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John Fetterman says Iran girls’ school strike is just a leftist craze

The Pennsylvania senator dismissed the demand for further investigation as “moot.”

Senator John Fetterman appeared not to understand why Democrats want to investigate the deadly strike that killed dozens of Iranian children.

During an interview with CNN’s Kaitlan Collins Wednesday night, Fetterman was asked to explain why he hadn’t signed onto a letter from Senate Democrats that questioned Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on the February 28 strike on Shajarah Tayyebeh, a girls’ primary school miles from Tehran. The strike killed 175 people, many of them young girls.

“Well, because we all agree that it’s a tragedy having the school hit, and we all agree now for an investigation,” Fetterman said. “What I don’t agree with the rest of my colleagues in the House is that it’s a war of choice, or it’s dumb, or all the things my colleagues have described, you know, this operation. I think it’s a good thing, and I support that.”

Fetterman was referring to a line in the letter describing Donald Trump’s military campaign as “a war of choice without Congressional authorization.” The letter did not describe the war as “dumb.”

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startrek.website

The headline is misquoting him, the full quote is:

“Well, because we all agree that it’s a tragedy having the school hit, and we all agree now for an investigation,” Fetterman said. “What I don’t agree with the rest of my colleagues in the House is that it’s a war of choice, or it’s dumb, or all the things my colleagues have described, you know, this operation. I think it’s a good thing, and I support that.”

Still glaringly stupid, but the headline makes it seem like he's in denial it happened. He didn't say the words "leftist" or "craze"

Edited for accuracy!

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Appreciate this.

Trump's political supporters say and do enough batshit, immoral things that we don't need to be lying just to make our points.

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DarkCloudreply
lemmy.world

He did say the word "leftist". He doesn't say crazed, but he does say:

"The Leftist media seem more angry and talking about the deaths of these dead school girls than they were about Iran killing tens of thousands of their own young people a couple of weeks ago"

The clip is here: https://x.com/Acyn/status/2031906677365358825

All I did was search the rest of the article for the term "leftist" notice it was used, then goto the link the New Republic provided. The question the interviewer is posing is why did all the Senate Democrats signed a letter condemning the US action in Iran except for John Fetterman.

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"We only murdered a little over a hundred school-children in this one attack when their regime murdered over 10,000. I think it’s a good thing, and I support that.”

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There is no game, THE GUY VOTED AGAINST HAVING AN INVESTIGATION.

It doesn't matter that he said that when he votes the opposite

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They don't want to give the full quote where he does use the term "leftist" (but not craze) - PROBABLY because they don't want to platform Fetterman's idea that the media should be doing criticism of other countries actions as much as the American governments actions.

...a point that doesn't really make sense, because the fourth estate in democractic countries are supposed to cover criticism of their own governments more than others.

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Motherfucker should have just been a Trumper. He's as stupid as everyone else in the administration and would fit right in.

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akiloureply
sh.itjust.works

Looking back, it's like what the fuck, it was this guy or Dr Oz? Like did Pennsylvania even actually have a choice?

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foodandartreply
lemmy.zip

He was a lot less insufferable before the stroke.

Brain injuries absolutely DO change people.

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Unfortunately he wasn't. He was a dick before the stroke he just had an incredible campaign/PR team that managed to successfully spin him as a progressive. I learned about him summarized in this video

23 minutes in i get Ahmaud Arbery vibes when he pulled a gun on a complete stranger.

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There's a fan theory about the show King of the Hill.

I think it was season 2 that Peggy Hill went sky diving. The parachute doesn't open, and she seeminly falls to her death. Except then you find out that she survived, and is now in a full body cast.

Fans noticed that before those events she wasn't very aggressive, or stuborn, or stupid. But after the fall, those are the traits that would define her character going forward.

The theory is, the brain damage from the fall changed her. And thats a good in show way of saying "the writers hadn't found her personality yet".

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lemmings.world

They blame the stroke he had just before the 2024 primary for his personality change, but there were clues that this was really him all along. Another excuse I've seen which I find slightly more believable (but only because the groundwork for it was already there) is that he became highly dependent upon social media - and thereby more radicalized - after his stroke prevented him from communicating normally.

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His "brain injury" was indeed caused by a stroke. It was the stroke of a pen, signing off on that big, fat check that someone gave him in exchange for his vote.

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That would involve actually doing something, and 90% of them are utterly useless.

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lemmy.ca

Does anyone on any side think this brain-damaged flip-flopper has anything important to say?

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The right seems to like a lot what he says, probably consider him one of the "good ones" until it's time to pair down on who to shoot next.

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John Fetterman lives under a bridge and eats any traveller who can't answer his riddles

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It is, indeed.

FFS, even saying a “dozen dozens“ would be underselling the actual death toll of that particular war crime.

The world honestly would be a (slightly) better place if that stroke was just a smidge more fatal…

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lemmy.world

When it comes to Fetterman, I wonder how many people get brain damage and suddenly become more progressive instead of regressive?

I know some people say this is who they suspect he always was, but....

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lemmy.ml

He had a helluva PR campaign to reform his image. I believed it at first until i finally found a video of someone giving a rundown of his background and his actions began making a lot more sense. Suffice to say i've found him to be an extreme disappointment but because i wasn't in his district and therefore voting for him I never dug into his history or background.

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That same video is what revealed what a shithead he is.

I should keep it saved to share.

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I once had an idea that it would be funny if Trump got hit on the head and turned woke: We're gonna add so many genders your head's gonna spin. You'll say, "Donald, there's too many genders, we can't keep track of them all!" Too bad, we just added 10 more genders

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WHICH ONE OF THE SIX SCHOOL BOMBING STRIKES IN IRAN, FETTERMAN? WHICH FUCKING ONE DOESN'T DESERVE INVESTIGATION?

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If the Democrats were a functioning opposition party, they would have forced Fetterman out when his staffers started reporting his erratic behavior. But Chuck Schumer needs Senators to, "go against him," and thwart any legitimate opposition the party can muster, so we let this brain damaged, mentally ill man occupy one of fhe highest positions of power in the nation.

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lemmy.today

This guy has been a major disappointment, but I want to remind everyone, that if Fetterman had t won his election, we'd be listening to Dr Oz run his fraud mouth.

Guys like Manchin and Sinema and Fetterman piss us off, but they contribute to the Democratic seat count, which is really really close right now. In past close party counts, sometimes the majority is only because of a DINO. They may not vote how we'd like, as much as we like, but their registration as Dem means that Dems control the chamber, the investigations, the legislation, etc.

So while he's a pain in the ass, he still has value to the party. Right now, the MAGA majority in the House is so thin, that if only one more Republican resigns effective immediately, the majority will swing to the Dems, BEFORE THE MIDTERMS EVEN HAPPEN.

If I were the Dems, I'd be offering huge rewards to any Republican willing to retire immediately. Want a cushy, high paying gig with a lobbying firm? We can make that happen. MAGA will scream, but who cares? That's always entertaining anyway.

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He just said killing school children is a leftist conspiracy wtf are you talking about

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foxwolfreply
pawb.social

I guess but isn't Dr. Oz just in a different position within the trump administration now?

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lemmy.world

This is all very true. I just wish we had enough margin for error w/o jagoffs like this.

I remember SNL summing up this problem in a way that was razor sharp when they had the person playing Sinema saying she (paraphrasing) "wanted to watch the world burn".

That just nailed it. Sinema was so obviously an incredibly selfish person and felt just so entitled. Same with Manchin. (Hey you guys! He wrote a book called "Dead Center"! LOL, I've seen him interviewed on it, and he really does seem to believe this notion of centrism, and that it's somewhere between the radically extremist party that the Republicans are as contrasted with the only moderately right wing Democratic Party. I'd love to know what the "centrist" position is between, say, extreme renditioning all brown people in the United States vs. you know, not doing that?)

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IKR, it would be sooo comfy to have a cushion. We've been balancing on the hard edge for years.

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Heikki2reply
lemmy.world

I dont know if he is a pedo. I do know he turned conservative after the stroke. Really make you think about the effects of a traumatic brain injury and conservatism

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lemmy.today

Studies have shown that traumatic brain injuries often lead to conservative thinking.

Honestly, it's a bit funny. People with fucked up brains turn conservative, which implies that conservatives have fucked up brains, for which we have all witnessed plenty of anecdotal evidence. POTUS is a perfect example. He's definitely got a fucked up brain, the most fucked up brain in the entire world, everybody is saying it. "Sir, they say, SIR! You're brain is fucked up, and I say, it isn't fucked up it's MAGA! I have a MAGA brain! Not fucked up, MAGA!"

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Must be a coincidence that he takes so much money from the child trafficking state of Israel

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I wish I could go back in time and vote against him in the primary, but he was cool back then flying the weed flag at the state capital. He also ran against Dr Oz, who is worse but I had high hopes for him. Now I just feel betrayed everytime he makes the news. I never felt so ashamed to have given anyone my vote as him.

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lemmy.world

What a fuckin 180 this douche canoe did. Must have been that cameo in the Christian bale movie.

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archonetreply
lemy.lol

I choose to blame the stroke.

Actual, factual brain damage is no joke, and there was a reason he won the election he was in. He was genuinely not insane/traitorous before his stroke.

The more cynical option is that he was always like this and merely wanted to screw over the leftists of Pennsylvania by running under a D ticket, but frankly I think brain damage from stroke leading to sudden onset fascist sympathies is both more likely (brain damage can have really fucking weird effects) and way funnier in a certain context

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bus_factorreply
lemmy.world

I've seen comments claiming to be from his local area saying he was always a bit like this. I don't think he ran a particularly leftist campaign, though, he just looked leftist compared to Dr. Oz.

I don't think Fetterman was a full bait and switch like that snake Kyrsten Sinema.

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archonetreply
lemy.lol

I am so goddamn tired of having to vote for the least awful choice instead of even a decent choice. Compared to the literal snake oil sales king of TV, almost anyone else looks good -- but we can see how that's worked out.

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The way the Republicans got to the position they are today was to focus on local races and the judiciary. Leftists have until recently thought that as long as they win the presidency everything is a-ok, but that is clearly not the case.

Pay attention to the local races, especially the primaries so the good candidates make it to the general election, and if possible run yourself, and there is a chance to turn it around. But it will take a decade or two of hard work to turn it around, assuming we get to keep having elections

As soon as actually progressive candidates have enough people in the legislature to have a Tea Party-like pull, you'll start seeing some improvement. The hard part is getting there.

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Pure accident that he changed to a Israel flag waving douche after getting his golden pager after a hospital visit.

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Fetterman, Randy Fine, Trump, Lindsey Graham, Rubio, Ted Cruz. It's amazing to think about how his gallery of absolute revolting ghouls have all received the majority of votes in an election in the US. The American public have preferred these freaks to whatever was the alternative.

I don't know how the US can be salvaged. At the minimum, a massive portion of the country needs to be sent to reeducation camps.

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Number of reasons to hate the guy are too high. He could eat a baby for all I care, I simply can't hate him more.

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lemmy.world

Had a friend get a bottle cracked across his head, then robbed. Suffered brain damage but survived.

He was a totally different person after. Left his wife and kids he loved for asian femboys to marry. Started substance abuse and total lost all his drive. Dude was highly respected in his field, graduated from Michigan and made damn good money.

All erased after the injury. So I can believe Fettermen changing his whole mindset after the damage. Can't wait till he is out of government

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He seemed better before though, like more lined up with the left. It's been awhile though and he did he voted in by Dems. I cant see him getting voted in with his current mindset. Well maybe as a Republican sure.

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His appearance corresponds with his moral and intellectual levels. He would be a great villain in some comedy. LMAO.

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

I think Maher is just a tech Zionist POS tbh.

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Paragonereply
lemmy.world

I now know enough about Maher to agree with you.

Too-recent learning, unfortunately..

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Don't feel bad. I thought he was great in my early thirties.

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Jfc, it's so unfortunate his stroke was caught in time to save his Phineas Gage ass.

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Someone should present him with a backpack, painted red and burnt, with a student ID. Really, that is something that should be gifted to everyone who supports this bullshit.

"Mr. President, I present you a peace trophy."

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This is an extremely poignant comment and it's too bad trying to upvoter it gives me a 500 error.

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feddit.it

All of this is a theatre... If you go to war these things happen, investigating how is, in fact, moot. You can't start a war and keep your hands clean

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Oh fuck off. It wasn't even one whole day before the US blew up ~150 elementary school children.

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Damagereply
feddit.it

And a lot of other innocent people too, what's your point?

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

That your statement that an investigation would be moot is absurd.

Also, the general downplaying of an awful war crime is very off-putting. There's a very big difference between civilian casualties as collateral damage (still terrible), and straight up targeting an elementary school full of children.

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Damagereply
feddit.it

You can pretend you can be civilized in a war, but truthfully war is barbarous and criminal in of itself. The crime started when the war started. Investigate all you want and pretend your conscience is clear, it won't change anything.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

You're not wrong about war being barbarous and criminal, but this is not black and white. There are levels to this.

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Damagereply
feddit.it

Yeah, and bombing from the sky goes through all of them quite fast

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It only goes through all of them when you target elementary schools and hospitals.

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NutWrenchreply
lemmy.ml

These things happen a lot more frequently when you let "AI" pick your targets for you, based on 10-year old data.

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NutWrenchreply
lemmy.ml

It's wasn't meant to be an "excuse." It shows that the Trump regime is incompetent. Life or death consequences must never be decided by "AI" and he went and did it anyway.

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It's 100% meant to be an excuse (not by you, by the administration). They can now do horrifying things, and blame AI. it's the perfect scapegoat.

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You're drinking the Kool-aid. They don't care about collateral damage. Nobody in power does, it's just a show.

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