Trump Demands Death Penalty for Reporters in Unhinged War Rant
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If not dictator why dictator shaped
If not a dictatorship why PDF file shaped
I prefer my autocrats in .txt
but seriously why are we censoring "pedophile" here?
I self censored for no reason really.
I think I’ve written the word pedophile too much lately and wanted to mix things up a bit.
Why does acrobat support PDF files?
They're in the files...
Did you find it in the PDF aisle?
Oh, I thought you were legitimately opposed to PDF files, I guess they are not as bad at the eps files.
I’ve always had issues with PDF files on Windows. I do not want Acrobat Reader!
if it walks like a dictator, quacks like a dictator, and shits its pants like a dictator…
Sounds like a shitty dictator...
I see the war is going well
What with his daughter no longer around to change him every 2 hours, this term has taken a turn for the worse.
When will Walmart Hitler just fucking die?
When will Americans exercise their rights and force him out of office instead of waiting for luck?
Americans don't exercise.
Don't worry. They're sending hopes and prayers.
So nothing then. Lol
HOPES AND PRAYERS
He's way past expiration date
At the worst possible time and not a moment before or after.
Oh right. The "liberal news media." The one that's owned by six billionaires. The one that sucks up to Trump constantly. The one that's constantly doing. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ in response to Trump's demented bullshit. THAT liberal news media.
Sorry about the loss of your arm. :(
His mom is there to help
Yeah, but his other arm is fine, so… it's definitely a choice in this case. lol
Another victim of the liberal news media!
Sorry to burst your bubble but Liberals ARE right wingers.
Sorry but that's incorrect.
It just means privately owned in this context.
You are privately owned
Someone just needs to shop Trump's face on this pic
Ask an ye shall receive.
Can I have a Pony?
Here ya go!
Idk why, but the pony escorting trump?
I gotcha bud.
Can you give him a MAGA diaper (like the hat)
So I listened to it and heard nothing about death penalties for reporters. Am I missing something?
Quoting Trump's post, the nugget of truth is from:
Which they turned into "Demands Death Penalty" because DailyBeast is a tabloid.
TBH I'm sick of DailyBeast and Rawstory showing up in my Lemmy feed. I'd argue they violate this community's "credible sources" rule.
Yeah no, the president saying people should be charged with something thats punishment is death or life in prison is exactly that.. saying those journalists should be put to death or life in prison for what they have written.
It’s tough, because I don’t want to give him or the American justice system the benefit of the doubt, but I really hate the misrepresentation of this in the media. Charging someone with treason doesn’t mean they’ll be imprisoned or executed, it means they’ll be put on trial. If this story had addressed the potential for the president to bias the country against these reporters by calling personally for them to be charged with treason, I would be a lot less annoyed by the headline, but it’s inaccurate and they didn’t put any actual investigation into this piece.
It might be splitting hairs, but I really do wish for exhaustive Nuremberg style trials when I call this regime criminal, treasonous, and genocidal. I wouldn’t mourn if a few of them didn’t make it to trial, but I don’t want them to be able to take their secrets to the grave en masse.
I don’t think you’re splitting hair; you’re being consistent in your values, and journalistic integrity matters more to you than having your biais confirmed.
It doesn’t matter whether the target of this article is the best person in the world or the worst person in the world, their words are not being reported accurately.
I loathe everything Donald Trump stands for, but that doesn’t mean it’s okay to misrepresent what he says like that for engagement. There are more than enough appalling things the man does and says on a daily basis to not go that low.
Like someone above wrote, I don’t think daily beast articles have their place here.
No, they are just blind to context. It's Trump. He is threatening a treason charge precisely because it carries a potential death penalty. He knows that, that's why he's making the threat, and he is vindictive enough to abuse the legal system to make an example of some poor scribbler.
You saying something carries a potential death penalty and the articles writing he DEMANDS DEATH PENALTY do not seem to me like the same thing. Blind to context or unbiased, you choose how to call it.
well that's true but also the penalty for treason is the death penalty
Or imprisonment.
Point is, that's not what the quote directly said. And that's what distinguishes journalism, and tabloids like DailyBeast (or talking heads/"analysis" like Fox News). Hence, every actual news outlet on this topic went with a factual headline, and quoted Trump directly instead of making a jump.
This distinction is very important to me. Ragebait like DailyBeast is why Trump is in power and the world sucks now, because it works.
I get your point, but the president saying people should get life in prison if not killed for their 1st amendment right which he swore and oath to uphold would be an absolute reason for an immediate impeachment to most.
@LifeInMultipleChoice @brucethemoose However you choose to interpret it or feel about it, it is not factual reporting. You either care about that or you don't.
Precisely.
No, that was bigotry, racism, billionaire-controlled media, voter suppression and foreign interference. The Daily Beast's influence is lost in the noise compared to those factors.
And how likely do you really think it is that Trump would direct the captive, corrupt DoJ to exercise leniency? It's like someone is waving a gun in someone else's face and you're saying "well, ackshually, we don't really know if he intends to use it to intimidate or shoot that guy." And the gunman is a known sadist who places no value on human life.
I'll support that motion.
I'm sorry but I've seen plenty of people lose their jobs and get a visit from SS because they mentioned Trump's actions were treasonous. Which someone then interpreted as death threats. One side doesn't get to point fingers and then play coy when they do it themselves.
So because one side plays loose with truth, you accept false reporting from supposed journalists?
That's certainly a choice.
It's not false
Try this: don't click the link.
And there's a chain of reasoning that makes the headline more than bullshit: Trump is demanding journalists be put on trial for treason, which has a maximum penalty of death. Trump is a long-time advocate of brutal and excessive punishment for anyone not on his good side. The leadership at DoJ are all Trump syophants who take their direction from him. Ergo, any journalist who pisses off Trump is likely to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, if not beyond.
Short version: Trump was threatening journalists with the death penalty.
Additional research: the Central Park Five, where Trump demanded their execution even after they were conclusively exonerated.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if Trump shouted "I'm going to execute you!" at the top of his lungs while throwing a baby out the window, on film, in front of a million people; if the headline makes inferred jumps and sensationalizes the event, it is not a news article. Its opinion/talk or whatever label you want to call it.
And that is exactly why we're here. Trump is a troll that thrives on tabloid journalism; everything that's even a little exaggerated is just feeding him. It's why he's there. And I am very sensitive to the idea that "it's really news because its true with these conditions and aligns with my beliefs" because thats the core operating mode of MAGA.
Is there a transcript? I’m not exactly sure which unhinged rant I’m looking for.
The source is a Truth Social post:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116235861005528220
::: spoiler click to expand full quote:
Oh I just realised that the article itself is paywalled and the audio recording was unrelated
As if starving and murdering detainees in ICE concentration camps weren't enough.
What a motherfucker.
Shitty article from a shitty source. In fairness, about a shitty President.
Of course Bill Clinton was one of the best ones, but who is counting THE LAST OK DECADE (90's). Everything was horrible after that. Everyone who was an adult in 2000 knows everything turned to poop.
You're not wrong. The SCROTUS deciding the 2000 election was an early warning sign, then 9/11 came and it just kept getting worse from there.
Death penalty to HIM
Midterms ... Impeachment ... then Prison or LEGAL execution upon conviction. Can't say Im spouting threats or violence for that.
Long as him and his enablers are out and unable to return, it makes no real difference to me how its done
You gotta realize none of that will ever happen because the Democrats lack the political will to even make a serious attempt.
And that right there is part of the problem. They want to do nothing, so if we tell them that we expect them to do nothing, they will.
But if we hand them the House AND the Senate in the Midterms, there will be a whole crop of new Dems on Congress who didn't work hard to get there to do nothing. They will wamt to shake things up, and we have to let Congress know that we do NOT expect business as usual. These are unprecedented times, and they require unprecedented solutions. That starts with replacing the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries, right out of the gate. The Dems will NEVER beat MAGA decisively with those two losers at the helm.
If we hand them the votes, and the investigative committees, then they better use them, or they will be replaced in the next election, and face the same righteous wrath of the citizens that MAGA will face.
Can we stop calling for anyone to die?
Not as long as theyre calling for us to die, no
I'm pretty sure the reporters have not called for Trump to die and it's obvious why he shouldn't be talking like that.
Maybe straight up no one should be talking like that.
Of course they won't. His symps own all of them so they have to toe the line
Spineless
Threatening people is not brave.
Spineless
Uses the word treason quite lightly for someone committing it on a daily basis
I'll take "what was J6?" for a thousand
Caesar Augustus for president 2028! Kill the swamp
God can’t exist. He just can’t. Because why would he let this pestilence live on, especially with three lifetimes’ worth of KFC and McCrap in his arteries?
Maybe God just loves us like a gardener loves plants. Right now looking at the garden and being like "oh no... This is a real mess. It would probably be easier to start over... But I've spent so much time on them, let's give them a chance to pull through if I leave it for a while"
The guy who launched a violent Insurrection, and stole hundreds of classified documents to sell, might want to keep his mouth shut about Treason. Glass houses and throwing rocks and whatnot.
Iran does have sea drones, and they have made giant holes in tankers at sea level with them. Iraq claimed that 2 of them were used to turn 2 real tankers into 2 giant fireballs in their harbour. I have seen AI of 20 simultaneous missiles hitting downtown Tel Aviv, but a bigger problem than AI on Israel is that Israel is criminalizing the sharing of strike information, with selective permission after for whining about civilian areas. There is a lot of damage every night in Israel.
Trump said the rallies in big square of Tehran are also fake, and even the hits Israel/Israelis admit to are fake. Same with GCC hits that GCC acknowledges.
If using AI for fake news, there is a Netanyahu video out early today, where his wedding ring fades in and out. He should then give death penalty to IDF/Netanyahu (he could be hiding instead of dead) for fake news.
It is next level, Hitler's bunker, and losing, to be resorting to this level of desperation.
Pretty soon trump will have to release the epstein sex tapes to distract from the war!
He'd have to go have a reasonable, fair debate with somebody to surprise me at this point.
Whoa neat, he wants the death penalty for himself?? Let's convict then.
Trump is the kind of guy that 6th graders on the bus would have to take aside and say "not cool, man" except he's 80 years old.
things going well then I guess.
@return2ozma 30 days for trash sourcing, misleading headline, generally pushing crap around that no one needs.
It's not news that a demented old man says demented things, and it's shameful that a shitty tabloid makes hay out of it. But trash media needs your clicks!
Death to pedophiles!
doing mean unhinged EPSTEIN-WAR RANT.
Another sad day, as the crazy old man has yet again eluded the endless sleep.
Clickbait headline. Trump's rant demanded that those reporters be tried for treason, is that not a bad enough thing to do, to make a compelling, and truthful, headline?
But no, because one of the possible outcomes of being convicted of treason is the death penalty, the headline says "demands death penalty". Gee, I wonder why the headline doesn't say "demands 5 years in prison", another possible outcome of a treason conviction? Anyone want to take a guess?
Sensationalism is so pathetic.
Executed by antiaircraft gun for falling asleep in the presence of Dear Leader:
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/north-korea-executes-defence-chief-with-an-anti-aircraft-gun/ww2lfncy1
Sure, "It was not clear how the NIS received the information and it is not possible to independently verify such reports from within secretive North Korea."
And one day people are executed for having the same haircut as the president, the next day people are executed for not having the same haircut.
You're posting propaganda BS.
Most DPRK stories are written as biased DPRK fan fiction from outside enemies. He may just have been fired from his post.
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/north-korea-executes-defence-chief-with-an-anti-aircraft-gun-south-korea-agency-idUSKBN0NY01I/
"according to South Korea" LOL
That's definitely proof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyon_Yong-chol
Lol really leaning into the username here