By the standards of the Nuremberg trials, every president since Eisenhower has been a war criminal. Chomsky wrote a piece on this in 1990, giving brief but convincing arguments for every president individually up till then. The pattern hasn't stopped since then. Bush needs no argument, I hope. Obama has his explicit protection of the torturers of abu ghraib, the expansion of the drone program which killed thousands (including hundreds of civilians), killed an entire wedding. Biden bombed Yemen, Syria, and others, and of course the genocide. Trump, I hope, needs no argument. Terrorist state.
Like, not agreeing with the guy, but if you assume that he didn't respond to you in an hour because he can't, as opposed to just having a life, that's a far more negative reflection on you than him.
Most people aren't on here every waking hour. And if you are, I genuinely recommend you self reflect and maybe step away from the keyboard a bit.
Personally, I find it distasteful to default to "man" when referring to people that you're unsure of the pronouns of, especially those that are seemingly female presenting. This is an example in choosing your battles, because nitpicking someone detracts from their point. Pettifogging and such.
Furthermore, I think the number of sentences in your reply is entertaining, for someone criticizing another for spending too much time on this app. Also yes I am indeed pettifogging. =^}
Listen my guy, I definitely don't read all these dude's usernames when I post.
But while I'm sure being misgendered is upsetting to any hombres I've mistakenly done it to, I feel like there's a difference between misgendering some bro in real life and over a faceless medium like a message board. Or, as I like to call it, a man-ssage board.
...
And yeah, I'm overly wordy. It's just how I post. Stream of consciousness bby!
Meme templates often evolve past their original context. A good example is Spider-Man with his glasses. People use it with Peter putting his glasses on to see clearly, but in the movie he had to take them off because his vision was better without them. But without the context of the scene that's (mostly) lost. (He looks sort of squinty with the glasses on, but still confused with them off.)
Generations do have voting habits though, someone from gen Z is not voting for the same reason as the boomers. When people from the younger generation make choices that will hurt their future it should be realized and understood so hopefully later elections (heh for the current system) they can understand why some people aren't in their best interest and things adjusted.
Mean for voters that want the current situation then they're assholes cause they voted for someone with the worst outcome of the planet and society in mind.
What you mean to say is simply that environment influences behavior. "Generations" are just arbitrary buckets that reinforce stereotypes and create division. A young gen x person likely has a lot more in common with an old millennial than an old gen x person.
Yeah it ticks me off when people get pedantic about generations. It's like y'all know they're just a marketing thing, right? So marketing firms can act like they know whatever generation they're talking about. It's not some official thing.
Please don't say what I meant to say. If I am incorrect i am is all. I think generations have a valid similarity because of the world at the time.
Mean didn't say the exact generations as said by books but people who grow up in a similar political and economic environment probably are impacted by that situation and that sort of happens, Which is more what I meant.
I was three weeks ago old when I learned that college football exists in the USA primarily as a conditioning/selection tool for potential army recruits.
I don’t think that’s the case at all. College football is closer to communities in areas that don’t have bigger professional sports teams and is an extremely achievable goal for a lot of folks who want to play ball and go to school.
I would be sold if you told me that Hollywood was conditioned/incentivized to make movies idolizing the Army
You know, Reddit used to be this way, like 20 years ago. I miss those days, and that’s why I’m here. Well, I’m here for a bunch of other reasons, too, but, yeah. I also love these wholesome exchanges ❤️
Instead of Gen Z, let's just say every republican this term. He cheated, but a whole shit ton of people still voted for him. I don't think he needed to cheat.
I have yet to see someone use this meme properly once. This tells me not enough people watched the show and understand the context of their own fucking meme.
Yeah that's what I mean though, the context of the image matters, wouldn't want to look like an asshole by implicitly contradicting your message by associating the context you know?
Do claim sour grapes because the JD Vance meme lacks authenticity to its subject too? Do you think we should redefine all media to suit your tastes? We should be brain rot tv addicts before we’re allowed to interact with JPEGS? Tell us how you really feel. this is my favorite comment for the day.
No, it's just that you're putting the people in the wrong roles relative to the source and that matters. I just needed to point out that anyone recognizing the meme will think you're villainizing the objectively correct Millennials here, and contradicting yourself. Unless you're intending to argue that the Gen Zers are correct with this meme? Honestly I'm confused what your goals were at all with this post.
You can try to gaslight me to make yourself look less goofy if you like but the question remains and I promise you I'm not the only one thinking this, just put a little more thought into it before you shit out memeslop.
I don’t know what this meme is from. I understood the context of the meme. It was funny. Get bent you don’t even understand how memes work. Spoiler it’s not to accommodate weird fans of shitty media.
You're being a bit rude, no? Especially about something you both don't know and don't seem to care to know? Which is the weirdest time to speak your mind and be a dick about it. I suppose this is the anti-intellectual age after all. In any case, and not that you care, but maybe someone else does. He is playing a mind controlling sociopath in Jessica Jones. So, the context here would be him having complete control over her, and anything he says, becomes reality in her mind. Makes it a confusingly bad choice for this particular use.
I mean OP began the conversation being bit rude? To me that’s an open door to be an asshole and I am deep down an asshole, and it’s who I really wanna be all the time. If you don’t want to me to be rude…. Don’t play holier than thou with memes.
If you live long enough you'll see there are behavioral patterns shaped by time. Not everyone uses generationalism to divide. It is a legitimate classification system.
This reminds me of a post I made before the election:
Trump's foreign policy equivocation, and his "America First" slogan allows him to appeal to both the Idealist Doves (libertarians) and the Realist Hawks (nationalists). He can't consistently take any line on any specific thing. If by Afghanistan, you mean a disastrous nation-building exercise, wasteful government spending, and endangering our troops for the sake of helping foreigners, then of course Trump opposes it. But if by Afghanistan, you mean exerting American strength, intimidating Russia and China, and weakening terrorists to keep America safe, then of course Trump supports it.
In reality, to the extent that Trump has coherent beliefs at all, he is a Realist Hawk, a nationalist, and his record reflects that. But part of the reason he was able to get anywhere was because he was able to triangulate and equivocate well enough to dupe anti-war libertarians.
Unfortunately, in American politics, the conflict is generally between Idealist Hawks and everyone else. This is part of what allows the nationalists and libertarians to put aside their differences (the other part being that libertarians are easily duped). Realist Doves are not represented anywhere, the Idealist Interventionists consider us Russian bots along with everyone else who disagrees with them on foreign policy (regardless of how or why), the Idealist Doves are extremely unreliable, and the Realist Hawks may see the world in a similar way but have diametrically opposed priorities.
tl;dr: Trump's halfhearted antiwar posturing is an obvious ruse that only an idiot would fall for, but painting everyone skeptical of US foreign policy with the same brush helps him to sell it and to paint over ideological rifts that could otherwise be potentially exploited.
Exactly, one too many idiots who believed in MAGA. The shitheads should be lining up at the US Army recruiting offices signing up for 11 Bravo, Infantry.
Every Republican presidential since Reagan has dragged us into a war of some sort.
Well, yeah
By the standards of the Nuremberg trials, every president since Eisenhower has been a war criminal. Chomsky wrote a piece on this in 1990, giving brief but convincing arguments for every president individually up till then. The pattern hasn't stopped since then. Bush needs no argument, I hope. Obama has his explicit protection of the torturers of abu ghraib, the expansion of the drone program which killed thousands (including hundreds of civilians), killed an entire wedding. Biden bombed Yemen, Syria, and others, and of course the genocide. Trump, I hope, needs no argument. Terrorist state.
https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/
Except every democrat who has done the same
I mean sure they're hawkish too, but they haven't started a war since LBJ.
heck they get flak for not getting us out of ones started by republicans in a good enough manner.
What's truer is every Republican has sent the economy into a recession.
Really? Prove it.
e: you’ve had an hour. It shouldn’t take this long to prove something you so confidently asserted.
Holy cow my man. Do you live on here?
Like, not agreeing with the guy, but if you assume that he didn't respond to you in an hour because he can't, as opposed to just having a life, that's a far more negative reflection on you than him.
Most people aren't on here every waking hour. And if you are, I genuinely recommend you self reflect and maybe step away from the keyboard a bit.
Personally, I find it distasteful to default to "man" when referring to people that you're unsure of the pronouns of, especially those that are seemingly female presenting. This is an example in choosing your battles, because nitpicking someone detracts from their point. Pettifogging and such.
Furthermore, I think the number of sentences in your reply is entertaining, for someone criticizing another for spending too much time on this app. Also yes I am indeed pettifogging. =^}
Listen my guy, I definitely don't read all these dude's usernames when I post.
But while I'm sure being misgendered is upsetting to any hombres I've mistakenly done it to, I feel like there's a difference between misgendering some bro in real life and over a faceless medium like a message board. Or, as I like to call it, a man-ssage board.
... And yeah, I'm overly wordy. It's just how I post. Stream of consciousness bby!
No, but when I say something controversial, I tend to monitor replies for a short while in case anyone responds.
I don’t tend to troll, but I’d expect a troll to monitor even longer, since otherwise what’s the point?
(Hence, I’m still in here.)
You also need to factor in update delays. Sometimes its hours before you are notified that someone replied.
Nah, you just sound like a prick.
I was thinking about Obama's Libya, Afghanistan, ISIS while Clinton was complicit in striking Yugoslavia.
Biden is a lesser match here, but he could be blamed for enabling Israel in 2023
Ps: have you assumed I was getting a healthy piece of sleep?
FYI this user is Russian:
https://lemmy.world/comment/22418954
I am. How's that related?
Your comment implied American. Dragged “us”.
They never said "us", the person they were replying to did.
Sorry, you're right. The us is still inferred, but I am also not American and feel affected and shocked by American politics.
You inferred it, but they didn't insinuate it.
I didn't imply it and I sincerely fail to see how my remark on your beloved democrats is relevant to my ethnicity or nationality
I'm not American either, but it's pretty relevant when you're in a proxy war with the country you are criticizing.
Am I in a proxy war? Wtf I'm not aware of it
Nah I remember tons of republicans pressure to commit troops to Somalia and Kosovo, which he resisted, thank god
What does this even mean? The proportion of gen z trump voters was way lower than millennial trump voters in 2024
Regardless these arbitrary generational divisions are worse than meaningless
The meme also made millenials the manipulative villain too.
I have a feeling the meme maker never watched the show.
Meme templates often evolve past their original context. A good example is Spider-Man with his glasses. People use it with Peter putting his glasses on to see clearly, but in the movie he had to take them off because his vision was better without them. But without the context of the scene that's (mostly) lost. (He looks sort of squinty with the glasses on, but still confused with them off.)
That one actually does bother me though.
It's weird whataboutism propaganda being out out by ABWD/ blue maga
Generations do have voting habits though, someone from gen Z is not voting for the same reason as the boomers. When people from the younger generation make choices that will hurt their future it should be realized and understood so hopefully later elections (heh for the current system) they can understand why some people aren't in their best interest and things adjusted.
Mean for voters that want the current situation then they're assholes cause they voted for someone with the worst outcome of the planet and society in mind.
What you mean to say is simply that environment influences behavior. "Generations" are just arbitrary buckets that reinforce stereotypes and create division. A young gen x person likely has a lot more in common with an old millennial than an old gen x person.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/07/07/generation-labels-mean-nothing-retire-them/
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/10/18/its-time-to-stop-talking-about-generations
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/22/how-pew-research-center-will-report-on-generations-moving-forward/
Yeah it ticks me off when people get pedantic about generations. It's like y'all know they're just a marketing thing, right? So marketing firms can act like they know whatever generation they're talking about. It's not some official thing.
Please don't say what I meant to say. If I am incorrect i am is all. I think generations have a valid similarity because of the world at the time.
Mean didn't say the exact generations as said by books but people who grow up in a similar political and economic environment probably are impacted by that situation and that sort of happens, Which is more what I meant.
As someone who served in both… yea. We all saw this coming for Iran. Gen Z buying into Trump and maga hurt a lot to watch.
I was three weeks ago old when I learned that college football exists in the USA primarily as a conditioning/selection tool for potential army recruits.
I don’t think that’s the case at all. College football is closer to communities in areas that don’t have bigger professional sports teams and is an extremely achievable goal for a lot of folks who want to play ball and go to school.
I would be sold if you told me that Hollywood was conditioned/incentivized to make movies idolizing the Army
Perhaps I misspoke saying "college" football. (I'm canadian so we don't have college football the same way here)
I don't really see how any of those facts you said are mutually exclusive with what I said.
If you think about football as a career, it's a goldmine of people who didn't make the cut and can enlist.
If you think about football's skill development... it very much aligns with military teamwork etc.
Football selects for people who will follow orders, put themselves in harms way, and focus on the objective.
https://the-cauldron.com/the-nfl-is-one-giant-military-recruitment-tool-ae28276185e4
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/17ccbz4/when_and_why_did_american_football_games_become/
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/11/the-nfl-and-the-military-a-love-affair-as-strange-and-cynical-as-ever
GenX, who lived through the last war with Iran:
The GenXers and Boomers who lived through the war before that
You were supposed to zoom in more, here:
Sorry, I’m on my phone. I updated the pic. Good to go?
I was just poking at you. ;)
And, if I’d been the one sitting in front of my Photoshop, it could’ve been the other way around. Have a good night!
I love these wholesome exchanges.
You know, Reddit used to be this way, like 20 years ago. I miss those days, and that’s why I’m here. Well, I’m here for a bunch of other reasons, too, but, yeah. I also love these wholesome exchanges ❤️
Instead of Gen Z, let's just say every republican this term. He cheated, but a whole shit ton of people still voted for him. I don't think he needed to cheat.
I have yet to see someone use this meme properly once. This tells me not enough people watched the show and understand the context of their own fucking meme.
I think many people assume it's Dr. Who, and if The Doctor is looking at you like that, ya done fucked up.
But very different context in Jessica Jones.
Yeah that's what I mean though, the context of the image matters, wouldn't want to look like an asshole by implicitly contradicting your message by associating the context you know?
Right? Jessica Jones gots no time for this Lucifer shit.
A meme combines image and text to make a joke. Usually made to reach the widest audience possible else becoming a meta meme.
Do claim sour grapes because the JD Vance meme lacks authenticity to its subject too? Do you think we should redefine all media to suit your tastes? We should be brain rot tv addicts before we’re allowed to interact with JPEGS? Tell us how you really feel. this is my favorite comment for the day.
Sour grapes? are you 80 years old?
No, it's just that you're putting the people in the wrong roles relative to the source and that matters. I just needed to point out that anyone recognizing the meme will think you're villainizing the objectively correct Millennials here, and contradicting yourself. Unless you're intending to argue that the Gen Zers are correct with this meme? Honestly I'm confused what your goals were at all with this post.
You can try to gaslight me to make yourself look less goofy if you like but the question remains and I promise you I'm not the only one thinking this, just put a little more thought into it before you shit out memeslop.
O look the annoying little meme critique comic book fanboy. Save it for comic con nerd.
This is the first known use of this meme:
It's the way the two people appear, not whatever the original context of the scene was, that's relevant.
I believe you meant misuse. Also that's a dumb meme saying nothing.
How can you misuse a meme that never existed before?
Yeah, that's how it is with most memes. They're not meant to be taken seriously. Actually, there's a meme for that!
I suppose that's all true, well played.
I don’t know what this meme is from. I understood the context of the meme. It was funny. Get bent you don’t even understand how memes work. Spoiler it’s not to accommodate weird fans of shitty media.
You're being a bit rude, no? Especially about something you both don't know and don't seem to care to know? Which is the weirdest time to speak your mind and be a dick about it. I suppose this is the anti-intellectual age after all. In any case, and not that you care, but maybe someone else does. He is playing a mind controlling sociopath in Jessica Jones. So, the context here would be him having complete control over her, and anything he says, becomes reality in her mind. Makes it a confusingly bad choice for this particular use.
I mean OP began the conversation being bit rude? To me that’s an open door to be an asshole and I am deep down an asshole, and it’s who I really wanna be all the time. If you don’t want to me to be rude…. Don’t play holier than thou with memes.
Lol U mad?
No I just thought accusing someone of not understanding their own meme was the dumbest thing I was going to read for a while. It was.
Low effort generationalism again.
As opposed to high effort generationalism?
Generalization are always wrong. Always. Every single time.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
Never seen it.
Generationalism always happens. There are better things to spend your brain on.
My point exactly.
If you live long enough you'll see there are behavioral patterns shaped by time. Not everyone uses generationalism to divide. It is a legitimate classification system.
LOL
All generationalism is good for is distraction from the class war.
This reminds me of a post I made before the election:
Trump's foreign policy equivocation, and his "America First" slogan allows him to appeal to both the Idealist Doves (libertarians) and the Realist Hawks (nationalists). He can't consistently take any line on any specific thing. If by Afghanistan, you mean a disastrous nation-building exercise, wasteful government spending, and endangering our troops for the sake of helping foreigners, then of course Trump opposes it. But if by Afghanistan, you mean exerting American strength, intimidating Russia and China, and weakening terrorists to keep America safe, then of course Trump supports it.
In reality, to the extent that Trump has coherent beliefs at all, he is a Realist Hawk, a nationalist, and his record reflects that. But part of the reason he was able to get anywhere was because he was able to triangulate and equivocate well enough to dupe anti-war libertarians.
Unfortunately, in American politics, the conflict is generally between Idealist Hawks and everyone else. This is part of what allows the nationalists and libertarians to put aside their differences (the other part being that libertarians are easily duped). Realist Doves are not represented anywhere, the Idealist Interventionists consider us Russian bots along with everyone else who disagrees with them on foreign policy (regardless of how or why), the Idealist Doves are extremely unreliable, and the Realist Hawks may see the world in a similar way but have diametrically opposed priorities.
tl;dr: Trump's halfhearted antiwar posturing is an obvious ruse that only an idiot would fall for, but painting everyone skeptical of US foreign policy with the same brush helps him to sell it and to paint over ideological rifts that could otherwise be potentially exploited.
Gen-X and Boomers
Exactly, one too many idiots who believed in MAGA. The shitheads should be lining up at the US Army recruiting offices signing up for 11 Bravo, Infantry.
General Wesley Clark's 7 countries in 5 years reveal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KkNAQIuGZY
Just to remind us of the PNAC plan, that we're still in, despite that thinktank officially ending 20 years ago.
This is a really bad meme unless your goal is to support the zoomer position.
🤣 They are literally downvoting me, for pointing this out.