J.D. Vance Speaks to Empty Arena at Turning Point USA Event
J.D. VanceVag was derailed by hecklers as well.
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Is that real? It looks empty enough to be a rehearsal or something.
They picked one of the most democratic leaning cities in Georgia. The surrounding rural areas are right leaning yes, but these people are terrified of cities and given the rise in gas costs would probably not want to spend the money to see Vance
The event was in that city because that's where UGA is, which is fat and away the most notable university in the state.
MAGA doesn't do martyrs so good. They're all sociopaths, and only care about themselves. Other people are only good for as long as they are useful, so once you're dead, your usefulness starts to end. There's a bit of utility in the time right after the death, but that soon fades. They've already forgotten about a Charlie Kirk, and that's exactly what's going to happen when Trump assumes room temperature.
Nowhere is this more manifest than Trump's obsession with what he can't have, loyalty.
He knows his only value is what he can provide for others and as soon as they get more utility elsewhere, they leave. This is also why he uses fear to prevent attrition, the deal they get for 'betrayal' must overwhelm their fear of Trump, which is dependent on his power to act on the threats, which is partly why he wants absolute power. As soon as that damn cracks and the first successful betrayal is visible, his followers will see him as powerless and begin scouting for offers to betray him as well and it all collapses. That is the exact scenario Trump fears most, the lack of power to keep people loyal. Either by offering them the most or by terrorizing them into obedience. Both can fail and inevitably, as his mind fails him and his incompetence reduces both the rewards and the ability to punish, both will fail.
Exactly. The way I see it, Trump has managed to act as a magnet for the 00's Fox audience. The people that were indoctrinated by Fox style tv and talk radio to feel heavy emotions around certain issues that made them into a powerful voting block. Trump snatched that from the classical GOP by acting as somewhat of an avatar of that feeling, more than they could ever be because they remained, well, attached to reality somewhat. He just went and said Obama wasn't a real US citizen and that Mexico had to pay for a wall and yeah that reaped success.
Any vague sense of a durable movement or 'loyalty' can go f itself because it's still all built on lies sold to a dying generation.
Vance can't envigorate these people against the horrible Obama (because they can't remember why those years were so horrible). He can't envigorate them against abortion or migration or something because that fizzled out.
So Trump managed to catch a wave and hold it past its due date, and now his hangers on are slowly seeing this. I hope the midterms come too early for them but rest assured that the extreme right in the US will come up with a new strategy for the coming decade.
So, what’s the next iteration of this playbook going to look like?
We're nearing a phase change. With luck, the next phase will involve guillotines.
You want me to predict the Republican strategy for the next decade?
Among the encounters Comey describes is a Jan. 27 dinner at the White House. He says that after Trump asked him if he wanted to remain as FBI director, the president declared: "I need loyalty. I expect loyalty."
Comey says he replied that he could offer his honesty, and that when Trump said he wanted "honest loyalty," Comey paused and said, "You will get that from me."
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/comey-congress-president-trump-told-need-loyalty
The "honest loyalty" always cracks me up.
What he really wants is servility.
They haven't forgotten, they're just at odds as to how to monetize it.
Holy crap!
They could have used our high school auditorium and still had open seats.
Honestly kind of more people than I expected. Who wants to listen to JD?
Ours too and I'm in a small town
I hope all the stadiums are empty during the world cup
Please clap.
Vance's security team is the secret service, no shot her team thinks it knows more then them. She's lying because she knows Vance is poison.
They had a good thing going, but he got limp when she wouldn't let him call her La-Z-Boy while doing the nasty.
Yes, but the same thing happened in the campaign and he and Trump still went on to win the election.
These "low turnout" events are nice, hilarious distractions from a country that STILL turned over the reins of power to these idiots.
The rally turnout doesn't matter. The schadenfreude doesn't matter.
What matters is when people show up to vote, and these empty arenas, like streets full of demonstrators after the fact, ultimately say WAY less about the US as a people than the victors of elections.
What matters is that we turn out to vote, that those votes are counted fairly, and the result of the vote isn't tampered with. And that, if there is any electoral fuckery, we string 'em up.
TP USA = Toilet Paper USA, because it's shit.
And all this time I thought it meant Theocratic Pigs.
Ah ah ah!
Holy shit, that's a seriously pathetic crowd.
"Crowd". Most were probably security detail
So maybe a few hundred deluded morons.
Remember when they got all butthurt and were threatening to throw us in jail because we were laughing and then it turned out that they shot their own guy?
What? Are you referring to Kirk getting shot by a different flavor of fascism for not liking Israel enough?
And then some rando falsely confessed to the shooting and got arrested. By the time they realized he wasn't the shooter they found child porn on his laptop and arrested him for that.....oh also the FBI couldn't start investigating as soon as they wanted because Kash Patel was using the FBI plane for personal use and they had to wait in the flight.
Man it was a pretty strange time.
They forgot to pay the people to show up.
Not even the MAGAt morons wanna watch that gross loser talk...
One could say that this is a turning point for his political career.
Erika saw the ticket sales and no-showed
Sales? Wasn't the event free?
It looks like they are Turning on MAGA
Fucking clickbait post title.
Dude I seen ska cover bands have better turn out than that, I’d call that pretty fucking empty
I'm pretty sure Corey Feldman has done bad Michael Jackson impressions in front of bigger crowds.
I just watched the video. That place was empty, lol.
What else do you expect from that renowned journalist "Martyn, our AI assistant".
That AI generated headline is more accurate than the slop OP came up with.
Under twenty-five percent capacity is way different than an empty arena.
Well, zero is still under 25% :-p
Seriously. What a dumb ass way to read about a tweet's analytics.
And yet Charlie Kirk remains silent on the matter. Curious.
What happened doesn't matter as much as the story you tell about what happened.
Ha-ha
This would be funny if it weren't real. Oh it's the oni...it's actually real? Are you fucking with me...this happened? I guess we're in for one thousand years of tribulation. Back to you...