can stay there. You need orbital velocity.if i’m half a light year from earth i’m not going to be falling back down
If you get that far, it's because you moved fast.
maybe i teleported or found a wormhole
You probably have different problems that far out.
That thing is not gonna fly forever!
Not with that mindset
That's why I drink and fly. Who's ever heard of a FUI?
It's called a crash and burn
Well...
Yeah, about that...
Brazil - Days after a plane crash that killed father and son, a video of the father letting the son fly the plane while he drank beer went viral
Shoot the gas tank, I'm sure it'll come down sooner or later..
If a cop managed shoot the gas tank on a flying plane, I wouldn't even be mad if I died in that crash
The fuel tanks are in the wings on most planes, they're not that hard to hit.
I would love to see you hit a flying plane, anywhere on the body at all, with a 9mm
no man you don't get it, I could totally do it with a 22
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F22?
Did you know, other people have planes as well?
True story, I even found one out in the woods hunting blackberries.
And they make very difficult targets when they are flying over 80m/s and half a kilometer in the air
So wait until they either land or take off.
Come on dude, this is basic stuff.
The entire premise of this conversation was about a plane mid-air lmao
They're not hard targets when they fly right over your house. Hell, if anything, I had to time my antbed explosions away from the time they'd fly.
Wait, wtf are antbed explosions?
Just be in a flying plane at the exact same speed and acceleration so that in your reference frame it becomes easy
I'm actually a little curious how screwy bullets fly when they're shot perpendicular to a high speed. Door gunners on a chopper are the closest I can think of, but I'm not sure how accurate they are in general and I don't know how less a 7.62 round would lose course vs a 9mm.
Edit: The guns on an AC-130 or any comparable craft would probably be moving faster, but from my vast military knowledge of Call of Duty, I know that the rounds they fire are even larger.
Cops have a LOT of rifles, not just hand guns. 🤷♂️
That doesn't change the fact that you're not going to hit an object going 125mph at 9000'
It absolutely does. Airplanes were being shot down in Vietnam with an SKS firing 7.62 rounds. Now, the question at that point would be do you want someone lobbing bullets into the sky so they can fall back down and potentially hurt someone or damage something? Absolutely not. But it's not only possible, it has been done before.
The planes dropping napalm were flying low, not damn near 2 miles up.
You can think you're john wick all you want, it's not fucking happening
If I was standing right at the end of the runway I'd quite fancy my chances.
But what if the runway was a treadmill?
Wait, we can haz hamster treadmill powered planes?
Planes take off at a given air speed, not ground speed, so that wouldn't affect anything.
Did you not catch the reference, or are you dedicated to not having fun with this? 😆
I can't tell if you're joking or not
Oh I don't think it will be the police you need to worry about.
And I'm pretty sure even the smallest militaries have AA guns at this point.
You spelled drone wrong..
I mean, it's legal under faa part 103...
Yes, because nobody can make a thing that stabs the already volatile battery or anything like that...
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/advisory_circulars/index.cfm/go/document.information/documentID/22640
FAA still references the original policy document written 40 years ago on a word processor. Just wow.
Sounds about right tbh. My first medical processing (special issuance) took exactly 10 months. When I received it, I already had to go in for a reevaluation for the next year.
All fun and games until tower gives you a number to call.
They can pull you over to the next airport lr runway though, and not complying would result in the same situation as with a car lol.
I hear pit maneuvers on aircraft are a little more aggressive than a car.
“ According to 49 U.S. Code § 46317, you cannot fly, or attempt to fly, an aircraft without the proper licensure. The penalty for violating this code can be substantial, with a maximum punishment of 3 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000.”
https://www.skytough.com/post/fly-without-pilots-license
That’s a lot worse than getting pulled over with no driver’s license.
They'll shootcha down.
Eh not generally no. They'll follow and harass you until you're forced down or run out of fuel then they arrest you likely as a terrorist. Shooting people down is real high risk, does no one remember sky king?
I should have added, if they have to.
What goes up must come down.
There is a city in the sky apparently.
Repost. And no, they pull you down.
How do they find out someone is unregistered? Like if one were to just start flying over fields in BFE Nebraska, everyone would just assume you're dusting crops.
If you’re unregistered chances are you don’t know what you’re doing. After enough people witness you do dumb shit, like violating restricted air space, then you immediately get the attention of the FAA.
Eventually you’ll have to land. They will find you pretty quick. If they don’t and you’re flying a registered air craft and they manage to snag your tail number then they are going to be on the owners ass immediately.
Hopefully for your sake you don’t know the owner because if they do they are turning your ass over real quick to save their own ass and license.
Cool writeup, learned some new stuff thanks