Spyke
lemmy.world

Italy and France are the worst. They LOVE their protectionists pretentious screeching about how you're enjoying life wrong.

Japan was very cool with the hybrid food and traditions.

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lemmy.world

Because of the fact that immigrants from Naples, the city state, came to the US in the mid to late 1800s, it is entirely probable that American Pizza predates the country of Italy.

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midwest.social

It does, the modern Italian Republic was created after WW2 from the territory of the Kingdom of Italy.

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theolodisreply
feddit.org

But the Kingdom of Italy was also the country of Italy?

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midwest.social

So when the entire style of government and bureaucracy is dissolved you think the country continues?

I think you don't know the difference between a country and the social construct that is known as a nation.

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schnurritoreply
discuss.tchncs.de

So when the entire style of government and bureaucracy is dissolved you think the country continues?

Yes, normally as long as there is legal continuity, countries retain their identity through changes of systems of government.

For example today's Germany is generally considered to be the same country as the North German confederation founded in the 19th century.

Likewise the end of communism in Eastern Europe didn't cause Bulgaria, Poland, or Hungary to cease existing, just change their form of government.

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I think Japanese would be mildly amused and try it. Mac and cheese is certainly at least somewhat known here and I don't think most would even consider that sushi; just weird, room-temp cheesey macaroni salad wrapped in seaweed.

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lemmy.world

Spam musubi is one thing.

Putting this on the same level as spam musubi is an insult to spam musubi.

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When I was in Hawaii I went to a "barbecue" place that served general tso's chicken with a side of green beans, mac & cheese, and mashed potatoes. There was no pork or barbecue sauce.

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lemmy.world

I hate this food gatekeeping.

This is REAL food, enjoyed by REAL food enjoyers:

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feddit.it

I'm Italian and I would try this. Also, fudge those "purists" of Italian food: every family has it's own recipe for everything different from their neighbors', there's no or little historical documents about dishes still served and most "based" Italian food was invented by Italian emigrants coming back home with inspiration from where they were.

Cuisine is mixing and experimenting, tradition is the death of good food.

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BigFigreply
lemmy.world

You're allowed to use bad words on the Internet

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Thanks! I'm using too many of those IRL, plus I couldn't miss the opportunity to use "fudge" in a culinary context 😁

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My Italian coworker at my old job was a big fan of pineapple on pizza. The ones who screech the loudest about people "doing it wrong" are normally a minority and suffer from insecurity and lack of knowledge.

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lemmy.today

Wait. Italians claim Mac and cheese?

I always thought it was an American thing. Because Americans love pouring cheese over everything.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

No, the part about Thomas Jefferson is accurate, but his chef thought it was a take on French cuisine. Turns out it's descended from English casseroles.

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The chef was also his half-brother in-law, and the brother of Tommy's teenage mistress

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Thomas Jefferson was obsessed with Macaroni, and created the dish that modern day mac and cheese is based on. He served it at a ton of White House dinners. He also was the person responsible for shipping macaroni extruding machines from Italy to the US while he was a diplomat over there.

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Bakkodareply
lemmy.world

I think pasta is the victim here which still doesn't really track perfectly but it's a start lol

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Pat_Riotreply
lemmy.today

Pasta comes from China. Fuck what Italy thinks about it.

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Fun fact: Canadians actually eat 55% more boxes of Kraft dinner (mac & cheese) per capita than US. We love that shit for some reason (well, I know why actually it's cause it's delicious).

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Italians: Macaroni? Never meet the guy.

French: Non, c'est pas nous. And, ah, stop suggesting it iz oos.

English: Mate, cheddar 'n' butter mixed into pasta's onna da finest fings we ever doone. This is our proudest moment :''3

Japanese: Accurate.

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quokk.au

I thought the japanese dude was a dog.

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Seriously, why is one of the things that makes Canadians go "CANADA FUCK YEAAAA" the processed, prepackaged version of a British-invented, American-associated dish, that isn't legally allowed to be called what it's supposed to be in Canada?

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Three I'm American and this makes me want to vomit up everything I've ever eaten in my entire lifetime in one huge gigabarf.

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