Artemis II astronauts are struggling with Microsoft Outlook issues
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Why in the everliving fuck would NASA put ANYTHING Microsoft into a spacecraft?
Because Gates fucked Children with the President on Epstein’s Island…
It's almost as if this bullshit project was just pork barrelling for overpriced contracts.
Bro. Moon travel isn’t bullshit. It’s necessary to save the planet. We need to go colonize outer orbit on massive colonies. Let the planet heal.
The entire craft is built by giant US legacy corporations. Boeing, Lockheed, Northrop, etc. Microsoft is just one more in the pile.
Your laptop is built by "legacy corporations, " but if you put Linux on it, it works better.
I'm going to sound super stupid but w/e.
What happens to all your files when you install Linux?
It's just basically a GUI, right so does Linux create its own space and ignore what's there?
All operating systems we tend to use have filesystems. A filesystem is a methodology for writing data in a way that the OS can read. Windows included.
When you install a new OS, such as linux, you must choose how to allocate your disk space. You can use the whole disk - which would format and rewrite the system to be compatible with the flavor of linux you chose - or you can reallocate space on the drive if you have enough. This will move around the available free space, create the filesystem I just mentioned on that free space you designated, and leave your old windows files intact.
You can now interact with these from the Linux side with the right commands (mounting the windows partition and gaining access). You could even "dual boot," which would allow you to choose which OS you want to go to at startup.
I've HIGHLY simplified this since it's just a quick explanation, but that's the gist of it. There are obviously more scenarios, pitfalls, etc.
When I was first starting out in like 1996 or 1997, I was running FreeBSD 2.2.2. I accidentally wiped my system so many times that I stopped caring what got lost. It took me a while before I understood what the hell I was doing. Poring over man pages and instructions to figure it out.
Windows and Linux are like an operators in a warehouse. Windows knows some ways to store stuff and keep track of what is stores, Linux knows some ways too. Sometimes the way they store stuff overlaps, sometimes it doesn't. If you put Linux into a warehouse that Windows operated, by default, Linux will be able to find boxes and stuff, but the Windows operator has some small tricks up their sleeve to make it harder to put things back at the right place, remove boxes, or add new ones, and of course Windows has kept it a secret.
If you want to find all your boxes in a Windows warehouse and continue using the warehouse without being afraid of squishing a small box with a big one because the piece of paper Windows uses has some secret handwriting that was misinterpreted for "there's no box here", it's better to take out all the boxes, let Linux setup it's storage system, and then put the boxes back in.
So backup and restore into Linux what I can.
Correct
They are going to space to seed the cloud
It is a personal device
Personal devices running Outlook should be rapidly deorbited
You would think that Microsoft would be like this is going to space. Let's pull out all the stops. But no, it's the same corporate crap!
And of all things, an email client?? What the fuck are they doing?
Porn.
Astronauts sending each other dickpics confirmed!
I sometimes wonder if the Microsoft haters are in a bubble or if people who remember just how fucked up Microsoft was are just starting to age out at this point. I would like to think that Anyone who follows security related news and current tech news are also aware just how shit Microsoft is (and always was), but again, I migjt be very biased lol
Me, and the rest of the member of the various unix enthusit groups I belong to, would never ever ever want anything to do with Microsoft unless we are forced to use it for some stupid reason.
For all we know, there might have been one person high up in the chain of command that is not aware just how fucking bad Microsoft is.
I have a feeling a lot of people will be asking NASA a lot of questions about it, now that there is a huge spotlight on it.
I have a foot on both sides of the fence. I work with MS products for a living, doing all sorts of stuff with AD - ask me specifics if you actually want to know - but I run Linux at home. Arch on my laptop, a variant on my NAS, a very scaled down one thing on a terminal, and I started my whole computer world on FreeBSD 2.2.2 back in 1997.
People in NASA who do real work know. They're like everyone else. They just don't have clout. So, if a C-level dipshit says "We're using Outlook on the space ship," that's that.
Yes, I think we are on the same page on this one lol
@Isthisreddit It's incredible to me that NASA was stupid enough to ever trust MS, never mind anything as horrible as Outlook.
Space Force TV show continues to fulfill the prophecy.
Shame that show was cancelled 🫠
If only there were low-bandwidth, straight-forward, well tested email clients.....
They're on a 600Mbps connection, bandwidth isn't the problem.
Bro what do you mean the moon mission has faster internet than me? 😭
Probably also a different price range.
They're testing an optical communication system that will eventually give them 100+ Gbps (only 250ish Mbps for this mission)!
"NASA says they'll remotely connect to the computer to see what the problem is."
'Hello, this is your NASA certified Microsoft certied tech support, you need to send us gift cards to unblock your computer"
"WHY HAVE YOU REDEEM"
DOOOOO NOOOT REDEEEM!
Kitboga is the best
"The soul called Mr Barrister John Warosa" intensifies
Also known as "nominal outlook performance"
It seems you have problems with running your multi billion dollar rocket. Would you like me to help you with that?
100 billion dollar budget.
Imagine being literally off the planet and still be expected to check your work email.
I mean if you are on a work trip it is pretty standard
Gotta submit their timesheets.
Wednesday: 24 hours space travel
Thursday: 24 hours space travel
Ahh, gotta remember to submit the fuel receipts
Sorry boss, went a bit over on fuel costs this trip. If I need to chip in a few hundred million from my personal account, I can make it work.
You would think that the absolute basic, minimum requirement for taking something on a space mission is that it complies with open standards.
If you have standards compliant programs, it's easy to set up a back-up client in case the primary doesn't work. If your email is "Outlook" and you are tied to the outlook server and something breaks, there's your single point of failure. Sucks to be you.
What if the problem is server side
What if the problem is DNS
That's impossible. They don't even have that in space.
I looked it up and apparently: is it DNS
There I go getting the Narrator: It was treatment!
Why not? Friggin' surrounded by internet satellites up there, their ping times must be in the minuses
Yeah I bet there is absolutely DNS in space, but that didn't fit the joke, lol.
Mfw my addition to the bit was too camouflaged
Why not, aren't they also handling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timekeeping_on_the_Moon
DNS would be the same logic. Maybe we should even have some higher levels than before. Name.country.moon.planet.star.
Haha yeah, I use outlook at work as a webpage in LibreWolf in Linux, so even with open stuff on my local hardware I can definitely still have outlook issues.
It's easy to set up high-availability for servers running on the ground.
Easy?
And all problems are solved by high availability?
The rare occasion when "It's not rocket science!" means it's harder.
Wtf do they need email for in space
In space, no one can hear you call tech support.
Who the f permits taking unverified software on a space trip?
This is just… so perfectly emblematic of where we are as a society.
Why would you not use internal NASA programmed software? Oh wait, we're beyond that now, we just ask Claude to vomit up a mess from its exabytes of source code and vibe our way to the Moon!!!
Is NASA using Claude? It makes me shudder to think that people are developing mission critical (literally, not that corpo bullshit) software using LLMs.
they rely on microsoft?!?
holy shit, and here i thought the job is dangerous as is.
Can you imagine if Copilot fucks up the mission
ai and microsoft. it's like a entshittyfication bingo. chivers down my spine.
They say Microslop CoPilot is already on the case.
This made me laugh harder than I expected.
The best part is there was literally an MS service outage just this afternoon. Email was seemingly flowing but admin portal was fucked and returned nothing but "service unavailable".
Let this be a lesson about putting windows OS on space equipment.
Let this be a lesson about putting it anywhere.
See? They're just like us!
Microsoft, because sucking only on one planet isn't enough..
Microsoft has always been questionable at best but ever since Steve Ballmer left, is been incredibly shit.
What a surprise. Microslop
The Apollo 13 movie sequel will be wild...
Trying to imagine Jim Lovell's reaction when Apollo 13 blue-screens and has to reboot. What an amateurish shitshow NASA has become.
"Id love to, you know, land on the moon, but unfortunately it can't verify my license with the server so most of the functionality is locked out. Did you guys forget to pay the sub again this month?"
User : "Houston, we've had a problem! There's an electrical outage and CO2 is accumulating, what should I do?"
ChatGPT: "Just open the windows!"
screw outlook? WTF where is thunderbird when you need it.
I've been using Evolution mail client, it seems to work well for outlook accounts if you enable IMAP access in the outlook account. I have to be able to get my work emails at home.
embarrassing.
So they're not only using Microslop in offices, but also on space missions...? Gee, I wonder why they've been failing to return to the Moon for 50 years...
Have they tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Shoulda installed Thunderbird
Don't worry, the Microsoft
spywaretelemetry will tell them what went wrong.I never would have thought that astronauts could be so relatable.
I give them a 45% chance of coming back
They need to open the event viewer now, which takes 2 minutes.
Maybe someone should introduce them to PINE and SMTP and MIME.
TCP/IP?
... it would be pretty
funnymagnificent if the engineers would (have to) talk them through how to deMicroSlop themselves & install foss OS & foss apps.They have more than enough time.
I miss BlackBerry
Having a hardware solution to a problem doesn't mean you had a hardware problem. You might have had a software problem that could be solved with hardware.
Basic example: I had an issue with the controls in a game, where I kept accidentally pressing the Windows key which swapped me to a different view. I'd say having the OS swap programs is a software problem.
My solution was to remove that keycap so I'd stop pressing it. The "proper" solution was some esoteric key press combination that disabled the Windows key.