Spain says it has closed its airspace to US planes involved in the Iran war
Spain has closed its airspace to U.S. planes involved in the Iran war, Defense Minister Margarita Robles said Monday, marking another step in the country’s opposition to the U.S. and Israel’s conflict in the Middle East.
Spain had already said the U.S. could not use jointly operated military bases in the Iran conflict, which Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has described as illegal, reckless and unjust.
Defense Minister Robles said Monday the same logic applied to the use of Spanish airspace in the conflict.
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This is how you do it, rest of the EU countries. Or you're complicit.
Right!? This is a telling moment for countries.
People hate on Iran but do they really know what it's like to get shit on? It's the word of privileged assholes vs the word of the people their culture took a massive shit on.
I can't say I know much about irans history though.
Their message of "One Vengeance For All" is righteous.
This morning I was thinking of a metaphor. America is like the school shooter (literally), regular citizens are like the victims, and Iran is like the the person that plugs the shooter. The countries (and citizens) that aren't doing anything towards Israel and USA are like the uvalde police.
Iran is on point. People that think they are acting too heartless never saw the shit end of the stick held by western nations or even just regular criminals. Across the globe the last straw as been pulled, regardless of race, nationality, culture. People are reaching the time of "by any means necessary" with the acknowledgement that sacrifices will need to be made and that the goal for a better world is worth more than their own lives.
Live for humanity. Die for humanity.
No one is shitting on the Iranian people, though. It's the government they're shitting on.
It's like how we can shit on the Israeli government without shitting on Jews.
Idk I feel like western culture shits on humanity in general. Like it's engrained in the culture and lifestyles but everyone is too privileged to even understand.
If people actually want change, it's something bigger than simply the governments.
It's not just the right, maga, and trump that are the enemies of humanity etc... it's our lifestyles and culture of arrogance. People need to take a long hard look and see themselves in the chaos and how they help support it.
It feels like genuine humanity is being lost more and more every day. There's no authenticity. It's like everyone is less human and more just a cog in the machine that ruins the gift of life. Like there's no soul in people, just a spirit of consumerism and partnership of detachment from honest reality. I feel like that culture is like the zombies in the zombie movies. They are dead inside simply consuming and funding a fake world.
It's definitely not just western culture. It's because humans are fundamentally tribalistic animals.
That's why it's so easy for evil people to gain power. They prey on that tribalism.
I feel the need to point out that western culture as such doesn't really exist. It's the same as saying 'Asian Culture'. It's way too broad of a descriptor to be able to judge it the way you do. US culture differs quite a lot from European cultures for example.
And what you are describing is true for a lot of cultures/countries that aren't 'western'. Consumerism is a global phenomenon.
Yeah, but he also rapes his infant daughter and murdered his son because he was gay
Chapelle made a show around this joke
"War on Terror" sounded pretty righteous too. I'm glad you noted you haven't read much on Iran. Please do at least catch up on the last 50 years or so. It's a fascinating tale involving western meddling, a dynamic and multifaceted people/culture, and a genuinely oppressive regime that funds many regional militant groups.
Agree. Unfortunately we have a cuck for PM here in Sweden right now..
same in Australia but is ever been thus for decades, last non cuck was about '72
Our last good one got shot 1986.
I mean, just look at our current PM during NATO negations with Erdogan in Turkey. Embarrassing doesn't begin to describe it.
And it's so bloody frustrating!!! Not only have the Americans got us by the jugular, the Zionists have as well.
Spain is now a shining beacon of goodness in a world gone bad.
They're based af nowadays
That's so fetch
They could be more based and let Catalonia go.
The whole Catalonia thing is very complex, but catalán politicians waving the flag to manipulate the population plays a major part.
Right now the support for independence is at around 32%.
Doing a Brexit (Catalexit?)is throughly idiotic on a simple majority basis.
Weird how every time the region tries to be more autonomous they're violently opposed by right-wing authoritarians and that has short-term impacts on morale.
That's why the right-wingers of PP and Vox are frothing at the mouth and pushing their corporate media mercenaries to lie extra hard about it all.
I would argue taking a month to close airspace after a school got bombed on day 1 doesn't really make you shine of goodness
Italy for this cycle elected our first female prime minister. She's a fascist.
UK did something similar back in the late 70s
The elected official (PM) is a man. The defense minister (not elected, assigned by the PM) is a woman.
Maybe... You never know.
Spain never had a woman PM.
Are they only around in the morning?
Yes, PM is siesta time.
Spain seems cool
You trying to be funny, hombre?
True story: When France did that during the Iraq War, the Congressional Cafeteria changed the name of French Fries to Freedom Fries.
So I guess we'll be seeing Freedom Rice in the cafeteria.
I remember when I thought that was the dumbest possible thing that could come from US politics.
It was a more innocent time.
The word fiancé is French so I had to refer to my wife as my freedom partner before we got married.
You couldn't waterboard that cringe out of me
Ill have the freedom paella plz
Freedom rice in wine?
Is Freedom Rice, is that the new white rice that POTUS wants?
Frankly, it was the only food I could think of with Spanish in the name. I suppose I could have gone with the Freedom Flu.
That flu didn’t even originate from Spain. It was just the first country that reported it to the mass media first.
Orange rice.
I have a restaurant near me that still calls them Freedom Fries. I do not go their much but their club sandwich is amazing.
Who would have thought alienating your allies then starting a war without consulting your allies would result in your allies not wanting to get dragged into said war.
Fascinating stuff, write that down. We might want to study this "don't be a dick and blindside your allies" concept later.
Pfft, it's not like history repeats itself or anything.
Has nothing to do with that, the rest of the west simply can't do nothing about Iran militarly and is assisting the usa with non comabative actions like providing inteligence, uk allowing the use of it's bases, implementing more sanctions on Iran to make it harder for iran to defend itself
It's not unclear, quite the opposite. The west has no need to get involved in the Epstein war.
Good move.
Damn. Spain knows how to do it.
Well if they want to stop relying on US for protection, they better step up their defence budget.
"Protection". The US used europe to project it's power, don't get it twisted.
The US is not a reliable partner. If anything, the US can be relied upon to be unreliable. An empire in decline.
Better to rack up drone and nuke production, join other defense treaties without such ridiculous demands based on outdated tech and be done with it. Sayonara USA.
US and reliability in one sentence. Find the error.
Spain can protect itself pretty decently.
lol
lmao, even.
I'm not even going to explain myself, I think the majority understand already.
everyone liked that
Well, at least one country has enough decency to save our european honor by opposing the oil bully. Macron is such a little whore, he would never oppose even the pedophilest of american president cunts
I mean why would you allow what amounts to an enemy to use your air space for their war against someone else?
This dude can't read a treaty. NATO doesn't need to step in for defensive wars.
NATO went along with the whole GWoT, fuck off Marco.
On the contrary. Nato has to step in in defensive wars. This is an offensive war.
Right yeah whoops
Someone has enough spine to tell the bully the truth! 😍
Good but don't get fooled by politicians, USA and israel bombed a school on day 1, they waited till now to close airspace. The government is probably just trying to save their ass as most people in europe are pissed with the conflict.
You are getting downvoted, but you are not all that wrong.
Sanchez is a pure politician, a party rat, devoid of any true conviction. The Spanish people are against the war, and generally pro Palestine, and he's just milking that for support.