Spyke
lemmy.world

Daylight Saving Time just needs to be completely eradicated, it makes no sense in the modern day. The problem is that you have this disagreement over "which" time should be the default, either standard time or daylight time (which Canada/the US spend more of the year in than not).

IMO it should just be standard time, emphasis on the word "standard". If you want more daylight hours in the evening for events and such, just start things an hour earlier.

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NOT_RICKreply
lemmy.world

It’s also dependent on where you live. Someone living on the easternmost part of a time zone is going to tend to want DST over standard as compared to someone living on the westernmost part. I live in the easternmost part of the Eastern US time zone and I’d pick DST if I had the choice.

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

Tbf, 5:00 sunset on standard time is not ideal for me either. But a lot more acceptable than having to suddenly adjust sleep because capitalists want to make more money.

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NOT_RICKreply
lemmy.world

The more I think about it, 8 am sunrise if we did permanent DST in late Dec/early January would be shit too. We should just split the difference, lol

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zikzak025reply
lemmy.world

You get used it it. Somehow the majority of the world where DST isn't observed has no problem with an earlier sunrise. Makes it easier to be a "morning" person, if anything.

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Rooster326reply
programming.dev

Makes it easier to be a "morning" person, if anything.

Morning people already get enough perks. Why do I want to help those judgemental pricks?

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Because if you want to help them, you give them DST, so the sun can rise an hour into their day. DST literally delays the progress of morning and makes more of it, it makes you get up an hour earlier in the morning.

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joereply
lemmy.world

"East Coast" doesn't provide enough information. If you look at a map of America and draw a straight line south from the western end of Massachusetts, it doesn't really touch another state at all, just the ocean. What really needs to happen is that the Northeast needs to be in a different time zone, and then we stick to standard time. But as it is now, it really sucks being in EST in the winter in the northeast, which is why so many of us prefer permanent DST, when given the choice without the option of being in a different time zone.

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It's so they can make more money more people die because of time changes, anyway.

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lemmy.world

Fun fact: in the mid '70s the US attempted to go to full year daylight savings time. It was so hated by everyone that we switched back to switching our clocks after very few years

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fedia.io

Go into detail about what the problems were and why everyone hated it.

People with school aged children were upset that their children were leaving for school in the dark.

People had more accidents in the morning (but accidents in the afternoon and evening hours decreased, especially pedestrian fatalities.

They didn't even try it out for a prolonged period of time and a lot of that had to do with the Watergate scandal and the Nixon presidency.

Also the health benefits of switching to Standard time and doing away with DST would work with permanent DST too. The major health problems that are caused by the current model have to do with altering the bodies internal clock, and you get the benefits of not having to change regardless of whether we choose permant Standard time or permanent DST.

For reference purposes, car accidents spike significantly after DST ends, not just when it starts.

I think the main issue with their attempt in the 70's is that they didn't try to change the hours of school and work to make things more workable. We didn't do that because it would have forced major industries to shift things and that seemed like too much work.

This would make things safer in general and fix sleep deprevation and other sleep related maladies in the vast majority of people who aren't morning people.

And having more natural light during the waking hours decreases the amount of electricity used, can decrease heating and cooling bills, etc.

People complain about the idea (either moving permanent to standard time or morning permanently to DST) literally based on vibes. Nobody seems to give it a chance with actual changes to make it work for any length of time.

I'm also going to point out that a lot of the problem full stop is that Americans just do not have significant amounts of free time.

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lemmy.world

I wasn't actually alive at the time, thanks for those details! I didn't know why they hated it, just that they must have to have switched back so fast.

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fedia.io

Yeah, I also wasn't alive (I know most of it from my parents and the internet, but I've also had this conversation on the other place before.

I get the reasons why people like one or the other. I wake up at 3 am for work 5 days a week and I work 10 hour days so my feelings on the matter will be skewed no matter what, but it always seems like a majority of people want to go to standard DST when it's a hypothetical and there's not a good general consensus for why they switch back if it is tried.

I believe Mexico (might be another South American country), did have it and they swapped back due to the "health benefits" but it seems like a lot of the studies around day lights savings time as a whole are relying on supposition and don't have a long term study for the actual effects.

Some studies show more car accidents, some show less, some show nuance. some studies show better or more economical use of utilities like water and rlectro, some show the opposite, or that there is no change.

Some studies show health benefits but those studies assume we don't change sleeping schedules and so on to accommodate/ take advantage of more light, and often the health detriments are based on swapping back and forth twice a year.

Most of this comment I made after reading more articles on it rather than going off memory from the last time I had this conversation, and so what I say here may not necessarily match up with what's in the original comment.

If I remember I'll try to go back up and change that comment to better reflect the new info.

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fedia.io

You should read more into this. The detrimental health effects aren't linked to going permantly to DST, but from switching back and forth between DST and standard time.

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It seems to be worse to spring forward, is the point. It doesn't align with the most prevalent circadian rhythm in humans, although there are exceptions. I guess those people are just sol regardless, which is regrettable.

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lemmy.world

Because a single news story about a single child being hit by a car on the walk to school was blown out of proportion and played on everyone's fears. Kids don't walk to school anymore.

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tmyakalreply
infosec.pub

Kids don't walk to school anymore

What am I passing when I drive home every afternoon? Geese?

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tmyakalreply
infosec.pub

OP didn't back up their assertion with data. They don't see kids; I do see kids. It's all anecdotal.

Quick searching shows a CDC survey from 2017 estimating that a little over 15% of American kids walk to school. More recent data would require more time to find than I have right now, but even if it's as low as 1 in 10 now, that's still not nothing.

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my wife and i only have one car because y'know poverty and i drive her to and from work once or twice a week because it's nice. we're going to start calling any pedestrian children Geese now because of you I love it.

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mercreply
sh.itjust.works

Permanent DST would be so stupid.

What is "noon" or "solar noon" under DST? Solar noon is supposed to be the time when the sun is at its peak. AM and PM come from ante meridiem and post meridiem, which are basically "before the sun's peak" and "after the sun's peak". But, under DST the peak is at approx 1pm. So, will saying "I'll meet you at noon" still mean 12pm? Probably, but then "solar noon" will be 1pm but "noon" will be 12am?

If the whole reason behind considering permanent DST that they think the 9-5 schedule of office life is impossible to change? This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

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lemmy.ca

This just reminds me of bad software projects where office politics and middle manager interference meant that rather than fixing the root cause, it was easier just to add tech debt.

That's why we have been continuing to change clocks twice a year, because apparently that's easier than changing the time children go to school.

If you're only argument is "the sun should be directly up at noon" then we are going to need a lot more time zones.

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lemmy.ca

No, let's do away with all time zones, everyone's on GMT. Noon stops meaning 12:00 and just means when the sun is directly up in your time zone.

If that means for you noon is 2AM, you start work at 11PM and are off at 7AM, usually going to bed at 1PM when it's well and dark out so be it. You don't have to change your clock when you travel, places just say "Local noon is 8PM".

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No, let's do away with all currency, everyone's on gold. $1 stops meaning 100 cents and just means whatever the hell it does in the area you’re in.

Ask the railroads how not having time zones turned out.

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I also prefer solar noon, but standard time is close enough, and I already said I'm fine with splitting the difference.

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Yeah, arguing definitions vs what's actually practical is a new one for me in the DST discussion. Just goes to show you that people would rather appear right than do what's useful.

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iegodreply
lemmy.zip

Nobody schedules things around solar noon you psycho.

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Old timey western shootouts. You shoot each other at high noon not waning noon.

DST is best T.

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In Seattle, during the summer solstice, sunrise is @ 4:30am with full daylight by 4:50.

Starting things an hour earlier is cutting into sleep time.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

Non-starter, according to DST sickos they need that extra hour of daylight to be at a higher number on the clock because of all the stuff they do. As if they weren't sitting on their asses on the couch 99% of the time either way.

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NOT_RICKreply
lemmy.world

I don’t need the sun to come up at 4:30 in the morning during the summer, and I am a pretty skilled runner. I’m just not a morning person.

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

People rarely have their bleary eyed shit together before 9am anyway, best save the sun time for off hours.

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Maevereply
kbin.earth

Hospital and factory workers first shift usually starts at 6:00-7:00.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

Then don't be. It doesn't change the fact that it's completely arbitrary when you get up.

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NOT_RICKreply
lemmy.world

I wish I got to set the schedule to everything in my life

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

You could just make the numbers be whatever you want if that's what you need to feel good about the time.

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NOT_RICKreply
lemmy.world

Again, I don’t get to set my own schedule, they’re determined by these numbers that while arbitrary, are rigid. Drop a kid off an hour late to school every day and have fun explaining that to a truancy officer, or tell your boss you’re leaving work an hour early to catch some sunlight and see how that goes.

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So drop them off at the same time, but just call it 8 instead of 7. Or is it more important to force everyone else to be on the same arbitrary number as you?

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They could just say school and business hour is at 8 instead of 9 from an arbitrary date and have the same effect.

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

Nah, it’s about outside time. Not being in my garden, on my porch, or just outside in general because it’s dark at 5pm is depressing.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

Then get up an hour earlier. I personally can't relate to feeling depressed because it's dark out, like a bird having a blanket put over its cage, but I do enjoy the longer, cooler evenings with less UV.

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I'd love an alarm clock that only wakes you once the sun has crossed the meridian, like how navies used to only change the calendar day once they'd turned the glass and struck the bell at high noon.

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I don't know, last time I had a barbecue at 5am no one showed up.

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reddthat.com

I don't care which way they go. Hell, split the difference and move us to a 30 minute offset if you can't make up your minds. Just stop changing the bloody clocks twice a year. Please!

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This is the way.

Step one: agree that fucking with the clocks is really stupid and codify it into law

Step two: start arguing about which time zone is the “right one”

If you try to do both at the same time, step two prevents both

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No! Split the difference the other way! Make us jump two hours! Show us all how detrimental daylight savings is! Burn motherfucking greenwich to the ground! Or at least let me get some sleep!

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discuss.online

Oh my state passed a law abolishing it but the federal government stopped it. You want to know why? You want to know the stupid reason why the federal government won't abolish daylight savings? Because polling indicates that half of the people want it gone forever and everybody else wants it there forever.

They literally can't decide whether to always have the clock one way or the other, so we get to split the difference. I don't fucking care. Just pick one and stick with it. Everybody has electric lights anyway, it's the 21st century, we need to move on from this 1700s bullshit.

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Counterpoint: the people who want it there forever should just be told that's what we're doing, they'll be back to licking windows before they realize the difference.

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lemmy.world

Exactly, most of us don't care but there are jobs where it matters, so go with what's best for them. Construction maybe? Either way, we don't need majority opinion here.

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Great, with scientific evidence backing this we are fucked for ever getting this changed. What we really need is a rising passively racist influencer to get behind the idea to get any support in 2026.

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Better yet hopefully we can get a child rapist or two to support ending dst then Trump will mandate it via executive order

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

"The Hyperborean Medical Association recommends an end to DST as Vril and testosterone are both depressed if noon isn't at 12:00 on the equinox"

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I've also heard from a very reliable source that when children have their sleep disrupted by an hour they are more likely to turn gay.

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I honestly don't care if we choose permanent standard time or DST. Either one would be better than having to switch twice a year. I'll even propose a compromise: we can try one for a year, try the other for the next year, and see which one works better.

Not doing either because we can't agree on which one should be permanent seems like the worst option.

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In the us your state can choose to do standard time anytimeiit wants. Daylight savings time is allowed in summer only so it is a federal issues and thus much harder to get passed.

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I live so far up north that in the winter the sun rises around noon and sets two hours later.

I literally could not care less which time zone I’m in, the position of the sun has zero effect on my life.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

We really should just move to permanent standard time, and judging by some of the opinions to the contrary that I'm seeing in this thread, everyone who hates that should either be given a dispensation to move their work shift and bed time back an hour or be placed on a psychiatric hold.

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lemmy.ca

everyone who hates that should either be given a dispensation to move their work shift and bed time back an hour or be placed on a psychiatric hold.

Isn't the reverse just as true for people who hate being on DST permanently?

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

No, because their opinion, in differing from mine, is objectively incorrect.

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Well they don't call it Donald Savings Trump for nothing. What better way to honor the god emperor than sacrificing time itself in his name?

(I gagged a bit just typing this, I'm sorry)

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lemmy.world

Who makes money off of Daylight Savings Time?

I don't know, but I know someone is making a fortune off of it somehow and I want to know who. It's the only explanation

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lemmy.zip

The real question is, how can the rich make money off of changing this? As soon as someone figures that out, I'm sure it will change.

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Surpreply
lemmy.world

Whoever has a business full of hourly employees that are working during 1-3am and lose an hour of pay.

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ughh, I lost an hour of pay working as a security guard to this kind of thinking a while back.

"Oh, we'll just make up for it in 6 months."

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God yes. I don't even care which side of DST we land on. As long as we stop changing the damn clock.

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sh.itjust.works

Daylight Saving Time (not Savings). Most people get this wrong and I'm not sure why.

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Just changing it to noun form, you have a savings account not saving account. Coupons bring you savings on purchases.

We pretty much just use the word saving for computer files, healthcare when saving a life, and fictional heroes. I guess most people don't think of it as an action to save daylight.

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

I’m pretty sure RFK sleeps under sun lamps, that’s why he looks the way he does.

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Zinkreply
programming.dev

The good old days, when the fire hose would occasionally turn off and we could breathe and participate in folksy traditions like complaining about the clocks.

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lemmy.world

sleep experts say that standard time (which shifts daylight hours earlier in the morning) aligns best with human circadian biology.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

What? It's the other way around you know. Standard time means you rise with the sun, daylight savings means you rise an hour before it.

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lemmy.world

As someone who lived in a country with DST and now living in a country without it, it's honestly such a pleasure never having to worry about losing or gaining an hour at an arbitrary time of the year.

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mercreply
sh.itjust.works

As someone who hangs out online with people who don't do DST, it's really annoying to have to re-learn each-other's schedules twice a year. Although that's nowhere near as bad as when I lived in a country with DST and worked with people in the southern hemisphere who also did DST. It would mean that at some times of the year, 9am for us was 5pm for them, so a short meeting was fine. But, other times 9am was 7pm. And then there were the weeks where 9am was 6pm because one side had gone DST and the other side hadn't yet ended it.

Even worse, the logs system at the company timestamped everything in silicon valley wall-clock time, so there were 3 different time zones at play, which all changed at different times.

Really, I think eventually we'll all be on some kind of global time system. So, if I say the meeting is at stardate 1230.2 nobody has to convert to their own local clock.

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Serinusreply
lemmy.world

UTC is a thing, commonly used by people who play Eve Online

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mercreply
sh.itjust.works

Yeah, but it's not widely used by anyone other than computer geeks. Not surprised that there's a big crossover between computer geeks and spreadsheet pilots.

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mercreply
sh.itjust.works

The military uses UTC? Not for regular timekeeping I'm guessing.

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discuss.online

I love daylight savings. I count the minutes until it returns. I think it should be permanent, for health reasons.

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It absolutely doesn't matter. What matters is not changing.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

The research is in, permanent standard time is healthier.

Edit for the doubters

sleep experts say that standard time (which shifts daylight hours earlier in the morning) aligns best with human circadian biology.

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lemmy.zip

They are morons. Because the day didn't change, only the marker did. So stupid.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

Who are you saying are morons here? The doubters or the sleep experts?

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lemmy.zip

The sleep "experts". Complete bullshit. They could say changing the time causes an issue, but this shift daylight earlier is complete bullshit.

  1. Because daylight is constantly changing. Millions of people will get nearly an hour more daylight this month alone, because thats the way the earth works. It is rapid increase in the spring, and rapid decrease in the fall.
  2. Time is artificial. Call it 3 in morning, call it 10 in the morning. It doesn't matter. A person can get up when ever they want. Their rhythm can dictate it, not the clock.

Morons.

Pick one or the other, but don't change the time. Either choice is equally as good, there is NO difference.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

Think of this way, it's healthier to rise with the sun. That's how we've evolved for billions of years.

It's unhealthy to rise an hour before the sun. It's unnatural.

Call it 3 in morning, call it 10 in the morning.

??? It's not what we call it. It's when the sun actually rises. Like it or not we've arranged our society to start at 8 am (or 9 am in some places), so no we can't get up whenever we want.

And you do understand our circadian rythyms are connected to the sun right? The sun dictates our rhythms, not the other way around.

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lemmy.zip

Think of this way, it’s healthier to rise with the sun.

Lots of places don't have sun at all, or have little sun in the winter. People cannot get up with the sun. Again, the earth is constantly changing what that means, and also varies alot based on where you live.

Like it or not we’ve arranged our society to start at 8 am

No. No we haven't. People do things at all hours. Also, see the point above.

And you do understand our circadian rythyms are connected to the sun right? The sun dictates our rhythms, not the other way around.

Ok, so get up when that happens if you want. It has NOTHING to do with the arbitrary time we assign to a clock. The day does NOT care what number we assign to it.

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Lots of places don’t have sun at all,

So your argument is that because extremes exist, fuck everyone on the planet? Like what kind of logic is that?

eople do things at all hours.

So your argument is that because extremes variations exist, fuck everyone on the planet? Like what kind of logic is that?

Ok, so get up when that happens if you want.

What? Like I said, we've arranged our society around 8 am. The vast vast vast vast vast majority of people have no choice in the matter.

Honestly I'm not sure you understand that we have (had?) aligned our time schedule to the sun. Daylight savings shifts that time schedule to be OUT of schedule to our sun. Yes the numbers themselves are arbitrary, but we have (had?) actually sceduled it to align with the sun. And it is daylight savings that wants to shift that so that we effectively have to get up an hour earlier because work/school starts at 8 am and doesn't change.

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someguy3reply
lemmy.world

What kind of response is that? Night shift workers are a miniscule minority and fucked either way anyway.

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Same response. Like what are you thinking? Fuck over 99% of people for 1%? Correction the 1% is still fucked either way. So it's fuck over everyone for no particular reason.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

People who know about that than you do say you're wrong, and what's more important, I say your opinion isn't valid, so that's pretty much putting it to bed there.

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Tikiporchreply
lemmy.world

That's because you're a hateful person with no joy in your life.

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lemmy.world

How can anyone not love a long walk as the sun rises? Dawn is excellent and it's only rival for best time is dusk.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

This reinforces permanent standard time. I'd rather have kids going to school with the sunrise than hanging around waiting for the bus in the darkness an hour before sunrise.

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Good idea, and then let's start cutting cake into twice as many slices so we can eat twice as much. In reality we should stay on Standard time and school should also start an hour later anyway, because that has also been proven to increase schoolkids' quality of life.

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lemmy.world

I want us to go in the direction Canada is going with that. It should be the same time in Washington and Oregon that it is in BC

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Nah they're only half metricated. They use metric kilometers, but imperial hours, this creates the uniquely Canadian variant of kph

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Us law doesn't allow for that. Washington and oreagon could go year round standard time anytime they feel like it.

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Today has been the absolute worst. Daylight savings shift coinciding with my job becoming absolute trash and my idiotic self doing a Sunday funday yesterday.

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lemmy.world

It’s pretty obvious the American government doesn’t care about its citizens health. Sick citizens = more shareholder profits for their scam corporations

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maplesagareply
lemmy.world

It screws corporations as well, anyone that has a database or deals with time in any way. I'd call it a huge hazard technilogically to willy nilly change the time for no reason.

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

We have been changing the time for 70+ years. Nothing about it is Willy nilly. There is a reason. The reason may invalid at this point.

This same bullshit could be said about jetlag simply moving to a different time zone has worse effects than a single hour shift, yet many people do it 10s if not hundreds of times a year.

It's so stupid to argue about this whole thing from a health perspective and using that as if its some kind of disease.

So stupid

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zalgotextreply
sh.itjust.works

If there were two days a year that 300 million people took a flight that gave them all jetlag simultaneously, you'd probably tell them to stop though, right?

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

I have no idea what you mean.

Who is telling who to stop what?

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I'm trying to relate the daylight savings time change back to your example of jetlag.

I'm suggesting that, in a scenario where everyone in the US is compelled to take a plane ride that gives them all one hour's worth of jetlag (instead of changing the clocks by one hour), you'd probably take issue with that. It's an attempt to add some extra perspective and get you to think about your claim that it's stupid to argue from a health perspective, and how shallow that line is thinking is.

It doesn't matter if it's stupid or not, it's reasonable to want the practice to stop.

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0x0
lemmy.zip

Yeah i'm not trusting American anything at this moment.

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lemmy.world

Seems like the only experience you have with children is physically and sexually abusing them.

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I don't even sexually abuse your mom, even though she blows up my phone begging me to. You can stop following me around now, take your crashout and handle it with stoic silence befitting a le epic atheist sci[ent]ist

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There's a lot of things that I don't like about Arizona but the abolishment of moving to and from DST has been such a great thing to have.

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It's like this comes up every 6 months. Good thing we have a robust economy and world peace so we can fuck around with subjects like this.

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sh.itjust.works

Having the sun come up at 5 am and go down at 5 pm in the summer is my nightmare. Why on earth would we rather change 9 months instead of 3??? Fuck permanent standard time. I would rather keep changing.

Edit: I’ve said it before and the replies I am getting are only reinforcing my belief; morning people are an oppressive class.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, but it's disingenuous to call the equinox summer. By late August the days are getting noticeably shorter.

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lemmy.zip

The sun goes up and down at the same time, nothing changes except the stupid marker they should leave alone.

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sh.itjust.works

But for some reason people freak out if you suggest we just start things later in December. See the other commenter who said I could just get up earlier…

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

You could just get up earlier. You are not a slave to your clock.

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lemmy.world

Ah yes and have companies change their working hours twice per year instead. Lol.

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For those who want to, why not? Companies have become way too comfortable, I'm fine with forcing them to allow employees to do as they please.

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Some traditions are simply stupid and should be discarded.

This is one example.

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Well that was a non article.

Committing to standard time has health benefits and allows us to end the biannual tug of war between our biological and alarm clocks,” said AMA Trustee Alexander Ding, M.D., M.A, MBA.

So are they saying committing to standard time, or simply committing to a single time?

If they are saying Standard is better that Daylight Savings, then they are complete morons. And it isnt because I like one over the other. The fact is IT DOESNT FUCKING MATTER. Just pick one.

Daylight is constantly changing, depending on what latitude you are in. In the northern hemisphere millions of people will gain over an hour of daylight this month alone. Your rhythms are effected by people fucking with the clock, and that is it.

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Standard is better than advanced, which is better than switching.

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lemmy.ca

Didnt they try it back in the 70s and everyone freaked out so much they reverted within a year?

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My friends dad died of a heart attack like 2 days we sprang forward for daylight savings time. Apparently there is a statistical correlation with increased heart attacks during this time likely due to the lost hour of sleep. I'm sure he would have eventually died of a heart attack because of his lifestyle, but I'm quite convinced it was a part of what caused it to happen on that day.

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lemmy.ca

ITT: People absolutely convinced "their" side of the hour is the Only Correct Choice, and can't understand why people who prefer the "other" side of the hour can't just adjust their schedule to compensate.

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Zinkreply
programming.dev

They have no vision!

We have the technology now to make DST a sliding scale so that the sun sets at 9PM every day.

Listen not to the nay-sayers! "Waaah, it is not good to eat lunch in the dark before sunrise!" Not with that attitude, mister!

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The Romans had that technology too, the day was split into 12 hours of sunlight and 12 hours of night, no matter the time of year

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Mwa
thelemmy.club

people hate DST?(tbh i live in a country where we dont use DST)

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Every time the time switches there's a spike in car accidents, heart attacks, etc. Also, time should just be constant imo, arbitrarily shifting it an hour twice a year seems stupid to me.

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Jerkfacereply
lemmy.world

Everybody loses an hour of sleep in the spring which results in a statistical spike in hospital admittance for heart problems and car accidents.

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It is such a non-issue, messing with the clocks. I ruin my sleep plenty on my own, and I'm sure everyone here sits up playing videogames or fucking around on the internet from time to time.

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lps2reply

Me, I do - but I also don't think we should switch back and forth; just keep DST. Who the fuck cares if it's dark at 5:30am, we are meant to be asleep at that time

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People in the Nordic countries have it way worse. There's no excuse.

It's not like it's the same time for waking up, going to bed, or shops opening for everyone across the world.

If you still need a heads-up about when things are happening when you travel, we may as well just make time UTC globally.
Sune goes down at 4pm? Just wake up and go to work early.

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lemmy.world

Fuck that. Keep daylight savings time and end standard time. I like my daylight when I can actually use it; after work.

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alsimoneaureply
lemmy.ca

Making everyone wake up an hour earlier is abusive

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We're in daylight savings time now, let's just stay there. That way no one's schedule has to change again.

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pimento64reply
sopuli.xyz

"I know better than the AMA because I want to spend an hour of sunlight driving home with this sun in my eyes and then sitting on my couch getting left on read"

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The AMA is concerned with disruptions to circadian rhythms due to time changes. If we stick to daylight savings time there won't be any more time changes.

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piefed.social

I'm so tired of listening to this. Twice a year for my entire life. Let it go people

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lemmy.today

I agree with you. I actually like the change. Not a fan of Bush 2 lengthening DST since it gets out of sync with other countries.

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sh.itjust.works

Glad you like it bitch.

  • with love the people that are about to die at the next change in your honor.
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