Should there be a rule against removing credits?
As the title.
Should there be a new rule added where intentional removal of credits and watermarks from other peoples works be deleted?
Only thing i can think against it is if the original artist isn't known. Usually someone in the comments finds it though
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Already discussed yesterday
https://lemmy.world/post/44948340 with 1,200 votes.
and OP didn't credit it 👀
This has got to be peak irony.
Ha I hadnt even noticed! I saw so many uncredited posts recently I didnt think it was already discussed. Obviously didn't bother searching either. My mistake xD
Tbf I didnt even post this for credit. I just wanted to kickstart a discussion but looks like its already got traction on the other post so im happy
Yikes! I caught myself making the assumption that this was an "official" mod's post in response to the existing discussion...
From what I understand there's only one mod here, and they have been MIA for awhile. It's unlikely we are going to see an official mod response.
Imo anyone caught removing credits should get banned
He was active a few weeks ago. Maybe he is on vacation or something. Relax.
My Cincinnati instance has like 5 mods and maybe 4 active users
Clearly the mods all vacation in Cincinnati.
Is there another community that is moderated? I would step up but I'm definitely not the person to ask
There's [email protected]
Thanks!
Yes, absolutely.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes. Unfortunately, proving intentionality in smaller cases than beep may be difficult. But it's useful as something to lean back on when it's obvious/egregious like their case.
First step would be enforcing the existing rules lime two posts per day per user, imo.
Just say that if it doesn’t have a watermark the poster has to provide a link to the original.
That's perfectly logical, and I agree entirely.
The issue lies in the problem user OP is trying to address with this rule. Beep has stated that they won't consistently attribute sources until the community implements the rule they want enforcing that users strip attribution out of the image itself: https://lemmus.org/comment/17161116
Hooray dumb internet drama!
I think that deliberately removing credits should be against the rules but if they try to link back to the artist to give attribution in the event that the comic has already had attribution removed I would be okay with that so long as the rest of the work is intact. The individual who's been shown to be using AI to remove watermarks and artist signatures really ought to receive a suspension or something both for their ridiculous post rate (far exceeding the new rule about 2 posts per day), and also because they admit to removing attibution on purpose.
I have strong opinions on the matter
I actually think it's morally correct to strip stone toss or Scott Adam's names from thier works.
Or just don't post them to begin with
I don't think it's morally correct to remove their names. People have the right to know who the artist is.
There's the old question, can you separate the art from the artist? Everyone is going to have a different opinion, and for those that say no; sharing a comic without saying who it's from doesn't allow them to decide "that's a Scott Adams comic, fuck that guy".
Because we as a community, value this.
Is your name "a community"? I for one don't care either way. I can always ask an OP if I want to know who created a strip I liked if a signature is missing.
That's why this post has been made to effectively poll the community
Yes, I solely represent the entire community and we all agree on this topic.
Or, and this is even crazier, I saw the many threads where Beep was downvoted to shit and berated because of this, and I'm able to summarize that information.
But no, that can't be right because it means you're not the center of the universe. It must be that first one.
According to you, it is yourself who is the centre. Go figure 🙄
I'm not sure that aggregating other people's data and then summarizing it counts as me being self-centered. But maybe I just don't understand how that word works.
Nope, you moron. Introducing your own views as "we as community" however does.
"Only rules that make it more fun are allowed!" Ok toddler-elected-mayor, good luck with that shit.
Good one, how'd you think of such a pithy rejoinder? I'm serious, just fully baffled over here...