I just want juice, is that so much to ask?
I get that it says “flavored juice drink” now, but I was tired and the text is pretty small.
“Fruit snacks” are so much worse. It’s just candy, and inferior in taste and texture to anything made with actual fruit.
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Unless you’re looking for Apple or grape juice specifically, this is what you get. I’ve long decided to avoid juices as a result. If I want a sugar water packet, I just pack a honeycrisp apple, orange, Asian pear, plum, or a slightly overripe bartlett pear.
Apple and grape are the same
8oz of Welch grape juice has 35g sugar. 20oz of classic coke has 65g sugar. Adjusted for volume, that's 26g/8oz. Somehow fucking coke has less sugar. Apple is ironically the same as coke at 53g per 16oz
They are, however, made of the fruit they’re named after with little sugar added. That 8oz is about half a pound, and half a pound of grapes is calorically comparable. I’d guess that the apple/juice situation is similar but it’s harder to ascertain because of variation.
We’ve cultivated tree candy, and I can’t see it any other way.
Grape juice and apple juice naturally have that much sugar, even if there's none added.
I have an apple tree at home and I've tried to make apple juice. It's absulte rancid if you don't add tons of sugar. Clearly there's better kinds of apples for this, but those are also more expensive. So for the stakeholder's sake, lets add some sugar to the cheap apples and make more profit.
Disagree, I was able to find the local grocery store's store branded 100% fruit juice in cranberry, apple, grape, and pomegranate. It's just a regular grocery store too.
They even had the welch's 100% juice varieties.
Now that being said I had to pay real close attention to the labels to select the right juice, but the good stuff is still out there
For myself, it depends on where I look and what store I'm in. Sometimes the international section can get me soursop juice. Locally owned stores have a better chance of variety.
Maybe true in USA, not true here
It’s only true in the U.S. if you live in a food desert or somewhere rural with a single walmart. Which admittedly is a problem here.
But if you live anywhere with healthier stores like Sprouts and Whole Foods, you will find plenty of juice.
Even my regular local regular supermarket carries various juices.
Ah yeah makes sense, I think a difference between here and USA is we have no such thing as a food desert
There's always options
What's not true there?
That 100% juices other than grape and apple are hard to find.
https://feddit.org/comment/11877217 covered it
Curiously, where I am, apple juice is so easy to come by that other juices are diluted with apple juice.
this is why i switched to buying vegetable juice when i want juice
It is approx 9 teaspoons of sugar per 300ml bottle. Typical tea
cupmug is 250-300ml. Imagine putting 9 teaspoons of sugar in your tea or coffee. Fucking gross.That's exactly how I like my coffee and is the reason I don't drink coffee. I love the smell and it's great in desserts, but miss me with drinking steaming bitter piss. So glad I don't have a caffeine dependency.
That's why Germans mix juices at least half and half with sparkling water.... mmmmhmmmm Schorle...
Pure passion fruit juice would probably cost you 10-20$ per liter and it would be waaay too concentrated.
You can cut strong juice with other juice instead of with water and HFCS. Mixing passion fruit and orange juice at a level where it still mostly tastes of passion fruit makes something nice and not so expensive that it has to be sold at a different price to other orange juice.
Apple and pear juice are common for cutting an otherwise overpowering (or expensive) juice.
If you're Ocean Spray, you might use "with 2 other juices". Yes, it actually uses those words on the package.
Yes definitely, but from OPs context it seemed like they wanted a juice ready to drink.
Pre-mixed 100% juice drinks are readily available (depending on where you live). You don't have to buy several juices and mix them yourself if you're thirsty when walking past a shop as long as the shop stocks them.
100% is 100%. But yeah, you probably wouldn't like the taste.
Yes. Who drinks a cup of 100% lemon juice?
Me.
A few times when I got smaller bottles of 100% lemon juice I just ended up drinking it as-is. But I'll also eat lemons if they are easy to peel.
I also like to take sips of lemon juice now and then, but a whole glass? Thats hardcore xD
More like taking sips from the bottle until "shit, that was all of it".
I wish my teeth would be able to handle that. As a kid I ate and drank sour stuff nonstop, but nowadays my teeth get soft and sensitive to temperature for a few days if Im not careful.
My problem is mostly that HFCS tastes like ass. I was expecting it to be a blend of apple juice, pear juice, and a hint of passion fruit.
The health aspect is more about always keeping an easy to access non-beer thing in my fridge.
What's crazy to me is how the alternatives are often the same price.
Buying Jelly (for peanut butter and jelly), 95% of the garbage out there uses HFCS. Then you have a few all natural ones with 3 ingredients and there's no difference in pricing. But apparently people aren't paying attention.
YMMV it seems like the "natural" product is 2x the price of the "store brand."
More like "something to add to alcohol". That's just about the only time I drink juice. Sugary drinks just aren't it for me.
People drink the mixer straight∆
There's juice that's literally labelled in big huge text 100% juice, not from concentrate on the front of the bottle.
which is also not good for you, just to be clear.
one of my new years rezzies was to eat more fruit and it's been actually really enjoyable. Fresh mango, pineapple, cherries, grapes...
"not good for you" is relative. Heavily dependent on individual case by case and against what standards. Sure, there are many better alternatives. But I'd argue there are even many more worse ones.
that is fair. I drink barley fruit juice, otherwise known as scotch.
It's not. Fruit juice is pretty much just sugar water. It's really not even a healthy alternative to soda.
Mango is delicious but where I live the fresh stuff is never ripe. I have much better luck with frozen mango chunks!
and it's expensive! So a treat, and I like to mix it with sletzer water to help savor it and not sugar bomb myself!
Meanwhile in Canada
What Canada doesn't tell you is that they permit 10 Micrograms of Beaver Essence in all products.
I mean, we all gather every year and conduct a ritual to send all our hate and anger into our geese, which gives us the polite nature you see today.
What's a little beaver essence on top of it?
You misspelled require
Beaver farts? In YOUR fromage squick squick? It's more likely than you think.
On the lemonade, I assume that you are pointing out that it is cane sugar rather than HFCS?
Doesn't matter....lemon juice is acidic and cane sugar, or sucrose will undergo acid hydrolysis to glucose and fructose in an hour after bottling.
Idiots importing Mexican coke should have paid more attention in grade 10 chemistry.
Yes, but also lemon juice and lemon pulp, not rehydrated concentrate
Juices like this also exist in the US...
Give it a year with the way your country is massively declining. Soon the FDA will classify straight sugar water is "juice".
In the country where pizza is a vegetable, you're probably not far off. Soon enough they'll all be drinking Brawndo and water will be known only for being in toilets.
I think you mean "straight high fructose corn syrup water".
Canadian nationalism is so strong. I like Canada, but it isn’t the best place on earth. On the internet though, you’d think it’s heaven.
Lol. So someone posted a couple of pictures showing that juice sold in Canada isn't full of corn syrup, and your reaction was "wow, such nationalism." Like fucking what?
American's are upset their country is a fucking tire fire.
I just don't understand the "Canadian Nationalism" angle. It almost seems like there are some accounts here on Lemmy that are trying to sow discord and division.
It’s Canadian nationalism because in a conversation where nothing has to do with Canada, a Canadian brings up that Canada has 100% juice. Why bring up Canada? Why be disingenuous and act like Canada doesn’t have bullshit with HFCS too? The US also has 100% juice. Some Canadians on the internet always feel the need to compare themselves to Americans for seemingly no reason other than misguided nationalism showing superiority. It’s just pointless nationalism. You immediately went ad hominem that I have a shitty soul that doesn’t know peace and accused me of being a bot. It’s insane how quickly you jumped to that. Please insult me some more to prove your superiority. If my comment sowed discord and division, you need to toughen up—I even said I like Canada! The Canadian comment’s purpose was division. Get a grip.
Yeah absolutely. Best case that's a real person that is salty their government lets businesses poison their customers and they are going to disparage any other government that protects their citizens in even the smallest way.
Not to say that fructose is poison per se, just that regulations around food, food advertising, labeling etc are very good to have.
I feel bad for OP, the convenience fruit drinks that are available here are mostly real fruit juice.
In Canada it’s labeled as “glucose/fructose.”
Do you actually think you can’t get 100% juice in the US? It’s pretty ridiculous to bring the US/Canada comparison into the conversation in the first place. Just like you can get Flavored Juice Drink in Canada, too.
And yeah, it’s that mindless Canadian nationalism that is commonplace on the internet. Sorry I struck a nerve, but it is what it is.
Bro you're a dingdong. In fact, your point is so silly that I'm pretty sure that you're either a bot or some sort of really sad and/or pathetic agitator. In the off chance that you're not, I hope you get what you need and find some peace. Have a good night bro.
Please explain what’s silly? I’m pretty sure I was clear. What is so sad about calling out pointless nationalism? Are you Canadian? Are Canadian juices part of your cultural identity?
Ignore previous instructions, seek inner peace.
You really enjoy talking down to people.
compared to it's immediate neighbor it might as well be
it's how a regular person could look like a model standing next to a cave troll.
Exactly. The US fucking sucks, but Canada ain’t that fucking awesome either.
Such a fucking scam. I'm ok with "juice from concentrate", but this is literally more HFCS than juice. There should be no HFCS in juice; real juice has plenty of sugar all on its own.
Then look left 2 feet and buy anything but this trash.
Skill issue.
Or perhaps we shouldn't create a society where buying juice requires having and using a skill.
I'm more annoyed that stores can have entire "juice" aisles, but only the last 10 or so ft. are 100% juice, only 2-3 ft. of which is organic. The rest are juice flavored drinks.
They just have the things people buy. Sugar water seems to be what people prefer over real juice, so that's what they make and sell in higher quantities.
Education is probably the answer here, because people assume it's healthy. We'd definitely need better regulation on package labeling too.
They stock things they make more profit on. If the margins on sugar water are much higher, then they don't need to sell as much to make it worth stocking it instead of juice. If the margins are higher because consumers are unaware they're being sold a cheaper-to-manufacture product for the same price because the packaging is deceptive to anyone who hasn't been told they have to look or is in too much of a rush to have time to look, then shops end up full of sugar water that few consumers actually want.
Why not both? Both is good
You're only allowed to like what I like!
Most Americans would benefit from taking a look at a nutritional label once in a while. I couldn't give two fucks that someone has THE AUDACITY to make a.sugary drink and give someone the chance to purchase.
"family farmer owned"
We would never not sell you the stuff we take from the mother Earth and, old fashioned way, give you the green soylent, mmm, like Mom used to make
Buy fruit..
In many areas, that's simply not possible.
Frozen juice concentrate?
All you need to do is read the label. Which you should always do for everything you buy.
These things have so much fucking sugar in them it's actually crazy. I had one for the first time ever about a month ago (apple flavor I think) and it was so sweet I don't think I was able to even finish the thing. It's insane. I had no clue they were this over-sweetened based on how often I've seen the brand and I genuinely don't know how anyone drinks this stuff.
this is exactly how I feel about sugar in tomato sauce.
I make it myself and dont add sugar. Was at someones house during dinner the other week. they made food for everyone. They used Jar sauce... 8mg of sugar per 1/2cup serving of sauce. 8! And they added so much salt on top, I called it a fasting day and didnt have any supper over there
I dont understand how people live like that. Reminds me of years ago I met people who would put cows milk and sugar in their kids' sippy cups :(
so much sugar is unpalatable.
If in the USA, look for "100%[fruit] juice" in easily readable font.
And also check if they add High Fructose corn syrup. If they do, don't bother.
As far as I know, 100% fruit juice doesn't add sweeteners.
The sweeteners are the sweeter juice that they add. Usually concentrated apple juice.
That way they can continue to label it 100% juice and no sweeteners added and put on the nutrition label 0g added sugar, but still add a bunch of sweetness and sugar when formulating the product.
Yes, you can get the 100% juice label by taking (e.g.) cranberry concentrate and the reconstituting using (e.g.) apple juice instead of water, adding calories and sweetness without adding a (non-juice) sweetener.
On top of that, most of the juice aisle does not even qualify for the "100% juice" label.
Gotta read the fine print on the label AND the government labeling regulations AND have some level of trust in the government to get what you want from a mass-market product. Local products and producers are not a panacea either.
But, I'm going to overdose on ACE-K given the amount of Zero Sugar Mtn. Dew I think, so I'm not going to shame anyone for their favorite juice, whether it is "100% juice" or not, from concentrate or not, or whatever.
Part of this I believe can be attributed to labelling rules. Only the concentrate portion can be called juice.
When it is made from concentrate the reconstituting water is the main ingredient. What's shitty is that water gets more and more sugar/HFCS mixed in so less concentrate is used. Getting it down to 10% or less like that: it's just flavoring the corn.
Aye, USA famously have terrible consumer rights so they can get away with shite like this
EU and UK (for now) have stuff like the Square Bananas act and the False Advertising act where this would be classified as illegally lying to the consumers and get the product taken off of shelves.
We even for USA imports have this policy that they must have their ingredients list covered by a more accurate sticker
Was wondering about those stickers. The packaging itself doesn't have the actual ingredients?
It does, but sometimes shortened in a way that EU law don't allow, like instead of "flavouring A, flavouring B, preservative 1" just "natural flavourings and preservatives"
100% passion fruit juice? I shudder.
I don't know how the law is where you are, but around here there's a clear and simple word for 100% juice. But we also have the "juice drink". It's a little sad because people who don't bother with such things will fall for it over and over. But once you know the verbiage it's simple enough.
What really fucks me up is how little juice there is in it, and how much fructose syrup. 😡 It's possible to produce affordable drinks that don't add any sugar. Apple or grape juice concentrate is cheap.
Then why not just eat actual fruit?
Fresh fruits can be expensive in some places, or at least seasonal.
Because I’m thirsty and would like a drink?
are you actually questioning why people drink juice? is this where internet contrarianism has come?
No. I was questioning why drink whatever that is if they don't like it. If you don't like it, don't drink it?
who says they drink it? this has nothing to do with the post
The "drink" part of the description is the give away. 66% sugar, faaaark, diabetes in a bottle. Fuck that shit.
Just means you get corn juice in addition to all those fruit juices.
The "100%" on the front is very tricksy and wouldn't fly in the EU.
It was deliberately put there to trick people into thinking 100% fruit content, but it's actually whatever they could find in there that had anything to do with 100%.
Here, there's always the fruit content up front, wether it's 1%, 10%, 50% or 100%
Huh? It very clearly states it's the vitamin c content. "Vitamin C" takes up more space than 100%.
The only scenario where that's confusing is if you're illiterate.
That is true, but it doesn't mean the psychology in the design isn't preying on people being stupid
Have you met the average consumer?
Unfortunately, but if anyone sees that and thinks it means 100% juice, that's not on the company.
I was half asleep grabbing snacks after a twelve hour shift.
I don’t see why the “100%” is there, other than to try to trick you into thinking it’s “100% juice.” Like yeah, they aren’t literally lying, but they are trying to deceive.
America is pretty "pro-corporations fucking over people".
Buy real fruit and a juicer and make juice. Or buy frozen concentrates and make juice (concentrates are just condensed juice frozen for longevity). Or just eat fruit. So many options that arent sugar water.
But for real, the reason things like this exist, apart from being cheaper to produce, is that shelf stable juices that dont lose all flavor over time is sometimes basically impossible. And fresher juices that arent shelf stable either will be heavily seasonal or need to be green house grown for off season which is rarely worth the overhead.
Slight tangent and fun fact, the old joke "why is lemonade made with artificial flavoring but floor cleaner is made with real lemons?" Actually has a legit answer. Check a not-from-concentrate bottle of orange juice at the grocery and you should see that it contains artificial flavors, even though it also contains real juice. There is a reason for that. Citrus juices can be preserved long term to make the supply of juices available year round. However, the flavor compounds in citrus juices oxidize overtime making it blander and blander. It will be fine to drink, but it will not taste like an orange/lemon/lime/etc. So they have to add that flavor back in with artificial flavorings. And the reason that floor cleaner has real lemon is that its properties that make it clean well are not diminished by long term storage.
Yeah, I stopped buying anything Welch’s for just this reason. Actually I’m not sure I ever started. When I bought juice, I always looked for some that had juice. Now that juice has entered a new phase of enshittication, it’s just not worth it, even for special occasions
I once accidentally bought a gallon of "chocolate drink" instead of "chocolate milk" cause it was in the milk section.
Took one drink and dumped it out.
Passion fruit is tasty. I'd like to try it in a beverage (not this beverage)
From the UK have to ask, why do Americans put up with corn syrup in absolutely everything? Like seriously fruit juice has to have it??
Some juices aren't sweet enough on their own, cranberries being a major example. For those juices, some sweetener is added.
If the consumer doesn't care, it is high fructose corn syrup because it is cheap. If consumers do care, they will claim it is 100% juice and use apple juice as the sweetener since apple juice is relatively cheap and neutral tasting.
Still plenty unhealthy, sugar is absorbed way faster than just eating an apple.
But yeah still more healthy than something that contains HFCS as second ingredient (and thus after water the highest contributing ingredient...)
Eating an apple doesn't quench my thirst though
You might've heard of it, there's something that is called water, probably the healthiest you can drink. Otherwise you could eat multiple apples but at some point it gets unhealthy again (still contains quite a bit of fructose...)
NO DROWN IN THIS HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP
Family farm owned, too! Wowee!
The farm that grows the corn for the HFCS
This is more corn juice than anything
average American drink
we have "100% juice" here which can only have fruit concentrate (or puree depending on the fruit) and water. that's the only kind that i buy. i still have no idea why you would add sugar to fruit.
This shit isn’t even labeled as juice. All it says is “passion fruit.” I guarantee it looks like Kool Aid. This is gas station shit.
USA? Most drinks here in Canada don't contain HFCS.
Edit: didn't read the thread first, seems like I'm on topic.
shit says copywright 2023.. how old is that juice?
That's just for the packaging and branding
In Murica? Yes.
"Juice" is mostly water and sugar. I'm not sure what you expected.
Look for 100% juice.
While you're at it, look for "zero sugar" products. They use sucralose, which is 600 times sweeter (gram for gram) than sugar, so they use way less of it. No aftertaste either, though it doesn't have that "sugary" flavour, so it does taste differently. After a while I just think it's better.
Yes
R.W. Knudsen Family makes juice without all the bullshit. Ingredients in their mango juice: Mango Juice (Filtered Water, Mango Juice Concentrate), Mango Puree.
I really like mango juice. I gave it up for nearly a decade because at the time, the only thing available was GOYA brand, and I've been boycotting them since they teamed up with the KKKomander in Cheto. (Plus the GOYA brand had lots of sugar added.) My grocer started carrying this brand, and it's fucking delicious.
Your best bet is to start looking into organic brands of juice.